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Turkey Reluctant to Join the Anti-ISIS Coalition; Will Ferguson Ever Be the Same?; Is Chicago Ready for Air Travel Monday?; Can Jodi Arias Get a Fair Jury?; NFL Team to Call Europe Home?; Technology Making Driving Safer; Violent Protests Rock Hong Kong; Volcano Erupts, Dozens Feared Dead

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Good evening, everyone. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow, joining you from New York.

This hour, we are fast-forwarding to the week ahead, a big week ahead. We'll take a look at all stories you're going to be talking about and hearing about this coming week.

First up, five questions for the coming week.

First, question one, why is Turkey reluctant to join the military effort against ISIS? And will this be the week that they step up?

Turkey is a longtime NATO partner, also the West's biggest ally -- Muslim ally in that region. The battle against ISIS has brushed right up against their border. We'll talk about Turkey's role, what it should be, and what might change, straight ahead.

Question number two, will Ferguson, Missouri, ever be the same? Two police officers are shot at overnight, hours apart. One in Ferguson, one nearby. Are tensions about to boil over weeks after Michael Brown was shot and killed by an officer there? And also, there have been numerous attempts to ease the tensions there. We'll take you live to Ferguson this hour.

Question number three, will Chicago's airports be ready for heavy ground travel tomorrow morning? Thousands of flights were canceled this weekend after a worker set an air traffic control center on fire. But with plans to completely gut the scene of that crime, how long is it going to take for things to get back to normal?

Question number four, when will this man, accused of beheading a woman in Oklahoma, go to jail and face charges? Police say Alton Nolen, a recent convert to Islam, slit the throat and beheaded a co-worker after he was fired from his job. We just received an emotional videotape statement from two women identifying themselves as his relatives. We're going to bring you that straight ahead. And also this, question number five: who will decide where with

convicted murderer Jody Arias lives or dies? New jury selection starts tomorrow in Phoenix. Arias was convicted last year of murdering her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander. But the jury deadlocked on whether or not she deserved the death penalty, so they're going to try it all over again in terms of deciding her fate.

She spent weeks on the stand describing the lurid details of her sex life and what happened. Soon, you may hear brand new revelations. We're going to talk about that.

Well, the number of nations now committed to destroying the militant group ISIS is more than 50, including several Arab nations. Many NATO countries are signed on as well, but Turkey -- not Turkey yet.

Over the past few days, Kurdish fighters and ISIS elements have exchanged fire on Turkey's border with Syria, forcing thousands to flee their homes.

Our Phil Black is right there.

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PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Only a few kilometers to the west from here is Kobani. It is the major Kurdish Syrian town in this region. It is being advanced upon by ISIS from the south, the west, and the east.

We are monitoring from this location that eastern advance. And it is now, as I say, only a few kilometers from where we are standing now. And it would seem that once they get beyond -- you hear a very large round there detonating behind me. Once they move from this point here --

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

BLACK: It's going down very well with this local crowd. To be fair, they've got no idea, no way of really knowing who's scoring the hits on the other side, but clearly this crowd clearly believes that that was a hit for the Kurdish fighters who they've been standing here cheering for through the afternoon.

Now, the reason why this battle going on behind me matters so much because it is so close to Kobani. It just by a few kilometers, but if you head further east, you get a sense of how quickly ISIS is advancing.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HARLOW: Thank you for that. Phil Black, reporting there right on the border.

President Obama says the United States has underestimated the capabilities of ISIS while overestimating the Iraqi military's will to fight. He told CBS "60 Minutes" how he believes ISIS managed to rise to power. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Essentially what happened with ISIL, you had al Qaeda in Iraq which was a vicious group but our marines were able to quash with the help of Sunni tribes. They went back underground, but over the past couple of years during the chaos of the Syrian civil war, where essentially you have huge swaths of the country that are completely ungoverned, they were able to reconstitute themselves and take advantage of the chaos.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: Let's talk about this all with military analyst, Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona. He joins me here in New York -- along with Peter Beinart, our political commentator who's written extensively about ISIS.

Let's begin with this, let's talk about Turkey. We know the president of Turkey and Vice President Joe Biden had an important meeting this week. We know there's a very important political process in Turkey this week.

