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White House Fence Jumper Had 800 Rounds of Ammo; Official: FBI Tracking Americans Back From Syria; Interview with Rep. Mike Turner; Police Continue Search for Missing UVA Student; Learning More About Janay Rice; Forecast: 50,000 Ebola Cases by Mid-October
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ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next, breaking news, the man who jumped the White House fence had more than 800 rounds of ammo in his car. How did he get through the front door of the White House?
And more breaking news, a new message from ISIS tonight calling for lone wolves to kill civilians in America. As officials warned that Americans fighting militants overseas are now back on U.S. soil.
Plus, the FBI joining the hunt for missing UVA student. How did police let the person last seen with Hannah Graham get away? Let's go OUTFRONT.
Good evening. I'm Erin Burnett. OUTFRONT tonight, breaking news on two national security stories we are following for you tonight. First new details about the White House intruder who jumped the fence and got through the front door of the White House as you can see.
There running right around the column up there to the door and got in. Prosecutors say Omar Gonzalez had 800 rounds of ammo, two hatchets and a machete in his car, which was parked just a few blocks away.
We are also learning Gonzales was arrested last July on a weapons charge. This as politicians on both sides of the aisles are calling for an investigation of the Secret Service. Despite that the president had words of support for them.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm grateful for the sacrifices they make on my behalf and my family's behalf.
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BURNETT: And our other top national security story tonight, American fighter jets and drones attacked targets in Iraq with four new airstrikes as ISIS calls on lone wolves to kill civilians and coalition countries on their own soil.
Administration officials warning that a number of Americans who have gone overseas to fight with terrorist groups are now at this hour back in the United States on American soil. We are covering both breaking news stories with our senior White House correspondent, Jim Acosta and our chief national security correspondent, Jim Sciutto.
I want to begin with you, though, Jim, at the White House. A prosecutor calling this fence jumper a, quote, "danger to the president." When you see that video, it is still stunning. Now we're hearing about 800 rounds of ammunition. What else are you learning?
JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right. I mean, you can count the seconds. It was roughly 20 seconds between the time jumped over that fence and by the time he got inside the White House.
Prosecutors are calling him a danger, or they were calling him a danger to the president. A court appearance that Omar Gonzalez, the suspected fence jumper had earlier today.
And yes, as prosecutors laid out, he has had some run-ins with law enforcement before. Consider what happened earlier this summer in July. They are saying that Gonzalez was arrested by police and with county, Virginia.
That's in Southwest Virginia with a sawed off shotgun and a map that circled the White House. Then in August, he was stopped on the south side of the White House grounds outside of the fence of the White House grounds with a hatchet on his belt.
At that point, he was stopped by Secret Service but he was released. He was not detained or arrested and then, of course, what happened on Friday night as a result of that.
Law enforcement officials, officers, investigators searched Gonzalez' car and they say that at that point, they found the 800 rounds of ammunition inside that car.
But it appears at this point, Erin, that we have a situation where there were dots that should have been connected, that weren't connected, that might have allowed law enforcement to stop this man sooner.
BURNETT: That just only adds to the stunning breach of security. What is the Secret Service saying tonight? I mean, you hear the president coming out and doing what he needed to do, which is defend them. So many do make great sacrifices for him and his family. Nonetheless this was a serious lapse.
ACOSTA: Absolutely. This was unprecedented. People around here who covered the White House for many years do not recall anything like this happening before. However, there have been security incidents at the White House over the years. No, question about it.
But the Secret Service, at this point, they are beefing up security on the grounds outside the White House along Pennsylvania Avenue. I saw additional officers today. Not a huge jump in terms of numbers, but you did notice a difference. In addition to that, they are doing an internal review that the White House is also waiting for.
One of the things they want to know about is why the canine dogs were not deployed. They act like missiles and go after suspect who's jump over the fence and can take them down quickly.
The canine dog in this case was not deployed, according to a law enforcement official that I talked to, and they think that's inexcusable.
They wanted to know why the door was unlocked. And here at the White House they did tell us from now on, this door behind me will remain locked on a regular basis -- Erin.
BURNETT: So many questions and of course, you have to would not if it was a very nice Friday night.
ACOSTA: That's right.
BURNETT: Thanks to you, Jim Acosta. Our other breaking story, officials telling CNN, some Americans who are believed to have traveled to fight with terrorists in Syria are back in the United States tonight.
Our chief national security correspondent, Jim Sciutto is OUTFRONT with the latest on that. Jim, this is the first time they've talked about 100 or so that may have been fighting.
