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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.
Now ISIS militants attack a major oil refinery north of Baghdad as Iraq's president warns neighboring countries the terrorists won't stop at
Iraq's borders.
Plus, Japan's lawmakers make possession of child pornography a crime, but some say the new law does not go far enough.
And Brazil hits a way in the form of Mexico's goalie. We'll have all your World Cup highlights.
Iraqi prime minister Nuri al-Maliki is appealing directly to tribes telling them to renounce the, quote, "killers and criminals who represent
foreign agendas."
Now the situation on the ground is growing more desperate by the hour. Sunni extremist fighters have attacked the country's largest oil refinery
in Baiji, but an Iraqi military spokesman says the army has overcome the attack by militants.
And just a 45 minute drive from the capital, Islamist fighters are battling for control of Baquba.
Now officials say ISIS has made what they call a great advance there. If the city falls, the implications for the Iraqi capital Baghdad are dire.
A lot to talk about here, so let's get right to Baghdad. Our senior international correspondent Nic Robertson is there. He joins us now.
Nic, a very fluid situation right now in Baiji, Iraq's main oil refinery. What can you tell us?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Iraqi army spokesman said that the government forces have repulsed ISIS and tribal
fighters there at the Baiji oil refinery. They killed 20 ISIS members.
We've also heard from the Iraqi prime minister Nuri al-Maliki and in his weekly address. He said that we have now absorbed the first shock of
this initial attack that we are now on the rebound and that we will win.
He also said that it's a falsification to say that the tribes are involved with ISIS. He said the tribes would never kill 400 security
service personnel the way that -- the way that ISIS has shown that it's killed them through these horrible execution videos that they've released.
This is perhaps the first indication that Nuri al-Maliki is trying to sort of separate out and divide off the Sunni tribal support that exists in
this current push and advance on the capital Baghdad. Until now, he's -- he really hasn't appeared to reach out in any way to Sunni politicians
across the sectarian divide. But clearly here he is saying that the tribes wouldn't engage in this type of violence, so it's wrong to say that they're
supporting ISIS at the moment and potentially this can be used in the future to drive a wedge between those tribes who have told us that they are
supporting ISIS.
But this is a very complicated situation. It's a very fluid situation. But the prime minister again making very clear that he believes
the Iraqi security forces can take on these ISIS militants and can defeat them, Kristie.
LU STOUT: You know, that was a very significant address made by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, making this call for national unity on TV. He was
appearing with Sunni and Kurdish leaders. What effect will that appeal have on the crisis?
ROBERTSON: It should help calm it down. It should help send a message that he is a prime minister who is willing to make compromises.
But given the level of anger and bitterness and division that there is at the moment, and also -- I mean, this has come about because of a lack of
faith and a lack of trust in him. There's a real sense that he isn't really the man, the politician who can actually bridge the divides, because
he's burned so much trust in the past. So there will be people who look at this message with, you know, Kurdish and Sunni politicians by the side of
him -- that will say that this is just window dressing, that they need something more substantial, that they can't even deal with Nuri al-Maliki.
Yet, for his community, really, he is the leader at the moment. The country is in crisis. And he is very much getting in charge in a detailed
way at the military part of the offensive. You find various of his staff dressed in military uniforms. He's very much involved in detail of the
military planning, if you will, at the moment. So, he's very much the leader of the moment.
So again those political divisions and his speaking about national unity, that's what everyone's been calling for, can he actually deliver on
it.
But this is in many ways a positive step, Kristie.
LU STOUT: All right, Nic Robertson reporting live from Baghdad, thank you.
Now the British Prime Minister David Cameron has just this hour warned that foreign Sunni Islamists fighting in Iraq could try to return to
Britain and launch attacks there.
Now despite that threat, Mr. Cameron says that they have ruled out any UK military intervention in Iraq. But he says his government will be
taking action.
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DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I also disagree with those people who think this is nothing to do with us and if they want to have
some sort of extreme Islamist regime in the middle of Iraq that won't affect us, it will. The people in that regime, as well as trying to take
territory, are also planning to attack us here at home in the United Kingdom.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: Now news agencies report a candidate in Afghanistan's presidential election is urging officials to call off the vote count. Now
Abdullah Abdullah says evidence collected by his team indicates widespread fraud. He says he has cut ties with the country's electoral bodies,
because of voting irregularities.
International observers have been watching Afghanistan's election very closely. It will be the first democratic handover of power in the
country's history.
Now the accused mastermind of the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi is being taken by ship to the U.S. to face charges. Ahmed Abu
Khattala was captured by commandos over the weekend. Now U.S. officials say he's traveling by sea rather than by air, to give investigators maximum
time to question him.
