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New Video of Paris Terror Attack; Hollande Leads Tribute to Slain Officers; New Charlie Hebdo Edition to Hit Stands; North Korea Denies Sony Hack; Dow Ends Lower, Gives Back Huge Early Gains; Major European Markets Close Higher; Make, Create, Innovate: Speeding Up Diagnosis

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RICHARD QUEST, HOST: Yes, that is Donny Osmond ringing the closing bell, on a day when the Dow was decidedly topsy-turvy. Donny Osmond is

ringing the closing bell of the New York Stock Exchange to celebrate his --


QUEST: -- new album, his 60th album, and his 50 years in show business. Well, I thought you'd like to know that. This is what you

really need to focus on. The Dow Jones was up and then very sharply down. The day has been topsy-turvy whichever way we look at it. It is Tuesday,

it's January the 13th.

Our top story tonight: staring terror in the face. A new horrifying video that shows the moment police confronted the Paris terrorists.

What goes up comes crashing down. The Dow swings 400 points in a matter of hours.

And stepping up security. The United States is beefing up controls at airports nationwide.

I'm Richard Quest. We have an hour together, and I mean business.

Good evening. We begin tonight with the dramatic new video that's emerged of the Paris attacks. It appears to show Sharif and Said Kouachi

making a getaway after the massacre at Charlie Hebdo.




QUEST: One of the shooters is repeatedly yelling, "We have avenged the Prophet Mohammed." Extraordinary. The gunmen calm and collected.

They rearranged their armaments. They take their time getting back into the car. There seems to be no urgency. You'd never think for a moment

these men have just murdered 11 people in Charlie Hebdo.

And then, as they drive off, you'll see this in a second, they encounter a police vehicle. Let's stay with the pictures.





QUEST: Now, you see Sharif and Said Kouachi getting out of their car, and they fire at the police. The police vehicle rapidly reverses as they

come under fire. We know after that that the terrorists subsequently drive on, and to one of the wounded police officers, who is then murdered --

there is no better word for it -- in absolute cold blood with a shot to the head.

Fred Pleitgen is in Paris. Fred, we know the atrocity that took place. What does this new video -- what insight does it give us?

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it certainly gives us more of a feel as to what actually happened, and it

certainly also clarifies a lot of things. Because remember, Richard, that right at the beginning of all of this, there was a lot of speculation about

whether or not the Kouachi brothers, the two people who perpetrated this attack, might have had other accomplices at the scene.

You remember, we were asking that when one of the Kouachi brothers lifted his hand into the air, whether or not he might have been signaling

to someone else. Now we know that he apparently was saying they avenged the Prophet Mohammed as he was raising his hand into the air.

So, there are certain things that are clarified by this video. And at the same time, it also shows just how brutal this attack was and also just

how cold-blooded these two people conducted this attack.

As you said, at no point in time did they seem to be in any sort of rush to get out of there. It didn't seem as though they were trying to

escape very quickly. They still handled their weapons with a lot of calm. They reloaded their weapons. They checked each other's weapons.

And the other big thing that I think this shows is how badly outgunned the police was in all of this. Because you see the police car go in there,

attempt to confront them, attempt to cut them off as they were going down that street, but then at the same time, you see that they get out, they

fire at the police vehicle, and the police vehicle immediately has to back up.

And one of the things that our own Chris Cuomo said right after this happened last Wednesday, he said it was remarkable to see on that police

car how close together the bullet holes were both in the windshield as well as in the police car itself.

And it showed that there must have been some form of marksmanship. That these people were not using one of these weapons for the first time

but, indeed, were quite proficient at using these weapons. And now we can see that they were not only hitting this police car, but they were hitting

this police car in that way as it was driving away from them very quickly.

So, there's certainly a lot of things that this video shows. And quite frankly, Richard, it's also one of the few pieces of evidence that

investigators have at this point in time. Because of course the Kouachi brothers have been killed.

Someone else who might have been able to give some sort of insight as to what was behind all of this, what the networks were behind all this is

Hayat Boumeddiene. She has fled first to Turkey and now possibly to Syria. So it's unclear whether or not authorities will ever be able to get their

hands on her.

So, at this point in time, this video, certainly in the next couple of hours, in the next couple of days, most probably is going to play a pivotal

role as the authorities here attempt to reconstruct what exactly happened, trying to, of course, get every single detail that they can. It is

something that is going to be an important piece of evidence, I believe, Richard.

QUEST: On the core question of how these men, who were known to the authorities, had served time in prison in one case, they were on the no-fly

list in the United States, what are the French authorities, the police, the military, saying about why these men were not under closer scrutiny?