They've talked about the risk of Americans coming home. This is the first time they said some of them are home.
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: You're right. A lot more detail on this 100 figures. Just to be clear, it is 100 Americans who have gone to fight in Syria in some capacity or tried to get there to fight.
Now those who did it successfully, some fought for the worst groups. The ISIS' or al Nusra, which is an al Qaeda tied group. Others fought for some of the more moderate groups like the Free Syrian Army.
But it is believed that some of those who made it over there to fight with these militants have made it back to the U.S. Now I'm told that the current intelligence does not show that any of the returnees actually fought for ISIS.
But it is the belief that some of them who did fight there for other militant groups made it back here and that, of course, can be a risk in itself. Now we spoke to Jeh Johnson, Wolf Blitzer spoke to Jeh Johnson, the secretary of homeland security earlier today.
And he said they have a pretty good idea of who those people are. The FBI tracking them. It shows you the difficulty here because it is a lot of people to track. That flow continues. It is hard to keep track of them when you have incomplete information. BURNETT: Of course, it is and they also have passports likely may not have stamps from countries that may alert them to any sort of transgression. And I know there is a new audiotape tonight, Jim, that is calling for attacks on Americans and other countries in the coalition. An ISIS tape that you've had a chance to listen to.
SCIUTTO: You're right. Erin, what is particularly alarming about this, we've seen a lot of alarming ISIS videos and exhortations to violence. This one is so general. It says basically to ISIS supporters around the world, take any chance you can find to kill a nonbeliever.
Whether an American or a British or a French. They focus their attention on those countries because they're the ones now leading military action and other action against ISIS in Iraq and possibly Syria.
Say take any opportunity. Don't wait for a plan. Don't wait for the OK from headquarters in Syria. But if you can kill some of -- if you can stab them, if you can invade their homes, go ahead and do it. Have a listen to this excerpt of this tape.
Actually, I'll read it for you here. It was in Arabic. Rig the roads with explosives for them. Attacking there bases. Raid their homes. Cut off their heads. Do not let them feel safe, feel secure. Remove their families from their home and there after blow up their homes.
Imagine all those ways that they are encouraging ISIS supporters. This is be even folks who might have train for ISIS necessarily in Syria. If you have a connection or you feel some sympathy for them, they're saying take that opportunity.
We saw a plot just like that in Australia foiled, thankfully, last week. And this is the concern when you speak to the Jeh Johnsons of the world. They're worried about lone wolf attacks like this.
BURNETT: Right. Those are always the hardest to stop because there is often no trail. Thanks so much, Jim Sciutto.
OUTFRONT now, Congressman Mike Turner, a Republican from Ohio in the House Armed Services Committee. Great to have you with us, sir. You just heard Jim Sciutto reporting Americans trained with terror groups are now returning to the United States. How big of a threat is this?
REP. MIKE TURNER (R), HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE: It is a direct threat. That goes to the heart of trying to understand the national security threat of ISIS. These people are one passport and flight away from returning to the United States.
And you certainly saw with this statement that was just read. This is certainly a terrorist organization encouraging attacks upon civilians. The attack is real and it is direct to the United States.
BURNETT: And they're calling on supporters to launch these attacks specifically on the United States and France, which are the two countries leading the air strikes. The question though remains that of capability. Intent is one thing. Capability in another. This sounds a bit adolescent when you hear what they're saying. Their intent would be, is far from that, but it doesn't necessarily read that they have it all together.
TURNER: Clearly they have a significant capability having come out of Syria, taking a good portion of the territory in Iraq. They have financial capabilities as they looked to oil money that they've been able to obtain and the spoils of the towns and areas that they've taken. So they have real organizational capability and asset capability.
BURNETT: And right now, how many Americans do you think that there could be? I know they're now saying a few, but obviously 100 or so went over fight. So do you think the number could end significantly higher?
TURNER: Absolutely. That's the other thing that's certainly concerning about this is there is no real way to know. These are intelligence estimates based on information that has come in the hands of the United States. But there are significant number of people who are fighting and who are engaged in this, which we don't know their identity and we don't know their numbers.
BURNETT: And I want to ask you about the other breaking story tonight, Jim Acosta reporting on the man who jumped the White House fence. You see that video running all the way up to the White House door which was unlocked getting in.
Not apprehended by anybody. I mean, it is stunning. A guy who had three earlier clear indications of intent, including showing up at the White House with a hatchet. How did that happen?
TURNER: It really is astounding. Earlier reporting, all protocol that's would have prevented this were not followed. There are protocols in place that would have prevented this from happening. The warning signs that you were pointing to, those should have been an area where there have been greater investigation that also hopefully it could have thwarted this.