Now remember, the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi was overrun by armed militants and set on fire on September 11 2012. Four Americans,
including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, were killed raising questions about security measures at the compound. And Benghazi has become a political
flashpoint for the U.S. President and then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Now she told CNN now that Ahmed Abu Khattala is in custody, it should be possible to get some answers.
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HILLARY CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We want to know who was behind it, what the motivation of the leaders and the attackers
happened to be. There are still some unanswered questions. It was, afterall, the fog the war. But I'm absolutely convinced that the United
States and all of our various agencies with all of our professionals, including the congress, is, you know, piecing together the best information
we can find.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CLINTON: Now Libya is yet to comment on the seizure, but the justice minister is expected to speak soon.
Now CNN's Barbara Starr has more on the suspect and his capture over the weekend.
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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Ahmed Abu Khattala was lured to a location south of Benghazi, U.S. officials from
multiple agencies tell CNN. Army Delta Force commandos, FBI and intelligence agencies were watching and waiting for days.
Khattala, a key operative in Ansar al-Sharia, the group the U.S. blames for the 2012 attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi. Intelligence
gleaned from local Libyans helped draw Khattala to the location. U.S. commandos captured him with no shots fired, no one getting hurt. A
surprising feat, one former Libyan intelligence official tells CNN, because Khattala usual surrounded himself with guards.
U.S. commandos whisked him to a Navy ship in the Mediterranean to begin undergoing questioning for his role in the attack and anything else
he knows about terrorist activity. Officially the Pentagon will say little.
REAR ADM. JOHN KIRBY, PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY: I'm not going to get into specifics on the actual execution of the operation.
STARR: President Obama touted the capture.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's important for us to send a message to the world that when Americans are attacked, no matter how
long it takes, we will find those responsible and we will bring them to justice.
STARR: But some wonder why it took so long, when journalists like CNN's Arwa Damon were able to find and talk to Khattala more than a year
ago.
ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We met with Ahmed Abu Khattala in public at the coffee shop of a well-known hotel here in
Benghazi for around two hours. He seemed to be confident, his demeanor most certainly not that of a man who believed that he was going to be detained
or targeted any time soon.
STARR: So how could CNN get to Khattala and it took U.S. commandos over a year to find him?
LT. COL. RICK FRANCONA, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: And in order to do this safely, effectively, efficiently, and nobody got hurt, by the way, that
takes time to plan, that takes a lot of information gathering and we did this in a very stealthy way.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
LU STOUT: And that was Barbara Starr reporting.
Now U.S. officials tell CNN that the hope is that the questioning of Ahmed Abu Khattala will lead them to other suspects in the Benghazi attack.
Now turning now to Nigeria, and the hospital source tells CNN at least 21 people were killed, 27 wounded in an explosion at a soccer viewing
center. It happened just outside the town of Damatalu. Now the victims were young men and boys watching the Brazil-Mexico World Cup match.
And on Sunday, a similar attack in Kenya. Witnesses in a coastal town say armed men stormed a World Cup viewing party, shooting and hacking
people to death before moving into a residential area.
You're watching News Stream. And still ahead, Japan's parliament moves to ban the possession of child pornography, but sexually explicit
cartoons, or anime, remain exempt.
Israeli security forces tightened their grip on the West Bank as the hunt for three missing teenagers goes on.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The six yard box as the cross goes in. Oh, it's another wonderful save.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: Wonderful play indeed. Mexico's goalkeeper wins man of the match for holding Brazil to a goalless draw at the World Cup.
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LU STOUT: Now Japan's parliament today passed a law that makes owning sexually explicit images of children illegal. Now violators face up to a
year in jail, or fines reaching $10,000. And child welfare advocates welcomed the move as a big step in the right direction, but many say the
penalties are not tough enough.
Campaigners also point out that sexually graphic cartoon depictions of children are still legal. Now a spokesman for UNICEF told CNN that he
believes should be criminalized as well.
Now CNN's Will Ripley headed to some stores in Tokyo to investigate the prevalence of these disturbing images in Japanese Manga and Anime
cartoon.
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WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: On the streets of Tokyo, sex sells. And nothing sells better than the fantasy of innocent young girls.
We found something far less innocent in a place that caters to young people, a comic book store.
UNIDNETIFIED MALE: That's blood right there.
RIPLEY: We're shooting this story with hidden cameras to show you what's being sold here -- magazines and videos so graphic, so sexually
explicit, we turned our undercover cameras off.
