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BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: A symbol of strength and a warning to the world as western and Middle Eastern leaders unite against ISIS, the raising of
this flag in the Syrian town of Kobani proves the group is gaining ground, but it's also making strides with its ideology and influence. This hour,
we examine the rise of the so-called Islamic State.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): My problem was I ran away to something uglier. I ran away to people, this Tunisian, who lured me into
the Islamic State. ??
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ANDERSON: Just ahead, we'll bring you an inside view of ISIS and discover how its promise can differ from its reality. I'm Becky Anderson,
and this is Connect the World live from Abu Dhabi.
A very good evening. It is 7:00 in the UAE.
As the militant group ISIS gains ground in Syria, its ideology appears to be gaining support from other militant groups in far-flung regions of
Let's get you the very latest. ISIS fighters continue their relentless attacks on the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobani. Images from the
eastern part of the city show the black flag of ISIS flying over some buildings as well as over a hilltop.
Well, coalition airstrikes are hitting ISIS targets, but Kurdish officials say Kobani -- in Kobani say that's not enough to stop the group's
battlefield advance. And a senior commander for the al Nusra group says his group and ISIS now share a common enemy in the international coalition.
And there are further signs of conflict that's spreading beyond Syria and Iraq, there are reports of clashes between Syrian al Nusra Front
fighters and Hezbollah militia in Lebanon.
Nick Paton Walsh joining me live from Beirut with that.
And Nick, there have been tentative signs that the two groups could be edging closer to some sort of reconciliation, if you want to call it that,
what do we know of the details of these latest clashes? And what are the implications for Lebanon and the wider region?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, let's start with what happened on Sunday in a town called Betall (ph) near the
mountainous border between Lebanon and Syria on the Lebanese side, a very porous frontier indeed.
Now what seemed to have happened is over a number of dozen potentially Syrian militants came over the border, many of them aligned with the al
Nusra Front, links to al Qaeda and also a target of U.S. airstrikes in the north of Syria, they crossed over and targeted a checkpoint.
Now clashes ensued there. That raid was in many ways daring so far inside Lebanese territory, but at the same time very successfully repelled.
Over a dozen, say local media reports, of those Syrian militants, Syrian- based militants, I should say, killed and potentially, say some reports, two Hezbollah militants as well.
But it's certainly feeds into a broader concern here inside Lebanon that potentially more radical militants may target posts here inside
Lebanon. There's a broader fear, too, here of ISIS.
Now while ISIS has not really had much of a presence here at all, there are moments where it seems to pop up. There are signs potentially.
But Nusra being targeted by U.S. airstrikes has in fact pushed them closer to the group that have for so long being their enemy within Syrian rebel
ranks, ISIS, and that's of course one very worrying potential side effect of the coalition campaign in northern Syria, Becky.
ANDERSON: Nick Paton Walsh on one leg of the story tonight. And Nick, thank you.
While people in northern Syria flee from ISIS, some of their rank and file are defecting. CNN's spoke exclusively with a woman who was coaxed
into joining the group, but managed to get out.
Arwa Damon has that story. And we do warn you, an image in her report is disturbing.
ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Beneath the veil is a young heart-shaped face. Eyes filled with guilt and turmoil under
perfectly sculpted brows. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): At the start, I was happy. I was carrying a gun. It was new. I had authority. I didn't think I was
frightening people but then I started asking myself, where am I? Where am I going? ??
DAMON: The 25 year old Hadisha -- not her real name -- is a former elementary school teacher turned member of the feared female ISIS brigade.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): We parole the streets. If we saw a woman not wearing the proper clothing, we would grab her.
Sometimes they would be lashed. ??
DAMON: She speaks longingly of the start of the Syrian revolution and elation of being a part of something great. But then came the violence,
displacing her family multiple times. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Everything around us was chaos. The Free Syrian Army, regime, barrel bombs, strikes, wounded,
clinics, blood. You want to tear yourself away to find something to run to. My problem was I ran away to something uglier. I ran away to people, this
Tunisian, who lured me into the Islamic State. ??
DAMON: They met online when curiosity drew her to ISIS social media pages. He told her that he was coming to Raqqa, that they could even get
married. So she convinced her family to move there. ??