BURNETT: Are the Secret Service to blame here? I mean, it sounds like that's who dropped the ball specifically.
TURNER: Well, clearly since we know that protocols were not followed that could have prevented this and someone wasn't doing their job, obviously they need to be held accountable. An assessment needs to be done to assure the White House and the first family are safe.
BURNETT: Just stunning, absolute stunning breach. Thank you so much. Appreciate your time, Congressman.
And on Wednesday, I'm going to be interviewing former President Bill Clinton. We'll ask him about the threat from ISIS and you will see a sneak peek of our conversation at 7:00 Wednesday. President Bill Clinton, a CNN special town hall airs Wednesday night at 9:00 Eastern right here on CNN. OUTFRONT next, police say he may be the last person to have seen missing UVA student, Hannah Graham. Where is Jesse Matthew and how did police let him get away?
Plus, Janay Rice, she's become a household name, but really just a face. Video leaked of her husband knocking her out in an elevator. Who is she and what is she doing right now? Her friends speak OUTFRONT.
And Ebola victims turned away from hospitals because there aren't enough beds. We're live tonight from the hot zone.
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BURNETT: Breaking news, the FBI now joining the search for University of Virginia student Hannah Graham. This as police are searching for a man they say was the last person to be seen with Graham before she vanished nine days ago. Today, Charlottesville police issued a wanted poster for 32-year-old Jesse Matthew and served a second search warrant at his home.
Jean Casarez is OUTFRONT in Charlottesville.
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We are right here in the downtown mall at the -- in Charlottesville, the university. And this is the exact area that Hannah walked minutes before she vanished from the face of the earth. Law enforcement is saying tonight they are not giving up.
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JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As police go into the second week of the search for Hannah Graham, the investigation is focusing on Jesse Matthew, who police believe is the last person to be seen with the University of Virginia sophomore.
CHIEF TIMOTHY LONGO, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA POLICE: We want to talk to him. We want to talk about his interaction with a sweet young girl that we can't find because he was with her.
CASAREZ: Today, police issued this wanted poster.
LONGO: It's important we talk to Jesse Matthew for very obvious reasons, but it's also important that if he and Hannah parted ways on this mall, we need to know that as well.
CASAREZ: Police have not charged Matthew with Graham's disappearance but he is wanted on charges of reckless driving. Police say he was seen speeding after showing up Saturday at the police station and asking for a lawyer.
LONGO: Detectives don't know anymore about the interaction he had with that young girl anymore in the moment he walked in.
CASAREZ: The 32-year-old has been employed since August 2012 by University Hospital as an operating room patient technician. According to police, surveillance video shows Matthew putting his arm around the 18-year-old. They say they ended up at the Tempo Restaurant. I asked investigators if they can confirm the two left the downtown area together.
DET. SGT. JIM MOONEY, CHARLOTTESVILLE VIRGINIA POLICE: We do have them together after they left Tempo Restaurant. So he's still with her at that time.
CASAREZ (on camera): Law enforcement searched Jesse Matthew's apartment for a second time today. Police say, forensic results of items previously collected won't come in until tomorrow.
And earlier, I spoke with Jesse Matthew's family. They say his attorney told them not to comment.
(voice-over): Graham's family hopes that someone comes forward with information that will bring their daughter back.
JOHN GRAHAM, FATHER OF HANNAH GRAHAM: Somebody knows what happen to Hannah and others maybe watching and they may know something about what happened to Hannah.
CASAREZ: Police believe Matthew can provide answers that Graham's grieving parents need to know.
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CASAREZ (on camera): And we have been trying to locate the attorney that actually went to the police department on Saturday to aid Jesse Matthew. I spoke with the public defender today and he said that they are not allowed to assist someone until they have been charged with a crime. And Jesse Matthew has not been charged with a crime. They were not the ones that walked through the police station to help Jesse Matthew. Erin?
BURNETT: And, Jean, I know that they're also -- the information that they've been able to get from the search warrants, they're kind of going through forensic tests. What are they exactly looking for?
CASAREZ: Well, it's the forensic lab that's doing the testing. They're obviously in his car for her DNA. But it's not a criminal to sit in a car. It's not a crime to drive off with someone in a car. So there have to be looking for some type of evidence to show that a crime has been committed.
Now, if we, and we're speculating, but if he has said at all that they parted ways when they left the tempo restaurant, they did not go together, and they find her DNA in the car. Then you have an inconsistency. You also have someone authorities could say is obstructing justice in lying to law enforcement, conceivably. Erin?
