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ISIS: Second Japanese Hostage Beheaded; Whitney Houston's Daughter Found Unresponsive in Tub; ISIS Admits Defeat in Kobani; Security at the Super Bowl; Measles Cases on the Rise; Whitney Houston's Daughter Found Facedown in Bathtub

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POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York, 7:00 Eastern and a lot of breaking news to get to.

We have an update on our breaking news, in the horrific development of a hostage situation overseas. All hopes that this man is still alive have been dashed.

He is a 47-year-old journalist named Kenji Goto, a Japanese citizen captured by the extremist group ISIS, who has claimed to have beheaded him. The group released a graphic video, a very graphic video earlier today that appears to show all of that.

Reaction from the Japanese government, outrage. Reaction from the White House, strong condemnation of ISIS, and solidarity with Japan.

We just heard moments ago from the White House. President Obama expressing solidarity with Japan, issuing a strong message for those Islamic extremists.

This is part of the statement. It reads, "The United States condemns the heinous murder of Kenji Goto by the terrorist group ISIL." The president goes on to say, "Standing together with a broad coalition of allies and partners, the United States will continue to take decisive action to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL."

Let's go straight to our Will Ripley. He joins us live in Tokyo.

Will, you have been covering this from the beginning. And there was a lot of hope, hope that potentially a prisoner exchange would work to mean that this journalist could be released. What is the reaction in the early morning hours there from the Japanese citizens about the clear and brutal murder of this journalist that so many have grown to love there?

WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, absolutely, Poppy. Shock is one emotion that a lot of people are feeling. Even though this wasn't a surprise and many people had feared that this was coming, especially as the negotiations for a prison swap for Sajida al-Rishawi, in exchange for Kenji Goto, seemed to fall apart in Jordan, even after this latest deadline passed and there was that ominous silence from ISIS, which as we've seen over the last week, usually that silence is followed by another video, another social media post because that is how, unfortunately, the world learns about what this terror group's movements are, given the fact that Japan has had no direct line of communication.

But that didn't change the fact that when this video was posted, shock, disgust, sadness, anger, all things that people here in Japan are feeling right now. And also, they're proud of Kenji Goto for his courage and his dignity up until the very end. He is not going to be remembered for the cowardly acts of these heinous murderers. He will be remembered for the way that he lived his life, the way that he reported with compassion, and the way that he loved his family, his wife and his two young daughters.

HARLOW: I know Prime Minister Shinzo Abe did make a statement a little while ago. What was his message?

RIPLEY: His message was, of course, first of all, his thoughts with Kenji Goto's family, outrage over the actions of is, and determination that Japan will continue to push forward with its support of the coalition against ISIS. Japan has taken a very public stance that it is going to join the United States and Britain and all of the allies, Jordan, in the fight against this terror group. Japan's military is bound by its constitution not to act in any manner other than self- defense, so the way that Japan is contributing is through funding, $200 million to help humanitarian aid, the refugees, the Syrian and Iraqi refugees and Jordan and elsewhere who need the help desperately. They need the funds.

Japan is going to continue its support and push ahead.

HARLOW: Will Ripley, live for us in Tokyo where it is Sunday morning and people are waking up to this tragic news. Thank you, Will. We appreciate it.

With me here to discuss, Juliette Kayyem. She's not only our national security analyst, he's also former assistant secretary of homeland security. Also with us, foreign policy journalist and author, Michael Weiss, who just penned a book on ISIS.

To you, Juliette, Tom Fuentes, former FBI, said to me earlier in the program, he thinks we are losing -- the United States is losing the propaganda war against ISIS. Do you agree?

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: I think it's very hard to win a propaganda war when the images coming from ISIS are essentially beheadings, or these long hostage situations. They've had a week of essentially free press between the Jordanian pilot and the Japanese reporter. And we give it to them for obvious reasons. Everyone gives it to them and that's very hard to combat through social media, through regular media.

