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Hagel: Felt Pressure From White House To Release Gitmo Detainees; Paris Gunman Filmed Attack with GoPro; Officials Concerned About Spread of Virus at Super Bowl

Aired January 30, 2015 - 19:00   ET


ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: OUTFRONT tonight, breaking news. A major development from the Pentagon. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel telling CNN exclusively here on television that he was pressured by the White House to release Gitmo prisoners.

Plus, the measles outbreak in America grows. The same virus that killed nearly 150,000 people around the world in 2013 now spreading. Is the anti-vaccination movement to blame?

And more snow, millions still digging out from the blizzard of 2015. And guess what, a whole lot more is on the way. Let's go OUTFRONT.

Good evening, I'm Erin Burnett, OUTFRONT tonight, the breaking news from the Pentagon. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel telling CNN in a television exclusive that he felt pressure from the White House to release terror suspects from Guantanamo Bay. The significant revelation. Remember, the President has made it his top priority to close the Guantanamo Bay prison.

Barbara Starr spoke with the secretary just moments ago.


CHUCK HAGEL, DEFENSE SECRETARY: Not everyone at the White House has agreed with me.


HAGEL: The pace of releases.

STARR: Because you've been cautious.

HAGEL: Because I have the responsibility and I play my own game here. And that is because by law I'm the one, the one official in government charged with certification of releasing detainees. I take that responsibility very seriously.

STARR: Have you had pressure?

HAGEL: We've had a lot of conversations.

(END VIDEO CLIP) BURNETT: And Barbara joins me now from the Pentagon. Barbara,

you know, that was very direct. You know, you kept pushing him and pushing him but he was direct. Were you surprised?

STARR: You know, Erin, I didn't even think I would say this on live TV but yes, I almost fell out of my chair. Chuck Hagel says a few days away from leaving office. And I think his view now is that finally after two years of politics in Washington now he can say exactly what he thinks. And what he is telling us here for the first time is that the White House wanted him to increase not just the number of detainee releases that he as secretary of defense has to approve, the number of releases, the number of people and increase the pace, they wanted him to do it faster and basically he told them no -- Erin.

BURNETT: I mean, it's just pretty incredible that he would admit to you that that disagreement happened over something that we all know so near and dear to this president's heart. It's a promise he made as a game into the office, it is a promise he is seeking with now that he wants to close Guantanamo Bay, and get all these prisoners out. And it's a significant piece of news. You also got the secretary to talk about the ISIS fight. He told you more ground troops might be involved in fighting ISIS.

STARR: Well, this also was interesting. And, you know, you'll remember on Guantanamo Bay, the President wants to close it. The secretary of defense has to approve that national security is not at risk if these people are released. And Hagel had significant national security concerns. The same kind of national security concerns he does have about ISIS. He was very cautious on this but actually revealed somewhat of his thinking. He said it would, could be necessary for the U.S. to send a small number of ground troops to the front lines in Iraq to help the Iraqis fight ISIS and help them locate targets and not be in combat. He was clear it's not there yet but he certainly open the door to it.

BURNETT: All right. Barbara Starr, thank you very much. So much breaking news there she said. Not often that she would tell you she was surprised but she almost fell out of her chair with that revelation from the defense secretary in that exclusive interview tonight. More breaking news. New video of the Paris terror attacks. This is video actually filmed by one of the attackers. According to a French newspaper, the video shows three of the four murders in the kosher grocery store.

Jim Sciutto is OUTFRONT and Jim, what more do you know about the video?

JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Erin, a U.S. intelligence official confirmed to me that he shot a video, he had a camera on him, he shot video of his attack while it was under way. We have additional details from a French newspaper reporter that CNN has been sharing reporting with Express Newspaper reporter that while he was in there he shot seven minutes of video during the attack including the murder of three of those four hostages inside that kosher market and while he was in there surrounded by police that he up loaded that video to a computer and e-mailed it out to a friend, a contact, in the Middle East that believed to a fellow Jihadi. The concern now Erin that at some point that video, a gruesome video that he promises to be is going to come out on jihadi websites as a recruiting tool. It's going to be -- if we see these images they will going to be powerful and I imagine alarming.

BURNETT: I would imagine so. It's absolutely horrific. And I know he did it on a GoPro camera. We have also just learned the top ISIS chemical weapon's expert was killed during an airstrikes, with breaking news cover to continues, what can you tell us about that?

