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NEW DAY SATURDAY

Northeast Braces For Another Winter Storm; Travelers Frustrated By Cancellation; U.S. And Norway Lead Olympic Medal Count; Japan Takes Men's Figure Skating Gold; "Loud Music" Murder Jury Back; NFL Releases New Report On Miami Dolphins; Kansas State House Passes Bill Allowing Refusal of Service to Same-Sex Couples; Beating the Winter Blues; PayPal Chief's Credit Card Hacked

Aired February 15, 2014 - 08:00   ET

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Next hour of your NEW DAY continues now.

Punxsutawney tried to warn us. Winter sticks around. Thousands of flights canceled, a lot of people without power, but another storm is on the way.

PAUL: You know what? We are just one hour away from the jury again in court deliberating for the Michael Dunn loud music murder trial. Based on the question to the judge, they may already have a verdict here.

BLACKWELL: And new technology that is supposed to make credit cards more secure appears to have a problem. Now the president of Paypal is offering a solution.

PAUL: Welcome to Saturday. This Saturday after Valentine's Day which, for a lot of people, is much more exciting because it means 50 percent off chocolate.

BLACKWELL: Yes, yes, the Reese's Cups shaped like hearts.

PAUL: I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. It is 8:00 here on the east coast. This is NEW DAY SATURDAY.

PAUL: You know, if you like shoveling snow, Mother Nature has got you covered this time around.

BLACKWELL: I mean, it is unlimited for you. Today, the north east is getting more snow although its barely recovered from the last storm. Let's go to Boston. We have got some live pictures here. You can see that -- you can't see much. I can tell you that there will be some heavy snow later today.

PAUL: We're hoping that we're not going to see scenes like this one. Let's show you here. My goodness, that looks brutal to try to walk in, right. If there is a bright side, it is the storm's speed. Jennifer Gray, so basically what you are saying this is thing is going to fly in and fly out? JENNIFER GRAY, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes, it is going to be a fast mover. It's going to get in. It's going to get out and so we are not going to see as much snow as we saw with the last storm just a couple of days ago. D.C. is already getting it. I think we have some live pictures of D.C. starting to get some rain.

It is going to be rain for you for the most part. So that is good news there. Most of the snow is going to be around the New York area and up towards Boston and even Northern Maine. That is where we will see the most. We have these winter weather advisories in place and winter weather warnings actually a blizzard warning for the Cape.

And so with that said, we are going to see this continue to pull in. Look at that, D.C. right on the edge, rain and a little bit of snow for the north side of you. Starting to get a couple of flakes up in New York and then it is going to push into Boston.

So during the heat of the day, at 5:00 this afternoon, we'll see New York, Boston in it with some rain offshore and then the heavy snowfall amounts are going to be in Northern Maine. So what we will be looking possibly 2 inches to 4 inches around New York City. In the Boston area, we could see upwards of to 10 inches of snow, and then up to a foot possibly in Northern Maine, guys. It's never going to end it seems.

PAUL: All right, Jennifer, thank you for keeping us surprised.

BLACKWELL: Thanks, Jennifer. So the weather is not doing travelers any favors, of course, you know, 500, almost 500 flights canceled already today.

PAUL: Yes, we feel for you if you are sitting here and watching us in the airport right now. We do believe that 500 number could go up though because we know airlines are already struggling to get people to their destinations. And CNN national correspondent, Susan Candiotti is in New York LaGuardia Airport with us right now. So all right, how are they dealing with cancelations so far this morning, Susan? Good morning to you, by the way.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you too, Christi. Well, of course, they have 8,000 flights that were canceled over the past few days. So slowly but surely the airlines are chipping away and trying to alleviate that backlog. It is a busy morning here at LaGuardia Airport much like it has been across the country. Take a look.

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CANDIOTTI (voice-over): As airlines work to clear cancellation and delay boards and get passengers back on the move this morning, Madison Wulf and her mother who have been stranded at sleeping at Charlotte's airport, hope to get to their final destination, the Junior Olympic competition in Portland, Oregon.

MADISON WULF, STRANDED TRAVELER: It is very frustrating. I mean, I have been preparing for a long time. It is very frustrating not to be able to get there for this.

CANDIOTTI: Their story was repeated at airports all along the east coast this week. More than 6,500 flights were canceled Thursday and more than 1,700 flights on Friday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was necessary because this storm was so broad and impacted so many key cities. So that is really why those numbers get so big.