Her cousin was already married to an ISIS fighter and a member of the junta brigade. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): She took me to the brigade headquarters in a hotel in Raqqa. She introduced me to the commander. She
had a very strong personality. Her features were very sharp. She gave you the sense that she was a leader, not an ordinary woman. ??
DAMON: A Syrian is in charge of carrying out the lashings. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): She's female, but not a normal female. She's huge. She has an A.K., a pistol, a whip, a dagger. ??
DAMON: In the same building as the brigade headquarters is an office specializing in arranged marriages for the foreign fighters and in many
cases, forced marriages. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Foreigners are very brutal with women, even the ones they marry. There were cases where the wife had
to be taken to the emergency ward because of the violence, the sexual violence. ??
DAMON: Burned into her mind, this horrific image she saw online of a crucified teenager accused of rape. It's not the only side plaguing her
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): The worst thing I saw was a man getting his head hacked off right in front of me. ??
DAMON: Then she found her husband. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): I said enough. After everything I had already seen and all of the times I had stayed silent
telling myself we're at war and when it's over it will be rectified. But after this, I decided no, I have to leave. ??
DAMON: This is the first time she tells anyone her story. She escaped just before the U.S.-led coalition air strikes began. Her family also fled
Raqqa but are still in Syria. She desperately wants to be her old self. ??
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): A girl who's happy and loves life and laughter. I want to be like that again.
DAMON: Arwa Damon, CNN, Orfa, Turkey. ??
ANDERSON: We're going to continue our coverage of the battle against ISIS later on Connect the World with me Becky Anderson. This conflict has
made partners of bitter enemies. The al Nusra Front joining forces with ISIS to fight what they call the crusader's coalition.
Meanwhile, have al Nusra in Syria is advancing along the Golan Heights, placing its bitter border foe Israel on alert.
While Hong Kong's protesters may have given some ground today, but they insist it's by no means the end of the Umbrella Revolution. Crowds
were distinctly sparse on Monday with protesters opening up a key road and allowing government workers to enter offices, but the fact that people were
even there -- and let me tell you, these are live pictures, so they are still there -- is and was a direct challenge to CY Leung's leadership.
He set a Monday deadline for demonstrators to clear the streets. As we speak, we are pushing towards Tuesday Hong Kong time.
Will Ripley joins us now from there. And one supporter of the protesters has said, and I quote, "we've been able at least to create
sufficient pressure on the government for the commencement of a dialogue."
I guess the question is when does that dialogue start and with whom? Is that how people feel? Has this been a success at the end of the day?
WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'll have to tell you within the last hour, Becky, and preliminary meeting wrapped up between the Hong
Kong government and student representatives, the ones who have organized this protest here that has shut down this major road and brought thousands
of people out into the street, essentially shutting down the heart of Hong Kong. That preliminary meeting is laying the groundwork for what we're
told now will be a series of public meetings where students and city leaders will sit as equals at the table to talk about the issues that have
led to this, issues that are in fact being discussed right now in this, a speaker's corner that has been set up.
People are waiting in line. They're coming here. And they're talking about their grievances, the issues about financial inequality, about the
high cost of housing, about anything that they want to discuss, the discontent of citizens who live in Hong Kong, the issues that perhaps have
led to a lot of these protesters coming out into the streets expressing their concern about the government and their desire to choose a leader
through a democratic process.
So the final details of those meetings still being worked out, Becky, but it does appear that a dialogue is imminent.
The big question, though, will the Hong Kong government with the blessing of Beijing be willing to give concessions that will cause this
movement to feel that they have at least achieved some sort of victory and possibly clear these streets.
ANDERSON: Will it -- yes, it's been interesting to see the video statement from CY Leung, the chief executive who we're talking about
whether they are prepared to concede at this point. I wonder, we have been able at least to -- sorry, the reportable from Matt, the displace of civil
disobedience is causing hassle to people trying to carry on with their regular lives.
Again, this in a video statement from the chief executive.
Not fiery rhetoric, but certainly not conceding anything at this point.