SCIUTTO: That's why this airstrike took place about six days ago. Took him that time to confirm that he was killed. It was in the vicinity of Mosul in Iraq as you know. One of their strongholds key city, second largest city in the north there. What's interesting though about this chemical weapons expert is he goes back to Saddam Hussein's time. He worked in the well-known Wutana (ph) chemical weapons facility and then he joined al Qaeda in Iraq in 2005. That of course the predecessor to ISIS under Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and you'll remember that during the war the U.S. claimed victory over al Qaeda and Iraq. Of course, it reconstituted itself as ISIS and then reared its ugly head again as it swept down through Iraq last year. It's just a sign of how far and how deep the roots of ISIS are and how difficult it is to stop this threat.

BURNETT: Jim Sciutto, thank you very much. And OUTFRONT now, Michael Weiss, columnist for Foreign Policy and co-author of "ISIS Inside the Army of Terror" along with our military analyst General Spider Marks.

Michael, let me start with you since you're hear with me. The defense secretary. You heard Barbara Starr say she's been coming to the Pentagon for a long time. She almost fell out of her chair. The defense secretary of the United States admitting that he's been under pressure from the White House to release Gitmo detainees too quickly.


BURNETT: How concerning is that?

WEISS: Well, it's no surprise. I mean, the rates of recidivism of Gitmo detainees are then released and then end up in some kind of militant insurgency or terrorist organization are much higher than the Pentagon would like. Most military officials will tell you we don't want to let these guys go because they will wind up in al Qaeda or ISIS or whatever. In fact, there was a guy, I think it was Moroccan who was released from Guantanamo Bay and wind up in ISIS. And he was identified in Syria at some point a year or so ago. Syria, I mean, the military officials are one mind on this issue. But look, what's happened in the last few weeks, the U.S. announced that they're going to renew bilateral relations with Cuba and then, you know, one of the most frozen kind of conflicts hiding over the cold war. The Castro regime have said, what, we want Guantanamo back to us in order to normalize these relations. And Obama as you point out --

(CROSSTALK) Absolutely.

BURNETT: But nonetheless General Marks, I mean, this is pretty shocking. Just this week of course they admitted that one of the five Taliban commanders that was exchanged for Bowe Bergdahl has attempted to return what they call, quote-unquote, "militant activities." It may not be surprising that it's true but it's surprising that the defense secretary of the United States on his way out is admitting he's under pressure to signing off on this too fast.

GEN. JAMES "SPIDER" MARKS, U.S. ARMY (RET.): Again, I don't find it too surprising that he would acknowledge that certainly now that he's not encumbered by this position that he was in. But the real deal in terms of these prisoners swap and we have historical -- that this takes place before. These were five incredibly bad guys. But the deal was they would go to some form of control in the government of Qatar. That's okay if it had been executed well. Clearly it was not. So, the swap by itself I think you could label as possibly an okay move but it was the execution of that swap and the results that came afterwards that were totally hosed up. That's the issue where the United States should be looking at. You know, if we're going to close Gitmo and these guys are going to have to go elsewhere, what are the arrangements for these captors in these countries or unless we put them back in the United States in some prison system.

BURNETT: There's a lot of questions is that some of these countries obviously are giving them free reign or -- for example. That six detainees over the holidays. Free reign to do what they want. ISIS is trying to negotiate prisoner swaps right now with countries they've tried with United States. They have threatened to kill these hostages, Jordanian pilot, the Japanese journalist several times, and then they don't and they keep negotiating. General Marks, why? Every other time this has ended with a beheading video. It has not this time. Why?

MARKS: Probably one of two things or maybe a combination. One is ISIS may be gaining some traction with the Japanese government and they think that there might be a possible outcome where they're going to get some cash for a release. That may also have to do with proof of life. The second thing is, there has been some tactical successes on the part of the coalition going after ISIS. That clearly is not going to stop their activities. And we have seen an increase in their activities in essence opening another front up in Kirkuk. But there may be some wounds that they are licking right now in a combination that the Japanese may be willing to pay.