CANDIOTTI: Add to that, thousands of delays.

DON GILLMAN, AIRLINES FOR AMERICA, MANAGING DIRECTOR: Our original flight was early this morning and it was delayed, and still is apparently. But they won't let us get a ticket because our connecting flight in Philadelphia is probably going to be rescheduled so we are line to actually talk to an agent.

CANDIOTTI: From Charlotte and Newark with the most cancellations, to Philadelphia, New York and Washington, D.C., airports are trying to get back to normal for the long holiday weekend and airlines are trying to catch up. Some passengers are frustrated. SHABEE TINGLE, STRANDED TRAVELER: We are trying to get our flight rescheduled to Atlanta, which has been canceled like three or four times. And basically we are going through hell to trying to get another flight.

CANDIOTTI: While others are taking the situation in stride.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, it is what it is. You know, we prepared for the worst. We have a flight. We'll be ready to go.

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CANDIOTTI: And Christi, if you are one of the lucky ones whose flight hasn't been canceled, for example the O'Briens are headed all the way to?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are going to Miami.

CANDIOTTI: Sunny Miami. Now you didn't have to change anything. Are you happy nevertheless that you got on an early flight so you could get out?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are really happy.

CANDIOTTI: What do you think about what is happening?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is terrible. I got delayed a couple weeks back. I had to go to San Francisco. I had to stay overnight. We have a lot of friends and people who work for us who have been delayed for days. It is a terrible situation.

CANDIOTTI: Well, I'm glad you are going to make your flight now. It looks like everything is safe and secure now. Just check out, follow me here in a second. Let's show you that we also have a lot of action going on inside, too, where people are following up to check in. If we can make it down here to the board, you will see that as you look at the flight schedule, here at LaGuardia, they look to be in very good shape, all those flights on time. We only saw one or two flights to Miami, as a matter of fact, where they are canceled.

So the idea as always is to make sure you get here early and check with the airline before you head out. Back to you, Christi.

PAUL: All righty, Susan Candiotti, it's so good to see you this morning. Thank you.

I love how they take the camera in places and people realize there is a camera and they are backing up. I don't want to get in this shot. So day eight of the Olympic Games and the U.S. speed skaters is official. They are switching suits apparently making the change, of course, after getting the clearance to do so. Because the concerns are the vents in the back of those Mach-39 suits were creating a drag and that's what slowing them down.

BLACKWELL: Yes, but listen to this, the maker of the suits, Under Armour says the athletes tested the outfits before the winter games and the skaters, now they will wear what they wore during the recent World Cup competitions. Of course, that's just one of many headlines from the Olympics. We have Joe Carter here to talk with us about this. Joe, let's start with the medal count.

JOE CARTER, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: My Olympic spirit is struggling so far, guys, how about you?

BLACKWELL: You are feeling Olympically downtrodden?

PAUL: Is it because there are so many empty seats? That's what fascinated me was how many empty seats.

CARTER: I don't know. I guess it is because I have that American arrogance where I expect us to win all these gold medals and we are just not doing it.

PAUL: You admit it.

CARTER: It is early on. We have another week of competition. Maybe there are perceived struggles out there like I'm feeling. But apparently when you look at the medal count, America is doing well when you consider the overall medal count. Team USA and Norway are tied for 13 total medals. Netherlands and Russia are right behind with 12 each and Germany has won the most gold medals with seven.

Now I have to warn you this next story is a spoiler alert. For those that do not want to know what happened this morning, please turn away. American skiers, well, they missed the podium once again this morning in the Women's Super-G event. The Team USA's strongest hope for medal was Julia Mancuso. She finished a disappointing eighth.

Two Australian skiers took the gold and the bronze, and a German skier took the silver. It is been a slow start so far for Team USA skiers. Only one medal so far at Sochi compared to Vancouver when they won eight medals.

And also this morning, Uzoro Honyu won Japan's first gold medal in men's figure skating. The 19-year-old fell twice in his skate routine. He had such a huge lead going into this, that he set a world record in the short program. That was basically what did it for him. As a result, he is now the youngest skater in 66 years to take gold in men's figure skating.