All we really have is statements like we condemn this action.

HARLOW: But, but the U.S. came out within the last 10 days or so and said, look, we have killed some 6,000 -- coalition forces have killed some 6,000 ISIS fighters. I know there are security limitations so what we can show, but should we be showing more of these wins?

KAYYEM: Well, the wins are hard to show just simply because it's the battlefield and the battle ground and most of them are aerial killings. But we would have to prove to potential converts to ISIS is that killing 6,000 doesn't breed another 12,000 more. So, that's why people like everyone you have on here talks about we just have to take the long view here, this is not going to be a decisive battle ground victory for either us or ISIS. It is going to be a long term propaganda campaign, military campaign, intelligence campaign and a campaign about essentially the heart and soul of the Middle East.

HARLOW: Michael Weiss, can you speak to -- you just penned a book on this. Can you speak to the difference for the United States in fighting ISIS versus fighting other dictators, versus fighting al Qaeda for example? What is the difference?

MICHAEL WEISS, CO-AUTHOR, "ISIS: INSIDE THE ARMY OF TERROR": Well, ISIS operates at both the conventional and the unconventional, guerrilla military level. You know, technically, they were al Qaeda and Iraq until a cleavage with that organization or with the al Qaeda franchise a year ago.

Let me give you an example though. The U.S. has brought a lot of aerial bombardment to bear on this organization over the 11 years, we've technically been at war with it. The second battle of Fallujah in 2004, I forgot how many mega tons of bombs we dropped on that city to expunge al Qaeda in Iraq from it. Within a week of major combat operations, they had already set up shop in Mosul, making that their pullback for their new sort of operational headquarters.

After that battle, it was true that U.S. and Iraqi forces regained Fallujah. Osama bin Laden who was still then affiliated and was a spokesman for the international organization said this is a propaganda victory. Even though we lost the city, we bled the super power in it and we managed to make them sort of the perpetrators of these war crimes and atrocities.

So, my fear is, a strictly aerial based campaign against ISIS is going to do exactly that. And I mentioned earlier to you, look, a State Department official asked me what can we do to counteract the propaganda narrative? I said, what do you mean? The U.S. policy is the greatest to ISIS' propaganda.

The U.S. is now seen in league with Iran -- even though this isn't technically true. This is the perception, and politics is perception, seen in league with Iran and a consortium of Shia death squads, Shia militia groups that are committing ethnic cleansing and atrocities against Sunni in Iraq. If you're Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. You need only say, I told you so.

HARLOW: Do you agree? Obviously, regarding al-Baghdadi, as Michael seeing there, the head of the Islamic State that believes truly that they are building this caliphate, that they're spreading across Iraq and Syria, and as far as they can go to build what they would like people to deem as a substantial government?

KAYYEM: Well, I mean, I think it's hard to deny that it's not simply that they're successful in the beheadings and publicizing in social media. I mean, they have gained a lot of ground physically. And until we can stop, and it's just us, obviously, it's a coalition and also Arab states, there's no messaging that's going to overcome ISIS beheadings, but also their sense of victory. And so, whether it's a Jordanian pilot who I fear is probably is dead, since there's been no proof of life, or any number of Westerners who are going to get caught until we sort of get -- I have to say until we stop paying attention, which we will never do, this is just going to continue.

HARLOW: But can it be won from the air, do you believe with these air strikes?

KAYYEM: I believe we can put a significant dent in ISIS by air. I also believe that we gain nothing from going in on ground, but others will. And there's just --

HARLOW: You mean neighbors?

KAYYEM: Right, neighbors. There's nothing inconsistent with that, right? We have an incredible air force and air power, and it has done a lot to disrupt ISIS, but we're not going to send in -- we ought not send in troops, we saw what happened in Iraq.

HARLOW: Who's going to then?

KAYYEM: It might be the Turks. It might be other coalition advocates. And, you know, no one's willing to do it because of the lesson of Iraq. So, you know, it's sort of a lose-lose, or there's no good answer right now. And so, a lot of it is defense and a lot is offense from the air.