But everything for sale here is legal, because these graphic images are on comic strips.
A lot of the things that we just saw in that store were really disturbing. These were cartoons, but really they were pornographic
illustrations of young girls engaged oftentimes in violent sex with older men.
A new bill in Japan outlaws the possession of child pornography, like most other industrialized countries. But graphic cartoons, even ones
showing kids being raped, will stay legal. Why? Because anime animation and manga comics are a multibillion dollar industry with political and
lobbying power.
Are you concerned that this animated child porn could lead to criminal behavior?
"Absolutely," says legislator Matsatada Suchia (ph). He points to the arrest of this murder suspect, accused of stabbing a 7-year-old girl more
than 10 times.
Police seized large amounts of child porn from his home, but won't say if it was real of animated.
Suchia (ph) wants to outlaw anything portraying sexual violence against kids.
"I believe this kind of terrible material is not protected under freedom of expression," he says. "It should be banned."
One of Japan's most famous cartoonists disagrees.
Ken Akamatsu (ph) lobbies lawmakers on behalf of the Japan Cartoonists Association. He says censoring content violates freedom of expression.
"Actual children suffering and crying is not acceptable," he says. "But manga doesn't involve actual children, so there are no actual
victims."
He points out even some of his own art features teenage girls in sexual situations.
But these are not children and they're not being raped. There's a big difference.
"There is an argument that manga like that will induce child sexual abuse," he says. "But there's no scientific evidence."
"If it's scientifically proven," he says, "we're totally ready to cooperate."
SHIHOKO FUJIWARA, LIGHTHOUSE: The victims are getting young and young.
RIPLEY: Shihoko Fujiwara runs Lighthouse, a nonprofit for exploited children.
FUJIWARA: As young as one or 2-years-old they're being victimized.
RIPLEY: She says she worked on a case where a predator used a cartoon to convince a child sex abuse is normal.
FUJIWARA: So the pedophiles might bring the animation and, hey, this is how you practice with the dolls.
RIPLEY: Despite those concerns, cartoons featuring sexual violence against kids will still be for sale on the streets on Japan, even as some
fear those cartoons maybe fueling the darkest desires of criminals.
Will Ripley, CNN, Tokyo.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
LU STOUT: Some critics say extending the law to include anime or manga drawings could limit creative expression and damage a major industry
in Japan.
Now Roland Kelts is an author on Japanese pop culture and a lecturer as well. He joins us now live from Tokyo.
And Roland, thank you for joining us.
I know where you stand on the issue, but before we get to that, and without getting too graphic, what kind of scenes are depicted in child porn
anime and manga. What have you (inaudible).
ROLAND KELTS, AUTHOR: Well, I suppose among the most taboo are scenes of incest, brothers and sisters and so on in bath tubs and, you know,
playing around in backyards and so on. Sometimes the action gets quite violent. And some of it I find extremely offensive personally.
LU STOUT: Now, you find it offensive. Your thoughts on this child porn ban. It does not include anime or manga. Should it?
KELTS: No, I don't think it should. And I think it's about time that Japan criminalized live action pornography, child pornography. It's been a
long time coming.
But I think the government very shrewdly separated that from works of the imagination. I'm a libertarian when it comes to creativity. I believe
that when you start outlawing the imagination you wander into very, very dangerous territory. And we've seen it happen historically, but when you
try to become the thought police and tell people what they can draw, what they can write, what they can dream, you go down a very slippery slope.
I think one of the points that should be made is that the manga and anime industry have proposed certain self-monitoring policies. They
proposed making this material discrete, less openly available on newsstands or in shops in Japan. They are looking at ways to control access to
material that some deem offensive.
But again I don't think the government should be telling us what we can draw.
LU STOUT: So the industry there in Japan is looking at ways of limiting the availability of child porn manga or anime.
Now, there are many people out there who do not see the difference, though, in what you call live action child porn and some very carefully
rendered anime child porn. I mean, how would you argue your position to them?
KELTS: Well, the difference to me is quite clear, actually. In one case, you are trying to protect children from being exploited.
If you have a live action child pornography video, or footage or photo, obviously a child, a human being has been exploited in order to make
that product, whether or not their parents sold them into it, or some other crime syndicate got them involved, a child was exploited.
When you have a single individual's work of art, or creativity, or whatever you want to call it, an illustration, it has not exploited a
single child. I mean, we're aware of that in film today. We're more enlightened and we claim that we don't -- you know, no animals were injured
in the filming of this Hollywood movie.
Similarly, no child is exploited when an artist sits down to draw a picture.