To you, Colonel Francona, what should Turkey's role be in this? Because they have exceptionally strong military force.

COL. RICK FRANCONA (RET), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: The Turks bring serious military capabilities to the table if they decide they're going to be part of the coalition. The Turkish air force is excellent and they're right there. These Turkish air bases are minutes from where all the fighting is going on. So, they could really increase the intensity of the operations over Syria.

HARLOW: But they haven't yet.

FRANCONA: No, they haven't yet because right now, they don't have any authorization from their parliament. That's going to probably happen on Thursday. This would be very important because they would bring a lot of capability.

Now, politically, you know, the Turks have stayed out of this for a while. They're concerned about jump in and helping what essentially will be the Syrian Kurds because for years the Turks have been trying to extinguish the flames of Kurdish nationalism and now, they're afraid they're going to start that back up.

HARLOW: What do you think, Peter? I mean, what should Turkey's role be in this and how much can the United States politically count on Turkey? Because remember, when all is said and done, when the U.S. eventually pulls out in whatever way, shape, or form, Turkey is still there right on this border.

PETER BEINART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Right. I mean, the one thing I think we know is that consequences of all this are going to be long term and unpredictable, just as they were as a result of America's invasion in Iraq. And we know that the consequences will be more serious for Turkey which is on the border -- HARLOW: Right.

BEINART: -- than it has been for the United States.

So, the Turks on the one hand recognize that the Islamic State is a danger to them, antithetical. On the other hand, they need reassurance from the United States if they join this effort, that they're not going to be left with a Kurdish state in Iraq, Syria, and which will create secessionist pressures in Turkey.

The question is: can the United States really reassure them very much on that front? What leverage do we have over the Kurds at this point?

HARLOW: What was said at that meeting here in Turkey on Thursday between the vice president and Turkish president.

I want to talk about the end game because you can see the end game in Iraq, if indeed, we do have an inclusive government that truly can establish and hold power. The end game in Syria still is a huge question mark. Do you think that that is a big problem in our fight against ISIS, Peter, because what is the end game that the U.S. wants to see in Syria? They don't want the Assad regime. What is it? Are they betting on the Free Syrian Army to take over political control, too?

BEINART: You know, it's a really good question, because the truth is ever since the ISIS beheadings and America started focusing on is as a national security threat, the conversation about the long-term aims in Syria have gone out the window. That's partly because very few people have good answers to that.

I mean, the prospect that we're going to so empower the Free Syrian Army that they're going to destroy ISIS and then start to take Iran (ph) --

HARLOW: Then, Assad.

BEINART: And Assad is going to be forced into a political compromise which is going to lead to a stable, reasonably representative Syria in which the Russians are going to agree and the Iranians are going to agree, that looks like an extremely difficult kind of Rube Goldberg machine contraption. But the truth is the Americans are not focused on that right now.

HARLOW: We have to be.

BEINART: We're simply focused on ISIS.

HARLOW: Colonel Francona?

FRANCONA: He explains it so well. I mean, there are so many moving parts there and so many things you can't even predict because there's so many variables in this. It's easier now to focus on what we're doing. Let's just fight ISIS and let's see if we can let the Syrians do something that they want to do.

But how do we know what that's going to look like?

HARLOW: Colonel Francona, some military experts like yourself have said, especially in recent days, it is a mistake that the administration has repeatedly said no U.S. boots on the ground. No U.S. boots on the ground.

Is that a mistake to say that? I mean, I know politically what it does, right?

FRANCONA: No, I think it is a mistake because now you've told ISIS that they're not going to face the best fighters are on the planet. They're going to have to deal with, like, the jayvees as the president likes to say.

So, I think it limits our capability. It also tells them they're not going to be challenged as much as they would be normally. Ideally, we would have some U.S. boots on the ground in an advisory role, maybe calling in airstrikes and all that.

HARLOW: We have those -- we have now hundreds of military advisers, but Peter, you have been writing about this saying you think this should not be off the table.

BEINART: Well, I think some degree it's a phony debate because as Rick was saying, we to have boots on the ground. There's a much more narrow debate, about the degree to which our people will be in close support, calling an airstrikes. But I think that seems increasingly likely.

