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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

Now the investigation begins as Canadians ask why a gunman killed an army reservist in downtown Ottawa and opened fire on Parliament Hill.

Now the Blackberry CEO John Chen tells me about his turnaround plan and why he will continue to make Blackberry handsets.

And we'll show you how Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg wowed a crowd at a Chinese university all by speaking Mandarin.

And we start in Canada's capital Ottawa where people are waking up after a nightmarish day. And the country's parliament is due to sit as

normal as authorities investigate what motivated a gunman to open fire on Wednesday. One person was killed. His name, Corporal Nathan Cirillo. He

was a reservist from Hamilton, Ontario. And he was shot while on guard at the national war memorial.

Now multiple sources have identified the suspected gunman as Canadian born citizen Michael Zehaf-Bibeau. They say that he had converted to Islam

and had a record of drug arrests. Chris Cuomo reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

STEPHEN HARPER, PRIME MINISTER, CANADA: We will not be intimidated. Canada will never be intimidated.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Prime Minister Stephen Harper promising justice after what he calls, a terrorist act on Canada's Capitol.

9:52 a.m. --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Guys, there's a shooter on the loose.

CUOMO: Shots ring out at the national war memorial in Ottawa.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Out of the way! Move, move.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All the sudden I just hear a shot, and, just, pow. CUOMO: The shooter, 32-year-old Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a Muslim convert. But

officials say he had a troubled past and was planning to fight overseas.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The guy came from the side and came out with a rifle and shot at the man, and then the guy went falling down.

CUOMO: The suspect fatally shooting Canadian Corporal Nathan Cirillo. The 24-year-old father was one of two soldiers standing guard. Then around

10:00 a.m. the shooter hijacked this car and continued his rampage just a few hundred yards away. Entering through doors meant for officials, he

starts firing inside Canada's parliament building.

(GUNSHOTS)

JOHN MCKAY, CANADIAN PARLIAMENT: I was literally taking off my coat, going into the caucus room and, we heard this boom-boom-boom. CUOMO:

Police scrambling to protect Canada's top officials, rushing them outside to safety. Some lawmakers in the building huddle in a caucus room piling up

chairs against the door to barricade themselves in as police exchange a barrage of bullets, with the shooter.

JOHN WINGROVE, REPORTER, "THE GLOBE AND MAIL": We are sort of flanking down the hallway. It looked like the guy popped out or they saw him. They

fired a lot, a tremendous amount of bullets fired.

CUOMO: Amid the chaos, parliament Sergeant-at-arms Kevin Vickers fires the fatal shot, but not before three others are injured. Vickers killing

the suspect near the parliamentary library, fellow officers calling him a hero.

JOHN VICKERS, SERGEANT-AT-ARMS, VICKERS BROTHER: When you hear those gunshots and know that your brother was in the middle of all of that, it

was a very surreal experience and horror.

CUOMO: This is the second time this week Canada waking up to headlines of terror. On Monday Canadian authorities say a radicalized Islamist hit

and killed a Canadian soldier with his car.

BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I had a chance to talk with Prime Minister Harper.

CUOMO: President Obama says we have to remain vigilant.

OBAMA: When it comes to dealing with terrorist activity, that Canada and the United States has to be entirely in sync. Not only is Canada one of

our closest allies in the world, but they are our neighbors and our friends.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: And that was Chris Cuomo reporting there.

Now we want to take a step back and give you a sense of the region and the events where they happen. They're all in fairly close proximity.

You see the National War Memorial and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. This is where Corporal Nathan Cirillo was shot and killed.

And from there, it's believed that the gunman went to Parliament Hill and entered the building. Now gunfire first erupted in the building's

foyer.

Now as authorities investigate just what happened, Wednesday's attack will no doubt raise concerns not just about Canada's enemies overseas, but

also threats from inside its own borders.

Now CNN's Atika Shubert joins me now live from our London bureau. And Atika, is what happened in Canada, is it a one-off attack or is it a sign

of a much larger problem of homegrown extremism?

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think unfortunately it's not a one-off attack. We've seen other instances of

these -- what's been described as a lone wolf attack: the Boston bombings, for example, were one example. Also the Woolwich murder here which is when

two young Muslim men, converts, hacked to death a British soldier on the streets of London.

And these are attacks that were carried out inspired by extremist Islamist rhetoric from abroad, but they didn't receive a direct order from

any organization to carry out these attacks.