BURNETT: Jean Casarez, thank you.
The Charlottesville Police Chief Timothy Longo is OUTFRONT. And good to have you with us tonight, sir. A second search warrant, we've just learned, has been issued to search Jesse Matthew's apartment. What are you looking for?
LONGO: Erin, let's be up front. I've just learned about that search warrant just moments ago myself with all the activities that have been taking place today. It's my understanding that warrant was secured to search for clothing that had been identified during the course of the investigation. I can't go into any more detail than that. But that's specially what they were looking for. I don't know at this point whether any of that was secured or not.
BURNETT: What more do you need to make a full arrest?
LONGO: Well, that would require me to go into some facts that I'm not prepared to discuss. But, as a practical matter, what happens in investigations of this magnitude, our commonwealth attorney, that is our chief prosecuting officer, and the city will work hand in hand with detectives, and along the way will do the probable cause investigation. He's of the opinion that we're not there yet sufficient to ask the magistrate to consider an arrest warrant for Jesse Matthew.
So we're not at that point. And I think, in all fairness to get to that point, one of the thing we need to do is to talk to Jesse Matthew.
BURNETT: So that's the big question here. Jesse Matthew voluntarily walked into the police station, of course, as we know. Asked to see a lawyer. And then he sped away at high speed. I mean, what happened after that? My understanding is you all chose not to pursue him.
LONGO: Well, let's put the chronology back in order. He left the police station and then sometime thereafter was observed in our neighboring jurisdiction of Albemarle County leaving a residence in a vehicle at a high rate of speed. He was being surveiled by a state police trooper. I believe there was a member of the federal authorities in the vehicle as well.
They had to make a decision; they had to make a calculated risk as to whether continuing to engage in high risk driving behavior was going to put others at risk. And, quite frankly, this was a residential neighborhood. It was in the middle of the day. He was about to enter a highly populated roadway. So they made a calculated decision, and that's why they disengaged, went before the magistrate, and obtained the two warrants that they did.
BURNETT: Do you have a fear, though, that every moment counts? That every moment may matter here as to whether Hannah is still alive?
LONGO: Of course. Of course. Absolutely. But keep in mind, we need to - we have legal standards we need to meet. If we're going to detain someone, we need reasonable suspicion. If we're going to arrest someone, we need probably cause. And if we don't meet either of those standards at any given time, we could damage the subsequent prosecution, if one should take place.
BURNETT: But you believe that Jesse Matthew was the last person to see Hannah, right? LONGO: I have no information to the contrary, I can tell you that. Everything we know at this point is that he was, in fact, the last person to see Hannah before she disappeared, which is why it's so critically important that we talk to him.
BURNETT: So he's the last person to have seen her, and then he fled at high speed. But that's not enough. You still are staying the bottom line is you do not have enough evidence, even from searching that apartment twice and the car, to actually formally ask for his arrest.
LONGO: As I speak to you now, that's correct.
BURNETT: And you have been searching the area. Have you found anything that may indicate where she is, that may indicate whether there is still a chance that this young woman is alive?
LONGO: You know, we have not found any piece of evidence to answer that question one way or the other. But I'm going to continue to be helpful. We're going to continue to investigate as aggressively as we can. We're going to go about our work in a thorough, proper, and constitutional fashion. But the view is always towards handing Hannah.
BURNETT: And, as you know, since 2009, at least four young women from the area have disappeared or been killed. And one of them was named Morgan Harrington. I spoke to her parents last week, and her mother suggested that there could be a link between the murder of her daughter and Hannah. Do you think that that's possible?
LONGO: You now, anything is possible. That's a very logical and legitimate question. We're working hand in hand with the very investigators who worked that case, with the state police and the FBI. And so the group of people that are in the room now, as we speak, are some of the same people that worked that case as well. So they're familiar with the issues. They're familiar with the evidence in that case. And so as we move toward this investigation, to the extent there's any crossover or linkage, we're certainly going to - we're going to continue down that road. But right now we're at the point where we need to find Hannah.
BURNETT: All right, Chief Longo, thanks very much for your time tonight.
LONGO: No, Erin, thank you.
BURNETT: OUTFRONT next, the owner of the Ravens in more hot water tonight. So he think a zero tolerance policy against domestic violence would open the door to false charges and ruin football careers.
