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Search Grid For MH370 Size Of Australia; President Putin Recognizes Crimean Referendum; Interview with Jo Wood, Ex-Wife Of Former Rolling Stone's Guitarist Ronnie Wood; Crime Scene Photographer Grilled by Pistorius' Defense; GM Recalls More Vehicles

Aired March 18, 2014 - 16:00   ET


BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: And tonight, a region annexed, a country on the brink as Moscow moves to formally absorb Crimea. We'll ask how far this man is willing to go in his quest to recreate Russia's glory days?

Also ahead...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Despite the long hours, more than a week-and-a- half into this search, the mood out here is determination.


ANDERSON: Bigger than all of western Europe, almost the size of the United States, we examine why the search for missing Malaysian flight 370 is expanding.



ANDERSON: Which is your favorite car?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, I'd have to say Cub I, because it was my father's car.


ANDERSON: At a new exhibition of Bond cars, we hear from the daughter of the creator of the iconic 007 brand.

ANNOUNCER: Live from CNN London, this is Connect the World with Becky Anderson.

ANDERSON: Right. I want to get you bang up to date on one of the key stories tonight. It is now going on 12 days and still no sign of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Inconceivable as it may sound, search crews are scouring an area of more than 2 million nautical miles. So far, they have turned up nothing.

Meanwhile, officials have examined the pilot's computers and email accounts, but found no new evidence.

Also, Thai authorities have released radar evidence that may show Flight 370 turning towards the Strait of Malaka.

We're going to have a lot more on this story coming up in the hour.

To, though, the deepening crisis in Ukraine at this point, the country's defense ministry has confirmed one serviceman was killed and another seriously wounded at a military base in Crimea. Now that came after it came under attack from a group of, quote, "armed men." The raid took place shortly after Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a treaty to formally adopt the region as part of Russia.

Well, that move met with thunderous applause from lawmakers in Moscow.


VLADIMIR PUTIN, PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA (through translator): In our hearts, we know the Crimea has always been and always remain an inalienable part of Russia. This is part of the justice which has gone from generation to generation, this is time is strong and we see this through all the dramatic changes, which have lived through our country has lived through throughout the 20th Century.


ANDERSON: Well, Putin's actions have incensed western leaders. U.S. Vice President Joe Biden said it was, and I quote, nothing more than a land grab. And President Obama called for an urgent meeting of G7 leaders to discuss the crisis in The Hague next week.

Well, our correspondents across the region for you, as you would imagine. Ivan Watson has the Ukrainian reaction from the capital Kiev. And Nick Paton Walsh is in the Crimean capital of Simferapol.

Nick, I want to start with you. A Ukrainian soldier killed in Crimea this Tuesday. Is this a sign of things to come for Ukrainians in the region?

NICK PATSON WALSH, CNN INTERANTIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think the major concern was once -- and everybody knew this would happen -- once Crimea was declared part of Russia, what would happen to those Ukrainian troops here still loyal to Kiev who don't want to surrender.

Now we had a glimpse of that when this incident at (inaudible) base it's called the 13th here in Simferapol. It -- we understand from the Ukrainian defense ministry, and from what seems to have been evidence on the ground to the chief warrant officer of the base was shot in the heart and a captain on the base was shot, heavily wounded, in the neck.

Now we saw an ambulance go in there and there were signs of shooting having happened there. We saw our crew heavily armed masked men moving in. They seem to have taken control of the base.

Now this is the first military death in Crimea. Vladimir Putin hours earlier had said that the annexation had occur without any bloodshed at all, but certainly not the case now.

And we went to a base in the northwest we've been to earlier in the week to check on them again. They were under great pressure also from Russian troops wearing masks and peaceful Russian protesters outside, too, demanding they hand themselves over. A local official handing them a piece of paper that he said was a decree from the de facto Crimean government here demanding that they move over to the Crimean Russian side.

So, real tensions, certainly Becky. I think the fear is now this has been declared part of Russia by Moscow, Russian troops and their supporters here will feel emboldened to basically clean up what they feel they need to, Becky.

ANDERSON: All right, Nick. Thanks for that.

Let's bring in Ivan in Ukraine's capital. Ivan, what's been a reaction to all of this in Kiev?

IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERANTIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Ukrainian government announced that it's authorizing its troops, its armed forces to basically fire back now. It's put this out in a formal statement in the wake of the killing of this office that you just heard about from my colleague Nick Paton Walsh.

So the tensions are ratcheting up. The rhetoric coming out of the Ukrainian government getting much more serious. Take a listen to what the prime minister had to say at a cabinet meeting earlier today.


