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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

Now violence shuts down Pakistan's busiest airport for the second day in a row. Now the Pakistani Taliban are claiming responsibility again.

Plus, emotions run high in South Korea. The trial opens for the captain and crew of the ferry that sank and killed some 300 passengers.

And with the World Cup just days away, we'll look at the new goal line technology being used for the big event.

A search is underway near the main airport in Karachi, Pakistan for gunmen who just hours ago carried out what is now the second attack around

that airport in just two days.

Now a CNN news team was filming close by when they heard gunfire, which officials say came from an attack on an airport security forces

academy.

Now today's violence, it comes after an hours long siege that claimed 36 lives on Sunday night. Now the Pakistani Taliban are claiming

responsibility for both attacks. And they warn that more violence will follow.

Now let's get straight to Karachi now for the latest. CNN's Saima Mohsin is there. And Saima, you were right there on site when that

security threat was announced. Could you tell us what happened?

SAIMA MOHSIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Kristie. My team, my cameraman Javez (ph), producer Safir (ph) and I were filming

around the hangars and cargo holds that were burnt out when the suicide bombers on Sunday night detonated their explosives. We were being shown

around by the airport manager and his team taking a look at the extent of the damage of Sunday night's attack when suddenly we saw his team running

towards us telling us to clear the area immediately, we must get to safety.

We were filming at the time. We got into the van. We were told to leave that area. And they took us back to the terminal building, terminal

one. And we thought we would be safe there, but then they asked us to leave that building too, get into our cars and get away from the airport.

Now as we were leaving we found out from another one of his team, that the attack that was underway was underway right next door at the airport

security force academy.

Now these are the people, the very force, that held off the militants in the first place when they first tried to get into the airport on Sunday

night. So they found themselves coming under attack today.

We then traveled to that -- or as close as we could to that area to find out what exactly was going on, because the situation was incredibly

unclear. And that's when we saw this huge armed response, Kristie, dozens of vehicles, of rangers, police, armored personnel vehicles and ambulances,

at least 30 counted by my producer on their way to the security force academy -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: And Saima, the Pakistani Taliban, they have claimed responsibility for this attack as well as the one that took place on

Sunday. What do these attacks say about he strength of this militant group in Pakistan?

MOHSIN: Well, Sunday's night's attack, clearly very bold and brazen. They were well planned. When they -- when we were looking around this

morning, we saw the backpacks that the attackers had taken in with them. They had brought fruit, dried fruits with them, dates, nuts, clearly hoping

to last the distance.

The interior minister late last night held a press conference saying that they believe through their intelligence that the plan was to try and

make it to the main terminal building to hijack a plane of course creating even more fear and chaos.

Now the interior minister also said that all the 10 militants that have been killed, or detonated their suicide bombs have been identified as

Uzbek militants. Now we know that Uzbeks are one of many nationalities that work with the Pakistan Taliban. So clearly the Pakistan Taliban,

Kristie, are saying that they have the strength and the power to hit and hit hard and bold and brazenly right in the heart of Pakistan's largest

city in Pakistan's largest and busiest airport.

Today's attack, Kristie, what we found out is it wasn't a major attack, it was a few gunmen, a handful of gunmen -- we don't have an exact

figure -- that had shot at the main entrance to the airport security force and then they made their getaway when they were met with the armed

response. So, a smaller group of people.

But the point is it doesn't matter how many they have, they are able to create chaos -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Saima Mohsin reporting live on the scene there in Karachi, Pakistan. Thank you, Saima.

Now the Iraqi prime minister has asked parliament to declare a national state of emergency announcing a maximum alert.

Now senior police officials say hundreds of militants have seized control of key areas in the northern city of Mosul. Now Iraq's parliament

speaker says that the attacks amount to a total occupation of Nineveh Province.

Now police say gunmen freed up to 1,000 inmates from the central prison in Mosul. They say the militants are members of the al Qaeda

affiliated extremist group the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

Now emotion has been overflowing, meanwhile, in a courtroom in South Korea. Now the captain and 14 crew members of the capsized Sea Wolf ferry,

they went on trial today.

Now remember, nearly 300 people, most of them high school students, died when the vessel sank almost two months ago.

Now grieving families arrived for the proceedings. The captain and three of his crew are charged with murder. Now the others are accused of

abandoning ship.

As the trial got underway, some distraught, very emotional relatives, they begin screaming and yelling until the judge restored order.

And Paula Hancocks joins us now live from Gwangju in South Korea, that's where the proceedings have been taking place. And, Paula, walk us

through day one of the trial.

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORREPSONDENT: Well, Kristie, it was a very emotionally charged day as you might imagine. There were more

than 90 relatives of those victims that actually came here to the court, because they wanted to see the men who prosecutors are accusing of telling

their children to stay put on a sinking ship.