LU STOUT: This is a very, very important debate, especially there in Japan. Roland, thank you so much for joining us and sharing your thoughts
with us. Roland Kelts, author and lecturer joining us live from Tokyo.
Thank you and take care.
And while it is an important step forward for Japan, the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children says that 52 countries still have
no legislation that specifically addresses child pornography.
And these countries here in green have what the organization calls sufficient legislation, meaning that they meet most of the criteria used in
the study. Now only 11 met all of their criteria.
Mow it has been nearly one week since three Israeli teenagers disappeared. There is still no sign of them, but hundreds of Palestinians
have been detained, part of Israel's extensive search for the missing teens.
Our report from the West Bank is next.
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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.
Now Ukraine's president is calling for unilateral ceasefire to ease the crisis in the eastern part of the country. Now the move comes after
Petro Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed a possible deal in a phone conversation on Tuesday night.
Now President Poroshenko says Ukrainian forces will lay down their arms for a short time, allowing separatists to disarm. Amnesty will be
offered to those who have not committed serious crimes.
Now the plan also calls for the closure of the border with Russia.
Now the Palestinian authority is condemning those responsible for the abduction of three Israeli teenagers accusing them of going to, quote,
"destroy us."
Now Israel has accused Hamas of abducting the boys. It's something that Hamas denies. But Israel has detained more than 200 Palestinians and
is considering expelling Hamas leaders from the West Bank.
Ben Wedeman reports.
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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: An Israeli army foot patrol is making its way through Wade Abu Khataila (ph) outside the
southern West Bank city of Hebron. For five days now, Israeli forces have conducted an intensive manhunt for the three teenagers who disappeared
Thursday night.
So far, they've turned up nothing they're willing to talk about.
Did you find anything?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
WEDEMAN: What did you find?
This is the scene in a lot of the areas around the city of Hebron. The Israeli troops are going from house to house, questioning people,
searching homes and in some cases, ransacking them.
In some areas, the searches are extensive, the media not welcome.
Here, medics are trying to get to a house the troops have taken over.
OK, so they're trying to get in. They already took away one woman who was seven months pregnant and a little hysterical. Now they're trying to
get in for the fifth time to get a woman out who needs kidney dialysis and hasn't had it in two days.
The soldiers pulled away from the house a few minutes later and the woman was treated in the ambulance.
We tried to follow them as they left. They didn't want to be followed, however.
OK, he's going to shoot.
Inside, we found a house turned upside down. No one here was arrested.
Subhay Kowazmi (ph) says he was kept for three hours blindfolded with his hands bound.
They're looking for those boys. Didn't they question you about them? I ask.
"No question, nothing," he responds.
These searches, warns activist Mustafa Barghouti, are only further raising tensions.
MUSTAFA BARGHOUTI, PALESTINIAN NATIONAL INITIATIVE: What you see here in this place is one example of what's happening everywhere in Hebron,
which are acts of illegal collective punishment against the whole population.
WEDEMAN: Near where the abductions are believed to have happened, Vir (ph), an Israeli settler, is trying to catch a ride home.
But since those three boys were kidnapped, are you more careful?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course. Actually my wife doesn't know that I'm here. And if you -- if she knows, she will come and get me. But I don't
want to bother her.
WEDEMAN: But if she sees you on television, will she be angry with you?
UNIDNETIFIED MALE: A little bit.
WEDEMAN: Just to the south, Israeli police control the entrance to the town of Kharhoul (ph), part of a search that has so far yielded little.
Ben Wedeman, CNN, on the West Bank.
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LU STOUT: You're watching News Stream. And still to come, as ISIS fighters close in on Baghdad, politicians begin to play the blame game
about who is at fault for the turmoil in Iraq.
Plus, we will recap some of the biggest moments so far from the year's World Cup. Stay with us.
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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream and these are your world headlines.
An Iraqi military spokesman says the army has overcome an attack by Sunni militants on the country's oil refinery located in Baiji north of
Baghdad. Now the spokesman says 40 ISIS militants were killed in the action. CNN cannot independently confirm that.
Now the accused mastermind of the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi is being taken by ship to the United States. Ahme Abu Khattala did
not put up a fight when he was captured in eastern Libya. U.S. officials say he's traveling by sea rather than by air to give investigators maximum
time to question him.
Now a search and rescue operation is underway off Malaysia's west coast for more than 30 people believed missing after a boat capsized.
Indonesian authorities tell CNN the vessel was carrying nearly 100 migrant workers and was heading to the province of Aceh when it sank. Local
rescuers managed to save 60 people. Five people are confirmed dead.