But I think one has to remember that war is also about maintaining popular support. The minute that you have large numbers of American troops beginning to die, a lot of Americans would start to question this whole operation. So President Obama has to keep -- has to balance our need for the best possible military operation with a recognition that this is a situation where popular support could really crater if the costs got too high.

FRANCONA: I think people would support it if they understood why. If they could see a valid U.S. national interest here. And I don't think we've presented that just yet.

BEINART: Exactly.

HARLOW: The NBC poll that just came out showed 72 percent of Americans think there will be U.S. boots on the ground, so we'll see what happens. Thank you both. Appreciate you coming in. Thanks for your expertise.

Coming up next, we're going to talk about Ferguson. We haven't talked about it in detail perhaps in a few weeks, but the unrest there is far from over, along with a sense of fear and anger. We're going to tell you what happened overnight in Ferguson.

Also, an attempted suicide -- an attempted suicide snarled air traffic in a major way over the weekend. Monday is a very busy travel day. It is hours away. Is Chicago ready? What's going on at those airports? We'll talk about it, next.

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HARLOW: Question number two for the week ahead: will Ferguson, Missouri, ever be the same? Last night, two police officers were fired upon. One was shot, another in nearby St. Louis dodged a spray of bullets. Police do not believe these shootings are related at all to the shooting death of Michael Brown. But tensions are clearly high.

Let's bring in our Sara Sidner who's on the ground in Ferguson. Also, political commentator Marc Lamont Hill who spent a lot of time in Ferguson a few weeks ago.

First to you, Sara. Tell us about these shootings and also the reaction you're getting from the people there in Ferguson today?

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, think it's important that you just mentioned that these two incidents are not considered to have anything to do with one another or the shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown at the hands of the white police officer, Darren Wilson. Very separate shootings according to the police, that none of them have anything to do with each other, however, whenever there is some sort of action by police here in Ferguson these days, it certainly ratchets up the tension, and we saw that when the Missouri highway patrolman tried to come out, the captain tried to come out and speak with folks. He's been here on the ground for many weeks in and effort to try to calm things down and also help take over the investigation.

And as he was trying to tell people what was going on, people were responding with basically, we don't believe you. And so there is a lot of mistrust that still exists in this community. It's existed for quite some time. The national public got to see it because of the incident here.

And as far as that incident goes with the shooting of the unarmed black teenager, Michael brown, you know, a lot of people in this community say they do not believe that Ferguson will ever be the same again. Right now, going through incredible growing pains, difficult times -- the tension not just between police and protesters, but the tension also between citizens, some citizens expressing that they can feel racial tension much stronger now than they did before. Let me let you listen to one of the residents we spoke to who lives near this community center and has been here their whole life who also has a lot of family members that are in the police department.

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CHRISTINE, FERGUSON, MISSOURI RESIDENT: It's scary. It's tension- filled. You're trying very hard to be politically correct, whether it's when you're shopping at Aldi's, even when you're going to church, you want to make sure that you're not offending someone because I think we both agree there are two sides to this story. Everybody wants justice. I just don't know what the definition of justice is for each person. So, you're trying to be cognizant of other people's feelings which then puts you on edge at all times.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SIDNER: And on edge is a good way to put it because in the black community as well, people say, look, we've been on edge a long time. We've been worried a long time. We feel we've been targeted by the police because of our race.

So, you have these issues that bubbled up in this country for decades and decades and they are bubbling over every now and then. The big worry of the community here is what is going to happen with the grand jury when they make their decision whether or not to indict officer Darren Wilson?

People are actually preparing for that. Talking about getting boards and talking about the fact they are treating that as if a hurricane might be coming to their town -- Poppy.

HARLOW: Sara, we'll be following it. Thank you for the report live on the ground today in Ferguson.

I want to bring in Marc Lamont Hill.

You spent time there. You and I talked during the height of the protests there. And when you think about the power structure there, the police force largely white, the city representatives -- a lot of people talked about whether or not the town can move on unless the power structure changes. Do you think that that has to happen?

MARC LAMONT HILL, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think it absolutely has to happen.

HARLOW: It does?