PLEITGEN: Well, I think at this point in time, the French authorities, quite frankly, don't have an answer for that. It was

acknowledged by the leadership of this country that there were severe intelligence failures in all of this. One of the things that the prime

minister said is that there must have been big intelligence failures, because otherwise something like this wouldn't have happened.

Not only were they on the no-fly list in America, but also at least one of the Kouachi brothers, possibly even both of them, went to Yemen

several times and met with the leadership of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. So, there were a lot of things where the authorities here

apparently tried to keeps tabs on them.

One of the things that the French authorities have said is that it's very difficult for them to keep tabs on all the radical Islamists they have

in this country simply because there are so many. It apparently takes 30 officers to keep tabs on just one of these people.

And so they said at some point they simply lost track because they didn't consider them to be what they call "tier one" threats, to be at the

top threat level. And that at this point is the only explanation. But certainly you can expect that there are going to be changes in the way the

French authorities go about doing things like this in the future.

QUEST: I suppose hindsight is a magnificent way of looking at events that happened a few days ago. But Fred Pleitgen, thank you so much for

joining us and giving us that perspective.

The French president, Francois Hollande, has paid tribute to the three police officers killed last week. The scenes at the memorial ceremony in

the French capital, they were powerful and they were poignant.




QUEST: President Hollande told the mourners that the officers died protecting their citizens, and he awarded them the Legion d'Honneur, the

Legion of Honor, which is France's highest award. The president maintained that in the face of grave violence, France is united.


FRANCOIS HOLLANDE, PRESIDENT OF FRANCE (through translator): France showed its strength, its force, faced with fanaticism. It displayed its

unity, faced with those who want to divide it. And expressed its solidarity towards all the victims of terrorism. To you, your families, I

can assure you that France shares your pain.

Clarissa, Franck, Ahmed died so that we could die in a state of freedom. It is what thousands of our citizens wanted to express when they

marched on Sunday throughout France.


QUEST: Francois Hollande. Of course, the entire incident surrounded the publication of Charlie Hebdo, the satirical magazine -- weekly magazine

printed in France. Now, millions of copies of the new edition of Charlie Hebdo have gone on sale on Wednesday, or at least they will. The magazines

have arrived in a Paris suburb for distribution. The magazines are under scrutiny.

Brian Stelter is in Paris, our media correspondent -- senior media correspondent tonight. Brian, we know what the picture on the cover shows.

Within the guidelines of what CNN is reporting on this, and perhaps you'll tell us those, tell me what we can say about it.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Well, CNN and other news outlets like CNN have had long-standing practices not to show

deliberately offensive images, for example, of the Prophet Mohammed. Depictions of the Prophet Mohammed are very offensive to some Muslims.

It's a strict taboo within Islam.

And so, that practice, which has been going on for years, has been extended in recent days by CNN and by other outlets, like the BBC and "The

New York Times" and the Associated Press.

But Richard, we have seen a number of news outlets, particularly new media outlets, websites like Buzz Feed, go ahead and show these covers. We

also saw "The Washington Post" and "The New York Post" show the new cover that will come on the newsstand throughout this city in just a few hours.

It does show a depiction of the Prophet Mohammed. It has a tear coming down his face. Of course, that's open to interpretation, but my

personal interpretation to that, Richard, is that it's showing disappointment and frustration and pain and suffering to see Islam, to see

Islam warped and defamed --

QUEST: Right.

STELTER: -- in the way that some extremists do. Richard?

QUEST: Brian, the -- "You are forgiven," or the statement that is also on that front cover, I believe. What do you interpret that to mean?

STELTER: That's right. "You are forgiven." Again, it's open to interpretation, but it could be a statement to these extremists who take

Islam and warp it into an unrecognizable form. It's going to be controversial when this is out on newsstands. And as you mentioned, 3

million copies are expected to be coming out beginning tomorrow.

We spoke to the editor of "Liberation," a newspaper that helped this magazine get back on its feet this week. The editor said maybe even more

copies will be printed, based on demand. I think a lot of people, even ones who completely disagree with the politics of the magazine and the

beliefs of the magazine, will be eager to buy it tomorrow, to take a stand for freedom of expression.

QUEST: Right.

STELTER: Right here behind me it's becoming --

QUEST: All right --

STELTER: -- the middle of the night here, but you see still people at this area here, and many of them have put up past covers from the magazine.

I think we'll maybe see more of those tomorrow, too.