Now it was the first time that many of these families -- in fact all of these families -- would have seen the captain and the 14 crew members in

person. So as they came into the court room. We know that they started shouting and cursing at the defendants until the judge actually kept

control once again of his court. So a very emotionally charged day.

Now as you say, the captain and three of the crew members have been charged with murder. The captain is denying them, saying that he is not

guilty of that count. The captain's lawyer basically saying that it was not his responsibility to load the cargo, for example. That is one of the

issues investigators are pinning on potentially causing he capsizing of this ship. It was overloaded. It wasn't secured properly.

Now the captain's lawyer also saying that he believes that some of those who are more responsible are trying to shift the blame onto him. And

so certainly it was -- there were certain moments in the court where the families had outbursts once again, for example when the captain's lawyer

said that the captain is living with the guilt of what has happened every single day. That angered families.

Now one of the fathers I spoke to after the court case, he lost his 16-year-old son in that ferry tragedy told me that as soon as he saw the

captain he just wanted to kill him. He said he felt helpless. He was sitting and watching proceedings exactly the same as he was just back in

April when he was sitting by the side of the harbor watching what was happening then when the ship was sinking know there was nothing he could

do.

So a very difficult day for the families of these victims -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: A very, very difficult day indeed. A lot of anger being directed at the captain who, as you just mentioned, he was the one who

managed to escape while hundreds of passengers, many of them school children, were still trapped inside that sinking ferry two months ago.

Now Paula, how likely is it that the captain, who is charged with murder, would be handed the death penalty in South Korea?

HANCOCKS: Well, the death penalty is obviously the highest conviction that he could have. And if he's found guilty of murder, he could face

that. But it is worth mentioning that for almost two decades now, the capital punishment has not actually been carried out in this country.

There have been people who have been sentenced to death penalty. They are effectively sitting on death row, but the capital punishment simply hasn't

been carried out. So it's not clear whether or not that will be the sentence, of course, that will be brought against the captain and the three

crew members.

There are some of those out there, though, that are questioning whether or not this trial will be fair. I spoke to one lawyer not related

to this case, but he had met with the captain and two of the crew members. And he said that he was concerned by the way they had been demonized by the

Korean media.

The fact there is so much anger, so much grief in the country still. It is raw emotion when it comes to this Sewell ferry tragedy. He is very

concerned that simply that the trial will not be free and fair.

But we have heard from court officials saying that it will be swift and fair. It will be a judge who is presiding. It is not a jury case. So

they are insistent that it will be fair -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Paula Hancocks reporting live from Gwangju, South Korea. Thank you, Paula.

Now you are watching News Stream. And still ahead on the program, we bring you another report from Aleppo. Now rebel forces go underground in

their battle against the government. We'll take you there.

And Boko Haram has terrorized thousands in Nigeria. In an exclusive report, we meet two girls whose childhoods have been stolen by the terror

group.

Also ahead on News Stream, Hillary Clinton's new memoir it goes out on sale today. And we'll take a look at what is revealed in the book and what

it means for a possible run again for the White House in 2016.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you are back watching News Stream.

Now Syria's bloody civil war has been raging for three years. More than 100,000 Syrians have been killed and even more are now refugees. But

former UN special envoy for Syria Lakhdar Brahimi says the international community is not paying enough attention.

He resigned in protest last month and he's now speaking to Christiane Amanpour.

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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What do you know about what Assad knows?

Do you -- did you ever talk to him about the torture, the barrel bombs, the 160,000 dead and climbing?

LAKHDAR BRAHIMI, FRM. UN ENVOY TO SYRIA: I certainly talked to him about the suffering of his people. I talked to him about the list of

political prisoners, 29,000-plus of them. And I gave the list to his office.

You know, I mean, do you really believe that he doesn't know about the barrel bombs that are being dropped almost every day by his air force? If

things continue as they are now, by next year Syria will be a failed state.

AMANPOUR: A failed state, that is very, very frightening, particularly since so many people are telling us right now that the

blowback is already happening, that the jihadi terrorist extremist experience there is most definitely a risk to the West.

BRAHIMI: I don't think that much of the West. I think of the neighbors of Syria. You know, Lebanon is in immediate danger. They cannot bear 1

million and a half refugees and growing. Jordan cannot bear also 700,000 or 800,000 of refugees. Even Turkey cannot bear the 700,000 of refugees they

have.

So the danger to the neighborhood is extremely serious and immediate. A conflict like this cannot be bottled up in one country forever. Either

you solve it or it will spill over all over the place.

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LU STOUT: And that was Lakhdar Brahimi there.