And this is the hardest kind of a terror attack to actually prevent, because there isn't any warning. And it's very easy to carry out. In the

Woolwich killings, they simply bought a set of kitchen knives and meat cleaver from a local store. In this case, it's quite possible -- we don't

know exactly where the weapon was purchased, but it was carried out with one -- with one gun for example. And the Boston bombings, we know now they

were assembled basically at -- the bomb was assembled at home.

So, the most difficult part about these attacks is they're not under the instruction of an organization, which means there's no trail for

investigators to follow and that's why they're so difficult to prevent.

LU STOUT: And whether it's the U.S., the UK or Canada or elsewhere, I mean who are these individuals in the west willing to become violent

extremists? Is there a profile of a typical western jihadi?

SHUBERT: You know, one of the most interesting things is there is no one single profile of any young man -- and there are quite a few women as

well -- that engage in these sort of violent acts of extremism.

It's also important to point out that it's not always those who, for example, go to fight in Syria or Iraq that then come home to carry out

attacks. Quite often it's somebody who is at home feeling very frustrated because they can't go out and feel like they're making a difference in what

they see as perceived injustices. And in this case, in this case of Islamist extremists, those who see perceived injustices against the Muslim

world in particular.

And so then they lash out at home.

But there is no one particular profile. Often you'll find they're young men, sometimes they're older. Many of them are very well educated.

Some of them have maybe petty criminal backgrounds, but it's so wide rangings that there is no one profile.

LU STOUT: And Atika, you have closely followed and reported on the UK's response to homegrown extremism. In light of that, how should Canada

respond to what happened this week?

SHUBERT: I think every country is different. So it's very hard to say what Canada should do based on Britain's own experience. What I can

say is that what Britain has done, especially recently, is crack down on the number of terror arrests. We've just seen, for example, a number of

people arrested over the last few weeks, five of them young teenager men essentially in their early 20s who were arrested for purchasing a gun. And

in the words of the police, they are charged with hearing the call of ISIS and planning a terror attack inspired by ISIS. So that is a court case now

in the works.?

But it's up -- you know, it's really up for debate how effective these programs are. Denmark, for example, where I just visited, has a much

different program where they actually take in a lot of radicals, try to give them mentoring, find them jobs and an education, because they believe

that is more likely to prevent an attack like we saw in Canada.

LU STOUT: Atika, really appreciate your insight here. CNN's Atika Shubert joining us live from CNN London. Thank you.

You're watching News Stream. And still to come, an American jury delivers a long awaited verdict and one of the most controversial incidents

of the U.S. war in Iraq.

And a nation struggling to contain Ebola. We'll take you to Sierra Leone's capital where there are just too many patients and not enough beds.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back. You're watching News Stream. And you're looking at a visual version of all the stories we've got in the show today.

Now we've covered the situation in Canada. We'll be live in Ottawa a little bit later in the program. And we'll also hear from Blackberry CEO

John Chen about his plans to turn around the struggling handset maker.

But now a federal jury in Washington has convicted four Americans for killing 17 unarmed Iraqi civilians in Baghdad seven years ago. Now the men

were private security contractors for Blackwater Worldwide. One was found guilty of first-degree murder, the other were convicted of voluntary

manslaughter. But as Jomana Karadsheh reports, the verdict brings little comfort to those left forever scarred by that horrible day.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Ali Abdul Razzaq's life ended with a bullet to the head on September 16, 2007. Ali was not

yet 10. Ahmad Rubaie was studying to become a doctor. His life, too, tragically ended on that September day.

These are some of the faces of the 17 Iraqi victims of the shooting rampage in Baghdad's Nisur Square seven years ago in an incident involving

the U.S. security firm known at the time as Blackwater Worldwide.

The firm said the State Department convoy it was protecting was in danger and that it had come under attack in the central Baghdad square,

something eyewitnesses interviewed by CNN at the time said wasn't true.

The Iraqi government called the shootings unprovoked and premeditated murder.

The incident sparked a diplomatic crisis and was a turning point in U.S.-Iraqi relations. It also changed the rules on the ground for security

contractors who now operate with no immunity and under strict Iraqi regulations.

For survivors like lawyer Hasan Jaber Salman the physical wounds may have healed, but the memories haunt him, he says.