QUEST: Briefly, Brian, it is worth remembering that to many people, before this incident, Charlie Hebdo was repugnant.

STELTER: That's right. Vile, pornographic. Some of its images have been called racist. And we've seen tomorrow's issue already. I can tell

you, Richard, there's a lot of provocative content in there.

But it's not just about Muslims. It's not just about extreme forms of Islam. There are jokes about the pope, there are jokes about other

religions as well. The magazine, as always, is an equal opportunity offender, and it's extraordinary that it's coming out tomorrow.

QUEST: Brian, good to see you in Paris for us tonight. Thank you, sir.

STELTER: You, too.

QUEST: From the French capital. Now, I need to bring you up to date. We've got some news coming into us at CNN. North Korea is now publicly

denying hacking the Sony Picture Entertainment corporation.

The North Korean UN delegate, An Myong Hun, said in his words, "My country has nothing to do with the Sony hacking. It is out of sense of --

to do that, and we are -- very want the US to provide the evidence." Basically, this is a line. He also said that North Korea had asked for

joint US-North Korean investigations.

Now, let me remind you, of course, the US, including particularly the FBI, all say the nature of the hacking, including the ISPs, the computers,

the addresses from which it came, are those used and have been seen as used as coming from North Korea and are in no doubt that it's North Korea.

Other people say contrary, and now the UN delegate from the country North Korea says it wasn't us. Richard Roth will be with us before the

program's over to put it in perspective.

One word sums up the Dow Industrials: volatile. Topsy-turvy, that's two words, but you'll get the gist. Why should there be a 400-point swing?

Paul La Monica is going to do duty and explain it. He'd better have.



QUEST: As I was saying a moment ago, North Korea has publicly denied hacking Sony. The North Korean UN delegate, An Myong Hun, said that his

country had nothing to do with the hacking of Sony, and he said it is out of a sense of duty, and that we want the US to provide the evidence. He

also said North Korea had asked for joint US-North Korean investigations.

You will remember, of course, that Sony was hacked. The enormous amount of material, embarrassing material about Sony, was released. There

was a threat of potential violence if the movie "The Interview" was shown. It was a mess. Finally, it was released.

Richard Roth joins us from the United Nations. So, Richard, the delegate says publicly, it weren't us.

RICHARD ROTH, CNN SENIOR UN CORRESPONDENT: North Korea said this, but this was, I think, the first public appearance by a North Korean official

since this huge story broke last month. And a press conference was called by the North Koreans. They always can be quite mysterious and

unpredictable at times, so we didn't know exactly what the topic was.

The major reason for the press conference was for North Korea to request that the US suspend this year military exercises it annually

conducts in the region there. And in return, North Korea says it would stop any nuclear tests this year, and that it could lead to major

consequences and good developments. No details given on that.

He really rejected any kind of questions regarding -- and there were questions about what did he think of the movie "The Interview," was North

Korea responsible for the hacking, what did you think of the Golden Globes television award show Sunday night where actress Margaret Cho was portrayed

as Kim Jong-un, and other lampooning of North Korea, but he did not go there.

He -- only at the very end, almost pulling teeth, the press were, for the diplomat, and he said, as you might have indicated, just a quote, "My

country has nothing to do with the Sony hacking. It is out of sense to do that, and we want the US to provide evidence." And he also offered for

North Korea and the US to have a joint investigation to find out the source.

QUEST: Right --

ROTH: But the US accuses the North. Yes, Richard?

QUEST: So, will anyone at the UN believe him?

ROTH: I don't think so, but I think there's room for maneuvering, maybe, on exactly who's hacking who these days. But I think almost here,

all governments are aware that everybody may be probing each other.

QUEST: Richard Roth at the United Nations. Richard, thank you. To the markets. What a day. What a day!


QUEST: The Dow Jones Industrials. Now, this is fascinating. You can -- you've really got to look at the graph to see it. There's a soaring at

the open, and the market goes up some 300 points or so. We open at around 17,650, we get up to 19,900 (sic). And then, as the day whereas on, it

falls off.

And then, at 278 points up, then it goes down, exactly at about ten to 2:00, down more than 130 points. And then -- if you come in here -- get

right in there. Look at this. You get a little blip about half an hour before the end of trade where it all seemed to have gone a bit funny.

By the time of close, of course, we're down 27 points, 17,613. Look at the way the price of oil moved, and once again, the oil prices fell.

This is from January the 2nd to January the 12th. We've gone from $57 -- oops, just help if I don't touch it twice -- it goes from $57, and we're

now down just about $46.