Now yesterday, we brought you a disturbing look at life inside the Syrian city of Aleppo. And now we're showing you the other side of the

battleground, a network of tunnels. Now rebels are filling them with explosives and launching these deadly surprise attacks underneath

government positions.

Nick Paton Walsh reports.

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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Syria's rebels and civilians are used to enduring this. Yet this blast was different, a rare

moment the regime has targeted. Rebels now some time table (ph) to tear through the front lines, bringing horror for once to the regime's door.

Rebels are engaged in the same battle to the same streets like that one that I saw 22 months ago. But to try and break that stalemate, they

are digging tunnels underneath regime positions in a bid to detonate bombs underground.

This is the rebel answer to the regime's owning the skies with their jets and helicopters. Anyone with a shovel can own the dark.

Above them, they hope is the military behind the air attacks that have brutalized Aleppo for months.

"We've doing it for about a year," he tells the cameraman, "because we couldn't find a solution for how to blow up the military targets that are

so well defended."

They have to feel by noise and compass, inch by inch, insisting they avoid civilians.

"Residential areas where snipers are based are above us. All of them are snipers, so you can consider this a military zone. God willing, they

will be above us and we under them."

They let these pictures be filmed as they'd almost completed the tunnel. Then, they detonated it.

40 regime soldiers killed in this, say activists. While it is the regime more broadly advancing, this is a rare moment when rebels feel

empowered, filming the blast from different angles.

And where the tide of killing here changes direction briefly.

Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Aleppo.

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LU STOUT: Now Nick says, quote, it is baffling how life is sustained in Aleppo.

You can read more about his experience on his website. Just look for his reporter's notebook on CNN.com.

Now artificial intelligence is breaking boundaries.

Now one computer program, it tricked interrogators into thinking that it's more man than machine. After the break, we examine the hype and look

at just how clever this program is.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back.

You're watching News Stream. And you're looking at a visual version of all the stories we've got in the show today.

Now we've already told you about the latest attack in Pakistan's largest city. And in a moment, we'll take you to Sao Paulo, Brazil to

check the mood there ahead of the World Cup.

But now I want to tell you a little bit about a chat bot that's been getting a lot of attention.

Now the University of Reading says the computer program, it's called Eugene Goostman, has passed the iconic Turing test.

Now it's based on a paper written by the computer science pioneer Alan Turing back in 1950. And it asks can machines think? And it sets up

guidelines to determine the answer.

Now here's the basic premise. Now a person participates in a chat and has to decide if the responses are coming from another human or a computer.

Now we tried it out for ourselves and we asked Eugene what do you watch on TV. And then bot, again pretending to be a 13-year-old teenager from

Ukraine, it answered, quote, "in our country, TV is pretty boring, mostly news and old Soviet movies."

So we then couldn't resist asking do you like CNN?

And then Eugene replied, quote, "not too much."

And then he tried to change the subject there.

Now CNN contributor and New Yorker.com editor Nick Thompson joins us live from New York with more on this development.

And Nick, I mean, this program, obviously it has a sense of humor built into it, but just how sophisticated is this program called Eugene

Goostman?

NICK THOMPSON, NEW YORKER.COM: Well, it's fairly sophisticated. It did get one-third of the judges to actually think it was a Ukrainian boy

and not a computer. And that's a significant accomplishment.

But it did it not through real intelligence, not through what Alan Turing though of when he designed the test, but as you demonstrated through

humor, through misdirection, through confusion. It mimicked the way a 13- year-old boy would mock somebody asking questions and therefore was, you know, fairly persuasive to some people.

LU STOUT: Yeah, it's very good at the pivot, sort of like changing the topic when it really doesn't know the answer.

Now, but the program, it did fool enough people to pass the famous Turing test. So what does it mean for the future of artificial

intelligence?

THOMPSON: Well, first, there's a bit of controversy over whether really this is the proper definition of a Turing test when you can get one-

third of people in a five minute chat. Do you actually need to have a longer conversation? How exactly should this be defined? There's a lot of

debate within the AI community.

What this means is that there's been a fairly narrow, fairly clever advance. But what's interesting is that a lot of people in the AI

community are sort of depressed. This was the iconic challenge. This was the thing that would show that computers had become really intelligence.

Alan Turing said it would happen 50 years after his paper. We're now 65 years afterward. And what this thing demonstrates is that the best we can

do is through joking, through misdirection, through pretending to be a teenager. It's not close to what Turing wanted.

And so actually what should be a momentous moment for artificial intelligence researchers is a little bit of the opposite.

LU STOUT: Yeah, it should be a momentous moment, but it's more of a parlor trick, right? But does this program, this so-called Eugene Goostman

does it reveal more about us, about our willingness to believe, our general gullibility?