BURNETT: What do you think about that? There could be wounds they're licking. It may not be necessarily as --

WEISS: No, I think, look, whatever happens from the negotiation, it's already a propaganda victory for ISIS. They're not called the Islamic State for nothing. They want to be considered a viable form of government. By treating them as a terrorist organization means by definition, we don't negotiate with you. That's why the U.S. has tried to rescue the American hostages and failed. Instead of paying the ransom, to pay the ransoms. ISIS pays very close attention to U.S. policy making debates. He looked at their propaganda. They have photographs from U.S. think tanks. They read the output of these organizations. What they're trying to do is drive a wedge between the United States and Jordan. Jordan of all the coalition partners in the Arab world is probably the most sympathetic to U.S. goals in terms of a strict counter terrorism policy. And looks at what happened, the father of this Jordanian pilot has been outspoken in his criticism of the government. Release it. This is our native son. We need to bring him home. The pilot himself comes from an influential tribe. So the monarchy in Jordan is very, very upset by this development. And they're negotiating with ISIS.

BURNETT: And they're negotiating. You've got this -- in Jordan. All right. Thanks so much to both of you.

And next, the deadly measles outbreak spreading. Tens of thousands crowding into Phoenix for the Super Bowl. Health officials there are warning if you have symptoms stay away.

Plus, the new face on the FBI's most wanted terror list. For years, he was a cab driver in Washington, D.C. driving around landmarks like the White House and the capitol. Would he be planning to launch attacks against the United States?

And guess what, there's so much more snow on the way for the snow in northeast. The forecast ahead.


BURNETT: Welcome back. Officials tonight on alert for measles at the Super Bowl. The measles outbreak now in 14 states including Arizona where the Super Bowl will be played on Sunday. The tenths of thousands of visitors descending on the University of Phoenix stadium, the CDC advising anyone with symptoms to stay away from the game. We are learning tonight more about cases, new cases in California, Nebraska and Minnesota igniting fears around the United States that this highly contagious virus is just beginning to spread.

Dan Simon is OUTFRONT tonight in San Francisco. And Dan, what are you learning about these new cases where you are which really in many sense is the epicenter of this outbreak?

DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, hi, Erin, concern here definitely rising. You have two new cases in Marin County just north of San Francisco. The public Health Department they are issuing an urgent press release this afternoon telling us about these two cases. These are siblings both unvaccinated and they tell us that it's related to the Disney Land outbreak. Now, they know where these children go to school but they are not disclosing it. But they also say, they're not going to tell the children there who are unvaccinated not to attend school because they think they have this thing under control. Needless to say there is worry here and obviously, if they feel like there's an active situation where they need to tell children not to go to school, they do so. They actually happened in Orange County a few days ago where there's an active outbreak there. Twenty high school students told not to go to school. If you were to liken this Erin to a wildfire, certainly out of control and crews just trying to figure out how to contain it -- Erin.

BURNETT: And we are just finding out that there has been an increase in the number of cases Dan where you are of measles to 91 from it might believe 63. This is just coming in today from the difference of what we know yesterday. That's a really big jump.

SIMON: It is a big jump. And if you take a step back and look at you look the situation here in San Francisco at a Marin County, you have a large amount of people here who have filed these personal exemption forms for their children. If you look at the kindergarten class in Marin, you have six percent, if you have 100 kindergartens, six of them are not vaccinated. That is the essence of the problem that's much larger when you look at the state average. Free times larger than the state average and much larger when you consider the entire nation. California, we should point out last year it enacted a law which says that if you're going to, you know, file one of these personal exemption, then you have to have the signature of a health care professional. That false when a lot of states have done because they want to encourage conversations between parents and their doctors. Obviously doctors, the medical community wants parents to vaccinate their children and by putting that signature it basically alerts the school that they've been informed of all the risks -- Erin.

BURNETT: All right, Dan, thank you very much. That breaking news right now, the cases in California, at least as we understand now are going up from 63 to 91. That is a big jump. And the fear of an outbreak in the U.S. is real for a reason. When you see numbers like that, here's why. According to the CDC 90 percent of the people who are not vaccinated will become infected if they come in contact with someone with the measles. That's 90 percent. And that's why you see numbers like 63 jumping to 91.

Tom Foreman is OUTFRONT. Tom, I know you're probably not surprised when you hear a number like that, when you've been looking how contagious measles is.

TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's absolutely right, Erin. Look, we all know that if you were on a bus or train or a plane and somebody near you sneezed and they had the measles virus, you're likely going to be exposed to it. But some research out of M.I.T. last year suggested it's really is a lot worse. And imagine if I were seated in this seat right here. This research said that even if somebody sneezed way back there on the plane that beyond the immediate area of where they are seated there can be these invisible clouds of sort of micro droplets that travel a very long distances despite filtering systems and everything else, and those micro droplets can infect me. They can land on the surfaces and I can touch them and they can infect me and as you noted there, if I have not been vaccinated or if it's a circumstance where I have not had measles before, I have a 90 percent chance, as you mentioned a 90 percent chance of getting infected.