RIPLEY: Certainly not. And it seems as if the protesters are listening in small measure. A lot of people in Hong Kong, Becky, they walk
to work, to the government building right here using that pedestrian bridge that you see there. Even though the protesters had set up blockades on
that bridge and this one right here, this morning they allowed city employees to walk to work and so they were able to resume city operations.
And the sense that we're getting as we learn more about the strategy that Beijing and Hong Kong have in dealing with this, they want a peaceful
resolution. And it seems as if the protesters are now unifying a bit more to allow that to happen, to allow emergency vehicles, to allow people to
get back to work. And the city, in turn, is going to sit down and have discussions on the -- at a table side-by-side, face-to-face.
And that is considering that this is a city, a Chinese city, that certainly a lot of people out here feel quite optimistic about, Becky, but
we'll have to see what the end result is.
ANDERSON: Sure, yeah, a very good point. All right, Will Ripley still on the streets as he has been now for some days. Will, good stuff,
This is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson, live from Abu Dhabi where it is 12 minutes past 7:00.
Brazil's election battle goes on. One day after voters went to the polls, preparations now underway for round two.
And deadly march across Syria, ISIS closes in on a key city despite coalition efforts to stop the militant group.
ANDERSON: Welcome back. This is Connect the World with me Becky Anderson at 15 minutes past 7:00 in the UAE.
Coalition airstrikes targeting ISIS in Syria have not stopped the militant group on the ground. ISIS advancing across northern Syria. And
just today, the group raised its telltale black flag, as you can see here, over part of the city of Kobani near the Turkish border.
But the coalition airstrikes may be having another unintended effect on the battle for Syria, they may be uniting ISIS with one its bitter
rivals al Nusra.
Well, joining me now from London is Dr. Sajjan Gohel, the international security director for the Asia Pacific Foundation, a security
and intelligence think tank who is a regular guest on this show.
Sajjan, I say bitter rivals, many say ISIS was actually born out of the jihadi groups who, again, many say, received finance by people out of
the region that I am in certainly, the Gulf, possibly Kuwait and other places, not necessarily the UAE.
But as you surprised by their coming together specifically as we've seen in, for example, Lebanon against Hezbollah in the past 24 hours or so?
And how significant is this?
SAJJAN GOHEL, ASIA PACIFIC FOUNDATION: It is an important development and a major concern for the international community, Becky, because yes on
the one hand al Nusra Front and ISIS have been enemies, they've criticized each other, they have differences of ideology and doctrine, but what they
do have a commonality in, is they both hate the west even more.
And what makes it even more difficult now for the international community is that you had countries like the United Arab Emirates, Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait, assisting in air strikes against ISIS, but not against al Nusra Front. Now if there's a coalition between al Nusra Front and ISIS,
does that mean that those Arab countries do not get involved in the fight, because they've been reluctant to target al Nusra up until now.
ANDERSON: A senior al Nusra commander, Sajjan, told CNN earlier that his group now has a common enemy with ISIS, the so-called, I quote him
here, crusaders coalition, he says, and I quote, he "can't fight on the crusaders side against a Muslim. Allah said in the Koran that those who
support them become one of them."
Now that is going to score points so far as propaganda is concerned. And points, one assumes, for al Nusra who some might say haven't been as
effective in recruiting as the Islamic State have been.
GOHEL: In terms of propaganda and the use of new media, ISIS has certainly had the strategic edge, because their followers who come from all
over the world, including parts of Europe, have been able to use YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, to spread their message, to illicit a psychological
reaction. Al Nusra Front hasn't had the same ability, but they also have a number of westerners fighting for them.
And what's very interesting in the last few days is western nationals for al Nusra started issuing messages saying that they need to put their
rivalry aside with ISIS. Now perhaps that was, because based on the fact that they were getting information from their leaders, that ISIS and the al
Nusra Front were negotiating a formal truce.
That, of course, then complicates matters with al Qaeda and Pakistan, because al Nusra is connected to them. And al Qaeda has actually been at
battle with ISIS ideologically.
ANDERSON: And I want to talk about the spreading of the tentacles, as it were, the so-called Islamic State garnering a global following, it
seems, among other terror groups, Sajjan.