THOMPSON: Well, absolutely. I mean, it shows something about our gullibility, it shows something about the difficulty in identifying what's

real and what's not real. People who are very concerned say oh my gosh, this could lead to all kinds of cyber crime, right, you can imagine a bot

that is somehow able to fool human security guards, or fool IT professionals who are protecting some sort of data base.

So, there are a lot of concerns about that. There are a lot of concerns that there can be more deceit on the Internet, as though there's

not enough right now. And so that's another reason why people are a little bit frustrated over what should be a very exciting thing.

LU STOUT: And finally your thoughts on the general state of play in the world of AI today? I mean, you've got Eugene. He already joins the

chess playing bot Deep Blue, also that jeopardy contestant Watson. So all in all, just how intelligent, just how smart are our machines today?

THOMPSON: Super interesting question.

So, in the way that people used to think of AI, which is kind of can machines solve particular tasks, can they be like humans? They're not

doing that well. They're very good a narrow tasks. An AI machine can beat us at chess, but it can't do all the things that we can do. It can't learn

the way a child can learn. It can't mimic our minds at all. So in that sense artificial intelligence has kind of failed. It's a little bit

disappointing. It's frustrating. It hasn't lived up to its promise.

On the other hand, look at the Google car. Look at big data. Look at the way search sometimes work which uses artificial intelligence programs.

And if you look at the ability that we now have, cars that can drive us around without our own volition, that's pretty amazing.

So what's happened is that there's one direction of AI, which is you know let's try to make machines that are just like humans in particular

tasks and that hasn't been so great, but there are all those other research into artificial intelligence that's pretty amazing.

So, you've got one, you've got the other.

LU STOUT: All right, Nick Thompson, super interesting answer there. Thank you. Take care. We'll talk again next week.

THOMPSON: Thank you, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Now new technology will be on display when the World Cup kicks off this week. A camera system will help officials determine whether

a goal is scored. And while some believe that goal line technology strays from tradition, others say it will leave no room for error.

Amanda Davies shows us how it works.

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AMANDA DAVIES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Here in Brazil, considered by many, to be the spiritual home of football, a real line in the sand is

set to be drawn in the next couple of weeks.

No more will there be doubts about whether or not a goal is scored, the 2014 World Cup will go down as the first to use goal line technology.

BJORN LINDNER, GOALCONTROL: GoalControl system uses seven cameras to goal. The cameras are mounted on the catwalk. So we have them mounted in

a half a circle around each goal. And the cameras are high speed cameras, they take up to 500 pictures a second. And once the ball has crossed the

goal line, or the plane of the goal, there is a radio signal created and it's sent to the referee's watch.

DAVIES: Whilst the English Premier League have introduced the Hawk- Eye system, FIFA have opted for GoalControl. It's the same system that was trialed successfully at last year's Confederation's Cup here in Brazil.

And the crucial moment will involve these -- every match official will be wearing one of these special watches, which will be told in less than a

second whether or not a goal has been scored. There's no doubt this is a huge step for football's biggest competition, and one that is long overdue.

PUI YEE CHAN, TVB HONG KONG: It's a bit late for World Cup, to be honest. But I sure think that this technology can help the referees in

determining whether there's a goal or not.

ANDREW DAS, NEW YORK TIMES: It's so simple it exists, why don't you use it? So now they're using it.

It'll be a long time before the Salvadoran second division makes the investment in it, but I'm sure Frank Lampard would approve.

DAVIES: But one of the major criticisms of using goal line technology is that it takes the professional game too far away from the games played

in parks and on beaches across the world. If this technology makes the difference between Brazil winning or losing their record sixth World Cup,

though, you suspect the locals won't mind.

Amanda Davies, CNN, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

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LU STOUT: But not everyone is getting swept up in the World Cup excitement. After the break, we look at some of the major hurdles still

facing the world's biggest sporting event just two days from the opening ceremony.

And we bring you the devastating story of one family in Niger torn apart by Boko Haram. That exclusive report is next.

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.

Now the Pakistani Taliban launched another violent attack near Karachi's international airport on Tuesday forcing it to shut down for a

second time. Now militants were targeting the airport security forces academy. No casualties have been reported, but this attack follows that

hours long siege of the same airport on Sunday that left more than 30 people dead.

Now a trial has begun in South Korea for the crew of the Sewell ferry which sank in April. Some 300 people drowned, most of them high school

students. Now there were scuffles as relatives of the victims filled the court. Now the captain and three crew members are charged with murder. If

convicted, they could face the death penalty.

The Iraqi prime minister has called on parliament to declare a state of emergency. The Parliamentary speaker says terrorist groups are taking

control of the northern province of Nineveh. Now earlier, senior police officials reported gunmen freed up to 1,000 inmates from the central prison

in Mosul.

