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Luke Somers and South African Hostage Killed by AQAP; Chokehold Protesters Pour into U.S. Streets; Typhoon Makes Landfall in the Philippines; "Rolling Stone" Apologizes For UVA Rape Story; Winston Denies Sexual Assault Claim

Aired December 06, 2014 - 11:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: It is the 11:00 Eastern hour of the NEWSROOM, which begins right now.

An American hostage murdered by terrorists in Yemen just as the U.S. military rushes in to save him: a look at who the victim is and details on why the mission took a tragic turn.

Then demonstrators filled the streets from coast to coast bringing parts of several major cities to a standstill. And now Eric Garner's family is preparing to honor him with a nationwide event. The details straight ahead.

Then it's the interview you only see on CNN. Janice Dickinson, sharing why she is just now publicly accusing Bill Cosby of raping her.

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JANICE DICKINSON, FORMER SUPERMODEL: I remember being humiliated, disgusted. I had revulsion towards Cosby. And Cosby was a very powerful man and probably still is.

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WHITFIELD: Face to face with Janice Dickinson. What you haven't heard from the supermodel next.

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WHITFIELD: All right. We begin now with new information. We are learning this hour about the killing of American hostage Luke Somers. The Pentagon says terrorists belonging to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or AQAP killed Somers and South African hostage Pierre Korkie during a rescue attempt by Navy SEALs in Yemen.

U.S. officials tell CNN, a firefight broke out soon after a team of about three dozen commandos, mostly from SEAL Team Six descended on the militants' compound last night. They say the SEALs lost the element of surprise at the last minute and that is when the firefight broke out.

One terrorist ran inside the compound and shot the hostages. A U.S. medical team was able to evacuate Somers and Korkie and but they were badly wounded. And one died on the way to a nearby U.S. ship; the other on the ship.

Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel gave more details on the operation during a news conference in Afghanistan.

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CHUCK HAGEL, U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: I released a statement a couple hours ago about Mr. Somers' death. He was murdered during an attempt by American forces to rescue him from terrorist groups in Yemen. Our hearts are full of sorrow tonight. Our prayers and thoughts go out to the Somers' family.

There was also another hostage who was also killed in that attempted rescue. And our prayers and thoughts go out to all the families involved.

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WHITFIELD: President Obama explained his reasons for ordering the rescue attempt in a fairly lengthy statement released this morning. CNN's Sunlen Serfaty is live for us right now at the White House with more on this. Sunlen, what did the President have to say?

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, strong words from President Obama. He said in a statement just released this morning that quote, "The United States strongly condemns the barbaric murder of Luke Somers at the hands of al Qaeda terrorists during a rescue operation conducted by U.S. forces in Yemen in partnership with the Yemeni government. On behalf of the American people I offer my deepest condolences to Luke's family and to his loved ones."

And keep in mind this decision was made personally by the President himself yesterday here at the White House. And it is clear this morning he is feeling the weight of that responsibility. He also says in his statement that it is his highest responsibility to do everything possible for Americans.

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SERFATY (voice over): American hostage Luke Somers pleaded for his life in this video released by his AQAP captors.

LUKE SOMERS, AQAP HOSTAGE: I'm looking for any help if they can get me out of this situation. I'm certain that my life is in danger.

SERFATY: A freelance photojournalist Somers had been living and working in Yemen for years until he was kidnapped 14 months ago. His family broke their silence Thursday.

JORDAN SOMERS, BROTHER OF LUKE SOMERS: Luke is only a photo journalist and he is not responsible for any actions the U.S. government has taken.

PAULA SOMERS, MOTHER OF LUKE SOMERS: Please show mercy and give us an opportunity to see our Luke again. He is all that we have. SERFATY: Just last week the President approved a mission to rescue

Somers that failed -- raising questions whether he took too long to give the ok.

JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: What I would reject in the strongest possible terms is that there is any delay here at the White House in approving this mission.