HILL: It absolutely has to happen. If the question is, can -- will Ferguson ever be the same? The answer is no. But that's no necessarily a bad thing. The question is, what can Ferguson become? If all the mobilization we see on the ground, all the protests we see on the ground leads to a structural change and leadership shift, then, suddenly, we can begin to see buy-in from the community into law enforcement and into governance and we'll see a different relationship between community and police.

HARLOW: Some people push back at that and they say it doesn't matter what color your skin is, you should be able to represent people of different races, different sexes, different religions, different beliefs, that it's not just about more black police officers, more black people in power.

At the same time, other residents on the ground said we don't feel represented. We're not talking. We're not communicating.

The police chief of the Ferguson Police Department came out this week in an interview with CNN and apologized. A lot of folks said if you're not going to resign, go home, we don't want to hear it. Don't people need to be talking? Because it is what it is right now. This is the structure now.

HILL: Right. Absolutely.

And there are a few things. You don't need to be black to represent black people but you need to have an investment in the community. I'm not necessarily suggesting if the town engages and asks for a new leader the leader has to be black, they have to just be committed to running a police department that doesn't militarize and doesn't leave a kid on the ground for 4 1/2 hours. I think white people are perfectly capable of doing that. Just not this police department.

And I think that's the problem, is that people don't feel buying that. Now, the town has responsibility in that. Most of people didn't vote. So, it's not to suggest that the town is blameless in this, but moving forward, there has to be a different kind of relationship.

HARLOW: And quickly before we go, the police chief apologized to the parents of Michael Brown, I'm sorry we left his body there, our team did for four hours in the middle of the street. He apologized to the peaceful protesters, saying, I'm sorry this is handled in the way it was. Some people said, too little, too late. Some people said, well, at least it happened.

Your take?

HILL: I'm glad there was an apology. It had to happen. It was absolutely unacceptable the apology had been given. But the fact this happened weeks afterward, the fact that this apology comes after a public relations department is involved in an apology makes people skeptical of the intention.

To me right now, proper care looks like justice and justice looks like a proper investigation. Maybe an arrest and seeing what happens moving forward.

HARLOW: We'll be following this and see what the grand jury decides.

HILL: Absolutely.

HARLOW: Thanks for come in this evening, Marc.

HILL: Pleasure.

HARLOW: Good to see you as always.

Sara Sidner joining us there, and Marc Lamont Hill.

Meantime, this other big story. Thousands of travelers flying in and out of Chicago have seen their flights canceled today and over the weekend, lingering effects of Friday's fire at a major air control hub. Former transportation secretary, though, Ray LaHood who's traveling out of Chicago O'Hare this evening himself says things are looking a whole lot better.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RAY LAHOOD, FORMER TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY: I think all of these airports that are impacted by O'Hare and by the FAA control center at Aurora, and at O'Hare, are back to normal from what everything I can tell. And it's going to take some time, but the backup system that the FAA has in place is working.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: Nick Valencia joins me now from a very busy airport right there in Atlanta. How are things looking for travelers there? Are they feeling the ripple effects?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, things are kind of a typical Sunday travel day. We saw the south terminal, you know, Delta is based out of Atlanta, so a very busy airport when you consider all the flights that come in and out of the south terminal from Delta.

Here at the north terminal, it's starting to slow down. We talked to travelers who were worried about perhaps that incident on Friday and the ripple effects, still 600 flight canceled, would perhaps impact them here.

We spoke to the communications director at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. He said things are running smoothly.

But the FAA saying that they're having to work around the clock to repair that control center in Aurora, Illinois, that was damaged allegedly by a worker there, Brian Howard of eight years. He got an e-mail or a notice that he was going to be sent to Hawaii. Now, we don't know if that sparked the incident on Friday, but we do know that it really caused a lot of damage to that center.

The FAA releasing a statement overnight saying, "After inspecting the damaged equipment at the Chicago En Route Center, the FAA decided to completely replace the central communications network in a different part of the same building to restore the system as quickly as possible."

Now, what does that mean? Truth be told, we really don't know. It could be days. It could weeks. But the good news is that the FAA and reports are making some progress -- Poppy.

HARLOW: Yes, we were glad to Ray LaHood that things are looking better in Chicago, because it's been a nightmare all that weekend.

Nick, thank you for that.