Now one person was killed and two others injured when a support beam fell at a monorail construction site in Sao Paulo on Monday. Now the city

is gearing up to host the World Cup. And according to reports, the monorail was among several projects that were due to be completed by the

opening ceremony this Thursday, but have run behind schedule.

Now also in Sao Paulo, metro workers have suspended a five day strike. The standstill caused chaos for commuters in the city. It even caused our

own Shasta Darlington to arrive late to work on Monday.

Now let's get the very latest now from Shasta. She joins us now live from Sao Paul. And Shasta, the transport chaos there, is it over for now?

What does it look like out there?

SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDNET: Kristie, today was a beautiful morning. Obviously how long it takes me to get to work

isn't the news here, but I have to say, yes, I did get in very quickly.

The problem is, of course, we're not out of the woods. This is a one day pause if you will so that the unions can sort of send a goodwill

gesture to the government saying we want to find a negotiated solution. The problem is, if they don't they're back on strike for game day on

Thursday, which was when all of those fans will be trying to get to the opening game at the Sao Paulo arena.

And it's pretty simple, they've been asking for higher salaries. The government has offered them something lower. In the meantime, the strike

was declared illegal and 60 workers were laid off, they were fired.

So now the union is saying, and we want those workers reinstated.

So, again, it's a real tossup whether or not they'll reach an agreement or whether we're going to wake up on Thursday morning and

discover that a good half of those 61,000 fans don't have the metro to use that they've been relying on Kristie.

LU STOUT: So a wait and see in terms of the metro strike there in Sao Paulo.

Now what about the security response to all the public anger? I mean, how have the police there in Sao Paulo been handling all the striking

workers and the protesters?

DARLINGTON: Well, Kristie, as the world has seen, the police can often use sort of heavy-handed tactics to deal with protesters. They've

had to deal with a lot of them. And in some cases the protesters themselves can be violent. So there was teargas thrown, some other sort of

shot grenades as they're called here, not the kind of images you really want broadcast around the world on the eve of the World Cup.

And, you know, one of the things that security experts have long pointed out to me is what are these policemen going to do when they're

faced with rowdy and sometimes drunk football fans? How are they going to react? And I think it's a legitimate question when we see these kinds of

images.

Having said that, they will have a lot more boots on the ground, if you will, 157,000 police and troops to sort of contain the protests and any

violent crime during the World Cup. So the idea is with faced with those huge numbers we won't have the kinds of clashes that we've seen in the

past, Kristie.

LU STOUT: OK. And finally, what is the mood there ahead of Thursday's opening match? I mean, is there a lot of concern and still a

lot anger about overall readiness and the cost of the World Cup, or is there excitement?

DARLINGTON: Well, Kristie, the excitement is beginning to grow, especially because the other teams are arriving and so people are looking

at their TVs and seeing, oh look, Croatia is here, Mexico is here. And I think that's lifting spirits a bit.

But still the latest polls show that 61 percent of Brazilians thought that hosting the World Cup was a bad idea, because it took money away from

other sorely needed infrastructure projects -- schools and hospitals.

And on the other hand, you've had prominent football players like Ronaldo coming out and saying they're embarrassed by the delays.

So it's a lot of mixed feelings and definitely still not that really enthusiastic atmosphere that a lot of people would expect to find in

Brazil, Kristie.

LU STOUT: All right, thank you so much for giving us a sense of what it's like on the ground there just days away from the World Cup.

Shasta Darlington reporting, thank you.

Now CNN is your home for all things World Cup. On our website, they get a look at the 32 nations competing in the big event as well as some of

their most devoted fans who travel long distances just to see their teams. It's all at CNN.com/WorldCup.

Now let's turn to Nigeria and suspected Boko Haram militants have kidnapped at least 20 more young women in the northeast. Now the men were

heavily armed and they wore military uniforms.

Officials say it happened in broad daylight Saturday in Borno state, that's not far from the town where Boko Haram kidnapped hundreds of

schoolgirls now two months ago.

Now they were dragged from their beds at a school in the village of Chibok. And more than 200 of those girls are still missing.

Now Boko Haram has carried out a number of attacks in Nigeria, all in the name of spreading its version of Islamic law.

On Monday, Arwa Damon took us to an area of interest in the search for those missing schoolgirls. And now in the second of three exclusive

reports, she brings us the heartbreaking story of two girls orphaned after Boko Haram militants killed their father.

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ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: She breaks down at the slightest memory of what she has been through.

She's OK staying here, she just doesn't want to be the one who is talking about the story of what happened to them.

14-year-old Bintu (ph) and her 12-year-old sister Mau (ph) grew up as daddy's girls after they lost their mother to natural causes. Then he was

killed in a Boko Haram attack.

The family fled from Maiduguri, the birthplace of Boko Haram in Nigeria. It took them about a day to get here to Diffa in Niger. But

still, fear followed them across the border.