HARLOW: Yes, it's tragic and you wonder how many more lives need to be taken and we still have three -- at least three known hostages still being held by ISIS.

Juliette, Michael, thank you.

We'll be back in just a moment with more of our breaking news, straight ahead.

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HARLOW: All right. We are also continuing to cover breaking news here in the United States.

This hour, the late daughter -- the daughter of the late singer Whitney Houston found unresponsive and face down in a bathtub full of water. This is a disturbing echo of her mother's tragic death nearly three years ago. Twenty-one-year-old Bobbi Kristina Brown is Houston's only child. Brown was not breathing when her husband and friend discovered her this morning at her home near Atlanta. Her mother, Whitney Houston, died in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton Hotel back in February of 2012.

Let's go straight to Nick Valencia. He's outside the hospital where she's being treated.

Do we know how she's doing? NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, Poppy.

According to police, she is alive at this hour and breathing. What is unclear though is if she's breathing on her own or perhaps with the help of a hospital respirator. As you mentioned, she was found at 10:30 this morning in her Roswell residents by her husband and a friend. And according to that husband, what he told police was that she was face down in that bathtub, we don't know for how long she was in that position or how long she had been in the tub prior to that. Police also did say that initially they did a sweep of the residence to see if there were signs of drugs or alcohol.

Lisa Holland with Roswell police told me that there was no obvious or clear indication that that played a factor, but investigators are still on the scene as early as an hour ago. They were still conducting search warrants there. I asked her why the search warrants. She told me this is standard operating procedure any time they enter someone's residence, they have a Fourth Amendment right to get that search warrant, so there's not much to look into there. But police tell me at this point, Poppy, they're treating it as a medical incident.

HARLOW: Right. And nick, obviously we have to address what has been a lot of speculation about any potential drug, alcohol abuse. Nothing confirmed obviously and we don't want to jump to any conclusions here. In fact, I know that you were just talking to someone who had a lot to say about how she was working to turn her life around and working on how to really get through the loss of her mother who she was incredibly, incredibly close to.

VALENCIA: Yes, certainly, and her supporters are hoping that this is just a really bizarre coincidence, that she was found in a similar scene, just like her mother. But I did speak to an editor at "People" magazine who told me, you know, it is unfortunate, but when people mention the name Bobbi Kristina Brown and her family, it's unfortunate that her family sort of synonymous with alcohol dependence. They did say that there was some concerns, this people magazine editor I spoke to said, that there was some concerns after she inherited a large sum of money after her mother's death how that was going to play a factor in her life.

But if you look at her social media pages, her Instagram account, her Twitter account, there were signs that she was changing her life towards the positive, that she was back to working out, that she was talking about living a healthier lifestyle and perhaps even resurrecting an acting career. This, of course, though is eerily familiar to the similar situation that her mother was found in.

Right now, though, her supporters, family, friends, hoping the best for her, and we should reiterate that Bobbi Kristina Brown, the 21- year-old, is alive and is breathing at this hour. It's unclear how well she's doing -- Poppy.

HARLOW: We hope she's doing as well as can be expected. Nick Valencia, thank you for that. Meantime, a battle is under way for the key city in the fight against

ISIS. We're talking about Kirkuk. It is critical in this fighting, huge source of oil. We're going to take you there next with someone who has been on the front lines and seen the battle playing out first hand.

Stay with us. That's next after a quick break.

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HARLOW: Looking now at the military operations against ISIS, something major has developed over the past few days. The extremist militant group now admitting that coalition airstrikes were too much for them to handle. Also, they gave up trying to control a strategic city. We're talking about Kobani.

A lot of attention paid to Kobani right there on the Turkish/Syrian border. ISIS fighters steamrolled into Kobani in September. This triggered months of ground fighting aimed at driving the extremists out.