It's a six-year low. Brent is at $46 a barrel, 60 percent fall since June of last year. And at the same time, the UAE energy minister says OPEC

won't budge on the decision not to cut output. These are rum days in the markets, which is why we need to have Paul La Monica come in and explain to

us what happened. Good to see you, sir.


QUEST: So, we're up here. Why did the market turn turtle so dramatically at just before 2:00 this afternoon?

LA MONICA: It really is astonishing, because there doesn't really seem to be any rhyme or reason, other than oil. I think the market is

obsessed with oil right now. Oil prices were stabilizing at the beginning of the day, and that's why you saw the optimism. Also, good results from

Alcoa, which is the start of earnings season. So, I think that's why you had the Dow up nearly 300.

And then, slowly but surely, as this chart shows, all the enthusiasm faded away. People again started to worry about oil, because oil slipped

back below where it was yesterday again. And that just seems to be what is driving the markets right now.

QUEST: And this blip towards the end, which defies rhyme or reason.

LA MONICA: It really doesn't make a lot of sense. I think right now, you just have so many investors are nervous about everything. Besides oil,

Europe is another focal point for the next few weeks.

With the ECB meeting coming up, there was some big chatter that maybe Germany is still not onboard with quantitative easing. We know that that

is something that has been lifting the markets. Everyone's hoping that Mario Draghi is going to be the new Fed and pump all this liquidity into

the market.

QUEST: If we can't make sense of it, then we're left in a very uncomfortable position that basically says these markets are fearful, and

they were on a frolic of their own.

LA MONICA: I think that is a great point. When you look at just so far this year, pretty much every day, we've had a triple-point move in the

Dow up or down. Volatility is back, it's probably here to stay for a while. And I think that is making a lot of people nervous. If you're a

long-term investor, the good news is, you kind of ignore this and don't fret too much.


QUEST: It's very difficult --


QUEST: It's very difficult, because you're now thinking, is there something smelly in the market that I need to protect? Even if you --

you're right, if you're long, and you're a long-term investor. But even a long-term investor is thinking about rotation out of equities into bonds in

these difficult times.

LA MONICA: Oh, yes. And you're seeing that again. Bond yields in the US continue to fall even though we all know at some point, the Federal

Reserve has to raise rates this year. The job market in the US is getting better, so they're going to have to raise rates at some point.

But despite that, you have a ten-year yield on Treasuries below 2 percent. But that's better than Europe. Europe, they're extremely low

because of all the fear about deflation and recession there.

QUEST: And of course, Japan. Government bonds hit zero in the last - -


LA MONICA: You're talking about lost decades there, sadly. Yes.

QUEST: Good to see you, sir.

LA MONICA: Thank you.

QUEST: Thank you very much. The European markets, they actually rallied, if you take a look at how they traded. The best gains was the

Xetra DAX, which gained or so 1.5 percent.

In medicine, time isn't only money, fast diagnosis, of course, saves lives. And in a moment, the quick and simple blood test. It detects

problems in a flash.


QUEST: Make, Create, Innovate.


QUEST: The Ebola outbreak continues to take lives. More than 8,200 have passed away at the last count from the disease. And rapid diagnosis,

of course, makes a huge difference between life and death for the patients who are suffering.

One of the key tools for diagnosing Ebola and many other diseases is a blood test, and a company has discovered a way of speeding up the process.

Well, it seems maybe obvious, the patients need wait only hours rather than days for lifesaving results. Not surprisingly, such an invention, such an

idea, is a godsend, which is why it's this week's Make, Create, Innovate.


NICK GLASS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Blood. Absolutely essential for all of us, transporter of oxygen and nutrients,

but also traces of disease and infection.

GLASS (on camera): That's why we usually go to a doctor for a blood test. Getting results can take days or weeks. But the technology has

arrived to speed things up. We're now promised instant results.

GLASS (voice-over): Jerry O'Brien, a farmer's son from Cork in Ireland, broke with family tradition. Rather than working the land, he set

about finding a business opportunity in the health care sector.

JERRY O'BRIEN, RADISENS DIAGNOSTICS: We've invented a technology that from a single drop of blood, we can test for any disease or medical

condition within minutes.

GLASS: Looking at the old machines convinced him that there was a serious business in blood.

O'BRIEN: We looked at the gold standard piece of equipment. We opened the hood under it, and saw that there were vacuum tubes inside

there. Technology from the 50s and 60s. And that was a spark. We said, well, that's how we can apply and miniaturize the device.