Now the ice dance competition, basically pairs without jumping, that will go on today and tomorrow. One of the most premiere events, the most talked about, most watched events is the ladies individual figure skating that starts on Wednesday. Team USA and Team Russia, knotted at zero right now in hockey at the end of the first period.

PAUL: We are wondering. All right, Joe Carter, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: Still to come on NEW DAY, we are expecting the jury in the loud music murder trial to resume deliberation in a little less than an hour at 9:00 Eastern, but have they already sent the message that they are deadlocked?

PAUL: And are the snow and chill temps getting you down? Well, listen to this CNN's chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta has some tips to help you melt those winter blues.

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BLACKWELL: Welcome back. We're just about 45 minutes away from the return of the jury in the loud music murder trial. Michael Dunn faces life in prison if he is convicted of murdering 17-year-old Jordan Davis in 2012. This happened at a Jacksonville gas station.

Now today is the fourth day of deliberations and the jurors will pick up in the wake of the question they asked. A question that some are describing as a bombshell, maybe, the judge read it aloud last night. Listen.

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JUDGE RUSSELL HEALEY, DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA: The second question is this, is it possible to not reach a verdict on one count and reach a verdict on other counts. The answer to that is yes.

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BLACKWELL: Joining me now is defense attorney and former prosecutor, Tanya Miller. So what is this question, first, welcome.

TANYA MILLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: What is this question tell us about where they are potentially?

MILLER: Potentially. OK, the key word is potentially. Potentially there is a split back there. It could be 11-1 or 6-6. We don't know that yet. But it seems they want to know, listen, if we have reached a verdict on some of these counts, but we are struggling with another, what can we do? Do we have to keep going? What are our options? So that could signal that we might have a hung jury at least with one of the counts.

BLACKWELL: Now some might consider maybe they made a decision about the attempted murder charges, but they are hung on the murder charge, first-degree murder charge. On a Friday, if a jury has gotten the answer that, yes, you can be hung on one and still come up with a verdict on the others, why not just deliver it on a Friday and go home for the weekend?

MILLER: That is exactly the thing that I was thinking. We were just talking about this off the air. Listen, when juries have been deliberating for a substantial period of time in a case like this for the number of days they tried this, this is a substantial period of time. They normally want to reach that verdict by Friday and be done. It was Valentine's Day. They are sequestered.

The fact they went back at it again and are coming back on Saturday tells me that listen, either they think there is a hope that they can either bring this one person around or they are so close to reaching a verdict, they want to give it another shot or, you know, they just don't want to let go yet. It could be one person holding on. It could be a big split. We just don't know. They haven't given up.

BLACKWELL: So they made other requests. They want that dummy that was used during the testimony and more of the surveillance tape that was actually shown in the court room. What could they possibly be doing with that?

MILLER: Well, you know, the surveillance video is interesting because it did not depict the parking lot where the incident happened. It depicted the sound of the bullets. So I suspect, and I could be wrong, I suspect they are going through what Michael Dunn said happened and going through what the witnesses said happen and trying to listen to those gun shots and figure out how quickly the gunshots went?

What they sound like? It sounded like. Was it a pop, pop, long pause and then more shots or were they all sequential and happened quickly. That could be important to them in weighing whether or not Michael Dunn's version or claim to self defense was credible.

Looking at the dummy with the dowels with the trajectory of the bullets, again, is trying to figure out if Dunn's version is credible. How did these shots entered the victim's body? Was he turning away? Was he coming toward? It is a way for them to look at objective evidence and measure it against the testimony of witnesses to try to figure out what actually happened.

BLACKWELL: You know, there are comparisons being made between this trial and of course, the Zimmerman trial. A male who was shooting a teenager who Dunn says that Jordan had a gun. The police never found one. First, is that comparison between these two men, is that comparison fair and accurate and also what are we learning or what we glean from their deliberations in the Dunn trial going longer than the Zimmerman deliberations?

MILLER: You know what? Listen, to answer your first question, yes, I think it is fair. When you look at the objective facts of the case, you have a 17-year-old African-American male in each case. Both of these kids were doing something they had every right to do.

One was walking home with Skittles and ice tea, the other stopping at a gas station to get some gum. We have white males, who are adults, armed, who perceived these kids as threats and have shot and killed those kids and claimed that they did it in self defense so for those reason and the fact that they are both in Florida.