To such a degree that even here they don't want their identities disclosed.

She can't understand how this could have happened Mohammed Watanaki (ph) with the international rescue committee explains. She's a victim,

going through a psychological trauma. She needs protection.

Now they live on this small lot with their aunt Isha (ph) and her own seven children who escape Nigeria with them.

Isha (ph) describe the chaos and the fear, how the attacks by the terrorist group were happening on a regular basis.

Mau (ph) remembers locking the doors and cowering inside. Then came the attack on the market that robbed them of their father.

These two photographs that they took with him is the only thing that they took are photographs of their mother and father that they always kept

with them.

They remember how he used to work hard to clothe them, make sure they had an education. Both want to be teachers.

Now, they're left to navigate life alone.

Mohammed (ph) is saying that when it comes to, you know, protecting cases like this it's not just about the psychological issues that they're

going through, but a girl, a young girl at that age needs to be protected from exploitation as well. She's completely vulnerable.

Their childhood stolen by Boko Haram. Both girls are desperate to find their future.

They say they want to return home to Nigeria to continue their education for themselves and in memory of their parents.

Arwa Damon, CNN, Diffa, Niger.

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LU STOUT: And don't miss more of Arwa Damon's exclusive reporting from Niger. In her next report, Arwa looks at how fear of Boko Haram is

leading to an influx of refugees in the region.

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DAMON: Mohammed (ph) fled with 15 of his family members. The river was obviously a lot higher back then, so they came across in boats. But

when the attack happened, the entire village cleared out, some of the people making the journey overnight, others hiding in the bush waiting for

daybreak.

This year alone, the World Food Program says Boko Haram's terror campaign has sent at least 25,000 Nigerians fleeing into Niger's remote

Diffa region. Around 80 percent of them women and children.

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LU STOUT: And you can watch that full report tomorrow only here on CNN.

We'll be right back.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now our latest Leading Woman walked her way to the top of the fashion industry in her trademark flats. And now American designer Tory Burch is

determined to share the wealth of her billionaire dollar business.

Now Nina Dos Santos spoke with Burch about how she's already using her influence and her pocketbook to empower women.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: These days American fashion entrepreneur Tory Burch is at the top of her game. The fashion

label has made her a billionaire and she set up a foundation to help other women succeed by giving them business loans.

TORY BURCH, FASHION DESIGNER: With our foundation it's not a charity, it is about empowering women to help themselves. And that's something that

I find very inspiring. I meet these women entrepreneurs and they are often single mothers. They're raising children, managing two jobs and then

starting a company at the same time. It's a lot on their plate.

DOS SANTOS: You famously said in a speech at Stanford University I believe it was that women should be just as ambitious as men and also to be

proud of it. Is there a stigma attached towards being ambitious for a woman?

BURCH: Well, I think there is and there always has been.

I grew up with three brothers with parents that supported all of us equally. And I never knew that there would be challenges for girls that

men didn't have. And when I started to work, I did see challenges and I saw a difference.

DOS SANTOS: Not anymore. She's now a mainstay in business. Her best known design, the roughly $200 ballet flats called Reeva, named after her

mother.

Who do you think influenced you the most to become who you are today? Did you have a mentor in particular?

BURCH: I mean, I've had so many fathers of my success. That said, my parents and family have been really instrumental in helping me get through

my challenges that I've been through, but also just keeping my head down and just looking -- never sitting back and saying, oh, look how successful

we are. That's not ever part of the conversation.

DOS SANTOS: Burch was born in Pennsylvania. After college, she headed to New York.

BURCH: That was the beginning of my career in fashion. And I really fell in love with fashion.

DOS SANTOS: Today, her advice for new entrepreneurs, buckle up, plan for the hard work and embrace it. But along with her success, she's also

faced some setbacks.

You had a famous protracted and it sounds like a very painful divorce, partly because your ex-husband was also co-founder of this company as well.

That eventually settled itself a couple of years ago, but just run me through how that affected you personally, your business and your vision.

BURCH: I had to be strong for my children and also for the company. And I looked at it as a challenge. And when challenges come my way I get

more focused and my goal was to get through it and to settle as quickly as possible. And that's what we did. And we get along now and we have six

beautiful children that we love and we've moved beyond that. And I'm happy to say we put that long in the past.

DOS SANTOS: So what's next for this company?

BURCH: You know, on so many levels I think we're just beginning. We've had tremendous growth. And clearly we're a bit company for being

around since 2004. And we have barely touched Asia and Europe. And as we look at different parts of the world, and even North America, we see a lot

of growth. That said, we want it to be organic. So it's about finding -- being patient, but also looking at opportunities.

DOS SANTOS: Any regrets?