But today, ISIS no longer remains in Kobani, even though they are still fighting, mostly in Iraq. It is the first time that ISIS fighters have admitted that they were frankly outgunned.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I swear by god, their planes did not leave the air day and night. They did air strikes all day and night. They targeted everything. They even attacked motorcycles. They haven't left a building standing, but by god willing, we will return and we will have our revenge multiplied.

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HARLOW: ISIS though clearly not backing down. One day ago, ISIS launched an assault on Kirkuk, a major, major oil city in Iraq.

Joining me now journalist Matt Wolf (ph). He joins us from Kirkuk. He served -- a former marine as well, so, two deployments to Iraq from 2007 to 2009.

Thank you for being with us and thank you for your service, Matt.

MATT WOLF, JOURNALIST (via telephone): Thank you for having me, Polly. Poppy, excuse me.

HARLOW: That's OK. Don't worry about it. You were on the front lines earlier today. Can you describe to us what you saw?

WOLF: Yes, I can. We arrived, my team and I, arrived down there this afternoon at approximately noon, so a little before afternoon. It appeared that forces were preparing some kind of offensive. What they told us is that they had for the most part driven the initial ISIS pushes from the day before and they even showed us some bodies they had of ISIS fighters piled up in the field. They said they were going to push on the village slightly to the south of Kirkuk called Mila Abdullah (ph), and with tanks and coalition air support, they made that move approximately 600 soldiers backed by, like I said, some tanks, anti-aircraft, guns, heavy artillery, things of that nature.

HARLOW: Matt, can you talk to us about the strategic importance of Kirkuk? We just talked about Kobani which was so strategically important there right on the Syria/turkey border. Looking at Kirkuk, outside of being a major region for oil production, why else is it strategically important?

WOLF: Well, to control Kirkuk, if you were, in fact, to control Kirkuk, you would have free access to the Kurdish capital of Irbil. And, obviously, that's going to have the Kurds on edge. The oil, obviously, is another major factor as well, but it's almost not quite equal distance but Kirkuk is a good point between Irbil and Baghdad. To control that city, you would control that route.

HARLOW: And, of course, you know, we've seen ISIS in the past six months, taking control of some major oil fields and selling some of that oil on the black market, adding to the vast wealth that has helped energize and carry on, you know, ISIS as a broader organization. You personally, you are a former marine and out there now frankly risking your own life to report these stories. We just heard of another journalist, Japanese journalist Kenji Goto, being beheaded by ISIS.

Do you fear for our own life there on the front lines, Matt?

WOLF: Today's fighting was quite intense, but the Kurdish forces seemed in control of the situation. I know the reports and I wasn't there two days ago to be fair, but I know the reports were that they had taken up somewhat of a defensive position.

Today from what I saw, they were almost entirely on offense, and there was coalition air support as well that was coming in quite heavy. And the Kurdish forces on the ground were very appreciative of that. They definitely cheered and gave a lot of shouts when the planes would pass by.

Are there dangers? There are dangers. There was at least one close call with a mortar strike today, but from what I can tell, none of the Peshmerga soldiers were killed, none of my team of journalists there was affected either. It was a close call, but we came out OK. IEDs, improvised explosive devices, homemade landmines, things of that nature have been an issue. ISIS controlled the territory we were in just the night before and the tactic is that they're going to succeed with as many explosives and improvised explosive devices as they can.

So, the Peshmerga forces are on the lookout for that. I know one of their vehicles that was actually in the column behind us actually struck one of those IEDs. So, theoretically, that's territory we had covered maybe an hour before.

HARLOW: Wow. Matt, stay safe to you and everyone you are on the ground with there. Thank you for your reporting. Thank you for your service, and stay safe.

WOLF: Thank you, Poppy.

HARLOW: Quick break and we're back in a moment.

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HARLOW: We're following breaking news in the case of a Japanese hostage formerly held by ISIS. ISIS releasing a video this afternoon, which appears to show the beheading of Japanese journalist Kenji Goto. He and a captured Jordanian pilot had been at the center of a proposed prisoner swap with Jordan.