A look at a map here, 19 terrorist organizations in 13 different countries highlighted here in red have pledged allegiance to ISIS,
according to analysts at the Intel Center. Those affiliates include Boko Haram in Nigeria, and Abu Saif (ph) in the Philippines. You know, wide-
ranging. If I said it was across the world, it is almost across the entire spectrum.
Listen, there was always a cost-benefit, wasn't there, to airstrikes and the west getting involved, always needing, it was absolutely
transparently clear the regional allies who would legitimize this to a certain extent. But the cost-benefit analysis was how quickly and how
effectively from the air can we help out any ground troops. And of course, in Syria there aren't any effectively, and what is the cost to the extent
that clearly it will encourage other people to sign up for these groups.
Did they get it right in the end, did the U.S. get it right? Britain getting involved, the Belgians, the French, have they got this right or
GOHEL: Well, the west in many ways sleepwalked into this problem. When ISIS was spreading its tentacles, taking town and city in Iraq,
connecting the strands to their presence in Raqqa in Syria, the west wasn't paying enough attention and focusing on how this group was becoming a major
Now, airstrikes alone, it may cause some damage to their infrastructure, but it's not like airstrikes against al Qaeda in Pakistan.
You're not talking about confining them to a few villages, this is a group that controls swaths of territory across two countries.
And you mentioned about the coalition that ISIS is assembling. One of the key other groups that has been involved in the Pakistan Taliban, this
is an outfit that carried out an attack against the CIA unit in Khost (ph), Afghanistan, the plot in Times Square by Faisal Sazad (ph).
This is a group, also, that is gaining ground in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And just like the west sleepwalked into the problem in Iraq,
they potentially face another nightmare in Afghanistan and Pakistan if we ignore the growth of Pakistan Taliban.
And this is something that should be a warning to us, because we cannot have two fronts. One alone is proving so difficult.
ANDERSON: Yeah, second in southeast Asia and things will get very ,very tough.
There are many people, Sajjan, who say that you couldn't fill a ballpark with the amount of members of ISIS in and of itself, talking maybe
30,000 to 35,000, but when you add this wider coalition you get a cohort, which is clearly very significant for the time being. And always a
pleasure to have you. We'll leave it there.
Sajjan Gohel, your expert on the subject tonight.
Live from Abu Dhabi, this is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson. Still to come, I'm going to get you to Brazil where round one of
the presidential election is over and another round, well that one is just getting underway.
First, though, a coffee revolution: how Ethiopia is boosting its key export. A special report for you after this.
ELBAGIR: Cupping, a process of analyzing the flavor, body and acidity of brewed coffee, testing high quality and consistency in that sought after
According to the World Bank, Ethiopia is one of the top producers and exports of the best Arabica coffee in the world.
Hona Trading, an Ethiopian export company buys and sells these coffee beans. The company's main markets are Europe, the Far East and the United
And because Ethiopia is landlocked, the company has to transport its goods by road to (inaudible) port in neighboring Djibouti, but at a
TADESSE MELAKU, EXPORT MANAGER, HONA TRADING: We are paying about $800,000 to $1 million depending on the rate available annually for track
service only, for taking our coffee from Addis Ababa to Djibouti ports.
ELBAGIR: Cost is not the only challenge, speed limits, road accidents and traffic delays increase the number of days it takes to move the coffee
beans from the warehouse to port.
But that may soon change. A railway line connecting the country's capital to (inaudible) port is under construction. The multi-million
dollar project has more than 7,000 people working on it. And when complete, the railway line will cover more than 750 kilometers.
The railway is one of the many infrastructure projects currently under construction in Ethiopia. And when complete, it's expected to spur an
increase in trade that will shift the country's economy to middle income spaces by 2025, according to government projections.
TEKLE HADSU, ETHIOPIAN RAILWAY CORPORATION: We have raw material like (inaudible) like coffee. We need to transport these to abroad. So we use
ELBAGIR: Hona Trading currently exports 200 tons of coffee a day, but it hopes to double this figure through rail transport.
MELAKU: I am sure when the train will start operational, become operational we will have no problem of loading in as much coffee will be
loaded as much as the locomotive can load.