Coming up next in the NEWSROOM, the man accused -- the family of a man accused of beheading a co-worker just now speaking out. His mother says her heart is heavy. Hear the rest of her statement straight ahead.

Also, who will decide whether Jodi Arias lives or dies? Jury selection gets under way tomorrow. We'll have a preview, straight ahead.

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HARLOW: Yes, number four: when will the man accused of beheading a co-worker in Oklahoma face charges? It could be as soon as tomorrow, according to police. We are told charges against Alton Nolen will be -- include first-degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon. Nolen remains in the hospital at this hour.

Just a short time ago, though, two women identifying themselves as Nolen's mother and sister posted this statement on Facebook.

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SUSPECT'S MOTHER: This is a -- I would like to make a statement on behalf of my son, Alton Nolen. My heart is just so heavy right now. I know my son. My son was raised a -- in a loving home.

My son was raised up believing in God. That's what he believed in. My son was a good kid.

You know, I know what they're saying that he done, but I'm going to tell you this. That's not my son, Alton. There's two sides to every story, and we're only hearing one. His family, our hearts bleed right now because what they're saying Alton has done.

I want to apologize to both families because this is not Alton, but I just -- I'm praying that justice will prevail. The whole story will come out, the whole story.

SUSPECT'S SISTER: Alton, my brother, he's always been a great person, a loving person. He's always been a people person. He's never been a violent person.

So, for something like this to have happened, and we just -- we're all still in shock right now. We're all still in shock. We just ask that everyone out there pray for us, keep us on your prayers. We're praying both for the victims' families and the victims. We're asking everyone, keep us in their prayers. We thank you.

SUSPECT'S MOTHER: Thank you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: Well, in addition to killing one woman, police say that Nolen attacked a second co-worker at the Vaughan food processing plant on Thursday. She is in stable condition, though, recovering from numerous wounds.

Well, starting tomorrow, lawyers in the Jodi Arias case will question potential jurors who will decide her fate. Will she get the death penalty or spend the rest of her life in prison?

Arias was convicted last year of murdering her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander, back in 2008, but the jury deadlocked when it came to the penalty phase.

So, let's bring in jury consultant Rich Gabriel. He's the author of "Acquittal: An Insider Who Reveals and Strategies Behind Today's Most Infamous Verdict."

Thank you for joining us, sir. We appreciate it.

RICHARD GABRIEL, JURY CONSULTANT: Thanks very much, Poppy. Good to be here.

HARLOW: First question, obvious, everyone's wondering how do you find a jury, jury pool who does not know who Jodi Arias is? And does not know, frankly, a lot of details about this case?

GABRIEL: Well, you can. I mean, the truth is that this carries such a huge amount of pretrial publicity, not just in terms of the vast amount of media that's been put on the case, but the amount of discussion that has been during 2013 when it was all over the news, all over the state, and everybody has a strong opinion about it.

So, this whole vestige of impartiality kind of gets thrown out and then a really in-depth discussion will have to be had with jurors about even though you know a lot about this case, can you -- and this is kind of a false notion -- set it aside, or how are you going to be able to deal with the new evidence that comes into the trial and balance that against what you already know and your opinions about the case? It's virtually impossible but it's something the courts have to do.

HARLOW: This is the justice system, how it worked. The other jury could not decide. It's going to be up to an entire new jury now. Jodi Arias can take the stand and she took the stand for many, many days in her murder trial. Is he going to take the stand this time around?

GABRIEL: Well, it's a hotly contested point. The foreman from the last trial, William Zervakos, has said very clearly she should not take the stand. He thought she was a terrible witness. A lot of other jurors thought she was a horrible witness. But there's some good arguments to be made for her taking the stand because she was on the stand for 18 days in the previous case, and what happens after that time, even if jurors dislike her, they get attached to her. They start to become familiar with her.

And someone who you're familiar with, it's much harder to then say to them, I'm now going to sentence you to death. So there is some good reasons to have her actually take the stand just to create a relationship with the jury.

HARLOW: It's going to be interesting to watch. Again, that jury selection begins tomorrow and it is going to be very closely followed.

Thank you so much, Richard. We appreciate you coming in today.

GABRIEL: Thanks, Poppy.