The fact that they are being tried by the same district attorney's office, those are things that obviously make these two cases appear to be similar. I think that the Zimmerman case, if you are talking about self defense, would have been a case that you would have deliberated longer on because you didn't have a witness who could tell you, like you do in the Dunn case, what happened from start to finish.

The Dunn case is not even close. So the fact they are deliberating this long, look, it might not be that they are thinking self defense is appropriate. It could be that they are just trying to figure out second degree versus first degree versus manslaughter.

BLACKWELL: All right, Tanya Miller, I always learned so much when we have this conversation. Thank you so much.

MILLER: Thanks, Victor, any time.

BLACKWELL: Christi.

PAUL: Thank you both. So Miami Dolphins not good news for them yet again this morning, months after the team made headlines for allegations of harassment inside the locker room, now a new report claims Richie Incognito is not the only one to blame.

Plus, a plan to unionize the Volkswagen plant in Tennessee hits a speed bump. We will have the details next.

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BLACKWELL: Racial slurs, homophobic name calling, inappropriate touching, those are just the few of the findings from a disturbing new report commissioned by the NFL in the atmosphere inside the Miami Dolphins locker room.

PAUL: Now, look, you know the Dolphins made headlines last October after Jonathan Martin abruptly left the team over claims that he was relentlessly taunted by teammate, Richie Incognito. Well, we want to bring in CNN's Nick Valencia because he has been looking into some of these latest allegations and what have you learned from this new report.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The headline from this is that there was a culture of harassment and that Richie Incognito wasn't the only one playing along with this. There were threats against Martin's sister. They said they are going to rape her. That he wasn't black enough. There was constant teasing and bullying. It took place for a season and a half.

The most damaging thing was this bipolar relationship that Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin allegedly had. One moment, they were best friends and the next moment, Jonathan Martin says that Richie Incognito would want to kill him. Part of this though for Jonathan Martin is moving past this. Yesterday, his lawyer reacted to this latest independent investigation.

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KENNY ZUCKERMAN, JONATHAN MARTIN'S AGENT: I'm just happy that we're able to move forward. I think Jonathan really wanted to get this behind him and start to focus on playing football in 2014.

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VALENCIA: Someone who may not be able to put this entirely behind them is one of the offensive lineman coaches who was implicated in this bullying. He actually took part in the jokes and knew about the culture and let it happen.

PAUL: All right, Nick Valencia, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: Still to come on NEW DAY, imagine going to a restaurant or checking into a hotel and being refused service because you are gay. That is exactly what critics fear could happen in Kansas if a new bill becomes law.

PAUL: We will talk about that, but first, Christine Romans has a preview of "YOUR MONEY," which is coming up in about an hour from now. Good morning, Christine.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. From Paula Deen's comeback to Jimmy Fallon's kickoff plus the new cable mega merger that might make watching anything a lot more expensive. That is what we've got coming up at 9:30 a.m. Eastern on all new "YOUR MONEY."

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Serena Williams started working with French tennis coach, Patrick Mouratoglou just days after crashing out at Roland Garros in 2012.

SERENA WILLIAMS, TENNIS PLAYER: For me to lose in Paris was completely disappointing. I was completely shattered.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shortly after that painful loss, Serena travelled to the Mouratoglou Academy for her first training session with Patrick.

PATRICK MOURATOGLOU: We went on the court and she was hitting. I watched her hit for 45 minutes. She sat down and turned to me and said, talk to me. I think we need to work on and I explained what it was. She said OK. Let's do it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Serena and Patrick have been working together ever since. He has the trophy cabinets to prove it. Serena agreed to store all of the trophies that they won together inside his academy.

MOURATOGLOU: We have Wimbledon trophy, the U.S. Open trophy, all of the other tournaments that she won so 16 trophies here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now Patrick is focused on adding to her grand slam total. If they succeed, they will be rewriting the history of tennis.

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PAUL: Bottom of the hour right now. I hope this Saturday has been good to you so far. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Here are five things you need to know for your NEW DAY. Up first, it could be another frustrating day for travelers. More than 500 flights are canceled today after thousands of flights grounded this week. A new storm is bearing down on the northeast. OK, we've got some good news here. Tens of thousands of homes in the east have their lights back on, that's good, but another 165,000 customers are without power.

PAUL: Number two, the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee, will remain without a union. Employees voted against the plan presented by the United Auto Workers. The UAW met fierce resistance from state Republicans who feared businesses would take their jobs out of Tennessee.