So, what are we seeing in this country? We're seeing more people backing away for voluntary reasons from having their children inoculated. And this is the result. Every place that's darker on there is where people have backed off from doing it. They backed down some. And guess what, two of the darkest places, they were talking about here, California, they had the outbreak at Disney land and as you noted moments ago more cases now. And now we're looking at Arizona where they're looking at a whole lot of people where, guess what, people are coming from all over the country right now Erin for the Super Bowl.

BURNETT: So, Tom, I mean, as people congregate and they congregate in places like planes, hotels, restaurants, how much of a risk do they have of becoming infected. Because you're talking about people who are not vaccinated and that rising risk. But then there's also the understanding that, you know, it doesn't last forever. So, if you had it as a kid and you didn't get boosters which most people don't because everybody was supposed to be getting vaccinated, a whole lot of people might be vulnerable who don't know it?

FOREMAN: It's possible some people are vulnerable who don't know it but that's going to be a smaller set. The real issue is the people who just aren't taking any measures against it because if enough of them start congregating a place like Arizona around this event, yes, they can start passing it among themselves. And look at what the result has been of some of this, Erin. Back in 2000, we basically said as a nation that measles had been wiped out in this country. It was gone. And yes, we had some sort of artifacts of cases here for a number of years but look what has happened in recent years. Suddenly, we started seeing little spikes here, not great big ones but signs of something going on again in 13 and then last year. Look at that. It jumps to well over 600 cases. And Erin, if these numbers keep holding up this year we'll go higher than that before year's end. In a country with 311 million people it's not pandemic but it is a trend line that health officials really don't like seeing -- Erin.

BURNETT: It is certainly is. And as we've said 400 people a day around the world die from measles even now.

I want to bring in vaccine exemption injury Attorney Patricia Finn along with criminal defense Attorney Danny Cevallos. Okay, good to have both of you with us. Danny, let me start with you. These latest numbers. The breaking news that we have right now. The number of cases in California going up from reported 63. Tonight we are now told it's 91. This is now confirmed in 14 states. The CDC says the majority of the people who have measles were not vaccinated. Should parents of unvaccinated kids be held accountable legally?

DANNY CEVALLOS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: When you say legally we're talking about tort liability and they should. Here is why. Even if you decide, we decide as a society to keep these exemption rules that allow parents to make a decision based on religion or philosophy to not vaccinate their child, that's fine. Tort liability isn't really concerned with criminality. Tort liability is about making people hold for another person's bad decisions. So, it doesn't really ask whether or not you acted legally but it holds you instead to a community standard. So, if you're parent who personally thinks that your child shouldn't be vaccinated, no problem. You continue to do that as long as you met the law. But tort liability can independently hold you liable by holding you to a community standard. And however honest and sincere your belief is that vaccination is a bad idea, it is against the great weight of the community and science. So, therefore, you can be held liable even in a world where you have these exemption statutes.

BURNETT: All right. Patricia, what do you say? All 50 states require school children to be vaccinated. But what about this community issue?

PATRICIA FINN, VACCINE EXEMPTION INJURY ATTORNEY: Well, first of all, the data that's being thrown around is very unreliable. Perhaps the spikes that we're seeing in vaccines or in illness is being caused by the vaccines. There's absolutely no proof whatsoever --

BURNETT: But how could it be being caused by the vaccine when we haven't seen the spike when the vaccine is been around for decades?

FINN: Well, the disease is ebb and flow. And vaccines are made in batches. And you don't know where they are coming from. A lot of them are made overseas in secret labs. People who are vaccinated do get ill.

BURNETT: Okay. So, what about the points I just want to keep making sure I'm pushing back because the CDC says the majority of the cases involve people who have not been vaccinated.

FINN: Right. And the CDC is not the most reliable source of data. Because about six months ago, there was research and evidence put out that Dr. Thompson who was involved with the study with the MMR claimed that CDC is falsifying information on the efficacy of the shot. If you can show me proof where that MMR is actually controlling this spread of this disease then let me see it. But as far as I know there are no studies.

BURNETT: Okay, let me just throw one thing out here.

CEVALLOS: We eradicated it. How's that improve? We eradicated it.

BURNETT: Before 1963 there were three to four million cases of measles a year. All right? Then there were fewer than 2,000. That is the vaccine.