Plus, the spread of Ebola. Experts warning tonight that as many as 50,000 new people could be infected with Ebola in the next few weeks. We're going to go live to the hot zone.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BURNETT: Tonight, the Baltimore Ravens insist there was no cover up of
the Ray Rice domestic assault case. The team's owner, Steve Bisciotti, insisting ESPN's damning report that the team knew about the videotape of Ray Rice knocking out his now-wife. By the way, in excruciating detail, walked through scene by scene everything that happened hours after the attack. Well, Bisciotti says it's all lies.
There was, though, something else that caught my attention today from Bisciotti. He insists it's a bad idea to implement a zero tolerance policy when it comes to domestic violence in the NFL, and here's his reasoning.
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STEVE BISCIOTTI, BALTIMORE RAVENS OWNER: You can bet there are some opportunistic people out there that are going to look at this zero tolerance place we're getting to, we're going to get to, and they're going to say, boy, this is really, really going to be easy to threaten and get some money. Because the minute I threaten him in season, he gets cut.
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BURNETT: Is the Ravens owner forgetting the real situation here? Tonight, we're learning more about the victim in the attack, Janay, from those who know her best. Suzanne Malveaux is OUTFRONT.
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Janay Rice is neither a punching bag nor a punch line.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know Janay to be very kind. To be very smart, intelligent.
MALVEAUX: For professor Sandy Nichols and others who taught Janay at Towson University, she is not simply the woman in the elevator.
SANDY NICHOLS, PROFESSOR AT TOWSON UNIV.: A very sweet and motivated student. And she just worked really hard to do her best.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are thinking of her as a one dimensional character, that she is the wife of Ray Rice, that she is a victim of domestic violence. Those do not define who she is. She is a mother, a friend, a committed student.
MALVEAUX: That Janay, according to friends who know her, is anxious to get her life back.
ANITA MARKS, RADIO HOST: On Sundays, game day, getting ready, going to the stadium. Sitting with the rest of the wives, cheering on her husband. That life as they know it has been taken away.
MALVEAUX: Anita Marks got to know Janay and Ray Rice personally when she co-hosted a radio show with the former Ravens running back in Baltimore. MARKS: They were a young couple in love.
MALVEAUX: Before she was Janay Rice, she was Janay Ashley Palmer, a girl from the New York suburb of Mt. Vernon.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was the president of the student council at her high school which was an exclusive, all girls Catholic high school.
MALVEAUX: Ray attended nearby New Rochelle and they kept in touch in college. Their first purported date was at a Cheesecake Factory. In 2008, Ray was drafted out of Rutgers by the Ravens.
MARKS: She followed him to Baltimore. He put her through school.
MALVEAUX: According to Marks, the relationship turned unstable.
MARKS: It got very toxic, it got very unhealthy.
MALVEAUX: Janay threw herself into her studies, earning a degree in communications and becoming a proud mom, often seen pushing her daughter in a stroller from class to class.
DARCEY MORRIS, TOWSON UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR: She really perhaps wanted to be seen on her own merits, and her own work without being associated all the time with a celebrity.
MALVEAUX: For graduation, Ray proposed with the ring and a new car. Since the elevator incident was exposed, the two have rarely be seen in public. Only recently venturing out to a football game at Ray's old high school. Sources close to the couple say they are leaning on each other.
MARKS: That NFL family is no longer there for him. He has to turn to someone or something. And he's turned to Janay.
MALVEAUX: Friends say they are thriving from counseling but with all the attention, they're having difficulty trusting people.
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BURNETT: Suzanne, just hearing how the friends would describe her, the things they've said. I mean, what have you said about how she's feeling about this entire incident? About the fact that she keeps seeing the video playing on TV?
MALVEAUX: Yes, you know, there are a number of takeaways here, Erin, because in talking to friends and associates, they essentially, they're hunkered down now at home. They're watching movies. They have a small inner circle of supporters. You got a few ravens players who call Ray, and the Lady Ravens, the wives who called Janay.
And while he's feeling he's been cooperative with the NFL and since demonized, Janay still feels badly like she in some part played a part in tearing Ray down. And one of the toughest things, Erin, that they're dealing with is
losing their identity. They were so wrapped up in the Ravens franchise. They even named their daughter Rayven, after Ray and the football team. Well, they got to let that go.
They're also very concerned about the day their daughter will see the elevator altercation. And one thing they are hopeful about is that they do believe that Ray is going to play again.
A lot of people very protective circle right now. Not a lot of people talking publicly. They feel very protective of this couple and they really need to get in front of this. And they're just still through it in the beginning stages of all this.
BURNETT: Wow.
Suzanne, thank you very much. An incredible look at what's going on with that couple right now.