BLACKWELL: For number three, authorities in California have seized more than 2,000 pounds of what appeared to be illegal shark fins. They say 42-year-old Michael Wong was selling the fins out of his business in San Francisco. A new state law makes it illegal to possess shark fins for sale. The case was turned over to the district attorney.

PAUL: Number four, retired NFL player, Darren Sharper, facing multiple rape charges in Southern California this morning. He is under investigation for sexual assaults in three other states. Los Angeles county prosecutors charged the 38-year-old yesterday with drugging and attacking two women that he allegedly met at a West Hollywood nightclub. Investigators also say they are looking into claims that he raped five other women in the state of Arizona and in the cities of Las Vegas and New Orleans.

BLACKWELL: And at number five, actress Ellen Page makes a personal revelation that she is gay. The star of the hit movie "Juno" broke the news yesterday during a speech in Las Vegas for the human rights campaign. Her emotional announcement women brought the crowds to their feet there.

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ELLEN PAGE, ACTRESS: And I am here today because I am gay and because --

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BLACKWELL: The 26-year-old actress says she is speaking out now because she's tired of lying by omission.

PAUL: You know, it could be just a matter of time now before same-sex couples can marry legally in Virginia after a federal judge struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional, specifically that means pending any appeals, Virginia could be next in line to legalize gay marriage.

Now after the Supreme Court's ruling in favor of same-sex couples in June, we have seen dozens of federal suits challenging individual state bans on same-sex marriage. In fact just this week several conservative states issued rulings in support of same-sex marriage.

In Kentucky, a judge ordered the state to recognize same-sex marriages performed legally in other states. In Nevada, the attorney general and governor announced they no longer defend their state ban on same- sex marriage. And then going to Texas, a federal judge heard arguments in the case challenging that state's ban.

One state though is trying to buck the trend here -- Kansas. It's on the brink of passing a law that would allow -- listen to this -- certain businesses to refuse service to same-sex couples. It's called HB-2453. And it basically would protect anyone who refuses to serve a gay couple.

I want to bring in the executive director for Equality Kansas Tom Witt and executive director of the Kansas Family Policy Council Robert Nolan. Gentlemen thank you both for being with us. I do want to point out we invited several lawmakers who support this bill on our show. None of them including Governor Sam Brownback wanted to come on.

But Robert I want to go you first because I understand that you are a supporter of this bill. When we hear this, the first thing we think is doesn't this legalize discrimination in the eyes of the law?

ROBERT NOLAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, KANSAS FAMILY POLICY: No, I think what we have to look at is the reasoning for this bill to be considered as the fact that there have been lawsuits in other states where individual business owners, their sincerely held religious beliefs, have actually been targeted with lawsuits when they had declined to provide services in conjunction or related to the celebration of homosexual weddings. Bakers, florists, photographers -- those kinds of things.

And the bill is very narrowly crafted to -- to specifically categorize these as wedding-related businesses activities in celebration in performance of this homosexual marriage.

PAUL: Ok so wait a minute you're telling me that if a couple goes in -- if a same-sex couple goes into a restaurant just to have dinner, nobody can refuse them service based under this law? NOLAN: No, no. This is all very narrowly crafted to deal with the homosexual marriage industry. And we know that the story you just did on some of these states where the court challenges are happening. It is very possible that the tenth circuit or the Supreme Court could in fact vacate marriage amendments all across the country. And we think these protections are important at this time before that happens.

PAUL: Okay, listen --

NOLAN: -- but we are not advocating that anybody has separate facilities, separate water fountains anything like that which we've had in the past. This is specifically related to individual business owners who have sincerely held religious beliefs regarding the nature of marriage.

PAUL: Ok I want to point out we did reach out to Governor Sam Brownback as I said and you we wanted to see if he can come on the show. He declined. But he did give us a statement and I want to read that to you. He says, quote, "Americans have constitutional rights, among them the right to exercise their religious beliefs and the right for every human life to be treated with respect and dignity."

Here's the question that I have and Tom let me pose this to you. If -- if a couple let's say goes somewhere and maybe they are talking in an environment about a wedding. Ok we'll go to that. And they are refused service. How is there any dignity in that? Does this cross the line to protect religious freedoms?