Now owning sexually explicit images of children is now illegal in Japan. And those breaking the law face up to a year in jail or a fine of
up to $10,000. Some campaigners say the law is not tough enough as it does not include sexually explicit cartoons.
Now returning now to our top story, the ISIS insurgency in Iraq. Now Saudi Arabia is now warning that the unrest shows signs of becoming a civil
war.
For the latest on that and the repercussions throughout the region, let's go live to Mohammed Jamjoom in Beirut. And Mohammed, as ISIS makes
its advance across Iraq, what is at stake for Saudi Arabia?
REZA SAYAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, there's a lot at stake for Saudi Arabia and that's why we're seeing signs of not just
anger from the Saudis, but also a lot of worry. The Saudis are quite clearly angry with the government of Nuri al-Maliki in Iraq, and that's why
in the last few days you've heard from Saudi officials blaming the sectarian policies of Nuri al-Maliki's government for what's going on in
Iraq right now.
But the Saudis are also extremely worried. You heard these comments earlier today from foreign minister Saud al Faisel in which he said that
they're concerned that what's happening in Iraq could become a civil war.
Iraq shares a border with Saudi Arabia. The last thing Saudi Arabia wants to see is a full blown civil war erupt in Iraq. They don't want it
to threaten the stability of the region. They certainly don't want it to threaten the stability of Saudi Arabia, which is the largest oil exporter
in the world.
More than that, they're very worried about the strength of ISIS. ISIS scares Saudi Arabia to its core. This is why we've seen in the last few
months the Saudis publicly declare and officially declare that ISIS is a terrorist organization. This is why they have been conducting terror raids
throughout Saudi Arabia trying to arrest anybody they perceive as sympathizing with ISIS. And they're concerned that ISIS will be able to
launch attacks against Saudi Arabia not just from within Syria, but also from within Iraq.
So a lot of concern in Saudi Arabia really has a lot at stake right now in what's going on in Iraq -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yeah, a lot of concern, a lot of fear there about the risk of civil war in Iraq, also about the rise of ISIS.
And what about the ISIS recruitment drive? Is ISIS looking for new recruits inside Saudi Arabia?
SAYAH: The Saudi officials that I've been speaking with, Kristie, tell me that ISIS has been trying to recruit jihadis from within Saudi
Arabia, that's another reason why the Saudi officials are so concerned.
In fact, two officials that I spoke with yesterday said that ISIS had actually produced leaflets and pamphlets and had put them in different
areas in and around Riyadh, a few neighborhoods in the last month. And that really got the Saudis concerned about ISIS's tactics.
It's not just these drives on the ground in Saudi Arabia, there's also a huge recruitment drive going on throughout various social media sites.
The Saudis are very concerned about the fact that ISIS is actively trying to recruit Saudis via social media sites like Twitter. Twitter very
popular in Saudi Arabia, you know, and there's deep penetration of Twitter from amongst the Saudi population. So that's a real reason for concern.
And Saudi officials are saying that they believe that Saudi security forces are well within their ability to control what's going on, that they
are ready for any kind of attempted attack, but they are continuing to try to conduct terror sweeps across the country. Last month we heard that 62
people over the course of the past few months have been arrested in Saudi Arabia, some of them alleged to have ties to ISIS, some of them alleged to
have ties to AQAP, which is al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula based in Yemen.
But we've also heard that there are still 44 people in Saudi Arabia that are on the run, suspected militants. And the Saudis very much still
going after them trying to arrest them, and very concerned that ISIS is going to continue this recruitment drive that they've attempted within
Saudi Arabia -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yeah, incredible. ISIS using Twitter in its recruitment drive and targeting Saudi Arabia here.
Mohammed Jamjoom on the story for us, thank you Mohammed.
Now some argue that the resurgence of the Sunni militants had a lot to do with the American drawdown of troops back in 2011.
Just take a look at this chart. Now these figures from Jane's Terrorism and Insurgency Center maybe under counted, but they show this
clear trend that since the U.S. withdrawal, the number of attacks attributed to ISIS has risen substantially.
Now this spike in sectarian attacks has politicians pointing fingers. And some are even being accused of trying to revise history of how we got
here in the first place. Over the weekend, Britain's former prime minister Tony Blair said the allied invasion of Iraq was not responsible for the
current situation. He's even come under fire for those comments from the mayor of London.
Now CNN's Anderson Cooper spoke to Mr. Blair earlier.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Mr. Prime Minister, you've come under enormous criticism just in the past day for comments laying blame for the
current crisis here in Iraq on the war on Syria and the west response to it, or failure to respond to it, and also by the failure of the Maliki
government in Iraq to overcome sectarian impulses.