ARSENIY YATSENYK, INTERIM UKRAINIAN PRIME MINISTER (through translator): As to today's events in Moscow, they can only be qualified in one way, this is a robbery on international scale when under the cover of military weapons one country is applying force thinking they will never be held responsible.


WATSON: So we're hearing about the partial mobilization of the Ukrainian armed forces with the government announcing that it's calling up 20,000 recruits, volunteers for the military, another 20,000 for a new organization called the national guard. We're hearing about troops, tanks, moving east towards the eastern borders where across the border we understand there has been a substantial buildup of Russian military forces.

And just anecdotally, talking to people on the street, Becky, here in Kiev ordinary people, men saying that they will volunteer, that they want to defend their country, the Ukrainian government is holding fast to its position that though Russia clearly controlled Crimea, that Crimea still is a piece of Ukrainian territory with Ukrainian government officials saying we will not give up our land without some kind of a fight so the tensions are escalating and the concern is what will happen if there is another shooting, if there is another death really looks like you have two neighbors heading towards the potential of open conflict.

ANDERSON: And clearly with more unrest being reported in parts of eastern Ukraine as well, we were talking to the UK ambassador of Ukraine here last night, and asking whether the international community is doing enough so far as the sanctions are concerned. It's pretty clear, I think, that the Ukrainians are disappointed in the weakness, the relative weakness of those actions against Russians and Crimeans at present.

But what about the possibility of international boots on the ground at this point? Any talk of that locally?

WATSON: Not at all. Ukrainian government officials, American government officials making it very clear that there have been no requests for international troops here, nothing of the sort. Certainly I've heard from Ukrainian government officials disappointment that the measures, the steps that are being taken by the European Union, by the U.S. don't go far enough.

And there really very much out there on their own, despite some statements to the contrary as certainly coming from U.S. government officials.

There's one other element to this that's a challenge for the Ukrainian government officials, recall these people have only been in office really for less than three weeks since the ouster of the former president of this country. They inherited massive debts. And there is still some polarization in Ukrainian society. We have seen protests in favor of Russia's actions taking place in eastern cities of Ukraine. And that has led the Ukrainian government to issue a statement to southern and eastern regions where there are large numbers of Russian speakers promising in the future more autonomy for the regions, promising to protect the right to speak Russian, some of the biggest complaints that have been coming from the Russian-speaking populations.

So the Ukrainian government trying to reach out to disaffected members of Ukrainian society while also being very conscious of the threat of the Russian military just across the border and in Crimea itself -- Becky.

ANDERSON: Well, clearly there's still a political crisis in Ukraine.

Ivan, thank you for that.

It has, though, clearly sent Russian President Vladimir Putin's approval ratings soaring as popularity amongst Russians is near its peak, something that can't be said about the leaders of the United States and Europe. We're going to have more on his rising power a little later in this show.

And from military to money, find out why this could be one messy divorce. That's one of the top stories in our website,

Well, still to come tonight, the search expands, international teams comb a massive area looking for any trace of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The latest on that for you is coming up.

And the U.S. automaker General Motors saying a new safety chief on the back of yet another round of recalls. We'll be live from New York on that story for you.

And they are recreating the scene of the shooting. We'll look at the role photography played in the Pistorius trial in South Africa today.

That more and much -- that and much more on CNN. This is Connect the World. 11 minutes past 8:00 in London. Stay with us.


ANDERSON: This is CNN and Connect the World. I'm Becky Anderson for you in London. Welcome back.

Now, a European Union spokesman says tensions over Ukraine are not affecting crucial nuclear talks now underway. Russia and five other world powers meeting with Iranian representatives in Vienna. Now they are trying to build on what is an interim deal on Iran's nuclear program and turned it into a permanent agreement by July.

It requires Iran to scale back its nuclear activities in exchange for sanctions relief.

Well, Israel is vowing to, and I quote, "forcefully defend itself," after a roadside bomb went off in the occupied Golan Heights wounding four Israeli soldiers. No one has claimed responsibility, but the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says, quote, "jihadists and Hezbollah elements have recently been infiltrating the Syrian side of the border."

Israel's military says it ultimately holds Syria's army responsible and fired at Syrian army positions in retaliation.

Well, Oscar Postorius covered his face with his hands during part of today's testimony in his murder trial. Graphic photographs of the crime scene were introduced as evidence. And later a ballistics expert took to the stand. Robyn Curnow with the details from Pretoria in South Africa.


ROBYN CURNOW, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: At the end of the session in the last 45 minutes we heard a ballistics expert Cooley (ph) describe how he tried to recreate the scene of the shooting. Now his testimony and cross-examination in the next day or two are going to be key for us to try and understand the state's case against Oscar Pistorius.

Crucially, does evidence on the ground fit neighbors and witness testimony that they heard screams, shouts, perhaps a fight before the shooting.