TOM WITT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR EQUALITY KANSAS: There is no dignity in refusing service to gay and lesbian couples. But Bob is sadly misrepresenting this bill. Even the Senate president a very conservative Susan Wagel agrees with our analysis with the bill that it puts businesses in the position of not being able to control their own policies. And worst of all, it allows government officials to refuse to provide taxpayer services to gay and lesbian Kansans.

This bill is not narrowly crafted. It is so broad and so well encompassing that even the conservative Senate has taken a look at this and said this bill is going nowhere this session.

PAUL: I was going to say, what are the chances this thing is going to pass then, Tom?

WITT: Well, if Senate President Wagel says that she's not going to let the bill on the floor of the Senate, the chance is pretty slim that this Bill is going to have any chance of passage.

PAUL: Ok so let me ask you something, Robert, what brought it to this point? I mean are we understand that people you know they are -- they are allowed to have their own religious beliefs and do what they want. But what happened that -- that rose to this occasion where think you have to craft a law to protect them?

NOLAN: Sure. It is a very good question. And the reason is what I alluded to at the beginning of the interview. There are lawsuits in states where there are marriage amendments in place. Colorado and Oregon state where people who have sincerely have religious beliefs that have been targeted by lawsuits.

And I also want to address something that Tom mentioned. The protections for employers and employees in the bill are exactly the same thing that already exist in federal law. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act includes religious liberties is one of the area that is protected and this bill simply mirrors the protection that already exists on the federal level regarding the law in Kansas.

So there is no change regarding what an employee can or cannot do in the workplace. The undue hardship requirement is still in place.

PAUL: Ok this -- go ahead -- go ahead.

WITT: Well Robert -- Robert the Kansas Chamber of Commerce and Senate President Wagel disagree with you. You know, one thing I would like to really address here, this bill has nothing to do with cakes. It doesn't have anything to do with wedding pictures. Under Kansas law, discrimination against gay and lesbian couples is already legal. The states that Robert is referencing, those suits were brought under those state's nondiscrimination laws that include sexual orientation and they are protected class.

Kansas law doesn't protect sexual orientation. If the Supreme Court rules Monday morning that gay marriage is legal in Kansas, all that happens is gay people get married. There will not be any suits over wedding cakes there will not be any suits over wedding pictures, there won't be any suits over flowers because we can't get into the core of those issues in the state.

This bill was constantly being misrepresented. The point of this bill entirely is to allow government officials to deny serving tax paying gay and lesbian Kansans. That's the bottom line --

PAUL: All right I'm sorry gentlemen, we've run out of time. I apologize thank you both so much --

WITT: Thank you.

PAUL: -- for taking the time to talk with us today we appreciate it. Thomas Witt and Robert Nolan I appreciate it.

NOLAN: Thank you so much.

PAUL: Victor.

BLACKWELL: So this weather this winter has really physically taken its toll on people, but what about your mental health? I mean are you really feeling some winter blues? It's a real disorder.

Coming up, CNN's chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta explains what's behind it and how to beat it.

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PAUL: So California health officials say thousands of people in the Bay Area may have been exposed to measles. BLACKWELL: Yes a Cal Berkeley student who has not been vaccinated for the contagious virus attended classes last week and rode commuter trains. And now state health officials are warning anyone who rode B.A.R.T. commuter trains from February 4th to the 7th may have been exposed.

Also you know winter can be a tough season but this year especially, the coldest temperatures and all the snow and the ice I mean those areas don't normally see snowflakes and a lot of people just want to get rid of these dreary days.

PAUL: I mean it does affect you mentally and emotionally a lot of times.

So CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta is going to help you figure out how you can stay happy during these chilly days that are still ahead.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well Christi and Victor even if you love the cold and you love winter sports you've got to admit it's been a long winter. You know, at least 12 million Americans suffer from something known as Seasonal Affective Disorder -- or SAD, appropriately named.

It's caused by these longer nights and these shorter days and that can lead to a chemical imbalance in the brain -- too little serotonin and too much melatonin which can make you sleepy. That probably is going to surprise because the symptoms can be mild or severe but usually fatigue, lack of energy, oversleeping, difficulty concentrating and also craving for food that can cause weight gain. That's no good.

Diet and exercise always helps. Also getting outside. But there are also specifically these especially designed light boxes you can sit and stare at it for a while each day or put it on your desk. The point is to get more of a boost of natural light.