Does the occupation of Iraq, however, by the United States and the United Kingdom under your leadership not also bear some responsibility?
Afterall, al Qaeda wasn't here in Iraq until that occupation.
TONY BLAIR, FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Sure, just so that I'm absolutely clear about this. My purpose is not to lay blame on anybody. My
purpose is to draw attention to the nature of the challenge that we face in this region, and the need to do something about it. Of course, having
removed the Saddam government in 2003, that's got implications of consequences for Iraq today.
But it's also important to realize two very important things, the first is that this group, ISIS, basically rebuilt themselves, rearmed, they
launched their attack on Iraq from Syria. So what our intervention in Iraq shows is how difficult intervention is and none intervention. That's my
first point.
My second point is when you take account of the Arab spring, revolutions that began in 2011 and swept governments from power, what you
see is whatever happened in 2003 we were going to face this major challenge today, and my point is very, very clear therefore, we've got to understand
one, that this challenge is complex. It's long-term. This is a generational struggle and even if we want to, we can't disengage. We have to try and
deal with it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: Tony Blair there speaking to CNN's Anderson Cooper.
Now Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is being urged by the U.S. to make his government more inclusive, but critics say it's a policy he has
long resisted.
Now CNN's Randi Kaye takes a closer look at how al-Maliki's actions may have contributed to the situation that's unfolding in Iraq right now.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: After the fall of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in 2003, Nuri al-Maliki saw an opening. He'd spent 24 years
in exile in Syria in Iran and was finally able to return to Iraq in 2003. Unlike Hussein who was Sunni, Maliki was Shiite Muslim.
In 2006, he was sworn in as prime minister. He spoke to congress that year.
NURI AL-MALIKI, PRIME MINISTER OF IRAQ (through translator): We faced tyranny and oppression under the former regime and we now face a different
kind of (inaudible). We did not bow then and we will not bow now.
KAYE: Back in 2006, the Bush White House supported Maliki, looking to him to alter the balance of power, giving Shiites more control and
weakening the Sunnis.
Maliki had once promised to unify Iraq, even welcomed Sunnis into the government.
Colonel Peter Mansur was General David Petraeus' executive officer.
COL PETER MANSUR, (RET.) EXEC. OFFICER TO U.S. ARMY GENERAL DAVID PETRAEUS: He used all of his power to pursue his political enemies rather
than reaching out and ensuring that he could embrace them and bring them into the tent.
KAYE: Iraq's Sunni insurgency has been gaining momentum since 2006. In fact, General Petraeus' strategy behind the U.S. troop surge in Iraq in
2007 was to give Maliki and the Shiites more time to figure out how to share power with the Sunnis.
Instead, Maliki was accused of reneging on deals he'd made, cutting off funding to the Sunni tribes after they'd helped defeat al Qaeda in
2008, even targeting high ranking Sunnis.
Last year, President Obama praised Maliki after meeting with him at the White House.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We were encouraged by the work that Prime Minister Maliki has done in the past to ensure that all
people inside of Iraq -- Sunni, Shia and Kurd, feel that they have a voice in their government.
KAYE: And just last week, Maliki was still preaching unity.
MALIKI (through translator): We must stand as one united front. Our insistence and will must never waver when it comes to expelling these
criminals.
KAYE: Yet it was Maliki who may have prevented the United States from keeping troops in Iraq after the surge to help build a true democracy.
MANSUR: He made it very difficult for the United States to retain troops in Iraq. But again the Obama administration never really tried.
KAYE: Now, Maliki is under pressure again. With President Obama insisting the United States will only step in if Nuri al-Maliki takes
another shot at a unified state where Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis live in peace.
Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
LU STOUT: Now the Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, he spoke earlier today, emphasizing that Iraq is an inclusive country. In his
televised address appearing alongside Sunni leaders and Kurdish leaders, he called for more national unity in Iraq.
Now you're watching News Stream. And coming up next is day six of the World Cup. It was packed with excitement. (inaudible) many firsts for the
tournament. We'll look at the highlights and have more on today's lineup after this. Stick around.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back. Now all eyes will be on defending Champion Spain has to square off with Chile later today. Now keep in mind, Spain
has never lost to Chile before. Now the two teams have played each other 10 times in the past.
And Australia comes face to face with the Netherlands. The Dutch team scored the most goals in a single match of the World Cup so far. And
Cameroon will go up against Croatia today.
Now every team has now played at least one match at the World Cup. And surprisingly, it was the subs that stole the spotlight in most of the
matches yesterday.