GLASS: O'Brien started a company, Radisens Diagnostics, and hand- picked a small group of experts. And after six years of R&D, they came up with a prototype: Gemini.

O'BRIEN: It works in combination with a test cartridge like this. This is a cartridge that's pre-loaded with a drop of blood. This is then

loaded into the machine, and you just open the door like that. And then you press "run."

GLASS: Inside the spinning cartridge, tiny beads with a special molecular coating specific to the disease you're looking for are mixed with

the patient's blood. The beads and any disease molecules in the blood sample bind together to form long chains. Analysis of these under a green

light provides an instant diagnosis of how much disease is present.

The Gemini system is being developed at the company's base in Cork. The idea is that doctors will have different cartridges on hand for

specific disease. For example, heart or liver disease or diabetes. And with one of their major investors being the European Space Agency, its

first use could be out of this world.

O'BRIEN: So, we can give European Space Agency a device for testing astronauts, for testing not only there and then, but tracking their

physiology over their long stays in space in zero gravity.

GLASS: Back here on Earth, O'Brien is aware he's not alone. Other companies, like Theranos in California, are developing similar systems.

With the blood-testing industry worth over $70 billion a year in America alone, it's obviously a hugely lucrative market.

O'BRIEN: If you can get the diagnostic or the monitoring test there and then for the physician to look you in the eye saying, look, Jerry,

you've not been managing your health. When you come back in three months' time, I want to see better test results, people respond to that.

GLASS: O'Brien hopes to launch his product in Europe by 2016 and in the US shortly after. But for him, it's more than just a business.

O'BRIEN: It's about being able to offer better patient care. And if it was a case where a member of my family or a neighbor, whomever, could be

diagnosed quicker, that would have huge personal gratification.


QUEST: Make, Create, Innovate. Now, US authorities are worried about household products being made into bombs. The kind of explosives that

might only be caught by full-body scanners.


QUEST: Hello, I'm Richard Quest. There's more "Quest Means Business" in a moment when we'll be live in Washington where the United States has

stepped up security in the wake of new terror attacks. And we'll hear from the head of Daimler at the Detroit Auto Show. His plans to make Mercedes

the world's top luxury brand, how's he going to do it and what progress is being made. For the moment though, this is CNN, and on this network the

news always comes first.

The French Parliament has voted to extend airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq as the country reflects on last week's terror attacks in Paris.

During a moment of silence in the National Assembly, lawmakers stood and sang the national anthem.




QUEST: Earlier three policemen killed in the attacks were honored in Paris. The French President Francois Hollande awarded the Legion of Honor

to each of the fallen officers. In Berlin the German Chancellor Angela Merkel's joined a rally against Islamophobia. It was organized by Muslim

leaders who condemned last week's attacks in Paris and called for unity. It all follows a day after an anti-Islam march in Dresden drew a record

crowd of 25,000 people.

Boko Haram attacks are spreading beyond Nigeria to Cameroon. A five- hour gun battle between the Islamic terrorists and Cameroonian forces sent thousands into the north of the country, fleeing their homes on Monday.

The president of Cameroon is calling for international support, saying a global threat calls for a global response.

North Korea has publicly denied hacking the Sony Picture Corporation. Speaking to reporters at the United Nations, the North Korean delegates

denied any involvement.


MYONG HUN, DEPUTY PERMANENT REPRESENTATIVE OF NORTH KOREA: My country has nothing to do with the Sony hacking.


QUEST: He also said North Korea had asked for a joint U.S./North Korean investigation. Indonesian authorities are a step closer to learning

why AirAsia flight 8501 crashed into the sea as the divers now recover both black boxes. The plane's data recorder's in Jakarta where it will be


Pope Francis is urging religious leaders in Sri Lanka to work together in a post-war reconciliation. During a visit to the island, the Pope said

religious beliefs should never be a cause for violence. He will travel to the Philippines later in the week.

We have new developments in the investigation into the attack on Charlie Hebdo and the entire terrorist attacks in France. Bulgarian

authorities now say they have arrested a French man on terrorism charges. So from Paris we're now in Bulgaria where someone has been arrested. The

man was stopped at the border with Turkey -- over to the right of course -- and initially held on charges that he'd kidnapped his own son. A Bulgarian

prosecutor told "AFB" - "Agence France-Presse" the man had been in contact with one of the Paris terrorists.

Meanwhile, the search for the female suspect Hayat Boumeddiene continues. Now, you remember she was believed to have gone from France to

Spain then to Turkey where it thought she was last seen - well we know she was seen going through the airport in Istanbul - and then potentially down

into Syria.