Now earlier on in they day we heard a police photographer being cross examined. Now there was minute attention to detail over many of his photographs and others taken at the crime scene. These were picked apart, the sequencing, the timing, the details compared between different photographs.

Now it wasn't just about this forensic analysis of some of these photographs, what we also saw was a large battle between heavyweights, legal heavyweights here. The state's prosecutor and the defense council going head to head, not giving an inch, even over the smallest detail of whether there were one or two people in the bathroom at one specific time.

BENNIE VAN STADEN, CRIME SCENE PHOTOGRAPHER (through translator): My lady, no, I did not seen. Approximately four by four meters.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you were both in the bath, as you and Colonel (inaudible), how did you miss him when you photographed?

STADEN (through translator): My lady, as I indicated I was alone in the bathroom when I took the photos.

CURNOW: Just one combative exchange that points to the kind of battle we're going to see over and over again in the coming weeks as both sides trying to point out inconsistencies in each other's version of events.

Robyn Curnow, CNN, Pretoria.


ANDERSON: Well, the U.S. automaker General Motors is in the spotlight once again after it announced three new recalls affecting another one-and- a-half million vehicles.

Now this comes after last month's recall of 1.6 million vehicles worldwide due to faulty ignition switches.

With more on this, I'm joined by CNN's Paul La Monica live from New York tonight.

And Paul, GM says the recalls will cost the company a total of some $300 million. No small change by any stretch of the imagination. How much pressure is that expected to put on what is a newly installed CEO at the company?

PAUL LA MONICA, CNN CORREPSONDENT: Yeah, Mary Barra clearly has been thrown in to the deep end of the pool, if you will, at her first few months as CEO. I think that she's done a pretty decent job all things considered, though, of managing this crisis. You know, everyone is going to be paying very close attention to see just how many more recalls need to be made and whether or not, you know, the number of people that were killed due to accidents related to these faulty ignition switches, if that goes significantly higher. And obviously that's not very good news for the company right now.

But I think she's done an admirable job of trying to stay on top of this and get ahead of any potential criticism.

ANDERSON: So what happens next?

LA MONICA: What happens next is probably GM continues to go ahead with its own internal probe of what happened a few years ago, why it took them this long to notice that there was a problem to begin with and make the recall. There is going to be a criminal probe, there will be a congressional investigation. So this is going to go on for several months. It's very similar to what happened to Toyota in 2010 when it faced recall issues of its own.

ANDERSON: All right, Paul, thank you for that.

Live from London, this is Connect the World. Coming up, new details about the apparent suicide of Mick Jagger's long-time partner, fashion designer L'Wren Scott. We'll be back after this.


ANDERSON: Connect the World live from London. Welcome back. I'm Becky Anderson.

And the Rolling Stones are indefinitely postponing their tour of Australia and New Zealand after the apparent suicide of Mick Jagger's long- time partner L'Wren Scott. Now the noted fashion designer was found dead in her New York apartment yesterday. In a web posting, Jagger said he's, and I quote, "struggling to understand how my lover and best friend could end her life in this tragic way."

CNN's Nina Dos Santos got an exclusive interview with the ex-wife of Rolling Stones guitars Ronny Wood. Jo Wood spoke about L'Wren Scott and Mick Jagger.


JO WOOD, EX-WIFE OF RONNY WOOD: She was like statuesque floating around elegant woman. Very hard to get close to, but at the same time she would always be really lovely to you.

I can't believe that she took her life. I think it's very, very sad. My heart really goes out to Mick.

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN INTERANTIONAL CORRESPONDENT: How has he been coping? You've obviously been speaking with your ex-husband Ronny who is on tour with him at the moment.

WOOD: He's devastated. He's absolutely devastated. I think it must be a real, real shock for him.

SANTOS: What do you think happened? Has there been any indication of whether it's depression, financial troubles? There's been talk about financial troubles with her design company.

WOOD: Well, maybe. That might -- I think if anything the financial thing might have been the trigger for her, because she was such a proud woman that I think to have to face that maybe that was the trigger.

I don't actually know. I'm surprised as much as everybody else.

SANTOS: How is Mick Jagger these days? And how was his relationship with her?

WOOD: I think they had a great relationship. They were together 13 years. I think if you wouldn't have a good relationship and stay with somebody for 13 years if it's not good.

SANTOS: Nevertheless, you obviously lived through many of his tumultuous relationships that bore many children, there were many affairs. Talk to me about those times. And also Mick Jagger's -- the man as well behind those relationships.

WOOD: Well, for Mick he has been, you could say literally center stage for all his life. And I think he's always had that adoration of women. He's a lead singer. And they always have that reputation.