BURCH: No, none. I have no regrets. Many challenges, yes, but no regrets.

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LU STOUT: Tory Burch there.

Now a new ranking suggests that there are some places where female entrepreneurs are predisposed to thrive based purely on their geography.

Now you're looking right here at the top six countries on this index. Now the U.S. and Australia are at the very top of the list while Pakistan and

Bangladesh are among the worst places to be a woman starting a venture.

Now this global study looked at 30 countries across developed and emerging economies. And it was sponsored by the U.S. tech company Dell.

Now read more about this new study on CNN Money's website. You can also find out more about fashion designer Tory Burch and other women at the

top of their fields on our website. That's at CNN.com/leadingwomen.

Now Hillary Clinton's new memoir "Hard Choices" it arrives in stores in the U.S. today. So is this a warmup for another run for the White

House? We'll take you live to Washington next.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back. You're watching News Stream.

Now the former U.S. first lady and secretary of state Hillary Clinton is opening up about her life in the political spotlight. Now her memoir is

called "Hard Choices" it hits store shelves across the United States today.

And senior political correspondent Brianna Keilar reports it is once again raising the question will she run for president in 2016?

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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDNET (voice-over): Hillary Clinton in an interview with ABC News found herself position in the awkward position of

defending her wealth.

CLINTON: We came out of the White House dead broke, but in debt. We had no money when we got there and we struggled to, you know, piece

together the resources for mortgages for houses, for Chelsea's education.

KEILAR: Houses, plural. Clinton's opponents jumped on that. "Shamelessly out of touch," the RNC declared. America Rising, the leading

anti-Hillary super PAC, tweeted pictures of the Clinton's two multimillion dollar homes and their Hampton's vacation rental.

That mistake aside, Clinton's first big interview as her new memoir "Hard Choices" goes on sale showed a more personal side, even as she spoke

about Monica Lewinsky who resurfaced last month writing an essay for "Vanity Fair."

DIANE SAWYER, ABC NEWS: Is there anything you would say to her, about her life?

CLINTON: Well, I would wish her well. I hope she is able to, you know, think about her future and construct a life that she finds meaning and

satisfaction in.

KEILAR: She talked about moving beyond the toughest time in her life.

SAWYER: Somebody said forgiveness is releasing a prisoner and discovering the prisoner was yourself.

CLINTON: I am 100 percent in the camp that says forgiveness is mostly about the forgiver. I know too many people having now lived as long as I

have who can never get over it.

KEILAR: The softer side of Hillary Clinton. One we haven't seen since the 2008 campaign.

CLINTON: This is very personal for me. It's not just political. It's not just public.

KEILAR: That appeal, though convincing, came too late. Not this time.

CLINTON: When you're in the spotlight as a woman, you know you're being judged constantly. I mean, it is just never ending. And you get a

little, you know, worried about, OK -- well, you know, people over on this side are loving what I'm wearing looking like and saying. And people on

this side aren't.

You know, your natural tendency is how do you bring people together so that you can better communicate? I'm done with that. I mean, I'm just done.

KEILAR: Brianna Keilar, CNN, Washington.

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LU STOUT: Now Hillary Clinton has said that she hasn't decided whether she'll run again for the White House and that is certainly not

putting an end to all the speculation.

Now CNN political editor Paul Steinhauser joins us now live from Washington. And Paul, first, let's talk about what was revealed in this

new book. In terms of foreign policy matters, what does Hillary say?

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: It's a very safe book when it comes to her tenure and her four years as America's top diplomat. She

really defends her record at the State Department as U.S. Secretary of State saying that she helped restore American leadership around the world

and she gives examples from how the U.S. acted and dealt with the Arab Spring all the way to fighting poverty around the world.

When it comes to Benghazi, and of course this is the incident from September 11, 2012 where those four Americans were killed in Libya at the

attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, she defends what she did there. She pushes back against Republicans who have been attacking her over that

incident. And she says she will not be part of any political witch hunt.

And Kristie, the most interesting thing to me when it comes to foreign policy is how she might be putting a little daylight between herself and

President Obama on some key issues. She defends the president, of course, and what he's done when it comes to foreign policy, but when it came to the

negotiations to release Bowe Bergdahl, the U.S. prisoner of war in Afghanistan for that swap with the Taliban, and when it comes to arming the

rebels in Syria Hillary Clinton in her book definitely says that she disagreed to a degree with President Obama.

I find that very interesting, especially if she runs in 2016, she tries to put a little daylight between herself and President Obama.

LU STOUT: Yeah, do you think by creating that distance between herself and President Obama and anything else in this book, does it suggest

that Hillary Clinton will, indeed, make it another go for president in 2016?