Investigators are learning more about who may have been behind the attacks. New evidence is linking a man who was once al-Qaeda's top

recruiter in Europe and to training with al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen. You're starting to see exactly how all this comes together.

Jim Sciutto is following the investigation. He is in Paris with is. Jim, to many people listening, it sounds as if - many of our viewers tonight

will say, well, it does sound as if pieces of the jigsaw are coming into place that show this was far more well organized and structured than

perhaps we thought.

JIM SCIUTTO, CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely right, and very tied to all the groups that we are all most concerned about - ties

to al-Qaeda and the Arabian Peninsula, training for both of the Kouachi brothers who carried out the murder inside Charlie Hebdo. You had a

proclamation of allegiance from the attacker at the kosher grocery to ISIS. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean ISIS organized it. But, again, a

tie to that group, another group that Europe and America has been concerned about bringing terror threats to the West from the training grounds where

they've been fighting in Iraq and Syria - that's a problem. And now you have a tie to core al-Qaeda in that one of their key recruiters has now

been tied to the Kouachi brothers as well. You know, this is a bad character, Richard. He's someone who had been put in prison in France for

plotting to blow up the U.S. Embassy here. But yet again, someone despite having a rap sheet like that was allowed to go free and now he is at large.

It shows the real problem you have as you had with the Charlie Hebdo attackers under surveillance for a time, for a number of years, then off

surveillance as of last summer and then they carry out these attacks. It's a difficult thing. Counter-terror and intelligence is a difficult thing

and, you know, --

QUEST: Right.

SCIUTTO: -- this web was clearly very big and they're beginning to track it.

QUEST: But Jim, we still don't know whether or not this attack was master-minded and directed from - well, probably not ISIS, but al-Qaeda in

the Arab Peninsula. We still don't know whether that or are these - the dead terrorists - just hiding under the skirts and umbrella.

SCIUTTO: It's, you know, I think one thing we should keep in mind is that you could have a whole range of possibilities here. You could have

absolute direction, funding, planning from one of these big groups overseas ranging all the way to the other end - a lone wolf attack, someone's

inspired, carries it out on their own. At a minimum, there was some direction, some training. We know that the Kouachi brothers went to Yemen,

they got some training there. The police here are now trying to chase the money as always is important. Did they get funding from a group such as

al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula? There's also talk that one of them met Anwar al-Awlaki, the famous, well-known American cleric before he was

killed in the American drone strike. Did he dispatch them with the particular idea of going after those who have drawn cartoons of the Prophet

Muhammad? All possible, you know. So some direction not clear that it was all drummed up overseas and directed and that they didn't sort of take that

direction and act on their own. This is something that police are trying to piece together definitively now.


QUEST: Jim Sciutto in Paris who will continue to watch the national and international security aspects of this. The U.S. Department of

Homeland Security is ramping up searches at airports. A government official told CNN about the enhanced measures. However, they actually

started some weeks ago. Now, they include measures aimed at foiling bombers and would-be bombers. The U.S. authorities are worried about non-

metallic bombs that can only be detected with full body scanners. One solution is of course more random searches. That not only means passengers

but luggage obviously, but searches that take place at the gate after they've already gone through the security checks. CNN's Evan Perez our

justice correspondent is live in Washington. They've been doing these checks already for some time, Evan. It's being ramped up. What is the

core of the difference of what they're looking for this time?

EVAN PEREZ, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Richard, what they're looking for is looking into - they want to look inside your luggage to see

if there's anything in there that is perhaps constructed or designed to evade the screening - the screening machines. That's the big concern. You

know, the problem here is that, you know, the Homeland Security Department, the Transportation Security Administration have a very difficult job of

trying to screen passengers, trying to do it very quickly because people complain if you're waiting too long to go through the screening and also

not disrupt travel -- make sure that commerce is not disrupted. And so, you know, the idea has occurred to people because of this concern over

these types of bombs - these new-fangled bombs that are designed to evade the screening machines, that perhaps, you know, you could ban all carry-on

luggage. I mean, that has come up before. It is something that is untenable because passengers would revolt, you know, it would be very bad

for the airline business. So this is what the alternative is which is to do random checks and hope - hope - that you can stop a device from getting

onboard a plane.

QUEST: (Inaudible!) Excuse me. Isn't really the answer here know your passenger? I mean, the intelligence-based - the intelligence-based

information ultimately is the way you catch these people.

PEREZ: Right.

QUEST: Not on a random Tuesday in October when you may be lucky.