Former NFL player Don McPherson is with me, along with CNN anchor Carol Costello.
OK. Great to have you both with us.
I did not know, Don, that they named their daughter after the Ravens. And that little detail for some reason seems to be rather poignant, in giving a sense at what they're going through right now. What do you make of it?
DON MCPHERSON, FORMER NFL PLAYER: I think one of the problems for a lot of NFL players and while everyone should see Janay as their sister, as their daughter, as their mother, as their friend, and see the woman that she is, you must keep an eye on what this is all about. These two are going through something very publicly that is probably the most private crime in our society.
BURNETT: Yes.
MCPHERSON: Which is why we call it domestic violence, if it only happens in the home, in the privacy of the home. That is its origin. So, the light of day is being shown.
It is also showing how much his life was their identity.
BURNETT: Yes.
MCPHERSON: And his life as an NFL player was their identity, which makes it a very cloudy situation for both of them and as we're seeing in the Ravens organization and the NFL as a whole, trying to pull that apart and saying this is a domestic violence crime that is taking place in the context of this NFL landscape, that we are having a very hard and difficult time talking very honestly about it, because of how deeply entrenched it is in our families, in our culture.
BURNETT: I mean, Carol, you know, you've been very open about this, that a college boyfriend knocked you out one time. This is something you've talked about and been open about. A lot of people watching are probably in awe of that, because they haven't been able to do that.
You heard Janay's friends talking about her and Ray. And what do you hear?
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: I hear a lot of women trying to be good friends to Janay, when what they really ought to be doing is saying, Janay, you're a victim of domestic violence. You have to quit defending Ray Rice. You have to quit talking about this. You have to quit appearing in public with him. What you have to do right now is work on your relationship.
If the counseling is really working, then jump right into it. This is a time to work on your marriage and your relationship and get your problems solved. Not a time to get the job back for the husband who punched you in the elevator.
BURNETT: Right, and the guilt she still feels, because you're saying when you went through it, some of your friends were defending the boyfriend.
COSTELLO: Right, I completely understand it from her standpoint, because now, she's destroyed their entire family life. It's not just his life that's been affected. It is hers and the daughter's.
MCPHERSON: She didn't destroy it.
COSTELLO: But that's how she feels.
MCPHERSON: I'm sorry. Yes.
But that's where, even this whole conversation is even shifting to the NFL now. And somehow the Ravens organization has destroyed his career.
And so, all of a sudden, Ray Rice and that's why -- you have to be very careful in this conversation not to make Ray Rice the victim -- the victim of Janay Rice doing something to him, the victim of the NFL doing something to him. Ray Rice is a perpetrator --
BURNETT: There are a lot of people who would like it to be that way and one seems to be the owner of the Ravens who is saying, that a zero tolerance policy would create an environment of false accusations and ruining careers. I mean, that is a stunningly --
MCPHERSON: It's a slippery slope towards accountability, isn't it?
BURNETT: Insensitive. I'm appalled that even when someone would counsel him to go out that he would say it.
MCPHERSON: That's the problem that clearly no one counseled him. He didn't think that losing his job, losing the ownership of the team was a threat to him.
So, this is a man who's completely out of touch with how everyone else is looking at this. And the problem for the NFL right now is that they have to qualify the players in the league versus what the league is moving forward. It's going to be a very difficult time if they have a zero tolerance with the players in the league.
The statement they need to be saying is a guy like Jameis Winston right now doesn't qualify for employment in the National Football League. That's where the zero tolerance is.
COSTELLO: The thing struck me during that whole news conference by the Baltimore Ravens owner is actually two things. He said he loves Ray Rice. He still loves Ray Rice. He believes in redemption but he wasn't curious enough to actually want to watch the tape of what happened in that elevator, because he didn't want to watch it, he didn't care. Which I find interesting because if you love a person and you're a great friend, you want to know bad with the good so you can hem your friend, right?
BURNETT: Right.
COSTELLO: You don't want to close your eyes to their faults, because that's not really a true friend.
The other thing he talked about was redemption. He said that he would be interested. He would open the door to Ray Rice possibly working with players in the future to teach them the good evils of domestic violence, right?
BURNETT: Right.
COSTELLO: But he would not let him play football again. I just find that strange.
MCPHERSON: And it's strange because he doesn't have the answer to this larger problem. And the answer to the large problem is, how do we get control of the guys who are currently employed with us?
In other words, I'll get you off my problem so I have to do these press conferences, but help me control the other guys that bring to the league.
BURNETT: I also don't understand the comments he would make about the people who do this, someone would accuse him of violence to get money. I mean, what money?