HARLOW: Richard Gabriel, again, he's author of "Acquittal: An Insider Reveals the Stories and Strategies Behind Today's Most Infamous Verdicts."

A historic moment today for baseball. Lot of us were watching. An emotional farewell to one of the game's legends.

And then while New York says good-bye, London is saying hello to the NFL, but could football's time in Europe become something more serious? It's very complicated. We're going to talk about what's going on there, next.

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HARLOW: This just into CNN, the FAA is reporting that flights in and out of Chicago's airports will not be back to normal until October 13th. This is after an air control worker on Friday allegedly set fire to the main control hub that runs Chicago O'Hare and midway airports.

The FAA saying in that statement that we just got, quote, "Teams will be working around the clock to install equipment, run cable, and restore network connections at the facility. The FAA has set a target return Chicago Center to full service by October 13th."

So it's going to be a while for them to get those repairs done.

Big day in baseball today. Big day for a legend. Derek Jeter's farewell to baseball continues. Reads like a movie script, guys. Today at Fenway Park, Jeter got a hit in his very last at-bat ending a 20-year phenomenal career. The Yankees manager then took him out of the game.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jeter.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: Respect for a true legend.

Earlier I had a chance to speak with Hall of Famer Cal Ripken, Jr., he covered the game for TBS in Major League Baseball.

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CAL RIPKEN JR., TBS/MLB ANALYST: He, himself, says he wants to be remembered as someone who played the game right. Someone that, you know, did -- did his job and he says that he's not as talented, but I wouldn't beg to differ. He's as every bit as talented as a shortstop, but nobody outworked him, nobody played the game harder than he did. In a game that's 9-1, he'll play it the same way as a 1-0 World Series game. So it's wonderful to have a chance to watch him all these years.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: Our thanks to Cal Ripken for joining us.

Remember, TBS is your home for American League post season play. Both the Division and Championship series. It all starts Tuesday with the American League Wildcard Game on TBS. All right. Sticking with sports. Could an NFL team soon call London

home? The Miami Dolphins and the Oakland Raiders played today in London's Wembley Stadium. The game was a hit. It was a sellout. It's one of three NFL games at Wembley this season.

Let's bring in CNN.com sports contributor Terence Moore, he also is a columnist for MLB.com.

Before we get to the future of the NFL in Europe, will they have a team in London, I want to talk about the fact that the NFL is in a very difficult position right now dealing with all of these issues around penalties for its players, around domestic violence. Huge, huge pressure and focus on Roger Goodell, the commissioner, right now.

Do you think that all of -- the bad headlines, frankly, for the NFL, the commissioner, and some of the players is having an impact in London overseas, on the fan base? I mean, today's game was a sell- out.

TERENCE MOORE, CNN.COM SPORTS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Well, that tells you an awful lot right here. And you look at what's happening here in America. That does translate across the ocean and it has had no effect whatsoever.

There was a game the other day, a regular season game, that the 49ers played on the West Coast which was the most watched game ever in history of the National Football League during the regular season for a game that took place on the West Coast. That tells you an awful lot right there, Poppy. Not only in America, that does translate across America, across the world.

HARLOW: All right. So let's talk about the NFL in Europe, in London. This is one of three games that they're playing over there. This was a sellout.

Is this realistic from a business standpoint that you could actually have an NFL team based in, say, London? I mean, logistically, that just seems impossible how far they'd be -- they'd be flying back and forth all these themes for games. But, I guess, you know, you go in New York, L.A., you can do New York, London.

MOORE: Well, logic's got nothing to do with this. It's all about money, OK. That's number one. And number two, when the NFL owners and the commissioner want something, it's going to happen, all right? And this summer you had Roger Goodell saying, you know, big and bad that there will be a team in London within five to 10 years.

You had Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys saying that it's not a matter of if it's going to happen, it's a matter of when it's going to happen.

Now the Players Association would have to check off on a team in London and they've got reservations and for good reason.

HARLOW: Right. MOORE: But you've got to think that if the NFL is doing this much

talking about it, it's going to happen, and then when it happens it will be a disaster.

HARLOW: Why? Why? Why, why is it going to be a disaster?

MOORE: There are so many reasons. How much time you got? All right?

HARLOW: Not long.