Belgium was off to a rocky start when Algeria scored from the penalty spot. But after halftime, two subs came to the rescue carrying the team to
victory.
Russia and South Korea, they drew 1-all. And again, it was the subs on both sides of that match that scored those goals.
Brazil and Mexico also locked horns yesterday, giving us the second goalless draw of the tournament. And Mexico's goalkeeper, he kept the ball
away from the net many, many times and was named man of the match for his performance there.
Now this World Cup, it's been a tournament of so many firsts. It could also end up being one of the highest scoring tournaments in history.
Amanda Davies has more on that.
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AMANDA DAVIES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: A week in to the 2014 World Cup and we've now seen all 32 teams. And it's been difficult to tear your
eyes away. There has been so much action.
We could be on for the highest scoring World Cup in tournament history.
The teams seem to have adopted the mantra attack is the best form of defense. We've seen 49 goals in just 16 matches. You have to go all the
way back to 1958 to find a World Cup finals with a higher number of goals per match by this point.
This isn't a tournament where going behind has meant defeat either. We've had comebacks galore -- Costa Rica showed their strength to turn
things around against Uruguay, the Ivory Coast fought back against Japan, Switzerland pulled off a last gasp win against Ecuador and we can't forget
that stunning Dutch comeback to thump defending champion Spain.
The stars have lived up to their billing as well. Neymar stepped up just when his country needed him to. Robin Van Persie's swallow dive has
started a whole new social media craze. 2010 Golden Boot winner Thomas Muller staked his claim again, scoring the tournament's first hat trick and
Lionel Messi finally got his second ever World Cup goal eight years after his first.
But, boy, it was worth the wait.
Even the technology has added another dimension to this tournament. The referees vanishing foam has got rid of those endless arguments about
players creeping forward. And at last, goal line technology has made its long awaited appearance as the world's biggest football tournament. Its
first outing left us in doubt, even if the managers didn't quite agree.
And no tournament could be considered a success without the supporters. After all the talk at the expense and the distances involved
in a World Cup here in Brazil, Copa Cabana Beach has been a fantastic festival of fans from around the world.
Yes, there have been protests, admittedly smaller than anticipated, and issues with the communication networks and traffic, but in footballing
terms there's no doubt we're set up for a most memorable World Cup.
Amanda Davies, CNN, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
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LU STOUT: Gorgeous scenes there.
Now cheating in football, that is a contentious topic. But just how widespread is it?
Now joining us now is our regular contributor and New Yorker.com editor Nicholas Thompson. Nick, good to see you. I know that you've
discussed the issue there at New Yorker.com. How much cheating goes on in soccer?
NICHOLAS THOMPSON, NEW YORKER.COM: Well, it's hard to tell. Fans would say that the other team cheats a lot and that their team doesn't
cheat at all. But there has been a little bit of social science research into it. There was one social science researcher who went through and had
two people watch every minute of the last World Cup and determined there were about six instances a game of people cheating.
And he defined cheating not as tugging on shirts or offsides or run of the mill stuff, but flopping, diving, trying to get away with things that
the referee didn't notice.
So about six a game under those definition.
LU STOUT: And there's many different forms of cheating. There's the so-called professional foul, there's also -- as you kind of described it
there, simulation cheating. You have players kind of writhing and wincing in pain and actually they're just faking it all, what is the main form of
cheating on the pitch?
THOMPSON: Well, the way that paper defined it, which I think is very useful, is that there are two kinds of cheating. One is the professional
foul. And that is where you do something that's against the rules, but it's something you kind of have to do. The classic example would be Luis
Suarez in the last World Cup where a player from Ghana at the end of the game is going to head the ball into the net. He used his hands to block
it. Clearly a violation of the rules. He got a red card. He was thrown out. But it also helped his team win. And I think a lot of people thought
that was basically OK. It was what he had to do. A lot of people didn't.
But the second kind is, you know, it's classic cheating. And that's where you fake, you dive to the ground in the penalty area to try to get a
penalty kick, or you use your hands and knock the ball into the goal without the referee seeing.
So those are the two kinds of cheating. And a lot of fans will let you get away with a professional foul, let you get away with doing
something that you sort of have to do. And then everybody gets upset at the flopping and the classic cheating.
LU STOUT: All right, unfortunately we're going to have to leave it at that. Great subject. You can find more online. Nick Thompson of the New
Yorker.com. Thank you very much indeed. Take care.
We've got more from Brazil ahead right here on News Stream, including the art of protest: how street artists are expressing their frustration
over social and economic inequality.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back.