HASAN JABER SALMAN, LAWYER (through translator): No matter how you try to describe this, you can't do it justice. They killed 17 people in

cold blood. Families have lost a father, a son, a child. It's a tragedy I cannot describe.

KARADSHEH: Salman was driving to work when he got trapped in the traffic in Nisur Square. When the shooting started, like many others he

tried to flee. He was shot three times.

SALMAN (through translator): It was horror. People were terrified. People running out of the cars were being shot at. Anything that moved in

Nisur Square was shot: women, children, young people. They shot at everyone.

KARADSHEH: The defendants say they acted in self-defense.

SALMAN (through translator): I felt that there are people who care about this case. I felt the U.S. judiciary was interested, even if it's to

show the media that America is just and guarantees people's rights. I have trust that there will be justice.

KARADSHEH: For the families of the victims, the long wait for justice will not bring back their loved ones, but may finally mean closure.

Jomana Karadsheh, CNN, Baghdad.

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LU STOUT: International tourists won't be allowed into North Korea starting on Friday, that's according to two Beijing-based tour companies

that specialize in North Korean travel. They say Pyongyang is instituting the ban over concerns about Ebola. And the U.S. is adding another layer of

protection designed to stop the spread of the deadly disease.

Now starting on Monday, travelers arriving in the U.S. from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea will be required to monitor themselves for 21 days

for any Ebola symptoms, and to report that information to state and local health departments.

Now the Ebola outbreak has been mostly centered in those three West African nations. And according to the World Health Organization, they have

seen nearly 10,000 confirmed or suspected Ebola cases with more than 4,800 deaths.

And the closer look at conditions in Sierra Leone shows why this epidemic is just so hard to control. ITV's Dan Rivers reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DAN RIVERS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Entering the high-risk zone of Freetown's only functioning Ebola treatment center. It has 120

beds, but only the staff to tend to 90 patients. Doctors and nurses here operate in full protective gear, rehydrating Ebola suffers, only a quarter

of the patients are dying.

Among the adults, several children fighting off the virus and hoping to be declared Ebola free.

For 9-year-old Daniel, who arrived last week, this must seem like a prison. But keeping him behind these walls is stopping the virus

spreading. And the care he gets inside is life-saving.

The problem is this tiny clinic is serving a population of more than 1.3 million people. Two other centers might open next month, including a

British funded facility, but officials here say that's totally inadequate.

DONAL BROWN, UK JOINT EBOLA TASK FORCE: That's not enough. That really is not enough. I think we need something with something around 50

to 1,000 beds for western area.

RIVERS: How many do you have now?

BROWN: This is only 220 beds that is functional. 100, 120 beds (inaudible) beds.

RIVERS: You only have a tenth of what you need?

BROWN: Yes, you are right. We need help. We need help.

RIVERS: Ababatu Jallow (ph) is a nurse who caught Ebola while trying to save others. She says as a nurse I want this to end, because people are

dying. People are suffering.

She arrived here on Sunday. And since then, more than 100 people have been infected in greater Freetown. She's worried about her mother who

lives here in one of Freetown's poorest slums. You can see how vulnerable it is, children playing in open sewers, houses packed together.

The concern is for places like this: Ube Slum (ph) in Freetown, 35,000 people living without sanitation. If Ebola takes hold here, it could

spread uncontrollably.

That, a terrifying prospect for residents like James Songu (ph).

JAMES SONGU (PH), RESIDENT: If Ebola is to take hold of Ube (ph), well, it would be seriously disastrous for us, because we are congested.

RIVERS: Ebola might be the killer, but it is poverty and ignorance that is allowing it to thrive. Without more resources here, it is West

Africa's most vulnerable and will continue to perish.

Dan Rivers, ITV News, Sierra Leone.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: You're watching News Stream.

Still to come on the program, we talk to the chief of Blackberry John Chen. After the break, we find out how his turnaround plan is breathing

new life into the company.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.

Now there used to be a time when Blackberry was known as the Crackberry. It was the phone that every business exec had to have and just

couldn't put down. And then came the iPhone. And the rest of the story we all know it.

Now, in an attempt to hold back the tide, Blackberry has unveiled a series of new strategies focused on developing business software. They've

also experimented with a number of new devices, including a budget friendly model and another one that has the unique dimension of a passport.