MOORE: Let's start with this. You just put your hands right on it, your finger right on it when you start talking about logistics and timing. OK. You look at this time difference of five hours. The Oakland Raiders, for instance. The Oakland Raiders have not won a game in the Eastern Time zone in five years. What does that tell you? They've lost 16 straight games in the East Coast and beyond if you include the game they lost today to Miami.

The second thing is, NFL is all about players. Any team that will be in London will be the Jacksonville Jaguars which is not good. That's because free agents will not want to play for a London team for a lot of reasons, but I'll give you one big one, Poppy, here. NFL teams, precise training camp. They have this thing where they -- where players are required to be there during the off-season for conditioning and that sort of thing.

Some of it's mandatory, some of it is not mandatory. Unofficially not mandatory. There's not going to be many players willing to give up their springs and their off seasons in, say, Selma, Alabama, to spend it over in London away from their families. So there's a lot of problems here. It's going to happen, but it's not going to be good.

HARLOW: We'll be watching. Clearly know how you feel about it. What do you have against London? It is a wonderful city. I'm just kidding.

MOORE: Well --

HARLOW: I'm just kidding.

MOORE: I'll start with the fog and the -- and the shaky food and sometimes rude people.

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HARLOW: Come on. Come on, Terence Moore. I'm a big London fan. Thank you for joining us, sir. We appreciate it. Got to go.

Coming up next here in the NEWSROOM, would you trade love for companionship to pay the bills? Fascinating report by Lisa Ling, looking at that in her brand new CNN show tonight. Hear from the person who created a way for wealthy men to find their sugar babies.

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HARLOW: A big night ahead here on CNN. At 10:00 p.m. Eastern, Lisa Ling officially joins the CNN family with her new show "THIS IS LIFE." It is fascinating. And first up, a look at the world of sugar daddy relationships.

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LISA LING, HOST, CNN'S "THIS IS LIFE": A surprising number of Americans are hungry for an old-fashioned kind of love. Where men financially support women in exchange for companionship. And one man is capitalizing on that desire.

Here, if you don't mind, I'm just going to --

Seeking Arrangement founder Brandon Wade.

OK. Why did you start Seeking Arrangements?

BRANDON WADE, SEEKING ARRANGEMENTS FOUNDER: I was just having so much difficulties for dating life. I would try the normal dating Web site until I realized it was really difficult for me to stand out. And that's when I remembered something that my mom told me when I was growing up. Being the nerdy boy that I was, she said just study hard, focus on your school, and some day when you're successful, you can really use your success and generosity to turn your dating game around.

LING: So you started Seeking Arrangement because you were having difficulty with your dating life?

WADE: That's absolutely right.

LING: Brandon, you're a very nice, smart, guy. Isn't that enough?

WADE: Apparently not.

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HARLOW: You're going to want to watch that. The premiere of "THIS IS LIFE" with Lisa Ling, tonight 10:00 Eastern only right here on CNN.

Meantime, a really big story going on right now. Hong Kong is coping with absolute chaos in its streets. Police firing tear gas as they try to keep protesters in line. We're going to have a live report from Hong Kong. Straight ahead here in the NEWSROOM.

But before that, this. Information and communication technology, as you well know, is changing society in countless ways and includes our safety behind the wheel.

Richard Quest takes a look at "Tomorrow Transformed."

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RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): No sooner had we taken to the roads in cars, than we became all too familiar with the car crash. Before long, it became clear, making road travel safer was essential. If the motor car wasn't to become a menace.

ROGER BLIDH, RESEARCH ENGINEER: If you go back into the mid '60s, you will find that the fatality rate per hundred million vehicle miles traveled was about 5.5. If you compare that to today, you'd see that the fatality rate has dropped to only 1.04.

QUEST: Getting that number down in the U.S. required a rethink on vehicle safety. To understand what happens when cars crash.

Today, testing is being taken even further. At the Texas A&M Transportation Institute, they're able to scan vehicles part by part, to simulate crash tests.

Now we know more about what happens during car crashes than ever before. Tomorrow's goal is to avoid the crash in the first place.

(On camera): Picture cars that talk to each other. It's called vehicle-to-vehicle technology. And it's already being tested in some cities.