In some cases, doctors will recommend anti-depressants and psychotherapy -- anything to help you get through it. It's a real thing. And also they say open the blinds, play your favorite music, be with family -- laughter together and it's a great therapy for the winter blues -- Christi and victor.

PAUL: All right. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thank you so much.

BLACKWELL: So maybe you've heard about this chip and pin technology for credit cards. It is supposed to be safe and secure, but it turns out hackers are already finding a way around it. You will definitely want to hear this one.

PAUL: We were just talking about the winter blues here. Maybe the answer is real sunlight like in a warm, sunny spot. And if so, maybe you want to consider a trip to south Florida.

BLACKWELL: Yes, Nascar driver Brian Vickers gives us a tour of his favorite spot in Fort Lauderdale in this week's "Travel Insider".

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BRIAN VICKERS, NASCAR DRIVER: Hi, I'm Brian Vickers. I'm a Nascar driver. Fort Lauderdale is my city. We're here at Yolo's in Fort Lauderdale. It actually stands for "You only live once" which I find to be a great name.

You know I think Yolo's (inaudible) it's obviously the food, first and foremost. Being in Fort Lauderdale, it's good to have an open indoor/outdoor kind of atmosphere. And Yolo's really has that.

We are sitting here at the Fort Lauderdale Beach. This is the wave wall; it's one of the things that makes the Fort Lauderdale Boardwalk unique. You see a lot of people out here running on the boardwalk or riding bikes on the bike path, they're doing activities on the beach -- swimming in the ocean. It's a great place really to stay healthy, stay active especially if you're traveling on the road or if you live here.

Now we're at Coconuts -- one of my favorite places. It's a great place for a little 5:00 happy hour. It is a place you can go to. Not really a tourist spot at all -- kind of tucked away.

I love coming here on the boat and just kind of nice, slow cruise and sign up just going to a bar and sitting outside here somewhere and to have a nice cocktail with a friend.

When I'm at home, on the off season and not on the road, it is a great place to wrap the day up.

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PAUL: So Facebook is going beyond male and female, folks. The social network is adding new gender options to people's profiles. You now have 50 additional choice such as transgender, gender fluid, intersex and neither. I don't get the neither.

BLACKWELL: Yes, someone tweet me and explain this --

PAUL: Yes. Explain that to us please.

BLACKWELL: Ok.

PAUL: Just saying because I just want to know.

BLACKWELL: I generally want to understand it.

Ok, pictures of Apple's new iPhone 6. Could this be it? I don't know. A mysterious Twitter user posted these pictures of the possible prototypes. Apple is not commenting, of course -- they never do. But rumors suggest the next generation will include three sizes -- A 4 inch, a 4.7 inch and then the 5.5 incher. The new handsets are expected to be revealed at Apple's annual developer conference in June. PAUL: Ok. This one has been a head scratcher for some people. When the president of PayPal -- yes, PayPal, the company that touts itself as, you know, the safer, easier way to pay announced his own credit card had been hacked.

BLACKWELL: Yes. David Marcus said his information likely got skimmed from a hidden device attached to an ATM or some merchant's machine. Now, it is a scam we are all vulnerable to even as we've learned the head of PayPal.

PAUL: So what is really scary here though is that Marcus' credit card was equipped with that much hyped chip and pin technology we'd talked about -- you know, the so-called future of credit cards. The technology is supposed to be a fraud deterrent. The question now is why didn't it work?

BLACKWELL: Well, joining us to get -- give us some answers rather -- security expert and former FBI crime chief Scott Larson. Scott, good to have you with us. Let's start with this pin and chip technology -- the technical name is EMV -- used in Europe and other parts of the world. Soon coming to the U.S., right?

SCOTT LARSON, SECURITY EXPERT: Yes it is, in October of 2015. And even today, we do have a few of those cards in existence.

PAUL: Ok, so this is an encrypted chip as I understand it. It sounds safe, it sounds secure but what are the vulnerabilities of this kind of technology?

LARSON: It does have an encrypted -- or information that's not on the traditional credit card, it's on a magnetic stripe and can be easily counterfeited. The chip is much -- is encrypted and is a better technology. But in the U.S., we are using the chip and pin -- it's really chip and signature. So it is still much the same to a consumer. It is just a little more secure where it cannot be counterfeited as easily.