STEINHAUSER: You know, you look at the book and you look at this big book tour and all the interviews she's doing, as Brianna Keilar just

reported, and it really does seem in a way like this is a little appetizer maybe for things to come, a little dry run for a presidential campaign.

She, though, in the book -- and she waits to almost 600 pages into the book to say, "will I run for president in 2016? The answer is, I haven't

decided yet." That's what she writes in the book.

From these interviews she's been doing she says, listen, no decision this year. I'll be thinking about it very seriously, maybe next year.

But again, the book really does seem in a way like a little precursor to things to come. And maybe by putting that daylight between her and the

president it gives her a little leeway, a little wiggle room if she decides to run for president.

LU STOUT: Now in the event of another run for the White House, let's talk about her approval ratings, because I know you're across that. I

mean, just how popular is Hillary Clinton there in the United States? And what are the biggest obstacles in her way?

STEINHAUSER: Well, a brand new poll from ABC News and Washington Post that came out a few days, six in 10 gave her a thumbs up on her performance

as Secretary of State.

And look at this number, really this one, is she a strong leader? Two-thirds of Americans say, yes, she is a strong leader. And those are

very good numbers to have if you want to run for president.

But let's also say there is a big partisan divide here. Democrats and independents to a lesser degree are happy with her and like her,

Republicans not very much.

If she runs for president, listen, every poll we've seen, Kristie, indicates she would be the overwhelming favorite to win the Democratic

presidential nomination.

And in these hypothetical showdowns with Republicans in 2016 in a general election, she has the lead right now.

But this polling is very, very early. And we have a long way to go until the presidential election, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, a long way to go, but still a lot of buzz for the book and 2016. Paul Steinhauser, as always, thank you.

Now time now for your global weather forecast. And a focus on Europe. It's being hit by some severe storms. Let's get the latest with Mari

Ramos. She joins us from the world weather center -- Mari.

MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kristie, depending on where you look across the central and western part of the continent, this

is already day four of this severe weather. I think the worst of it may have already passed in terms of the more widespread, most severe storms.

And let me give you some examples of what we saw in just in the last 24 hours.

Look at Antwerp in Belgium. They had hail measured 4 centimeters, that's pretty significant.

Similar situation as we head over into western parts of Germany here in Blankanheim, 4 centimeters. And in Dusseldorf, the winds howling at 144

kilometers per hour, that's over hurricane force. And it did cause some serious damage, including at least one death.

Trees came down across many areas, as you can see here, a lot of damage from these storms. Overall, across Germany, the weather service

there is reporting six people lost their lives in these violent storms that ripped across the region here.

So almost anywhere you look, images like this are popping up across the area with that lightning just across the sky, the very strong winds,

the downed trees, the downed power lines, even some very heavy rain and flooding.

This picture is from France, similar situation there. We had some very strong storms moving from west to east across France, including near

Paris. And this one from Cognac in France. You can see some of the damage left to some of the crops. These are vineyards damaged by hail that moved

across that area just in the last day or so.

When we look at the radar from the last 12 hours, this is those very strong storms that were coming across The Netherlands and Belgium just in

the last 12 hours or so. A lot of people of course being caught off guard by these storm systems. You can see them continuing to move northward.

And just in the last few hours, we start to see new storms pop up now that the heating of the day is really getting going across northern parts of

France.

This is pretty significant. A lot of heavy rain, hail, and here we go again with the strong storms and very dangerous lightning that will be

moving across this region. And do expect the travel delays to be significant in the areas where you have these strong storms.

Where are these possible? Well, that area right in here is the most likely that you see highlighted in red, to see the heavy rain and the

severe winds and the hail and the lightning that we've been talking about.

But there's a widespread area that extends all the way from Spain all the way up through Denmark and back over toward Romania here where there is

a big possibility of seeing some strong thunderstorms popping up as, like I said, as the heating of the day gets going.

And it is quite warm. Look at Milan right now at 31. Budapest sizzling at 34. A lot of moisture in the air. So we really have a big

chance here to see some strong thunderstorms continuing to develop later today.

And these can be very dangerous and they can and have been deadly over the last few days. So be extra careful.

In the meantime, though, where it doesn't rain temperatures expect them to remain easily some 10 degrees above the average for this time of

year.

I know some of you getting caught in a rain storm earlier today in Beijing. Only about 12 millimeters of rain fell, one of those popup

thunderstorms, you're in the right place at the right time, or the wrong place at the wrong time depending on how you look at it.

We are again looking at the better possibility of rain, or the worst, across the southern parts of China and northern parts of Vietnam. Again,

Kristie, these are the same areas that have gotten inundated over the last few days and weeks with the very heavy rainfall.

Back to you.

LU STOUT: All right, more rain ahead. Thank you for the warning.

Mari Ramos there.

And that is News Stream, but the news continues at CNN. World Business Today is next.

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