But, you know, I am friends with Jerry, his ex. That's part of the job, isn't it. That's why women still throw knickers at him now, you know, he's that sex symbol up there even at 70. It's amazing.

SANTOS: What was it like being the other half of Mick Jagger for those people? Because as you said you're still good friends with a number of his ex-wives and ex-partners today.

WOOD: Mick is the most charming, charming man. And I think even if you are an ex of Mick's, he will always treat you well. And he will always -- he has that charisma, he has that charm. And I think that's where -- most of the women he's been out with he's friends with still.

SANTOS: L'Wren Scott incorporated her company LS Fashion Limited, as it was called, in 2006 in London. And if you take a look at the accounts since that period, well it does paint a picture of a company that has become increasingly indebted over the year. We've gone back towards the year of 2009 right at the height of the credit crunch as you can see. Long-term debts already for this firm standing at two-and-three-quarters of a million dollars.

When it comes to the net assets inside the company, that takes into account stock, et. cetera. That's around about 600,000 dollars. But the deficit stands already at in excess of 2 million dollars.

Fast forward a year. And as you can see the picture again is growing. Yes, the net assets are increasing, also thanks to the notoriety of L'Wren Scott and her client list as well and her designs, but the long-term debts are just shy of 4 million already. The deficit here is in excess of three.

If we take a look at the penultimate year for which accounts are available, 2011, now already the long-term debts have risen to a significant amount. We're talking about in excess of 6 million dollars. And that doesn't take into account the short-term debts which are already another million on top of that.

Net assets means she has around about 1 million inside the company at this point.

Deficit her, though, already in excess of four.

And this is the final year for which company accounts are available. They were last filed for the 31st of December 2012. As you can see, long- term debts now standing at 7.6 million. They're still around about 1.5 million dollars inside the company, but the deficit has now hit around about just shy of 6 million.

Well, I got the chance to speak with Jo Wood who is the ex-wife of Rolling Stone's rocker Ronnie Wood. She obviously knew L'Wren Scott and she told me what she thought about her relationship with Mick Jagger and also how these kind of financial pressures might have played into her life.


ANDERSON: And you heard that interview just earlier.

Nina Dos Santos there.

The latest world news headlines are just ahead on CNN. Plus, the anguish of not knowing. Family members react as the search area for a missing Malaysia airplanes -- Airlines plane expands.

And what about football makes its fans likely to abuse others? We'll speak to a psychologist for you tonight about a recently released survey.

Plus, we visited the largest collection of cars from James Bond films earlier and spoke to those -- some of those, at least, behind the world's most successful spy franchise. That all coming up in the next half hour. Stay with us here on CNN.


ANDERSON: International teams are now scouring an area of more than 2.2 million square nautical miles, trying to spot any trace of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane. These are your headlines this hour.

Meanwhile, the growing search has family members increasingly anxious over the fate of their loved ones.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): We only have one child. We are respectful Chinese people. It's hard to control your emotions when you might have lost your loved ones. We just need the truth. Don't use them as political pawns.


ANDERSON: Much more on this story coming up in just a few minutes' time, stay with us. One of Russia's most-wanted men has died. That is according to a Chechen jihadist website. Chechen warlord Doku Umarov has claimed responsibility for several Moscow bombings. Now, his death has not been independently confirmed.

At least two people were killed after the news that a helicopter they were in crashed near the Space Needle in Seattle. A man who managed to pull himself out of one of three burning cars on the ground is critically injured. The cause of the crash is not yet clear.

A Ukrainian soldiers has been killed at the base near Crimea's regional capital Simferopol. Defense Ministry spokesman said the base was attacked by armed people in masks. Kiev is calling the incident a, quote, "war crime" and it has authorized Ukrainian troops at Crimean bases to use weapons.

Meanwhile, Russian president Vladimir Putin says Crimea has always been a part of Russia, and now he's made it official at a signing ceremony with the prime minister of Crimea and the mayor of Sevastopol. And as Fred Pleitgen reports, his tough moves have sent his popularity soaring.


FRED PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Just hours after Russia's annexation of Crimea, a huge celebration on Red Square. The star guest, Vladimir Putin, condemned by the West, but at the height of his power and popularity here in Russia.

"We're for peace," this woman says. "We're for Putin, we're for Crimea, and we're for Sevastopol."

"Vladimir! Vladimirovich! We love you!" another screams. "We bow to you!"

And this man added, "Crimea is ours. It's Russia's, and it's always been ours and always will be."

Many hold signs welcoming Crimea, but to most, the annexation is also a victory over the West, a sign of a strong Russia with a strong leader.