SERFATY: Officials say approval involved a rigorous process, one developed by military planners, approved by the secretary of defense and then sent to the President's desk.

EARNEST: It was something that was approved by the commander in chief after that review in much less than 48 hours.

L. SOMERS: If anything can be done, please let it be done.

SERFATY: The terror group accused the U.S. of bombing its fighters and threatened to execute Somers in three days if Washington failed to meet its demands, which in the video weren't clear.

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SERFATY: And U.S. officials tell us that the first mission to rescue Somers really did provide crucial intelligence to help find him for the second mission. But clearly President Obama offering a big explanation this morning as to why made such a risky move; he says said the U.S. spares no effort to rescue Americans -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Sunlen Serfaty, thanks so much at the White House.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel also had a major military operation announcement while in Afghanistan. He said the U.S. will keep a larger force in the country for the first few months of 2015 than it initially planned. Hagel says Up to 10,800 troops will remain in Afghanistan at the start of the New Year.

A previous announcement called for 1,000 fewer troops. He says President Obama authorized the change in force size in order to provide military commanders flexibility.

From California to Massachusetts traffic snarled, bridges blocked and protesters demanding justice.

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CROWD: I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe.

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WHITFIELD: That was the scene last night as demonstrators poured into the streets, angry over the death of Eric Garner in New York and the failure of a grand jury there to indict the officer who put him in a chokehold. Protesters staged sit-ins and die-ins in more than a dozen cities. Boston was one of the largest protest sites with 1,000 people marching into Harvard Square.

And in some cities like Miami, traffic was tied up for miles as you see there. Demonstrations were passionate but mostly peaceful.

And in New York City demonstrators took a very unique turn. Hundreds of marchers poured into two of Manhattan's most popular retail stores, Macy's in Herald Square and the Apple store on Fifth Avenue to stage die-ins. They weren't challenged by police or staff in either of the stores and left peacefully after several minutes.

Joining me right now from New York Cristina Alesci. Cristina -- tell us more about how these store managers felt compelled to handle this.

CRISTINA ALESCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, there was almost no reaction from the stores. They know it sounds kind of crazy but at this time of the year these stores, which are iconic really in the city, really are accustomed to dealing with large crowds and it is quite possible that the managers didn't notice that these guys were protesters until they started laying down. And then they moved quickly because they know that if they stay in one place for too long it increases the likelihood that police are engaged in -- that arrests ensue. So it wasn't really an issue.

And last night overall the protests were kind of tame. You know, over the last two days in New York, over the last three days we've seen a lot more people in the street. Yesterday the weather wasn't really that great. So that reduced the number of people on the streets.

And as soon as the police detention vans showed up the crowds seemed to disperse pretty quickly. In fact there were only 20 arrests last night. But let's keep in mind these protests are organized and they are professional.

Last night there were pamphlets being handed out by the protesters that listed out demands, one of which that all of the officers involved in Eric Garner's death should be fired. The other demand is that the New York attorney general should launch a special examination into excessive use of police force. That is just a couple of their demands.

Also this morning we had Eric Garner's mother talk about the tenor of the protests here in New York. Take a listen.

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GWEN CARR, ERIC GARNER'S MOTHER: They were walking by and I looked out the window because I was so amazed. I was so overjoyed. And one fellow recognized me. It was a white guy. He recognized me. He said there is Eric Garner's mother. He came over to hug me. And then everybody else followed. They just came and wanted to take pictures and I was just so proud of that crowd. And it just warmed my heart. They say oh we're sorry we're sticking you in traffic. I told them don't worry about it. Do what you have to do.

(END VIDEO CLIP) ALESCI: So there you have it. And actually there should be a small gathering of people today as Eric Garner's family actually heads to the site of his death to lay a wreath. So we have that going on today. But as for more protests we're still monitoring social media to see what actions are planned for today and this evening in New York.

WHITFIELD: Ok. Cristina, thank you so much in New York -- appreciate it.