MCPHERSON: To extort players.
BURNETT: OK, if they're going to lose their job and not get the money. So, I kind of lose the logic.
COSTELLO: I took it to be -- it might because, you know, I'm biased on this subject but I took it to mean all of these women would come out of the woodwork and accuse these players of wrongdoing when they didn't get anything wrong.
BURNETT: So, they would have to be paid off and be quiet.
COSTELLO: I don't know.
MCPHERSON: Here's the problem for this conversation right now and the press conference this afternoon. It's just giving them further and further entrenched into how bad the misogyny and sexism within the league is. They need to be talking about the solutions. They need to be talking about, not that this is a women's problem and we need to control the narrative.
When do we ask, when does a woman say, why does a man stay in a relationship where him being abusive to his mate is OK? It's part of the make-up and the DNA of men? That's the question that needs to be addressed. That's the question the NFL can be very effective in that conversation.
BURNETT: All right. Thanks to both of you.
And OUTFRONT next, Sierra Leone discovered more than 90 bodies this weekend, all of them victims of Ebola. The spread is now getting close to exponential. We're going to go live to Liberia.
Plus, iPhone mania -- just how new iPhones does Apple sold in three days?
And, adios Anchorage. Jeanne Moos on the fine art of signing off.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As for this job, not that I have a choice but (EXPLETIVE DELETED) it, I quit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. We apologize for that. We'll be right back.
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BURNETT: The Ebola outbreak just keeps getting worse. New number tonight show there are more than 5,800 cases of Ebola in five countries. More than 2,800 people have died, and a Columbia University estimate forecast, there could be as many as 50,000 Ebola cases in the next few weeks. The hardest hit country is Liberia.
Our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen is there, and has a firsthand look at what it is like for those people desperately trying to stop the crisis.
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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): An international health crisis unprecedented in modern times, Ebola. Ground zero, Liberia. This city, a hot spot as a Sunday service comes to an end, parishioners washing up with chlorine, the threat of the virus ever present.
This young parishioner Moses Kailah (ph) lost 13 of his relatives to Ebola, including his parents. The pastor tells his congregation, no hands. No hugging.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you afraid of death? No. But I don't want to die from Ebola.
COHEN: In the capital Monrovia, a prayer before the dead body management team winds its way through the city slum to retrieve cadavers. But even these suits can't protect their hearts from what they see on the job like a baby hungry for his dead mother's milk.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I took the key. I opened the door. I went in. I saw the 6-month-old child licking on the mother the mother because the mother died. She was lying on her stomach, and the baby was licking on the mother's skin. So, right away, I started shedding tears.
COHEN: Lisa Kani (ph), the woman inside this bag, one of more than 1,500 people suspected of dying from Ebola in Liberia. One major reason? A shortage of hospital beds. So, the sick forced to stay home where they can infect others.
This new clinic opened just Sunday. But when we arrive, no one come outside to bring these patients in. Too weak, they fall to the ground. Inside this ambulance, three people make a seven-hour trip to get here and die outside the hospital.
Back in Kakatha (ph), Father King does his part. He stopped giving everyone communion from the same cup.
(on camera): By stopping this practice, have you saved lives?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, definitely.
COHEN (voice-over): His congregation awaiting the health promise by President Obama.
ANTHONY KAILAH, SCHOOL TEACHER: The news that America was coming in with a huge number of personnel and materials -- that is a relief to Liberia and Liberians.
COHEN: They know relief won't come quickly. For now, Ebola is here to stay.
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BURNETT: Elizabeth, I mean, I'm -- the image of that baby and the mother and those bodies you were showing outside the hospital. Those people who traveled seven hours and died because there were no beds. What is being done about that?
COHEN: You know, Erin, this is something I've sort of learned as I've been on the ground here is that things don't always go as quickly as one might like and they don't always go as smoothly. So, there was an Ebola treatment clinic that opened up yesterday, 100 new beds. There was a ceremony, there was much excitement about this. But on this first day they were open, ambulances arrived.
And when we were there, there was no one to take in the patient who couldn't walk. So, we just watched as these patients sat in the ambulance. No one came to get them. A few people tried to get out and they were so weak that they
collapsed on the ground and they were left, at least for a period of time on the ground. And you just see that there are so many stems to making this work. And at the same time Ebola is growing exponentially and then the efforts are not growing exponentially. That is not a good combination.
BURNETT: All right. Elizabeth Cohen, thank you very much. It must be devastating to have to observe that.