PLEITGEN (on camera): There's 80 rallies like this one going on all across Russia, from Vladivostok in the far east to here in Moscow. And of course, they're well organized by Vladimir Putin supporters, but at the same time, there's no denying that Russian public opinion hugely favors his Crimea policies.

PLEITGEN (voice-over): As he walked to the podium to a standing ovation earlier, Putin quickly made clear he would not be intimidated by Western pressure. "Crimea has always been and remains an inseparable part of Russia," he said. "This conviction, based on truth and fairness, has always been resolute and was passed from generation to generation."

Once again, Putin denied that thousands of troops on the ground in Crimea were his, and blamed the West for allowing things to get this far. "In the case of Ukraine, our Western partners have crossed the line," he said. "They acted primitively, irresponsibly, and unprofessionally."

And then, flanked by Crimean leaders virtually no one had heard of three weeks ago, with the stroke of a pen, the peninsula was handed to the Russian Federation. While Putin was creating history, all Western leaders could do was criticize.

ANGELA MERKEL, CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY (through translator): The declaration of independence, which the Russian president also accepted yesterday, was against international law, and the incorporation to the Russian Federation, in our opinion, also goes against international law.

PLEITGEN: The US says Russia will pay a heavy price for annexing Crimea, but if poll numbers and public support are anything to go by, Vladimir Putin will not be too worried, knowing most Russians believe it will be worth it.

Fred Pleitgen, CNN, Moscow.


ANDERSON: A week and a half after Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 disappeared, international teams are scouring a search area that is growing, it seems, larger than ever and by the day. Planes from China, Indonesia, Australia, and Kazakhstan now helping Malaysian officials to lead efforts along two enormous arcs.

One stretches north over Asia, and the other extends into the Indian Ocean. The total area being searched now stands at 2.24 (sic) square nautical miles. It is almost inconceivable, isn't it? But it is true. So exactly how big is this search area? Let's get a better sense of the tough odds facing Malaysian authorities.

As you can see here, the search area for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is larger in square miles than the land mass of Western Europe. Dozens of international teams are carefully combing an area of land and sea that is bigger than the entire country of Australia, looking for any signs of the plane.

And as shown on this map, we can see that the search area roughly equals the entire surface of the continental United States. Just trying to ram it home here. CNN covering this story across the search region. Tonight, we're going to get a report from CNN's Sumnima Udas. She's in Port Blair in India, where search planes and military ships are on standby.

I want to begin, though, with CNN's Will Ripley in Kuala Lumpur. He visited the military air base where the international search effort is being coordinated, and he filed for you this report.


WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The search area for the missing airliner is unprecedented in its sheer scope. Dozens of ships, planes, and helicopters from 26 countries scouring an area roughly equal in size to Australia or the continental US.

HISHAMMUDDIN BIN HUSSEIN, MALAYSIAN ACTING MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION: The entire search area is now 2.24 million square nautical miles. This is an enormous search area, and it is something that Malaysia cannot possibly search on its own. I am therefore very pleased that so many countries have come forward to offer assistance and also support to this search and rescue operation.

RIPLEY: Officials believe there are two corridors, two potential paths the plane may have flown. The northern route stretches from Northern Thailand into central Asia toward the Caspian Sea, and to the south from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.

RIPLEY (on camera): We're here at the military air base at Subang Airport. This is the center of the international search and rescue operation happening here, being coordinated by the Malaysian military. More than two dozen countries are involved in this.

Just three countries right here on this air strip: the US, Korea, and Japan. They're using a lot of high-tech planes. This one is a P-3 Orion out of Japan. This thing can cover 15,000 square miles, or about 39,000 square kilometers, in a single 9-hour flight. So it can cover a lot of ground in a short amount of time.

And we know that the military in a lot of countries, including the US, will be relying much more heavily on high-tech aircraft like this.

RIPLEY (voice-over): Despite the difficulty of searching an area of this magnitude, countries, including the US, say they remain committed, sending more resources, more planes, to help look for the missing airliner.

WILLIAM J. MARKS, COMMANDER, US NAVY, SEVENTH FLEET: What we are out here doing is trying to get some closure, trying to get some evidence, trying to get some information. So, our focus is tactical on the surface of the water, trying to find any clue we can that's out here.

RIPLEY: But after more than a week, they've yet to find any trace of Flight 370, as families of the missing desperately wait for answers.

Will Ripley, CNN, Kuala Lumpur.



SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is Port Blair's military runway, from where India's air search was launched. You can still see naval aircraft standing over there. Right now, India's search operation is on standby as authorities await new direction for deployment from the Malaysian authorities, who continue to reassess areas of search.

For days, the Indian navy and air force have been searching an area spanning more than 250,000 square kilometers, nearly 100,000 square miles, from the Andaman Sea to the Bay of Bengal.