Now for more on Blackberry's plan for revival, I spoke earlier to CEO John Chen. Now the business veteran was brought into the company last year

with high hopes that he could turn things around. And I started by asking whether he still has faith in Blackberry.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JOHN CHEN, CEO, BLACKBERRY: Well, Blackberry as a technology company will survive. And we'll do well in that. And now we have to find a way to

grow and capture more marketshare. So this is what I've been working on now. That's kind of a stage two of the turnaround.

My first stage has been -- I'm almost coming up to a year now -- my first stage has been to stabilize the company, to make money, to generate

positive cashflow and to put in the groundwork for the roadmap for the future and all the great technology -- and passport is one of them that you

see.

LU STOUT: The first stage was survival, it was pulling Blackberry out of that death spiral. Now you're focusing on growth. And the strategy

ahead for growth, is it going to be the mixture of hardware and software, right, because when you look at this strategy, Microsoft couldn't really do

it. Google with Motorola couldn't really do it. Apple has been able to do it. I mean, is this the right strategy for you?

CHEN: As far as the strategy of focusing both on software and hardware, I believe it's the right strategy. There (inaudible) and why.

First of all, we're aiming at a market -- we're not only aiming at kind of a software versus the hardware, we're aiming at the IOT market, the

Internet of Things market.

The second thing is we have a lot of technology, including security, that we have the -- you know, the world's number one market position and a

lot of patents of protecting it. I'm determined to use that to the benefit of our shareholders.

LU STOUT: How does Blackberry fit into the Internet of Things?

CHEN: Internet of Things is a big term, right. People talk about cloud computing and analytics and a lot of things with Internet of Things.

Everything talk about Internet of Things. And -- but we focus on securely communicating among all devices.

So one of the biggest projects that we have is on connected cars. We are designing about 250 models of the cars. It's (inaudible) dashboard,

so-called infotainment systems. And now we're branching into like the car control system, measuring your tires and all your driving habits and all

that.

And so the car will be automated and we will be connected.

But we are focusing very much on how devices, different components, talk to each other, talk to each other securely. Because I think security

obviously everybody understands the importance of it, right? A lot of people just kind of, eh, it won't happen to me. But a lot of people it

happens to a lot of people.

But more importantly, the privacy issues has really not been talked about. And one day the world will wake up and say, wait a minute, I'm

putting all this information out there and they're making decisions for me with unrelated and related pieces of data all about me. I need it to be

private like the health care, for example.

So, those are strategies.

So I'm really aiming at an industry and a trend not so much as let's do more hardware, let's do more software, not that.

LU STOUT: But the trends that you're emphasizing: security, privacy, Internet of Things and connecting everything altogether, it seems the focus

is more on software. And people have said -- and made the suggestion -- that Blackberry should ditch the devices and focus on enterprise systems.

How would you feel if Blackberry became an software-only company?

CHEN: So, there are a couple -- people always ask me that. It's a sensational statement if I could make, oh yeah, we'll ditch this or we'll

ditch that. First of all, my number one focus is to make money in the device business, OK. It's our first contact point with people, but more

importantly, it's a first gate of security. Notice all our phones are more secure, all encrypted and all tied to a server.

So you could remove that, then it will be as secure as things that we want to manage. So we want to make sure that we have the world class

security and something that people can buy.

Now they can also buy iPhone and Android or other people devices. We will secure those too. But that security level we can't go deeper into the

kernel because it's not something we own.

So, if you want end-to-end security in the best way the industry knows how, it's going to have to be Blackberry.

But if you don't want Blackberry devices, you could still use our software to manage all your devices, probably more secure than anybody

could do it.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: So, putting their focus on security and privacy. That was the CEO of Blackberry John Chen.

You're watching News Stream. Still ahead on the program, we will take you back to the capital of Canada. The lawmaker say violence won't stop

them from carrying out the nation's business. Stay with us.

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream and these are your world headlines

Now the Canadian parliament is due to sit as normal one day after a deadly attack stunned the nation. Corporal Nathan Cirillo was on guard

outside the National War Memorial when he was fatally shot. The suspected gunman then went to parliament where he was shot and killed.

Now some 200 Iraqi Kurdish fighters would soon be passing through Turkey on their way to Syria to defend the besieged town of Kobani. Now

the Turkish President Tayyip Recep Erdogan has just confirmed that number saying an agreement has been reached now with Kurdish fighters inside

Syria.