Next, the Anchorage anchor who dropped the F-bomb on her career.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As for this job, not that I have a choice but (EXPLETIVE DELETED) it, I quit.
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BURNETT: Jeanne Moos is next.
And just how big is the iPhone 6 craze? It's tonight's number.
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BURNETT: And time to visit Anderson to see what's coming up on "AC 360."
Hi, Anderson.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Hey, Erin. Yes, we breaking news tonight on the special two-hour edition of "AC360", including new details on the arsenal of weapons held by the White House fence jumper. How did he get inside the White House?
Also tonight's keeping them honest, does a multibillion dollar business get and keep nonprofit status? And could the latest string of scandals put the NFL's money machine in jeopardy?
Investigative reporter Drew Griffin tonight follows the money back to a deal in the '60s in the early years of the league to tell you why they have tax exempt status. What he found may surprise you.
Also, our exclusive on-the-ground reporting on Ebola crisis, conditions under which victims and aid workers were asked to survive are unimaginable. We sent Elizabeth Cohen to document how the disease has struck chaos and fear and the outbreak of spreading those stories.
And word that air strikes against ISIS targets in Syria could begin at any time, as well as the Ridiculist -- all at the top of the hour, Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Anderson, see you in just a few moments.
And, when leaving one job for another, you know, they always say it's best not to burn bridges, right? But sometimes you have this moment where you imagine what it would be like to leave the way you really want the leave. Well, tonight, an on-air reporter did it.
Here's Jeanne Moos.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Why just quit quietly when you can go on live TV and drop an F-bomb?
Charlo Green (ph) quit her job as a reporter at an Alaska TV station to become a marijuana activist. And critics are asking, what was she smoking to leave like this?
CHARLO GREENE, FORMER KTVA REPORTER: And as for this job -- well, not that I have a choice, but (EXPLETIVE DELETED) it, I quit.
MOOS: The F-bomb left the anchor shell-shocked.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We apologize for that. We'll be -- we'll be right back. We -- pardon for us.
MOOS: Pardon for us? Well, at least she didn't scream like Ron Burgundy's floor manager.
RON BURGUNDY: Go (EXPLETIVE DELETED) yourself, San Diego.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cut!
MOOS: KTVA later tweeted, "Viewers, we sincerely apologize for this inappropriate language used by a KTVA reporter on the air. The employee has been terminated."
Green was coming out of a story she'd done on the Alaska Cannabis Club.
GREEN: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) it, I quit.
MOOS: She admitted she owned the club and would be devoting all her energy to an upcoming vote on whether to legalize pot in Alaska.
(on camera): With those four little word, one of them four letters, Green joins the ranks of those who have said, "Take this job and shove it" in spectacular fashion.
(voice-over): None more spectacular than this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Guys, what is this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm here to tell you that I'm quitting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One, two, three, four --
(BAND PLAYING)
MOOS: The hotel room service server who brought a band along when he handed his boss his resignation. And who could forget flight attendant Steven Slater (ph) who got on
the plane's P.A. to curse and quit, then inflated the emergency slide for his grand exit?
Or how about Adam the Taco Bell manager who rearranged the letters on the restaurant sign. At least he put a smiley face after his F-bomb.
And this guy walked into the break room with his boom box blasting. And the "I quit" emblazoned on his naked chest. At least Charlo Green kept her clothes on, as the reporter (INAUDIBLE)
GREEN: Why differentiate my toke from your beer?
MOOS: Happy to see her job in TV go up in smoke.
GREEN: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) it, I quit.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pardon for us.
MOOS: -- New York.
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BURNETT: I kind of want to hear more about the one, the one afterwards who tried to go to commercial, then poor thing, there was no commercial to go to.
All right. The anchor who quits is going to join Don Lemon and Alisyn Camerota on "CNN TONIGHT" at 10:00 Eastern. You don't want to miss that.
Next, iPhone 6 sales. So I've been seeing the lines at the Apple Stores. They've been nonstop for days. So what's the number? It's next.
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BURNETT: So, iPhone fans have turned out in huge numbers to buy the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. You've been anywhere near an Apple Store, you have seen the never-ending lines all weekend. People waited for days and others have woken up at absolutely sick hours just try to get it online.
So, now, we have the first taste of how many Apple phones have been sold. That's the number tonight: 10 million. That's how many iPhone 6 and 6 pluses Apple has sold in the three days since the launch. Apple previously announced it sold more than 4 million phones on the first day available to preorder.
This number is significant because it doesn't include China, the largest smartphone market in the world. Regulators there haven't even approved the new phones.
Anderson starts now.