Port Blair is the administrative center of the Andaman and Nicobar islands. Not many places on Earth can compete with the untouched natural beauty of the archipelago. But Port Blair itself feels like a military containment. The airport is inside the naval base. Its most famous landmark, a historic jail where Indian freedom fighters were imprisoned during colonial times. Wartime weapons dot the town.

The islands have always been strategically very, very important for India because of their location, but since countries to the southeast of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, like Malaysia and Thailand, aren't considered to be a threat to India, the majority of India's defense resources have been centered around the border of Pakistan and China.

But still, officials say even though India's radar surveillance is not foolproof, it is highly unlikely that an unidentified airplane could have entered Indian airspace undetected.

Sumnima Udas, CNN, Port Blair, Andaman and Nicobar Islands.


ANDERSON: This really is remarkable stuff, isn't it? The plane's disappearance is a mystery that has captured headlines and captivated people around the world. We went out into the streets of London to find out what it feels, or those wandering the streets feel about what is a baffling story. Have a listen to what people said.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can't believe it, to be honest. And to be missing for so long. They were saying that it might be in Australia, might be in India. They've been -- they turned around and said it had been flying for like five hours, but how do they know that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's like the TV program "Lost." It's reenacting it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I guess empathy for the families and friends of the people who've been lost or haven't been found.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fact that there's so much technology in the world, that a plane could just go missing of that size.


ANDERSON: Well, it will be no surprise to you that we have an enormous amount of information on the blog. That's, as you can see there. You can watch as I step inside a flight simulator, for example, and learn from an engineer and radar systems specialist exactly how a plane might be able to escape detection, for you.

Live from London, you're watching CONNECT THE WORLD. She went from teller to the top and tells us her key to success is generosity of spirit. Westpac Bank's chief executive Gail Kelly is tonight's Leading Woman.

And more than half of all professional footballers in England said they've witnessed it. Is it mob mentality or overreaction? We're going to talk about racism's relationship with football.


ANDERSON: She has climbed the corporate ladder and she's got all the way to the top. Gail Kelly shot up the ranks in Australia's finance sector, starting out as a teller, and now holding the top job at one of the country's leading banks. She tells CNN's Nina Dos Santos the secrets to her success.


NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In Australia's business sector, she's a standout for many reasons.

GAIL KELLY, CEO, WESTPAC: Profits that we make go back into the community via dividends and via investment in our business.

DOS SANTOS: Her role as head of the country's second-largest bank has self-assurance and even her platinum hair.

KELLY: Often really what you need is someone who'll believe in you, who'll encourage you to believe in yourself.

DOS SANTOS: She's Westpac's chief executive Gail Kelly, at the helm of a company with nearly 40,000 employees.

DOS SANTOS (on camera): So, how would you describe your own personal management style? Because there's nobody really managing you at the helm of the organization.

KELLY: Oh, no, there's -- I have lots of people managing me. Firstly, there's a chairman and a board, and secondly, there's that whole stakeholder group out there and the responsibility that I carry to my employees and to my customers --


DOS SANTOS: And shareholders.

KELLY: -- and shareholders. But my own style, firstly, I am an optimistic and I'm a positive person. The other element of style, and I'm again, perhaps, unusual for a banking CEO to talk about, is this element of generosity of spirit.

I truly believe that you want to create an environment where people can perform best. And for that, you want to avoid cynicism, you want to avoid negative messaging.

DOS SANTOS (voice-over): Kelly stepped into the top job in 2008, following a successful run as the CEO of another Australian Bank, which Westpac ultimately acquired. Kelly oversaw that acquisition.

KELLY: Thank you very much, everyone, I really appreciate it. Thank you.

DOS SANTOS: Gail Kelly's story sounds to many like a fairy tale. A young South African woman starts as a bank teller in 1980 and later goes on to become a CEO, all the while juggling a marriage and four children. But in her case, the story is all true.

DOS SANTOS (on camera): What did you want to be when you were growing up? Do you remember?

KELLY: That's a great question. My father was very keen for me to be whatever I dreamed of, and he had visions of doctor, lawyer, engineer, flying to the moon. Those were the days, of course. From a really early age, I wanted to be a teacher. I loved my own school and thought this was the way I'd like to spend my time.

DOS SANTOS: Yes, and then you made the change, right? You went into banking.

KELLY: I went into banking. Yes, that was almost more by accident than by design. I needed to do some work, I wasn't sure what I could do, and ended up falling into banking, started as a teller in Nedcor Bank in Johannesburg.

DOS SANTOS (voice-over): After more than a decade in the banking sector in South Africa, Kelly and her family moved to Australia in 1997, where her star continued to rise in the industry.