BLACKWELL: So the president of PayPal, David Marcus, he is using this experience to talk about, you know, how PayPal can help the world do business. Could people start using PayPal in stores?

LARSON: Sure. PayPal has a point of sale application. And they are widely used out on the web. So PayPal is a different solution. PayPal doesn't use your credit card during each transaction. It is actually you as a user much like online banking each time you do a transaction.

PAUL: You said something that I thought was interesting. You said right now, we have that strip and we have our signature. What good is our signature at this point, really? Do people check it?

LARSON: I think that is on a case by case basis. And I think we've all experienced where we swipe it and nobody really looks at it. They just are already handing us the receipt and saying good-bye. It is really the convenience to the consumer I think that we see. So, you know -- PAUL: So our signature is not protecting us at all right now?

LARSON: No, not at all.

PAUL: Ok.

BLACKWELL: Scott, you know, after we talked about Target and Neiman Marcus and those hacks and now we talked about the head of PayPal and his information skimmed. The overriding question is very simple and hopefully you have an answer for it. What is safe?

LARSON: What is safe? When we use our credit card, we have some risk. The whole credit card electronic payment industry is about risk. So anybody can be hacked. And unfortunately with the current technology from the criminal syndicates out there, it is really a cyber crime Olympics. So they have kind of the advantage if they get into a big database like Target's database. So it's a risk.

Usually you're going to be safe. But we all know people. Somebody might have been a victim of identity theft or credit card theft. We've all known people that have had problems but by and large, people don't experience credit card fraud. It is a cost of doing business. It is part of being the consumer in America. We like that convenience.

PAUL: All right. Well, you know, Scott Larson, we appreciate your perspective on this. Thank you for taking the time to be with us this morning.

LARSON: All right. Thank you.

PAUL: Sure.

BLACKWELL: Thanks Scott.

Still to come on NEW DAY, this is an amazing stunt. And the most impressive part of this is the finish. This is just giving you a hint. You have to see the rest of it. Stay with us.

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BLACKWELL: All right. Today's "Must See Moment" is guaranteed to make you feel something.

PAUL: It gives me the heebie-jeebies.

BLACKWELL: The heebie-jeebies -- maybe you'll feel that.

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Two extreme athletes attempting to walk a tightrope. So it's strung between some hot air balloons over these mountains in Spain. The first tries to make the journey, but halfway across, the man falls. Don't worry too much, he was wearing a parachute.

PAUL: Ok. It is time for the second guy to cross, right? He didn't fare much better. He gets to about the middle and he falls. Once again, he's caught by a parachute. But you know, kudos to them for trying.

BLACKWELL: The umbrella is a cute idea, I guess.

PAUL: They have some, dare I say, cojones.

BLACKWELL: Yes, they certainly do.

PAUL: Ok. Here is some good stuff to report out of all of that just severely bad weather this week. Case in point, what happened when a monster pile up hit the Pennsylvania turnpike Friday -- I mean 30 people were hurt, as many as a 100 cars and dozens of semis involved -- you see here. It shutdown the turnpike leaving people that were driving on it at the time stranded for about eight hours.

BLACKWELL: Our affiliate in Philly, KYW reports out of that chaos came some goodhearted folks with pizza, pretzels, water and some chocolate.

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JACK BOSNER, STRANDED: UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You tend to see the worst in people a lot times on the news and elsewhere. This morning, I see folks climbing down steep hills carrying food on their shoulders to people who are stuck here just seeing us on the news and bringing stuff to us. It's awesome.

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BLACKWELL: A little chocolate every once and a while will make you feel better.

PAUL: That's true, it does.

BLACKWELL: This is the right time. The troopers say a lot of the crashes happened as cars were slowing down to avoid accidents in front of them.

And much of the country maybe recovering from the deep freeze, but can you feel the heat? Lottery fever.

PAUL: Tonight's Powerball drawing now stands at $330 million. My seven-year-old would say, "That's worth a ticket, mom." No one has matched all six numbers since Christmas. That's 14 drawings ago.

BLACKWELL: Mega millions has its moment. Powerball now has its moment.

PAUL: And good luck to you.

BLACKWELL: $330 million will do it. It will do it.

Thanks for starting your morning with us.

PAUL: We have so much more ahead for you now on NEW DAY SATURDAY. So stick around -- that continues right now.