ELBAGIR: And to the international consumer, the increase in supply will hopefully lead to an even more affordable cup of Ethiopian coffee.
ANDERSON: This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson. The top stories for you this hour.
In Hong Kong, pro-democracy protesters are allowing government workers to return to their headquarters. While some demonstrators are ignoring
chief executive's C.Y. Leung's call to disperse -- and these are live pictures -- you can see that the numbers are much smaller than the crowds
that staged protests over the weekend.
The United States is considering stepped-up screening for the Ebola virus at airports around the country. It's something African nations in
the heart of the outbreak are already doing to help identify infected passengers. The screening would not detect people who are infected with
the virus who have yet to show symptoms.
In South Africa, British businessman Shrien Dewani has pleaded not guilty to orchestrating his wife's murder while the couple was on their
honeymoon in 2010. A taxi driver says he was paid to carry out the killing and to make it look as though the couple were the victims of a carjacking.
New video from Syria shows the ISIS flag showing over a building in the Kurdish city of Kobani near the border with Turkey. The radical
militant group has been pounding this key city for weeks. A US Defense official tells CNN there will be more airstrikes around Kobani.
Right now, much of fighting in Syria seems to be centered along that Turkish border, but to the south, the battle is also inching closer to
Israel. Ian Lee has that.
IAN LEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A tense situation on the Golan Heights. Fighting in the civil war inches closer
to the fence separating Israel and Syria. Israel parks a tank next to the clashes sending a warning: don't bring the fight over here.
Colonel Nir Ben David shows me the Syrian rebel advance, pushing closer to Damascus. "There, we hear the explosions, and we don't want
these explosions to come over here. Who will win the internal battle," he tells me, "is a matter of time."
On this once quiet frontier, fierce fighting almost on a daily basis. We travel to Israel's most forward outpost a few hundred meters from the
civil war. Israel took the Golan Heights from Syria in 1967. UN monitors, who kept the peace for decades, pulled out after al Qaeda-backed al-Nusra
Front kidnapped and then freed nearly 50 of them.
"The departure of the UN worries us," says the colonel. "They Syrian regime has lost its hold on the Israeli side of the border. It's lost its
Currently, the rebels carry the momentum. Soldiers remain on high alert, but neither side appears to want a direct confrontation.
LEE (on camera): The Israeli military is watching closely the battle behind me in New Quneitra between Syrian rebels and the forces of Syrian
president Bashar al-Assad. This is a strategic point because 35 kilometers in that direction is Damascus.
LEE (voice-over): The situation calms down -- for now. The tank returns home.
Ian Lee, CNN, the Golan Heights.
ANDERSON: Brazil preparing from another leadership contest after the presidential election produced no clear winner. A run-off vote is set for
October the 26th. Now, President Dilma Rousseff needed an outright majority, but she fell short of the 50 percent needed for a win, gaining
just over 40 percent of the vote.
Now, Aecio Neves overtook Marina Silva, who was considered a favorite for second place. The contest being seen as so important in Brazil because
of a sliding economy and rampant crime. Shasta Darlington with more.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN BRAZIL BUREAU CHIEF: The tightest race in years, and it's not over yet.
DARLINGTON (voice-over): President Dilma Rousseff came out ahead, with about 41 percent of ballots, but she felt short of the 50 percent
needed to avoid a run-off vote. The biggest surprise came in that she's going to be facing off against Aecio Neves, a centrist social Democrat
business-friendly candidate, who got about 34 percent of the vote.
And yet for weeks, according to pre-election polls, it was Marina Silva, environmentalist, socialist party candidate who was not only going
to make it to the run-off vote, but was predicted to defeat Dilma Rousseff.
DARLINGTON (on camera): Now, what we did hear over and over again is that it was the economy that was the big issue for many voters, many of
them because this big BRICS economy that had been growing so swiftly for years, actually fell into a recession in the first half of the year.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not going to vote for the current party, because it's definitely not thinking about strategic way to move forward
DARLINGTON (voice-over): Others, especially the poorest Brazilians in the northeast and the north, were more concerned that many of the social
benefits and government subsidies that were implemented during 12 years of the leftist Workers' Party, could be eliminated if Dilma Rousseff were
voted out of office.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Brazil needs to continue the social transformation that the current government is carrying out. We
still have a lot of poor people living in terrible conditions that need to be helped to start developing.