Now Kurds are fighting ISIS fighters who are trying to take over the town.

Now coalition airstrikes have killed 553 people in Syria since the U.S.-led campaign began exactly one month ago. That, according to the

Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which says ISIS fighters make up the vast majority of that casualty figure and says 32 civilians, including

children, have also died in the airstrikes.

Now four private security contractors who were for Blackwater Worldwide have been convicted by a U.S. jury for their roles in a mass

shooting in Baghdad seven years ago. One was found guilty of first-degree murder, the others were convicted of voluntary manslaughter. Witnesses say

the men fired recklessly into a crowd of civilians killing 17 unarmed people.

A snowplow driver has appeared in court in Moscow in connection with an airplane crash that killed the chief executive of a French oil company.

Total CEO Christophe de Margerie and three others were killed when their plane hit the snowplow during takeoff at a Moscow airport. Now the

snowplow driver denies allegations that he was drunk at the time of the accident.

And returning to our top story, Canadian authorities are working to piece together a terrifying day in Ottawa that ended only after a gunman

was shot dead on Parliament Hill. Now CNN's Deborah Feyerick joins me now live from Ottawa. And Deborah, what more have you learned about the

suspect, his identity and his movements.

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, what we know is that he's 32 years old. His name is Michael Zehaf-Bibeau. He was a recent Muslim

convert radicalized. Investigators are now trying to determine exactly how, whether in fact he came into contact with anybody, or whether he

simply self-radicalized over the Internet.

There's even the possibility that he was just doing a copycat crime after another man used his car to run down a soldier on Monday. All of

that is under investigation. He has a Canadian passport, that passport was confiscated. He had traveled to the United States about four times, most

recently in 2013.

But when that passport was confiscated within the year, apparently authorities believed he intended to go overseas to fight Jihad. And so

they confiscated it. And they continue to monitor him. The problem is, is they couldn't hold him because there were no charges that they could file

against him. He had no intention -- at the time, there was no proof that he planned to commit some sort of crime here in Canada or even any act of

terrorism so they had to let him go, monitoring him hoping that he would not try to travel outside of Canada to try to fight jihad -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: And Deborah, the suspected gunman, he was killed in a shootout. Lockdown has been lifted there. Is there any more danger to the

public?

FEYERICK: Well, it doesn't appear so. One of the reasons they were on lockdown so long yesterday, for more than 10 hours is because they

thought that there might be another shooter. On these streets behind me, these were all closed yesterday. You can see the war memorial is on this

side, parliament on that side. We're told that a group of lawmakers are going to convene at the war memorial and then they're going to be led by

the sergeant-at-arms up the street to parliament.

That is very symbolic. It was the sergeant-at-arms who was actually opened fire killing the gunman pretty early on. So when we see that

dramatic footage of officers running within the halls of parliament, a lot of the shooting that you hear were the officers responding.

Right now they're looking to see the kind of weapon that the gunman was using and where he got it. So they are trying to check and find out

where he purchased that firearm, Kristie.

LU STOUT: It was a very dramatic day, a deadly day. And even before the shooting, there as this jihadist chatter that had raised concern not

only in Canada, but also in the U.S. What more can you tell us about that?

FEYERICK: Yeah, that's exactly right. And this was just on Friday that Canadian authorities saw that there was a lot of sort of chatter

amongst radical groups. And so they raised the alert level here in Canada from low to medium. So that was significant.

It's unclear whether the chatter they were hearing was amongst lone wolves, whether it was just among sort of these you know extremists that

tend to talk together, whether it was official channels, whether it was social media. But again they felt it was significant enough that they

wanted to make sure that everybody was on alert.

And again they're going to be looking very closely, because they've got 90 people who are being observed, who are being monitored. The

question is, is how do you make sure that they remain on radar so that they don't admit these kinds of acts of terror, Kristie.

LU STOUT: And we have to talk about the victim, a young father, only in his 20s. What more have you learned about him?

FEYERICK: Yeah, this was a man -- his name is Nathan Cirillo. He's 24 years old, a young son who has just started kindergarten. And he was an

army reservist. And he was standing guard at the national war memorial. It appears as he was shot in the back. So it's unclear whether in fact he

ever saw the gunman towards him or whether he turned around when he did see him.