All right. Coming up, "Rolling Stone" magazine apologizing for their bomb shell article about alleged rapes at UVA. The fraternity at the center of the article providing new reaction to CNN -- that's next.

Also ahead a typhoon slamming into land with winds of nearly 80 miles per hour. We're live on the ground in the Philippines where people are bracing for disaster.

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WHITFIELD: "Rolling Stone" magazine is apologizing for its bombshell article on alleged rape on the University of Virginia campus. The article titled "A Rape on Campus" described a frat house gang rape of a woman named Jackie and it took UVA to task for failing to respond to the alleged sexual assault. "Rolling Stone" never talked to any of the men Jackie named as her attacker.

And now "Rolling Stone" has put an apology on its Web site saying quote, "We were trying to be sensitive to the unfair shame and humiliation many women feel after a sexual assault and now regret the decision to not contact the alleged assaulters to get their account. We are taking seriously -- taking this seriously and apologize to anyone who was affected by the story." End quote.

I want to go to CNN's Sara Ganim who is on UVA's campus. Sara -- we just got that statement also from the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity. And what was said?

SARA GANIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right Fredricka. Just a few minutes ago we got an updated statement from the spokesperson for the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity saying that this fraternity and university officials actually contacted Charlottesville police and were working with them weeks before the article came out about this specific allegation.

I want to read more of that statement Fred while I have it here. It says, "While individual undergraduate members of the chapter were contacted by the 'Rolling Stone' writer to comment on the, quote, 'gang rape' at Phi Psi they provided no information because they had none to provide. The allegations were as surprising and shocking to them as they were to everyone else. To my knowledge no member was contacted by the 'Rolling Stone' fact checkers."

Now Fred, this is coming like you said a day after "Rolling Stone" appears to be dialing back, stepping away from their reporting on that explosive story and also stepping back from the woman who was at the center of that piece.

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GANIM (voice over): After an article that prompted outrage at the University of Virginia, "Rolling Stone" magazine has apologized for discrepancies about an alleged gang rape on the Charlottesville campus. "Rolling Stone" editors say they made the choice not to contact key figures in alleged attack on Jackie, the woman who was the subject of the article for fear of retaliation against her.

The magazine said, "In the face of new information there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie's account. And we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced."

The article also chronicled the school's failure to respond to that alleged assault which in turn prompted a UVA suspension of all fraternity activities until January and a zero tolerance policy towards sexual assault cases.

TERESA SULLIVAN, PRESIDENT, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: We must find where it hides out and root it out.

GANIM: According to the magazine Jackie claimed she was raped by seven men during a party at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house. However the fraternity says there was no party the night of the alleged attack in September 2012. And the chapter's lawyer says he has the records to prove it. He also discredits other parts of the story.

In the meantime Jackie's friends and supporters are left confused. They still believe Jackie experienced a trauma but the new contradictory information has left them questioning what really might have happened to Jackie.

The "Washington Post" talked to Jackie who stands by her story. She told the "Post", "I never asked for this. What bothers me is that so many people act like it didn't happen."

Despite the latest developments in the story, students still turned out at a campus vigil determined to keep the focus on combating sexual assaults against women.

ANNE LEISTER, UVA STUDENT: It is terrible that they are going against her now and placing irresponsibility upon her as someone who's guilty or someone who's untrustworthy because I feel that they should have known from the beginning publishing that story that it was something that they could never know exactly what happened. And again that is not the single issue here. The issue is the wider problem of sexual assault on college campuses.

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GANIM: Now Fred, I just want to run through some of those discrepancies as described to us from the fraternity's attorney -- some interesting facts. They say that there was no party the night that Jackie describes being raped. That was in September 2012. That the man who she says orchestrated the attack -- that he was not a member. According to the lawyer he was not a member of Phi Psi fraternity.