DARLINGTON: Brazilians also voted for state governors and dozens of regional and national lawmakers, but because the whole vote was
computerized, we had the results within a couple hours of polls closing. Now, Brazil can look forward to three more weeks of heated campaigning.
While Dilma Rousseff did win with a wide margin, these next three weeks could get pretty interesting, with many of the Brazilians who voted
for Marina Silva migrating to Aecio Neves.
Shasta Darlington, CNN, Sao Paulo
ANDERSON: So, what is the future for Brazil? In her article in "The Economist" published today, my next guest pointed out that Dilma Rousseff's
first-round result is the lowest any sitting president has won since direct elections were introduced in 1989, and a clear endorsement, as Shasta
pointed out, from the third-place candidate could tip the balance to Mr. Neves.
Helen Joyce, international editor with "The Economist" joins us now from London. I have to say, the turnout looks to be high. This electronic
voting meant that the result out fairly quickly. How surprised are you by the result?
HELEN JOYCE, INTERNATIONAL EDITOR, "THE ECONOMIST": Very surprised, not so much in the last couple of days, but more the way the last two
months has gone. So, if we go back to August, the third-place candidate, Eduardo Campos, died in a plane crash. And it was then that Marina Silva
entered the race.
And since then, it has just been all over the place. It's been like a Telenovela. People have been rising, people have been falling. And until
about a week ago, it really looked likely it was going to be a race between Dilma and Marina. And then, in the last couple of days, it seemed possible
that Aecio was going to squeeze in there --
JOYCE: -- and then he didn't just squeeze in there, he did much better than Marina.
ANDERSON: Of her opponent, and I'm talking about Ms. Rousseff, you wrote, "Mr. Neves has always been the darling of those who cast their
ballots in places like St. Paul, Sao Paulo's poshest private school, and his relentless campaigning," you said, "and an assured performance in a
critical televised debate on October the 2nd gave Mr. Neves a last-minute boost."
As opposed to the demise of Ms. Silva, who you describe as succumbing to, and I quote, "a barrage of attack ads from the incumbent's camp, which
accuse her unfairly of wanting to end handouts for the poor and being in cahoots with shady bankers."
I guess the big question now is who will Mr. Silva -- sorry, Ms. Silva through her weight behind? Because Neves really doesn't need an awful lot
in this second round, does he? And what would that mean for the future of Brazil?
JOYCE: OK, so you're quoting some reporting from my colleague Jan Piotrowski, who's our current Brazil correspondent. I was there until last
year, and now I'm editing back in London. But that's absolutely right.
ANDERSON: Thank you kindly.
JOYCE: Dilma Rousseff has managed to go on the attack incredibly successfully and effectively against Marina. Most unfairly, I must say, as
well, saying that she would do things like end these very important social programs that so many, tens of millions of poor Brazilians rely on. That
wasn't going to happen, and it's not going to happen under Aecio Neves, either.
So now, it's question, as you say, of what happens with the people who voted for Marina in the first round. Are they going to go to Aecio, or are
they going to go to Dilma. A clear endorsement from her would make a difference.
But her voters are rather younger people who are liberal on social matters, who are socially aware, and they're not people who've really seen
a home for themselves in Aecio Neves' party, the PSDB.
Now, they could find a home there, but that party has not in the last 12 years reached out to those people and convinced them that it is more
than the party of the elite. It is a party that is seen as for the rich, it's for the people in the southeast, it's not so much seen as the party of
the northeast, where Dilma is very strong.
So, three weeks is a short time for Aecio to turn around that perception. He has to try. He's got a chance. He certainly has. But
it's going to be very difficult.
ANDERSON: Well, they will talk the talk in the next three weeks, and then it will be incumbent upon somebody to walk the walk. What do they
need to do for Brazil next?
One of the most populous countries in the world with one of the biggest economies, which has now just dipped into recession after sort of
dizzy highs of some 7 percent growth as it was touted as one of the next big economies and part of the whole BRICS sort of setup.