FINN: No, it's not the vaccine. People think that polio is eradicated by the polio vaccine when in fact polio had decreased because diseases ebb and flow. And they had to grease before the vaccine was even introduce. You don't know, manipulating disease, millions of people being injected with shots where you have no clue where they're coming from, who's making them, what's in them and kids get sick from auto-inoculation. That's quite possible what these spikes are from. It may be from bad vaccine. And you don't know.

CEVALLOS: And you know what, Erin. You know, we live in great country where she can continue to have the approach to life, which is you don't know for sure, but you know, unfortunately, you don't know for sure never cured a disease. Science has cured diseases. If her position is, hey, I'm not so sure I want to trust the CDC, I'd rather trust an actress or my own feelings. Well, feel free to do so. You're absolutely free to do so. But if you make those choices and fail to inoculate your children then you should be held liable under our theories of tort liabilities, under principles of negligence which again allow you to maintain your own personal views but will hold you to a community standard.

FINN: And how are you going to prove that? Are you going to timestamp the illness?

CEVALLOS: Well, you're one of those people. Let me explain. Let me explain.

FINN: No, no, let me finish.

CEVALLOS: You're one of those people -- I'm answering your question.

FINN: No, I wasn't done with the question.

CEVALLOS: That's a long question. My goodness. We only have so much time.

FINN: Well, you've dominated most of it. So, let me just continue. How are you going to prove where the vaccine came from and if you can prove to me that the vaccine is controlling the spread of disease then let's take it up in tort liability. But as far as I'm concerned you would have a burden of proof and you wouldn't be able to prove that the vaccine controls the spread of measles because nobody has done that. And I'd like to see the science that you're looking at because the science that I see is very questionable. And I have a right to peek under the hood.


CEVALLOS: Right. It's not my science. I barely got out of high school chemistry. That's why the rest of us rely on the experts. And if you don't think the CDC falls within the class of experts, well then, well probably never a see eye to eye.

BURNETT: All right. Well, leave it there. You obviously don't see eye to eye but that conversation we're going to continue to have. I appreciate both of your time tonight.

And next, the next major storm, the blizzard of 2015 buried a lot of the northeast under two to three feet of snow. But guess what, a whole lot more of it is coming in the next few days.

And the newest face on the FBI's most wanted terror list is an American. His last job was a DC cabbie and it may make him especially dangerous. Our report.


BURNETT: And the hits just keep coming. A new and dangerous winter storm bearing down on the Northeast tonight. The system bringing more snow to a region that is just barely starting to dig out from this week's record blizzard. Winter storm warnings are in effect in Boston, all the way to

Maine -- road slick, wind chills going to ten below zero in New York. In parts of Maine tonight, up to a foot of snow could fall before the system moves in. Then it goes over the whole weekend because this is just the beginning.

Another system is gaining strength. It has a potential to dump a significant amount of snow across the Northeast as well.

All right. We're going to have more on this whole forecast in a moment because it's a double whammy. First, though, Miguel Marquez is OUTFRONT live in Portland where the snow is falling at this moment.

Miguel, how is the city dealing with these snowstorms? I mean, this is one after another after another.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This is exactly the problem for them. You know, 10, 12 inches is not a big thing but they've had so many of them. This is downtown Portland. This is an 8-foot pile snow right in the middle of city. They've got about two feet in this area. This could be dangerous.

And this is the problem. They've been trying to clear the roads for several days and trying to keep up with it. The roads are in pretty good shape at the moment, but the forecast has the snow coming down very hard all night tonight and getting extraordinarily cold into the single digits and the wind chill way below zero and the wind is going to pick up as well. The wind is just starting to pick up here.

If you could swing around here, you see some of the snowplows coming down the street here. This is what you see in Portland and across Maine, these very large snowplows. So, they keep the roads clear. It's impressive. So far nay are keeping up. They're not allowing any cars onto park alongside the roads so they can -- so they can clear these roads and not get any of the cars stuck in these giant piles of snow -- Erin.

BURNETT: Miguel, I have to say -- I know you're out of breath because I know you climbed up the snow pile. That's one of the most impressive things -- I could hear it. Everyone heard it. I got to call it like I see it.

But the truth is, it was pretty amazing you got all the way up there without collapsing because I would have had a head dive. You looked graceful.

All right. Miguel, thank you very much.

All right. You just saw that giant pile that Miguel was in. It's major concern for clean up crews across the Northeast when you have these giant piles snow everywhere. They have to find places to safely store tons and tons of it.