PEREZ: No, that's absolutely, absolutely true. That is - if your - if your - your first line of defense is at the airport, then you've already

lost. That's the true answer. And what you're saying is exactly right - that, you know, you have - they have to do better screening of people

before you get to the airport. The issue is, Richard, that they know that there are people who have no - nothing on their record who might be sitting

in a basement somewhere reading "Inspire" magazine, reading this Jihadi literature and then deciding to do something. And because a lot of this is

self-directed, we don't know yet whether the Kouachi brothers really got the specific direction to do this or whether they - it - was just a -

QUEST: Right.

PEREZ: -- a summation of everything they've been getting. So that's the issue is that you don't know what triggers these types of episodes.

QUEST: Evan Perez, thank you very much indeed for joining us. Emboldened and without mercy - this is extraordinary - Boko Haram is

spreading its terror beyond the Nigerian border. We're going to be in the region where officials are calling on the world to take notice of exactly

the latest atrocity from this group.


QUEST: An important story that "Quests Means Business" here we're certainly not going to overlook - the deadly rampage of Boko Haram in

Nigeria is not spreading across the region and is growing ever more gruesome if that were possible. Look at that. As the world stood

transfixed by the terror attacks in Paris, there was a five-hour gun battle which raged on Monday in Cameroon. Our senior international correspondent

is Nic Robertson. He's in the Nigerian capital Abuja.


NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: With these latest reports of the attack across the border from Nigeria and Cameroon,

really very, very close to the attacks in recent days, the past week or so, inside Nigeria. Cameroon authorities say that they did repel the attack on

an army base. How many Boko Haram they killed, that's really an open question at the moment, and certainly they dared the Cameroonians to take

casualties. This is a problem that's been growing for them. Their president has been outspoken about it - said that there needs to be

international help.

We're hearing that in Nigeria as well the Archbishop of Jos, Ignatius A Kaigama, has also talked about this. He has said that the international

community has had an outpouring of support for France but where is that support for Nigeria? He said, yes, Nigeria does need to clean house, does

need to improve many things here, but he said even if they do, it's still - they still require help from the international community. It's becoming a

growing problem that's growing beyond the borders of Nigeria.

Now, we have heard the army here push back on the death toll in the town of Baga. Witnesses - eyewitnesses say as many as 2,000 people killed

in that massive Boko Haram attack there that put 30,000 people to flight. The armies say that they've had reconnaissance aerial surveillance over

there. They believe that the death toll is 150 including soldiers. They have not publicly released those photographs, but we have also spoken to

soldiers who were part of the sort of recovery effort there and they describe a harrowing task of literally prying, they say, their colleagues'

charred bodies out of burnt army vehicles, something that for some of these soldiers it put them off eating food - it was so traumatic, it put them off

eating food for several days. So really, the extent of what happened in Baga is unclear -- a growing problem and growing cause for international

support. Nic Robertson, CNN Abuja, Nigeria.


QUEST: This is CNN.


QUEST: Now it's a display of brawn and brains at the Detroit Auto Show. The world's top automakers are showing what they think the future of

motoring looks like - concept cars, different theories/philosophies. Now, for Cadillac, it's all about power. It's trying to regain the top spot in

the luxury car list (ph) after years of losing to Mercedes and BMW. CTS-V is the company's most powerful car ever. Now, Petrolheads will just be

looking at this in absolutely (ph) delight and - but -- and capable of 200 miles an hour. So that's the Cadillac offering. They're going for sheer

raw power.

Volvo is going for a first. Join me at the Volvo garage. Open the doors and up goes. Volvo will be the first global automaker to export cars

from China to the United States. It's expecting to sell on this idea 1500 S60 sedans. Now Geely bought Volvo in 2010 -- Volvo of course used to be

part of Ford. But the Volvo concept now very much is to create the - to create the cars in China and export them to the United States.

We've got power, we've got perhaps sleek lines and beauty, but when it comes to the garage holding Mercedes, well Mercedes got ahead of the pack

and it's revealed its concept car at last week's Consumer Electronics Show. We know what that's going to look like. And that's their concept car.

It's the F 015, and this concept car it does the driving for you. Now, autonomous driving is something that we know is definitely going to come

our way. The question is who's going to be first, and not only who's going to be first, who's going to corner the market? Will it be Ford who say

that they want to get it right? Will it see that? Now, Daimler chief exec says cars will revolutionize how the future of these concept cars (COUGHS)

- excuse me - is how we spend our time.