Now for fans everywhere, the World Cup conjures up images of colorful celebrations. But for many in Brazil, the reality of everyday life is
dramatically different.
Now this simple image of a hungry child with nothing to eat except a football, it conveys the anger that many feel about hosting an expensive
World Cup in a country where more than 16 million people are still living in extreme poverty.
Now the man behind the painting is Paulo Ito. And Isa Soares caught up with him while he was working on his next piece in one of Brazil's
slums.
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ISA SOARES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Throughout the streets of Rio de Janeiro, there's a visible and silent current of anger. Here,
pictures enrage and inspire. It's the place where words mean more than just a writing on the wall. Here, art imitates life.
While many of the murals focus on the patriotic support for the national team, like this one which shows the year that Brazil won its fifth
World Cup back in 2002, but many others have sprung out across the country, many of these focusing on political and a social message.
Renowned Brazilian street painter Paulo Ito (ph) has been spraying his protests, highlighting the country's social ills. Today, though, he's
found a new and unexplored canvas in the favela of Horsina (ph) in Rio de Janeiro, one of the poorest slums in Brazil.
So we're seeing man and a gentleman in a suit, a lady in the dress, and then we have people hiding, or being hidden. Who are they?
PAULO ITO, ARTIST: Well, it's the poor population. When you try to hide something to show the foreigners another reality, then the real
situation.
SOARES: Although metaphorical, the message is simple, inequality if rife in Brazil with more than 16 million people in extreme poverty.
The government argues that the money spent in infrastructure and jobs created throughout the country for the World Cup will benefit the Brazilian
population over the long term.
Do you think that's what your government is doing right now with the World Cup?
ITO: Yes, with the sense with the poor who are also taken to live in another place to make construction.
While it's not specifically about the cost of the World Cup, but it's about priorities and what is really important in our country.
SOARES: It's a reality that many Brazilians, like Paulo Ito, find hard to accept, one that's far easier to ignore. All you have to do is get
by and just smile.
Isa Soares, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
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LU STOUT: Now, today in Brazil all eyes on Spain as it square off with Chile. And at the world weather center, all eyes in the skies. Let's
get the World Cup forecast with Mari Ramos -- Mari.
MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kristie.
Yeah, we're going to go ahead and start in Brazil. You know, we had all that severe weather across Brazil last week and not just in the north
where we saw the tremendous flooding that occurred there, but also in the south with the cold front that was coming through there.
A little bit different this time around. We had another cold front coming in, but this one a little bit drier. It did cause some fog and some
light rain across some of the areas to the south, but overall I think it has -- starting to clear out anyway, as it moves along that region.
Now, that's Porto Alegre. That's one of the cities there in the south where the Australia-Netherlands match will be played. Temperature quite
comfortable at 16, I think. Even though a little bit of humidity, about 62 percent, but overall I think this is going to be one of the better venues
temperature wise, anyway, if you're not liking the heat, the temperatures in the 20s and above.
24 for the Spain versus Chile match later in Rio de Janeiro, as you can see there. And the humidity up to 74 percent. So it is going to feel
a little bit sticky, but nothing compared to Manaus. Yes, this is the one we've been talking about for quite awhile because of the hot temperatures,
deep in the Amazonian jungle.
This is farthest venue away from Rio, anyway. 26 the temperature expected, rain -- perhaps even a thunderstorm.
What happens here it is so hot and so humid you get these popup thunderstorms that can happen at pretty much any time of the day, but they
are more common in the late afternoon and evening hours. So definitely something we will be keeping in mind. And of course if it does thunder,
they have to stop the match.
Look at this picture, this is unbelievable to me. See the house there at the bottom. All the destruction that happened. We saw those amazing
images yesterday of those twin tornadoes that moved through Pilger in the U.S. state of Nebraska. And look at this picture of the aftermath, just
utter devastation. Very scary situation.
So these are the tornado reports that we had on Monday. On Tuesday when we had some of those just amazing storms, those are the reports from
Tuesday.
These areas that you see here in green is the areas where we have the threat for Wednesday when it comes to the severe weather. And then on
Thursday, the areas that you see in blue. That gives us four days of severe storms in these areas. So something we'll be monitoring very, very
closely.
Already we're seeing some very strong storms firing up across the Great Lakes. Expect some travel delays possibly in the Chicago area a
little bit later today. And that front will continue -- or that moisture will continue moving across northern -- or northeastern tier, I should say,
of the U.S. -- Kristie, back to you.
LU STOUT: All right, Mari Ramos there. And thank you for the travel advisory.
That is News Stream. The news continues, of course, at CNN. World Business Today is next.
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