KELLY: Oh, well, yes, I've had a lot of luck along the way. And I worked for great organizations, I'd have to say. Nedcor Bank was just outstanding the way they supported me all the way through my career, gave me great opportunities.

DOS SANTOS (on camera): How important do you think it is to recognize your capabilities?

KELLY: I look at --


DOS SANTOS: And limits, by the way.

KELLY: Yes -- oh, very important to have a self-awareness. That's absolutely a fundamental leadership capability, to be aware of your strengths and your limitations and to work on those limitations, obviously, but also to complement and supplement for them.


ANDERSON: You can find out more about Gail Kelly and the rest of our Leading Women at the website. Browse past profiles there, learn their top tips for success and hear from trail blazers in fields from fashion to finance. That's CNN's Leading Women site,

Well, coming up after the break, is football for all? Well, not according to a new survey. We're going to show you the ugly side of the beautiful game, but we're also going to talk about what is the fantastic side of the game, Champions' League tonight, give you the results on that.

And license to drive? Well, 007 is associated with as many cars as actors. We visited a new exhibition, Bond in Motion. That tonight for you.


ANDERSON: Well, the second leg of Round 16 of the Champions' League underway. We're just at halftime with Chelsea facing Turkey's Galatasaray at home for a spot in the quarterfinals. And nothing short of a miracle will let German team Schalke advance to the next round. They face Real Madrid, who are hoping to land their first Champions' League title since 2002.

Well, let me give you a sense of what's happening at halftime. The game just about to kick off, 1-all in the Real-Schalke game. That is 7-2 on aggregate. Let me tell you this: Cristiano Ronaldo scoring tonight his 11th Champions' League goal this season, and tonight his 63rd goal in UEFA club competition. I do think that's absolutely remarkable.

Two-nil is where things stand with Chelsea-Galatasaray, 3-1 on aggregate. So, at this stage at least, Chelsea would be going through. But if you got two goals from Galatasaray's Didier Drogba tonight, that would be enough to send the Turkish team through.

Now, given all the rumors about him wanting to go back to Chelsea, who knows what will happen, but you can never write him off. What a game of -- couple of games of football you've got tonight, all good stuff, and we'll keep you bang-up-to-date, of course, on what is going on.

But while all that is taking place, let's turn our eye to the issue of racism in football. A new survey just released in England says that racism is still rife.

Now get this: 24 percent of all professional football players have been subjected to racist abuse in stadiums, while 7 percent have been subjected to abuse on the training ground or in the dressing room. On top of that -- and this is 2014 -- 39 percent have witnessed homophobic abuse.

But what pushes people to this kind of behavior? Well, I'm joined now by psychologist Linda Papadopoulos, who is a guest with me on set tonight. Like I said, this is 2014. You simply don't expect to hear those sort of statistics, and yet, this is clearly true. Why?

LINDA PAPADOPOULOS, PSYCHOLOGIST: You know, there's a lot of reasons why. If you look at the social psychology of it, if you think about how our behavior changes when we're in a group, and why does that happen?

It happens because there's a diffusion of responsibility. So this whole idea of herd mentality or mob mentality. Whether we're on Twitter, feeling that we're electronically surrounded by people, or whether we're on a pitch, it has an effect.

I think the other thing that's really important is the idea of a sense of entitlement. So, you do something wrong, you don't score the goal, so I feel that I'm perfectly entitled too abuse you. Now, if that abuse is something that I want to hurt you with, something that's accepted by the person to my right and to my left, then it's something I'm going to do.

And I think thirdly and really importantly, the problem is is that we're not seeing enough diversity. Now, in the UK, in Chelsea, I think we do. We see some, I think, diversity. But how about in managerial positions? I was reading today that only 2 of the 92 managers are actually non-white, 2 out of 92.

Now, that also sets a precedent. And again, if you look at where this racism is happening a lot, it's in countries where there's not that much ethnic diversity and you're not seeing it. So --

ANDERSON: I was going to say, how does what you hear in stadia reflect the way that a people will think? Because we don't all want to be tarred with this brush, but as you say, clearly in certain parts of the world, there are pockets of people who will act in the way and say the sort of things that they're saying around the stadia wherever they are.

PAPADOPOULOS: Absolutely. And we know it's the same thing with homophobia, with racism. And again, it's this -- it's adrenaline-filled, a lot of people are drunk in those stands. So the idea that they would behave like that under normal circumstances isn't true anyway.