DIETER ZETSCHE, CEO, DAIMLER: We set the targets some years ago to be number one by 2020. We have been the fastest-growing premium brand last

year and we think we can take this momentum into this and the following years. So today I'm more confident than ever that latest in 2020 we will

be in this position.

QUEST: As we look at the world at the moment, there are some very troubling parts for your market. Russia is so significant but obviously

with sanctions, now with recession, you must be reappraising/rethinking the whole Russian business.

ZETSCHE: Well as far as 2014 is concerned, we reached our targets, we grew in comparison to 2013 and we grew our market shares significantly over

our direct competitors. Now looking forward to 2015 of course, we have the situation with the strong degeneration of the ruble and so we already

increased prices again this month. But there are definitely in 2015 the situation will be more difficult and we will feel some of the pressure as

well as our competitors already do.

QUEST: The oil price is low, the CEO of Ford said to me last week - Mark Fields - said that yes, this will be better for SUVs and for larger

vehicles. Now, with your new SUVs, your sleeker, you're new range coming along, this must be good news - a low oil price boosts those bigger


ZETSCHE: Well we said before the oil prices started to sink that 2015 would be the year of the SUV for our brand. With all together four

vehicles in that segment and that obviously gets tailwinds there by the development of gas and prices even though our vehicles, our SUVs as well

are very fuel efficient and we're offering the new technology of plug-in hybrids for SUVs as well in the future. But nevertheless, certainly it's

good news for us to have these low gasoline prices in relation to our SUV business.

QUEST: This combination - technology, consumer gadgetry, automobiles, the passenger - it's all coming together. So, sir, what does the - what

does the driving experience look like in the future to you?

ZETSCHE: The connected car is one significant element of it. So basically if you want their car becomes part of the Internet of things but

on the other hand autonomous driving is another tremendous perspective and this in the first place means more safety and secondly it gives our

consumers the most valuable goods there - of the future - which is space and time. So in the future you still can decide to drive your car, but

when you have other things to do, either relax or work or communicate - you can do that while getting from A to B. So this is a tremendous new world

which we tried to visualize with our new research concept car F 015 which we introduced at the CES there last week.


QUEST: Chief exec of Daimler. Now, Mercedes isn't the only luxury car maker that wants to build a vehicle that can drive itself. As CNN's

technology correspondent Samuel Burke explains - well actually didn't explain as much as he got behind the wheel of a car - the BMW - and the BMW

wouldn't crash, no matter how hard Samuel tried.


SAMUEL BURKE, BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: All right, so tell me what's going on in this puppy.

MORITZ WERLING, BMW: You're in charge of everything but the car will make sure that you don't hit anything.

BURKE: One, two, three (YELLS). That's so cool.

WERLING: It brakes for you because it has the 360-degree protection.

BURKE: How close am I?

WERLING: That - it's like 10 to 15 centimeters.

BURKE: That's a little close for comfort.

WERLING: It's too close for comfort but it's button (ph) up for safety.

BURKE: Say hello to me and my driver. And there it goes back again. And it looks like we even have some room to spare. How does this car know

where to park?

WERNER HUBER, BMW: The car has a map onboard -

BURKE: Of the parking lot.

WERLING: -- the parking lot.

BURKE: And how did it get that?

WERLING: It get it for example by a Wi-Fi (ph) connection at the entrance or like the navigation system has a map always onboard.

BURKE: And the question I always have about these cars is if it crashes, who's responsible? Me, my insurance, you - it's your fault if it

crashes, it's not mine, I'm not driving.

WERLING: Since there is no driver, it works in the driving (inaudible). He can't be blamed for any crashes (ph). That means -


WERLING: We will take care for all the consequences.

BURKE: OK, that was a little closer to that car than I would have done myself if I were driving. And look, I'm even in one piece.


QUEST: A quick bit of market information. The shares of the camera maker GoPro fell very sharply today - down more than 12 percent on NASDAQ.

It was on the news that Apple has now been awarded a patent for a mountable sports camera of its own. Competition potentially go from Apple for GoPro.

The company went public in June, rocketing 55 percent on its first day of trading. Since then of course, it's now down 50 percent on the price.

We'll have a "Profitable Moment" after the break. (RINGS BELL).


QUEST: Tonight's "Profitable Moment." A 400 point swing on the Dow Jones that we saw today and for seemingly no reason. The only comment of a

profitable nature is there's going to be more of this in the days ahead. Be prepared - it's time for the investors' tin hat. And that's "Quest

Means Business" for tonight. I'm Richard Quest in New York. Whatever you're up to in the hours ahead, (RINGS BELL) I hope it's profitable. I'll

see you in Davos next week.