That there was no side staircase that she describes in the story as walking down inside the house before she exits through a side door. The attorney says that does not exist. And finally, that there were no pledges during that time of year.

Now Fred, just one quick thing; I think it's important to say what isn't being disputed here and that is the university's overall response to sexual assaults on campus. The university has admitted that it has never expelled a student for sexual assault even when that student admitted to it. And survivors who I've talked to here on campus as well as fraternity leaders and (inaudible) have said that's where the focus should be; that the stories of those survivors should not be discredited because of this -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Sara Ganim, thanks so much from UVA campus.

Let's bring in CNN legal analyst Joey Jackson and senior media correspondent Brian Stelter. So Brian to you first, "Rolling Stone" initially stood by its reporting -- I mean it was the cover story --

BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: That's right.

WHITFIELD: -- even though the other side wasn't printed. And the editors knew that. That is part of the process when reporter talks to editor before anything is printed. So how much of a blow to the magazine's image is this? Or does this also display that there is a breakdown in the process in which a story is printed, is vetted before, you know, it is in front of the readers?

STELTER: At this moment it is a crushing blow for "Rolling Stone" -- Fredericka. They have done so many excellent reports over the years, so many really important stories about important topics. You know, we think of the magazine as being a music magazine. But it's not. It is also a forum for deep investigative reporting about important stories.

But this is clearly a breakdown in the process. And they have acknowledged as much. There is usually a rigorous fact-checking process at "Rolling Stone" as there is at many magazines. But in this case they made a very conscious decision, a judgment call not to reach out of the other side of the story, not to reach out to the alleged accusers. It is not even clear if they knew the names of the accusers and they have acknowledged that was an error. They should not have agreed to Jackie's wishes not to have the accusers checked.

WHITFIELD: So Brian, that "Rolling Stone" is calling it an apology -- it is not a retraction.

STELTER: That's right. That's important.

WHITFIELD: But is this apology the prelude to a retraction? Is that where we're going? Or is it -- apology in essence (ph).

STELTER: More importantly it needs to be done by "Rolling Stone" and others. And I think that's why they haven't gone all the way. If they were to call it a retraction they would be saying that Jackie's story is false. And they don't have the evidence for that. I think what Sara was saying is crucially important here. That Jackie stands by her story and that many of her friends feel there was clearly something very traumatic that occurred. But because parts of the story are now in dispute they had to at least come out and apologize as they get to the bottom of it.

WHITFIELD: And then Joey, the alleged attackers were not named but instead there were nicknames in the story. And the woman who was described as Jackie also describes who, you know, her initial alleged attacker was, that he was, you know, third year. That he worked at the swimming pool as a lifeguard.

So how can "Rolling Stone" really defend itself here in also trying to protect the identity of people in the story?

JOEY JACKSON, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Sure. Fredericka good morning. Good morning Brian.

This is problematic for a number of reasons Fredericka. An important part of investigative reporting is to corroborate and confirm facts prior to printing them. So the issue then becomes, is it defamation. Have they in fact affected the reputation of people and has that affected reputation caused those individuals damages in their lives?

And so it all depends and turns on whether there is truth to this. Because an absolute defense to defamation or an illegal action is that it's true. But there are serious issues as Sara's report unveiled in terms of the factual underpinnings of this case. Did it happen? How did it happen? The logistics of what actually went on? And so we don't know.

But certainly there's serious troubles and problems that should have been certainly investigated. And so if there is negligence on the part of "Rolling Stone" with regard to their reporting not only might the individuals of that particular piece have a cause of action in claim but the fraternity in and of itself based upon the light in which it was displayed to the public may have a cause of action.

Because let's face it people were really taken aback and quite disturbed by all the details and how has that effected the fraternity. So to the extent that it may have, and this is untrue, "Rolling Stone" exposed itself to a great deal of liability potentially.

WHITFIELD: All right. Joey Jackson --

STELTER: Most importantly --

WHITFIELD: Go ahead -- Brian.