Jason Carroll is OUTFRONT in Portland, too.

And, Jason, what happens to the snow once it's plowed? These big piles you're driving by that Miguel was zipping to the top off.

JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We're going to get to that in just a moment.

First, I just want to go over some of the driving here. And we have been seeing a lot of these piles as we have been driving. Driving conditions have been extremely treacherous. We checked in with the police who basically have been telling us they have seen more than 100 accidents so far. Why? Obviously, because of all the snow that's been out here.

We had a question, where does all of this snow go? Like the mound of snow that you just saw there with Miguel. We found the answer. I want to show it to you very quickly if I can as we pull over and hop out.

I want to show you what we found. It's here. This is the spot, take a look, where all the know or at least most of it from the city of Portland ends up. It ends up in this huge industrial park -- parking lot right in the middle of the city.

I mean, you ask yourself, you know, in a place like Portland where you have a lot snow and you've got a lot of space. The snowplows come here and this is where they end up dumping up.

I want to give you an idea, Erin, as I pull a Miguel and climb up. I just climbed over a fence. This gives you an idea of how high this is going to end up going. It basically goes up about 25 feet up here to the top, where I am now. That gives you some perspective, about two and a half stories.

This particular lot that you see here, Erin, is about one block in this direction, one block in the direction behind me. Just to give you a little bit more perspective, snowplow operators tell me by the end of the winter -- take a look at that building right new to me there, that's about three stories high, this mound of snow, this dumping ground is going to end up being about that high.

Now, you're going to ask yourself, what ends up happening to all the snow, Erin? They just say that they put it here and they let it melt. They should be all melted by the end of May -- Erin.

BURNETT: That is incredible. A block around, two and a half stories tall. Wow.

All right. Thank you very much, Jason Carroll.

BURNETT: There are new storm warnings. This is going to go across the Northeast. Another storm on the back of the storm now. Forecasters predicting more significant snowfall.

Meteorologist Chad Myers is OUTFRONT.

So, Chad, we have the massive blizzard. Now, we have another storm and then we have another storm. It's just a triple whammy. CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, it's winter. We're in

pattern now that takes the lows and runs up the East Coast. They run them to the north. That's what happens. We get them back over here into Maine, into New Brunswick, and a little bit of Nova Scotia, although Nova Scotia doesn't get warm tonight and it rains, although some of that could be freezing rain, because it could be raining in 31 for a while before it gets to 35.

It's done by late tonight into tomorrow. It's not a major event. Boston, you're going to pick up a dusting. What you see now that's just about done. The snow is just about over, the heaviest snow to the north.

What you will pick up across the entire northeast is this red map behind me of winds of almost 40 miles per hour tonight, finally tapering off to 25 by tomorrow night. And this is the story where the temperatures are going to be cold.

Philadelphia, Monday morning you're going down to 7. Boston, you're two below zero. That's the low without the wind chill. You have to make that wind blow around at 20 miles per hour. It's very cold. Make sure the pets have enough shelter or just bring them inside because they don't like the cold. I don't like the cold and I don't like it at all.

Here's is snow. This is for Sunday. It starts out in the southwest. It rained a little bit in Phoenix today. Some people trying to have fun around the Super Bowl. There's the snow. It moves across.

We have winter watches now all the way from Iowa, all the way into Pennsylvania. This is the swath of snow that we expect. This is not a blizzard. But this could, for New York City, put down eight new inches of snow and all of a sudden, where do you start stacking it.

Look at this from Boston -- you put down foot and a half of snow. They already have three feet. How high do you have to throw it to get it out the way? Boston is stick clocked with snow for sure, Erin.

BURNETT: You're looking at these piles, these pounds of three stories plus. They're just going to wait for it to melt. I mean --

MYERS: They're YouTube moments waiting to happen.

BURNETT: They are, and races to see who's in better shape racing to the top, Jason or Miguel. And I will refrain from judgment on that. Thanks to you, Chad.

OUTFRONT next: Roger Goodell got a little testy with our own Rachel Nichols today.


ROGER GOODELL, NFL COMMISSIONER: So, I think we have done an excellent job of bringing outside consultants in. Somebody has to pay them, Rachel. So, unless you're volunteering, which I don't think you are.


BURNETT: And how did an American citizen go from driving cab in the nation's capitol to landing on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list?