What needs to happen next? You've got a sort of external -- an economy which we will be looking at from the outside looking in. And then,
clearly, problems internally as well.
JOYCE: Yes. During Dilma's four years in office, Brazil will have grown by a total of 6 percent, which is shockingly low for a country that's
a middle-income country and has many, many strengths, like oil, like lots of water, great, great agriculture.
Really, it has not lived up to its promise in the last four years under Dilma. So, it's actually rather surprising that she's done even as
well as she has in this election.
JOYCE: The reason is that those economic weaknesses have not fed through to jobs or to people's pay. Unemployment is still very low by
Brazilian standards and incomes have held up.
Now, the question is, could that continue for another four years? Could you continue with zero to one percent growth annually and still see
strong wage growth? I don't think so. So, growth has to return. And that means the difficult things that Brazil has been putting off for years
really need to be tackled.
Overly-bureaucratic regulations, overly -- a too large state, too much state spending on the wrong things. This is not the social programs,
they're good. It's poor state spending, poor direction on the state- controlled enterprises.
Those things need to change, and Dilma Rousseff is the person who's the incumbent, her party's been in party for 12 years. It's not clear how
she can convincingly demonstrate in three weeks that she intends to do things differently.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. Well, we've got three weeks, we'll have you back, and we will be discussing the new Brazilian leader at some point
soon. Thank you very much, indeed, for that.
ANDERSON: Live from Abu Dhabi, this is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson. Coming up, the fear of Ebola's spread is getting a lot of
attention in the United States. In Liberia, where America's first diagnosed case from, the fear, well, it is a lot more urgent. We'll visit
the place where that patient got the virus.
ANDERSON: Another American with Ebola is now back in the United States for treatment. Ashoka Mukpo, a freelance cameraman for NBC, arrived
in Omaha just hours ago on a specially-equipped plane. He was evacuated from Liberia and taken to Nebraska Medical Center.
The US says the country's airports might increase their screening procedures in response to the Ebola outbreak. This man, Thomas Eric
Duncan, arrived in Texas, you'll remember, last month. Days later, he fell sick with Ebola. He is now in isolation in critical condition. CNN's Nima
Elbagir traces the beginning back to the Liberia capital and the place where Duncan was before he boarded the plane.
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the house where Thomas Eric Duncan was renting rooms. The rest of his neighbors have
now all been put under quarantine. They can't go out, but we can come into them, as long as we keep our distance.
ELBAGIR (voice-over): Duncan was renting rooms from the family of Marthalene Williams. Williams' aunt, Anna Diah, told us she was in her
seventh month of pregnancy when she collapsed. Her family and neighbors rushed to help, Duncan amongst them.
Now, both of Williams's parents, her aunt says, have tested positive for Ebola and Duncan is accused of having left Liberia knowingly taking the
virus with him.
ELBAGIR (on camera): This door behind me is the room that Thomas Eric Duncan was renting here in this compound. It is the focal point of so much
of the fear and paranoia that's ricocheting around the world, and that room through that door is exactly how he left it the day he boarded that plane,
heading to the United States.
ELBAGIR (voice-over): Tete Williams is 12. Last week, she rushed to her dying sister's aid, alongside Duncan. None of them could have imagined
the consequences, she says, especially not Duncan, as he boarded his plane.
ELBAGIR (on camera): Did he know she died of Ebola.
TETE WILLIAMS, SISTER OF EBOLA VICTIM: No. No one knew.
ELBAGIR: Nobody knew?
WILLIAMS: No one knew.
ELBAGIR (voice-over): The leader of the local Ebola task force has more questions for Tete Williams. His is an unenviable task.
ELBAGIR (on camera): Are you trying to trace all of the people that were in contact with Marthalene? How many do you have already?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now, we -- according to statistics that we got only today (inaudible).
ELBAGIR: Almost a hundred people!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
ELBAGIR (voice-over): As America struggles to contain the fear of Duncan's diagnosis in Dallas, here they're struggling to come to terms with
the mounting death toll. Already nine others who came into contact with Williams are dead or dying.
Nine-year-old Mercy is being looked after by her 17-year-old brother, Harris. Their mother also was among the first at Williams's side. Days
later, she herself was rushed to the hospital. Mercy doesn't know this yet, but after we leave, one of the neighbors is going to take her aside
and explain that her mother is never coming back home.