STELTER: -- most importantly, most rape claims are true. We should keep that in mind even if this one was not entirely accurate, most rape claims are true. And we should not let this story cause people to be more skeptical of other women's stories in the future.

WHITFIELD: And that is exactly what we're going to be asking a UVA grad who'll be joining us later on today.

Brian and Joey thanks so much.

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STELTER: Thanks.

JACKSON: Thank you Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: -- who was raped while she was attending school and that is one of the repercussions potentially that could come from this "Rolling Stone" UVA investigation and now apology. How much does it further impact victims who already have a hard time coming forward? Now what?

All right. Still ahead, hundreds of thousands evacuated as a typhoon slams into land with winds nearly 80 miles per hour. A live report from the Philippines next.

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WHITFIELD: A massive typhoon slams into the eastern Philippines. Typhoon "Hagupit" made landfall just a few hours ago. It hit with the force of a Category 3 hurricane near the city of Dolores.

Let's get an update now from meteorologist Karen Maginnis. So the area is still recovering from last year's very devastating typhoon. How bad is it this time for folks there?

KAREN MAGINNIS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, this ties with the strongest typhoon of the season, of this particular year. But 13 months ago it was the strongest typhoon, the strongest storm of any kind, in any basin, ocean basin, to make landfall. And that was just a hundred miles away from where we're looking at now.

"Hagupit" has made land shore about two and a half hours or so ago. We are looking at winds still sustained at 125 miles per hour. That northern edge, this northwestern quadrant really has eroded quite a bit. But the big problem will be the storm surge and the rainfall.

Yes, a lot of the areas are going to be battered by the wind but the big potential killer is going to be that storm surge. Here you can see Legazpi, and as we move a little bit further to the north, here's Manila. And Manila is very prone to flooding.

They're expecting maybe one to three feet of rainfall. So if you can imagine that along with the storm surge that could be as much as 15 feet. Now, they're looking at this gradually making its way towards the west and northwest. It has sped up just a little bit. So that is good news. But nonetheless it still has very strong, very deadly winds.

Here is what we're expecting as we go into Monday. Those wind increasing but still the big impact Fredericka is going to be that extremely heavy rainfall so flooding, mudslides, land slides and there have been mandatory evacuations. Samar is not a very inhabited island but nonetheless the tens of thousands of people who live there, they were already in some cases in temporary shelters. But now they had been moved even from those shelters away from where this made landfall.

WHITFIELD: -- situation. All right. Karen keep us posted on that. Thank you so much.

All right. She's a student who claims she was raped at a frat house in UVA. Now the magazine that published her story says their trust in her was misplaced. Will this keep women from reporting sexual assault on campus? A UVA grad who was sexually assaulted at the same frat house in that "Rolling Stone" story weighs in next.

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WHITFIELD: "Rolling Stone" now apologizing for that article it published about the alleged gang rape of a UVA student. The magazine's managing editor says, in the face of new information, there now appears to be discrepancies in the accusers account.

"The Washington Post" reported the woman at the center of the article is standing by her story. I'm joined now by victim's rights advocate, Liz Seccuro. She was sexually assaulted as a freshman college student in 1984 at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity at UVA.

That's the same fraternity mentioned by the accuser in this "Rolling Stone" piece. Liz also is the author of "Crash Into Me, A Survivor Search For Justice."

Liz, thanks so much for being able to join us. What is your reaction to this apology now from "Rolling Stone?"

LIZ SECURRO, AUTHOR, "CRASH INTO ME, A SURVIVOR SEARCH FOR JUSTICE" (via telephone): I have so many emotions from my survivor emotions to my journalist emotions and also being part of the piece and having worked with Sabrina for many months for my tiny, tiny part.

I think that what I can say most of all is I'm very, very disappointed in this turn of events. I'm not discounting that something happened. I also understand, you know, what "Rolling Stone" must do.