BURNETT: Tonight, an international search is on for a former cab driver who is now one of FBI's most wanted terrorist. He's a 29-year- old. He's an American citizen, and there are now concerns that he may be training with a terrorist group with the hopes to carry out an attack on America.

Rene Marsh is OUTFRONT.


RENE MARSH, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The FBI is on the hunt for this man, 29-year-old Liban Haji Mohamed, a Somali- born naturalized U.S. citizen. The latest addition to the agency's list of most wanted terrorists.

What makes Mohamed of special interest his last job. Three years as cab driver in the D.C. area and the terror group in Africa that the FBI says he joined. That group is known as al Shabaab, behind the deadly 2013 Westgate Mall attack in Kenya. According to the FBI, Mohamed is believed to have left the U.S. with intent to join al- Shabaab in East Africa, and is currently there operating on behalf of that terrorist organization.

That attack in Kenya, an especially horrific, deadly attack.

PAUL CRUICKSHANK, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: There were three gunmen, at least, who stormed the mall with very heavy weaponry and they just fired with these automatic weapons into crowds of people trying to kill just as many people as they could.

MARSH: In the statement, the FBI says that before joining that group in Africa, Mohamed was a recruiter and a radicalizer for the terror group, while working as a cab driver in Washington, D.C.

CRUICKSHANK: He is connected with al Shabaab, and that appears to be the suspension, that he has knowledge of Washington, D.C., of important landmarks in the city. Obviously, taxi drivers know their way around.

MARSH: And now, the fear that Mohamed, an American citizen, could return to this country and launch terror attacks against the U.S.

(on camera): The FBI says that Mohamed has provided support and resources to al Qaeda. They say the reason why it's so critical to locate him is because of his knowledge of the D.C. area -- Erin.


BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Rene. Very troubling.

An OUTFRONT next, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's response to our Rachel Nichols, one of the top trending topics on Twitter today. You get to judge for yourself.

And an insider's take on Tom Brady, squeaky queen, all-American, or cheater?


BURNETT: Tonight, new controversy for NFL commissioner, Roger Goodell. Two days before the Super Bowl, he took questions. At issue, the NFL's credibility following a series of high profile scandals, deflate-gate, of course. Whether the Patriots under inflated their footballs and, of course, things like domestic violence.

When answering a question about the footballs he managed to create another controversy.



Roger, you guys have faced a lot of problems over the past year that have a really wide range, but a lot of issues have in common is a conflict of interest. When you do something like hire an outside investigator like Ted Wells into the Patriots investigation, you're still paying him and Robert Kraft who owns the Patriots is still paying you.

So, even when you do everything right in one of those situations, it opens you guys up to a credibility gap with some of the public and even with some of your most high profile players. What steps can you take in the future to mitigate some of those conflict of issues -- conflict of interest issues?

GOODELL: Well, Rachel, I don't agree with you on a lot of assumptions you make in your question. I think we have had people with uncompromising integrity. Robert Mueller is an example, who -- I think you asked me the same question last fall about a conflict of interest. Their integrity is impeccable. Ted Wells' integrity is impeccable.

These are professionals. They bring in outside expertise and outside perspective. They're conclusions are drawn only by the evidence and only by the attempt to try and to identify that truth.

So, I think we have done an excellent job of bringing outside consultants in. Somebody has to pay them, Rachel. So, unless you're volunteering, which I don't think you are, we will do that.

But we have a responsibility to protect the integrity of the league whether we have an owner that's being investigated or we have a commissioner that's been investigated, they're done at the highest level of integrity and quality.


BURNETT: OUTFRONT now, Rachel Nichols, and "USA Today" sports columnist and our sports analyst, Christine Brennan.

All right. Rachel, let me start with you. You're the trending topic on Twitter and his reaction to you as the trending topic. Before I share what everyone else have to say on Twitter, what did you think when he talked like that to you.

NICHOLS: I just thought it was a missed opportunity for Roger Goodell. Look, this is a big topic of conversation. At the beginning of the week, one of the most high profile players here at the Super Bowl, Richard Sherman, said in front of the assembled media, hey, there's a big conflict of interest here with Roger Goodell and the Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

This keeps getting in the way of them doing good work. I would think the NFL would want to mitigate that situation, would want to look to take steps to change that, to belittle the idea as opposed to working towards positive change. I'm questioning that strategy of the commissioners.

BURNETT: You're being gracious. You belittle the idea but, of course, in so doing, belittled you. Kristine Goodell's response to Rachel was trending on Twitter. Here's a couple of the tweets, just a couple of many.