(Voice-over): Technology is making our cars smarter. It means human and machine can work in harmony. This ensures tomorrow's roads are safer for everyone.

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HARLOW: Riot police fired tear gas on angry crowds in Hong Kong. Thousands of pre-democracy demonstrators are furious over what they see as China's manipulation of the political process in Hong Kong. We know at least 38 people have been injured today.

Our own Ivan Watson was there when tear gas was spread among the crowds.

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IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Tear gas now. Breaking a truce here. We're now going to be enveloped in tear gas.

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HARLOW: Wow. All right. Let's go live to CNN's Andrew Stevens who's in Hong Kong now. It is early morning there.

What sparked this, Andrew?

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this has been building, Poppy, for the last week or so. More and more protesters coming out on to the streets. And it's all about democracy, the push for democracy here in Hong Kong.

As you say, there are fears here that Beijing is now manipulating behind the scenes who it's going to choose and how the choice of the next chief executive, the leader of Hong Kong, is going to be made.

It happens in 2017. A lot of Hong Kong are thinking they would have a full and free vote, they would be able to nominate who they wanted and vote for who they wanted. Well, Beijing has said you can vote for the people we tell you we approve who can -- who can stand for the chief executive.

This is what it's all about, full universal suffrage. Those scenes that Ivan experienced last night, certainly a lot, lot calmer here this morning. But there is still thousands of people out here, Poppy. And the idea is that the protesters who are mainly students and also from a group called Occupy Central, which stems from the original occupy movement, they want a campaign of civil disobedience which basically brings Hong Kong to a standstill.

As we know, Hong Kong is a financial hub. This is one of the key financial hubs of the world. Where we are, it's very close to the central business district where the finance heart beats loudest and they're trying to block this area to force the government to rethink this whole policy about how the next chief executive is chosen, Poppy.

HARLOW: We'll be following it very closely. Again, we see all the people still behind you there, Andrew. The tear gas did not disperse them at all. Thank you for the update. We appreciate it.

Also a very important story to keep you posted on. A natural disaster in Japan. A huge rescue operation under way at an erupting volcano as we speak. We'll bring you an update next.

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HARLOW: From Japan, an anguished father's words, please help us. His son is one of dozens of hikers missing after a volcano suddenly erupted. We know that at least 31 people are presumed dead at this hour. Rescuers carried the first four bodies off the mountain today.

Those teams are part of a huge recovery operation under way right now on Mt. Ontake. No one knows just how many people are missing at this point.

Our Will Ripley has the story from the base of a volcano.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): One by one, they're carried off the mountain. More than 30 people with no pulse, in a state of cardiac arrest. All of them near the summit when Mt. Ontake erupted.

Home video shows a giant plume of gas and ash surrounding and blinding these hikers in seconds. Security cameras captured Mt. Ontake rumbling to life Saturday. Its first major eruption in 35 years. More than 200 climbers came to Japan's second highest volcano for the peak of autumn viewing.

"So many people were near the summit," says this hiker. "Everyone started running but some were hurt and couldn't move."

The volcano's rising plume is disrupting air travel. Volcanic ash is raining down on hundreds of rescuers below. They face danger from nearly continuous seismic activity and the looming threat of another big eruption possible in the coming days.

"Please help us," says Kiyokazu Tokoro. His son and his girlfriend reached the summit just minutes before noon Saturday just when Ontake blew its top. Both are still missing. Now Tokoro sits on the floor of this evacuation center, waiting.

"All I can do is beg for your help to get us information," he says. "Please."

As each hour passes, desperation grows. Families are waiting for word on their loved ones who were dangerously close to a sleeping volcano that suddenly woke up.

Will Ripley, CNN, Mt. Ontake, Japan.

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HARLOW: That is absolutely devastating. We will continue to follow that for you here on CNN.

But ahead, a night of season premieres on CNN. At 8:00 Eastern, "BOURDAIN: PRIME CUTS SEASON 3," then all right 9:00 Eastern, Anthony Bourdain takes us to Shanghai for the premier of "PARTS UNKNOWN." 10:00 Eastern, "THIS IS LIFE WITH LISA LING," "Sugar Daddy and Sugar Babies." But right now Sanjay Gupta's "WEED 2: CANNABIS MADNESS."

Have a good evening.