PEWU WOLOBAH, EBOLA TASK FORCE: We have carried on this awareness over and over. We tell the people, no matter how much you love the person,
it is the health authority that are responsible to pick up the sick.
ELBAGIR: It's a lesson they've learned here the hard way.
Nima Elbagir, CNN, Monrovia.
ANDERSON: To learn more about the Ebola virus on the ground in West Africa, Anthony Banbury joins me now via Skype from Accra in Ghana. He's
the head for the UN Mission for Ebola Emergency Response.
And we would -- you'll have heard Nima's report. It is heartbreaking to hear the human side of this as we constantly discuss the statistics. Is
enough being done on the ground in West Africa, frankly, sir? We see people being flown home if they are lucky to American clinics where they
can get some help. Sometimes that works, sometimes it won't. What about in West Africa?
ANTHONY BANBURY, CHIEF, UN MISSION FOR EBOLA EMERGENCY RESPONSE: Much more needs to be done to bring this very complex crisis under control.
This is not a health crisis, it's a multidimensional complex crisis that needs a very robust, multidimensional response, not just in the area of
health, but very much logistics and operational support.
And also, mass social mobilization to get information out to people wherever they're living about how they can keep themselves safe and their
families safe and their communities safe if someone nearby is infected with Ebola.
ANDERSON: Anthony, the problem is this, isn't it? It's not only getting the message out, it is, frankly, admitting to the fact that the
facilities where people might survive because their mineral levels and their bodies can just be kept healthy, just simply don't exist in this part
of West Africa, or across West Africa on the whole.
BANBURY: That's a huge part of the problem, and a huge part of the effort now underway is to build a lot of Ebola treatment units, which
require tremendous infrastructure, very well-trained medical personnel, a lot of equipment and material. We're also, though, going to be working to
build community care centers where we don't have Ebola treatment units.
But everyone who gets Ebola needs to be able to go somewhere where they can get basic care and treatment to help them, but also to break the
chain of transmission.
ANDERSON: How are some 3,000 boots on the ground from the US going to help?
BANBURY: I think it's going up to about 4,000, if I'm understanding. That's what's in the press. And they're going to help a lot. I was just
in Liberia, I met with the commander of the US Joint Task Force, Major General Williams. The US is making a very significant effort on the ground
The challenge, though, is we need to have a robust effort that covers all the bases in all three countries. Because if we don't put in place all
the elements of a response -- logistics, health, social mobilization -- then wherever there's a gap, Ebola has the chance to spread.
And even if Liberia is completely cured of Ebola, if we don't do the same in Guinea and Sierra Leone, we're not going to bring this crisis to an
end. So, we need a massive international effort to put on the ground right away all the elements that are needed to bring this crisis to an end.
ANDERSON: Thank you, sir. Anthony Banbury for you.
Live from Abu Dhabi, this is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson at 7:53 in the UAE. Coming up, a festival of lights and legends. Come
celebrate the Hindu holiday of Dussehra in tonight's Parting Shots. That after the break, stay with us.
ANDERSON: Demons and deities for your Parting Shots tonight. We take you to India, where one festival has just wrapped up, and it is one of the
most colorful, not to mention important, holidays for the Hindu religion. Omar Khan from the CNN New Delhi Bureau brings us a flavor of the
OMAR KHAN, CNN NEW DELHI BUREAU (voice-over): For Hindus, Dussehra is one of the most auspicious festivals of the year. The goddess Durga with
ten hands is worshipped for nine days. The festival celebrates the victory of good over evil, retelling the story of how Durga defeated her enemies.
During the festival, all over India, you can hear drum rolls, chanting, devotional songs.
KHAN: Families from the event, there's food, shopping, and lights. Many devotees fast and pray. And of course, there's dance and song,
reenacting the stories from the Ramayana, the great Hindu epic.
Durga can be seen represented in many forms. Her iconic three eyes, the left representing desire, the right fire, and the central eye
representing knowledge. Here you can see all the rickshaw drivers. They come together for their own celebrations every year.
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