But I think there is a bigger question raised. You know, "Rolling Stone" is a venerable publication. They have fact checkers. They have legal. So this story -- and I don't really want this to become about journalistic integrity although that is very important as you and I know.

I think the conversation still needs to be about the fact that campus rape is very real. And I don't have to stand by my story because there are police records and medical records and there is one man who went to jail.

So you know, I think if we rush to completely discredit this witness coming forward, everybody has their own truth and way of coming forward and I understand why people are being critical of many parties involved.

But in my experience, I think what "Rolling Stone" is doing now is -- or what America is listening to is a feeling that OK, what I don't want to happen is all rape survivors are liars kind of thing to be happening.

And I don't want that. I think most intelligent people, what they are gleaning from this is that, you know, we made some mistakes. The journalist makes some mistakes. The complaining witness or survivor maybe embellished a few facts but I don't know. I don't know.

But I really think that it is very important for us to listen to our rape victims. But I think at the end of the day what is going to happen, more rape victims are going to go to seek medical attention. They are going to go to the police because the whole idea of this belief is weighing very heavily.

WHITFIELD: Real quickly then Liz, I'm wondering, you know, is it your fear or worry that rolling stone is buckling to perhaps any pressure from UVA or the fraternity, Phi Kappa Psi, that the article did not name or have the accounts from the alleged assaulters?

And is it "Rolling Stone" that in your view might be buckling to pressure or as you alluded to earlier, is it a problem within the editorial process of "Rolling Stone?" Is it an error that was made?

SECURRO: I don't even want to speculate on that because I'm not really a conspiracy theorist. I mean, I've seen on Twitter where a lot of, you know, people are alleging that Phi Kappa Psi's lawyers are alleging -- I can't give any credence to that.

I can only speak for myself and the disastrous way I was treated by the University of Virginia. And, you know, I think people are talking about the idea that it is an editorial problem. You know, in my dealings with Sabrina, she had to go to managing editors.

I was called by a fact checker and in the tiniest bit in that article, and the fact checker was amazing and spent great deal of time on the phone with me. So I don't know where this all went wrong. You know, I think I'm just as clueless as the rest of America.

But I do know that I think it puts journalist on edge and really tightening up their game. And that I think when you are dealing with victims of trauma too, it is very easy to get lost in a story where the person may not have the best recollection.

There are still discrepancies in my head because I don't have the best memory of that night as is chronicles in my book because I only thought one man raped me. And it turns out I didn't find out until 20 years later that there were three.

I had inkling, I could remember sort of doors opening and feeling more hands upon me, that sort of thing. It turns out there were three. I didn't know until a few years ago that there were three, and the case is still open. So that is kind of what I want to say. So let's not all rush to judgment on either Jackie or Sabrina or the university or Phi Kappa Psi. I think everybody needs to just sort of take it down a notch and calm down and let's see where this investigation leads. Let's see what happens next.

WHITFIELD: All right, Liz Securro, thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate your time and point of view.

SECURRO: Thanks, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, we're just now hours away from the ACC Football Championship and all eyes will be on FSU quarterback, Jameis Winston. But his focus this week has been off the field defending himself against code of conduct violations. What happens when big time sports meet big time controversy?

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WHITFIELD: Jameis Winston is the reigning Heisman Trophy winner and tonight he is leading his Florida State football team against Georgia Tech in the ACC championship game. But this week, he has also been in a spotlight for an accusation that he sexually assaulted a woman two years ago.

Florida State University and authorities in Tallahassee have been criticized heavily for how they have handled this case. CNN Andy Scholes is live for us at the ACC championship in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Also with me is Keith Reed, sports business analyst and former ESPN senior editor. So Andy, let me begin with you. Bring us up to date on where these conduct of conduct alleged violations in this case involving Winston stands.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS: Well, Fred, the hearing wrapped up on Wednesday. It was a two day hearing where Winston, the accuser and other witnesses came and they testified in front of a former Florida Supreme Court justice, gave their take on what happened.