San Francisco reporter Sal Castaneda tweeted, "Roger Goodell won't score any points, being sarcastic with or dismissive of Rachel Nichols."

"The Philadelphia Daily News" reporter tweeted, "Roger was dancing beautifully until Rachel Nichol's question, bullying, smarmy response. Fully aware he's standing above us at a lectern."

What do you think, Christine?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, CNN SPORTS ANALYST: Well, Rachel is one of our finest sports journalists and a dear colleague for many years. Rachel's question was excellent. It was right on target, it was appropriate, it mattered.

And with Roger Goodell talking, Erin, about humility and about soul searching, which was a tone throughout the press conference, he took a big step backwards when he decided to add that little extra sarcastic comment to Rachel. Frankly, he shouldn't have said anything sarcastic to any sports journalist, especially a sports journalist who happens to be a woman in this season of all seasons.

BURNETT: The season of course with the domestic abuse scandal.

Rachel, before we go, will we ever know what Tom Brady or anyone of the Patriots said deflated those footballs? NICHOLS: Well, it's going to be interesting. They haven't even

spoken to Tom Brady yet, these investigators. They said they're going to do it after the Super Bowl. We will hopefully learn more then but there's a lot of people who have a lot of questions. We'll have to see if they even get answered.

BURNETT: That's for sure. Thanks so much to both of you. And all of you, please share your thoughts about Roger Goodell's answer to Rachel with us.

The other pre-Super Bowl spotlight tonight, of course, is shining on Tom Brady, the quarterback of the patriots. The man at the center of deflate-gate, Kyung Lah is OUTFRONT.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Deflate-gate is still grabbing headlines.

KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Grabbing headlines, and sucking up all the oxygen on sports radio.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I believe none of what Tom Brady said.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But I'd rather those questions to the person who did it, Tom Brady.

LAH: Tom Brady and the pop culture echo chamber for all the wrong reasons.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tom, I think you're pretending to know a lot less than you actually do.


LAH: Is the Patriots' quarterback a cheater, or the all-American squeaky clean QB kids love? Tom Brady being asked that himself.

REPORTER: Is Tom Brady a cheater?


LAH: The very accusation challenges a career long image built as a good son from sleepy San Mateo, California. On his Facebook page, he posts pictures of the goofy boy who despite a solid college football career prepared this resume for a non-football job just in case he wasn't drafted. He was, deep in the sixth round.

No one knew his name until a sudden injury struck Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe. Lee Steinberg remembers that moment clearly because he was Bledsoe's sports agent.

(on camera): Did Tom Brady's ascension surprise sports agents?

LEIGH STEINBERG, SPORTS AGENT: I think it surprised everyone. You don't expect a sixth round draft pick to come in and become the dominant quarterback of this time. LAH: He's defied expectations since, on the field leading his

team to what will be his sixth Super Bowl appearance.

BRADY: You only get so many time-outs.

LAH: In the commercial world, bucking the trend of fellow players, taking on very few sponsors, a deliberate snub of potentially millions of dollars, part of an image tightly managed and controlled. His one fumble to that image, Brady dated actress Bridget Moynihan. They publicly split when she was pregnant.

Before Moynihan gave birth, Brady was already dating supermodel Gisele Bundchen, a public mess quickly forgiven by male and female sports fans. Is that something fans care about?

(on camera): Is that something fans care about?

STEINBERG: The fact he married the highest paid model in the world, good for him.

LAH (voice-over): But spy gate soon followed. In 2007, the NFL fined the Patriots for cheating, videotaping signals from their opponents. How did Tom Brady come out of spy-gate?

STEINBERG: Untarnished. Tom Brady doesn't scout the signals. Tom Brady doesn't make those decisions. He's been Teflon coded, movie star handsome, rarely makes an offensive statement.

LAH (on camera): People are talking about him as a cheater.

STEINBERG: Americans don't like cheaters. If one person in the world has a real chance to have people believe him, it's Tom Brady.

LAH: As a 37-year-old, Brady looks to what may be his last Super Bowl. He's hoping to not just win a game but solidify his reputation and his legacy -- Erin.


BURNETT: All right. All eyes will be on him. That's for sure. Thank you, Kyung.

And be sure to tune in tomorrow for our Super Bowl special, Rachel Nichols, and special guest Dan Marino host kickoff in Arizona at 4:30 Eastern.

We'll be right back.


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