But he was part of an elite reserve unit. They're called primary war fighters. And they're the group that really comes in -- they're sort of a

deal closers. They close it with the enemy. And so he was there. It was supposed to be an honor and the weapon that he had by his side we are told

there weren't even any bullets in it.

LU STOUT: A deeply tragic loss. Deborah Feyerick joining us live from Ottawa with the very latest on developments there.

Thank you, Deborah.

Now as Canada mourns the loss of army reservist Nathan Cirillo, it is hailing the country's newest hero. Now sergeant-at-arms Kevin Vickers is

credited with shooting the gunman as fear spread through parliament. Now Vickers has held the post for eight years, carrying a ceremonial staff as

he performs his duties.

Now Vickers also spent many years in Canadian law enforcement. And earlier, his brother John Vickers spoke to CNN.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN VICKERS, SERGEANT-AT-ARMS KEVIN VICKERS' BROTHER: 28 years with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police he had not, from what I understood, used

his weapon in exchange of gunfire. And to think that as sergeant-at-arms for the nation in parliament in all places to have to -- to be involved in

something like that, as I say, is quite surreal.

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LU STOUT: Incredible act of heroism there.

Now moving on to some other news. And tensions are again running high in Ferguson, Missouri after the police shooting of an unarmed teenager back

in August.

Now protesters faced off with police in a tense standoff on Wednesday night. At least two people were detained after demonstrators threw water

bottles at a police barricade.

Now the protesters want officer Darren Wilson arrested and charged with a crime in the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

You're watching News Stream. Still to come, Facebook may be banned in China, but Mark Zuckerberg had no trouble getting attention on his trip to

Beijing. You'll hear why after the break.

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LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now all this year, CNN is revisiting its landmark series Cold War. In this week's episode, we meet an American man who is part of a top secret

team developing the first atomic bomb. But as you'll see, he wasn't very good at keeping a secret.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KENNETH BRANAGH, ACTOR: Dawn on the 16th July 1945. Allied scientists at Los Alamos leave for the New Mexico desert to watch the test of the

first atomic bomb. They have been working for years under a blanket of total secrecy. Ted Hall, at 19, was the youngest scientist on the project.

TED HALL, ATOM SPY: I was there -- or at least I was there in a truck or a lorry some distance away. It was considered to be a safe distance

away. I can't remember if there was any signal circulated that the test was about to be made, but anyway, the damn thing went off, and it was a rather

awesome sight.

BRANAGH: For Ted Hall, the Cold War had begun the year before.

HALL: I decided to give atomic secrets to the Russians because it seemed to me that it was important that there should be no monopoly, which

could turn one nation into a menace and turn it loose on the world as ... as Nazi Germany developed. There seemed to be only one answer to what one

should do. The right thing to do was to act to break the American monopoly.

BRANAGH: Others thought the same way. The KGB had several sources inside Los Alamos, unknown to one another. The scientist Klaus Fuchs and

Ted Hall both passed on details of how to detonate nuclear weapons by "implosion" -- a principle so new to Soviet science that there was no

equivalent word in Russian.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LU STOUT: Now tune in this weekend for the full episode of CNN's landmark series Cold War: Atomic Bomb Spies. That's this Saturday 18:00

right here in Hong Kong.

Now just days after the iCloud was apparently hacked in China, Apple CEO Tim Cook was in the country. On Wednesday, he paid a visit to the

iPhone factory in southern China, but that was less noteworthy than the trip he made a day before to Beijing. Now state media says that he met a

top Chinese official to discuss data security among other things. It's not clear whether those talks were related to the iCloud attack.

Now another tech giant in China this week: Mark Zuckerberg. He was in Beijing on Wednesday for a university forum where he delivered a big

surprise.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARK ZUCKERBERG, CEO, FACEBOOK: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LU STOUT: Did you get that? Speaking one on one with the host, Mark Zuckerberg said in Mandarin Chinese that he was happy to be in Beijing. He

quickly added that his Chinese was really messy and still needs a little bit of practice.

But then he went on to speak for half an hour entirely in Mandarin, even answering in questions on his plans for China. Zuckerberg said that

he wants to help Chinese companies bring in global clients through Facebook ads.

And that his company will hire more Chinese staff next year.

And that is news Stream. I'm Kristie Lu Stout. But don't go anywhere, because World Sport is up next. And Alex Thomas in London tells

us how Real Madrid embarrassed one of Europe's most famous teams.

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