Winston gave his account through a very graphic statement. He denied any wrong doing that night when the incident occurred. And I'll read part of the statement what he said to you. He said, "I did not create a hostile, intimidating or offensive environment.

In the short period of time that we were together, the accuser had the capacity to consent to having sex with me and she repeatedly did so by her conduct and her verbal expressions."

Winston went on to say, "Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape." Now Fred, the big question right now is when are we going to get a resolution from this hearing?

It is kind of murky. The school has ten class days to notify Winston of their decision. Now the semester ends on December 12th and it doesn't start up -- the spring semester doesn't start until January 7th.

So we are likely not going to hear a resolution in the hearing until sometime in January which of course means Jameis Winston is going remain on the field.

And even if that hearing -- if the resolution comes down not in Winston favor, he can appeal so more than likely Winston is going to be on the field for Florida State for as far as they go this year.

WHITFIELD: OK, and so Keith, how is Florida State in your view and even the Tallahassee community, how is this situation being handled?

KEITH REED, SPORTS BUSINESS ANALYST: Well, it is a difficult situation. I happen to believe that these allegations are very, very difficult for any university to handle.

I think the appropriate way for this to be handled and the way it should have been handled at the very beginning would have been for prosecutors and police in Tallahassee to be on top of this from the very, very beginning.

Leaving the discipline and investigation in the hands -- the discipline and the investigation in the hands of the university for something like a code of conduct hearing is a very difficult thing to do for universities, who really are not set up to handle this.

Florida State has been accused of not only handling this improperly, but really the entire community of Tallahassee, along with Florida State have been accused of not handling disciplinary actions or disciplinary transgressions against football players very well at all.

There was an incident not long ago with some football players, for example, shooting off Beebe guns in a very public area. There was an incident not long ago with a Florida State football player accused of stealing a scooter.

I mean, there's all these types of things. And Florida State has always been accused of not handling these things very well. I just happen to think that in this particular instance a sexual assault is a very difficult thing for a campus to have to investigate. And it shouldn't be left up to a campus to be the final arbiter.

WHITFIELD: And then Jameis Winston expects to go pro next year. And one has to wonder whether this investigation, this case off and on, how it was handled, all of that will impact, you know, his draft. If he, you know, becomes still an appealing player to any team, Andy?

SCHOLES: Well, Fred, five years ago, I would have told you, if he can play on the field, it really doesn't matter what you have done off the field. But after this last year with Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice, teams are going to be very cautious when it comes to college players coming into the draft.

It has some red flags off the field. Now Jameis Winston, of course, won the Heisman Trophy last year. We know he is one of the most talented quarterbacks in all of college football. So he is more than likely going to get a chance.

But all of these issues he's had off the field, whether it be crab legs, jumping on tables, shouting at the teams, gestures, you know, teams are going to take that into account. He is probably not going to be a high first round pick, but again, he can play on the field so some team is going to take a chance.

WHITFIELD: And then Keith, particularly the post Ray Rice kind of era of the NFL, will this impact him?

REED: Yes, it will impact him. I can see him falling to the bottom of the first round. I could see him maybe even falling into -- maybe not the second round but definitely lower in the first round than somebody would take him.

There are going to be teams out there who need a quarterback. The quarterback is the most important position on the field and Jameis Winston is going to be one of the top three or four quarterbacks that come out of college this year.

But the conduct off the field absolutely is going to have an impact on him. You can't believe that with everything that's gone on in the NFL this season, with high profile players involved in bad behavior, especially where it involves conduct against women.

That is going to be very difficult and teams are going to pay attention. So I think it will impact him in the draft.

WHITFIELD: All right, Keith Reed, Andy Scholes, thanks, Gentlemen. Thank you.

All right, then it is the interview you will only see on CNN. Janice Dickinson sharing why she is going public, accusing Bill Cosby of raping her decades after the fact.