ANDERSON: We -- I wanted to find out what just some people around town today thought of this research. Have a listen, viewers, to what we got.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Football, it's really just organized tribalism, really, because you just sign up to a team and support a team, and it's a basic -- you're with a pack, it's a pack mentality, and you hate the other tribe.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been a football follower for a long time, and I can remember when it was a lot worse than it is now. I think things are improving. But it won't happen overnight, sadly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People who support football, they're tougher than normal people, so the way to settle something is with a fight.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Group mentality, I think, just where you get sort of people originating back to some kind of tribal mentality.


ANDERSON: I think these guys absolutely agreeing with what you said, this kind of sense of herd mentality, this tribal mentality. Paul Mortimer, who is the former Charlton and Crystal Palace player here.

He was appointed Kick it Out's professional player engagement manager, partly in response to the criticism of the campaign in the past, said that he thought carrying out this survey was absolutely critical and an important first step.

And he said, and I quote, "These statistics show what players see from the pitch and in the training grounds. Now we have these figures, we can go ahead and do something about it, pinpoint areas and put strategies in place."

Look, when we had in the 70s and 80s, hooliganism, which really tarred the game, it was about doing things at club level that really made a difference. Is that the way to go?

PAPADOPOULOS: It's absolutely the only way to go. As psychologists, we talk about changing behaviors. You can't change behaviors unless you change attitudes. And how do you change attitudes?

It's all this subliminal stuff. It's about players on the pitch not doing it, not making racist comments, racist chants. That would go a long way. It's about more, I think, diversity at all levels of clubs.

And it's about when people come up -- there was, I think it was a couple weeks that one of the players tweeting and saying you know what? I was racially abused. And he got more abuse on Twitter. It's about having some sense of accountability.

Because it's all well and good at saying herd mentality, but the problem is when there is no accountability, this is what you get.

ANDERSON: Always a pleasure having you. Thank you, Linda, for that.

All right, in tonight's Parting Shots for you, a bit of vroom-vroom from an iconic brand. I went inside what is a museum in London today. Take a look at the largest collection of cars, gadgets, and gizmos used by 007. Take a look.


ANDERSON: Bond wouldn't be Bond without his gadgets and fast cars. From the antique to the cutting-edge, a new exhibition in London showcases the largest official collection of vehicles used in the 007 movies. From the early days, Bond relied on high-tech to get him out of trouble.




ANDERSON: But the producers have often had to rely on basic techniques.

CHRIS CORBOULD, SPECIAL EFFECTS, BOND MOVIES In those days, there was no computer graphics, there was no optical effects, even. So, they would have had to do this all for real. They drive a real car into the water, they shot underwater all the various actions of the Lotus.

It was very exciting time because it was a Lotus and the first time it was every used in a James Bond film. So there was a lot of anticipation.

ANDERSON: Even in the modern films starring Daniel Craig as Bond, the stunts, still daring, are no less dangerous.

VIC ARMSTRONG, FORMER BOND STUNTMAN AND STUNT COORDINATOR: When you look and going across those roofs, no more than a 14-inch-wide strip of cement, and if you come off that, they're not under cranking, which means making the film go faster, they're actually running at real speed, it's just phenomenal.


ARMSTRONG: And then the end of it, they jump through a window and land in a shopping mall in Turkey in the suit, again with people around, and they land and get complete control after the first bounce and squared away and spin the wheels and go away from it. It's just phenomenal bike control.

ANDERSON (on camera): Well, it isn't just James Bond who gets to drive these fancy, fast cars, it is, of course, the bad guys, too.

ANDERSON (voice-over): The iconic Aston Martin DB5 is featured in no less than 6 of the 22 Bond films. The producers of the franchise recognize just how important the Bond cars have been to 007's success.

MICHAEL G. WILSON, PRODUCER/SCREENWRITER, JAMES BOND FILMS: I think people, when they ask what the next film is, they say, "Who's the girl and what car does Bond drive?"

ANDERSON (on camera): Well, fast cars and fancy women and a Bond, of course, in every movie. Which is your favorite car?

BARBARA BROCCOLI, PRODUCER, JAMES BOND FILMS: Oh, I have to say CUB 1, because it was my father's car, and he used to drive me to school in it, and we'd go --

ANDERSON: Seriously?

BROCCOLI: Oh yes. No, I used to make him park up the road and I'd walk --


BROCCOLI: -- because it was a Rolls-Royce.

ANDERSON: What do you drive these days, out of interest?

WILSON: Oh, I -- a Jag, of course.

ANDERSON: And you?



BROCCOLI: What can I say? I'm a mum.

ANDERSON: So, can I expect that the next Bond movie, which of course comes out in 2015, will star for the first time a Volvo or not?

BROCCOLI: Only if there's a mum in the film.



ANDERSON: Barbara Broccoli, there. Well, I'm Becky Anderson, that was CONNECT THE WORLD from London. Thank you for watching.