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JANICE DICKINSON, ALLEGEDLY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY BILL COSBY: I remember being humiliated, disgusted. I had revulsion towards Cosby and he was a very powerful man. And probably still is.

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WHITFIELD: Entertainer Bill Cosby loses support from the U.S. Navy, citing mounting allegations of sexual assault. The Navy stripped Cosby of his honorary promotion to chief petty officer. Cosby served as a Navy hospital corpsman in the 1950s.

And in Los Angeles this week, Police Chief Charlie Beck said his department will investigate any claims against Cosby, even if they exceed the statute of limitations. The Cosby campus is fighting a new lawsuit on those very grounds.

The plaintiff, Judy Hew, says Cosby assaulted her, when she was just 15. Cosby's attorneys call it a failed attempt at extortion. Among the 21 women claiming sexual assault by Cosby, former supermodel and reality TV star, Janice Dickinson, she claims Cosby raped her in 1983.

Too afraid to report it then, she tells me, face to face, now she is determined to share her story, even if, she says, it means feeling victimized again.

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WHITFIELD: Thank you, Janice Dickinson, for having us in your home.

DICKINSON: It's my pleasure, Fredricka. Thank you so much for being here.

WHITFIELD: So I want to begin with what has happened in your life since you detailed the sexual assault that you allege of Bill Cosby?

DICKINSON: When I'm out in public, I used to be received from, you know, a lot of people as, Girl, you go, Girl, I've loved you on "America's Next Top Model," the Janice Dickinson show, now I'm getting a feel of contempt out of people, especially on my #janicedickinson Instagram. It's not what it used to be, before all -- before I came out and did --

WHITFIELD: And what do you mean by that?

DICKINSON: It's a feeling from people that probably want to protect Dr. Huxtable on television, you know.

WHITFIELD: So you feel like there's been some backlash against you?

DICKINSON: Yes, absolutely. The backlash, I don't appreciate, because I'm talking to you and everyone else from my heart and I'm giving you my side of the story and what happened to me with Cosby.

WHITFIELD: And this is a story that you were telling several decades after the fact. Is that why you didn't share your story in detail earlier, that you were afraid of the potential backlash? How Bill Cosby and his camp of supporters would react to your story? What has held you back all these years from telling this story in detail until now?

DICKINSON: I remember being humiliated, disgusted -- I had revulsion towards Cosby. And Cosby was a very powerful man and probably still is. You know, I trusted this man and I stuffed it. I compartmentalized it because I was embarrassed. I was afraid for my career, you know? I was very excited when I got a telephone call, you know, when I was in rehab from Cosby --

WHITFIELD: You were 27 years old. He was roughly about 45 years old at the time.

DICKINSON: I don't remember how old that monster was at the time, but I do remember that I was young, I was innocent, and I was very excited to get a call that I was going to be, you know, offered this job on "The Cosby Show," you know? And I went for it, I trusted him. He was a married man, you know, so how could, you know -- he wouldn't do anything to me.

WHITFIELD: So this was 1982. There was a lot going on. You're saying you were -- he reached out to you and did he say anything to you, did he promise you that you were at the time a successful model.

DICKINSON: Very successful model, working night and day for all the most incredible designers in the world, advertisers, runway, catalogs, I was a spokeswoman for a lot of very, very prominent, conservative clients.

That if they had known that I had -- that I was having -- that I had been raped or had sex with this man or the experience that had taken place, I was afraid for my career.

And definitely afraid, you know, that I would be looked at as like, that woman who was with a married man.

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WHITFIELD: Coming up in the next hour, I ask Janice about Camille Cosby sticking by her husband and maintaining her silence.

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DICKINSON: She knew that he was promiscuous. She knew that, but she stayed married to him. This is her choice. I can't speak for her. I can only say to Miss Cosby that I am sorry I had sex with your husband and he had raped me.

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WHITFIELD: Straight ahead, plus, all of your top stories at the top of the hour.

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