The fate of the pilot still unclear at this hour. President Obama issuing a statement just a few moments ago. It reads in part, "The United States condemns the heinous murder of Japanese citizen and journalist Kenji Goto by the terrorist group ISIL. Our thoughts are with Mr. Goto's family and loved ones. And we stand today in solidarity with Prime Minister Abe and the Japanese people in denouncing this barbaric act. Standing together with a broad coalition of allies and partners, the United States will continue taking decisive action to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL."

Let's talk more about this with Michael Weiss, the author of the new book, "ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror". Also, I'm joined by Juliette Kayyem, our national security analyst and former assistant secretary of homeland security.

Juliette, to you first -- what do you believe ISIS is truly getting out of these beheadings?

KAYYEM: Oh, they're getting a tremendous amount of sort of focus by all of us. I don't want to say sympathy but sort of an awe about what they are willing and able to do. They essentially got a week of free media, between the Jordanian pilot and whether there was going to be a hostage brokering, and then, of course, the death of Kenji today.

And so, they keep themselves relevant. And it's not only good for them in terms of it shows they have strength but also in terms of the battle lines between ISIS, ISIL, and al Qaeda.

We're not talking about al Qaeda anymore. It is nonstop ISIS. And that is good for them in terms of recruitment, in terms of money, and in terms of their capacity to build up a strong terrorist organization that's gaining ground significantly in the Middle East.

HARLOW: Some have been saying, Michael, that it was no longer really a battle between ISIS and al Qaeda as we've been seeing, especially in the Arabian Peninsula, and they were working more together. Do you believe that?

MICHAEL WEISS, CO-EDITOR: There's been some tactical cooperation since the coalition got started. (INAUDIBLE) which is the official Al Qaeda franchise in Syria, it's true that they've received some ISIS supplies and material in their battle, mostly against mainstream western backed Syrian rebels. However, I think too much is made of this. I don't see a broach (INAUDIBLE) between Al Qaeda and ISIS.

HARLOW: You see what Juliette is saying in terms of them saying, "look at our successes, come work with us," recruiting other fanatics?

WEISS: Yes, look. What we saw in Paris, right? The massacre of the "Charlie Hebdo" journalists and then followed by the kosher market butchery. This was essentially hat I see is Al Qaeda and ISIS trying to one up each other using the streets of Europe.

HARLOW: (INAUDIBLE) that way.

WEISS: You make an excellent point, the Jordanian pilot can also be seen as we've stolen your thunder, Al Qaeda, Mr. (INAUDIBLE). This is us now, we're the concern.

KAYYEM: These organizations, look, the bar to entry is quite low. If you are someone interested in fighting for what they believe in, you're going to go to the most popular group. I put that in quotes. The one that seems the strongest, the one that seems to be winning, the one that's in the news all the time. That's not Al Qaeda anymore. That's ISIS.

HARLOW: On that front, Juliette, if you could, I mean you were formerly with the Department of Homeland Security. The United States, the State Department, has talked about even using social media to try to fight their own propaganda war against all of these images, but can the U.S. do that successfully, and how important is it that we do so that we prevent these lone wolf attacks, these home grown terror people that do not need to cross over the ocean to go be trained physically by ISIS?

KAYYEM: I think we have to view the strategy as both offense, right? So you want to get messages out. You want to stop people from recruitment. You want to get other people out, maybe not U.S. citizens or the U.S. government but other sort of validating peace and calm in the Middle East. Then it's clearly going to be some defense which is from the homeland perspective, from the protection of the troops perspective. We are just going to have to anticipate that given the number of people who are radicalized, someone is going to get through.

As we saw in Paris, as we have seen elsewhere, we have to sort of brace ourselves and from the homeland security front, be prepared to respond and then react.

HARLOW: Michael Weiss, quickly before we get to break, you just wrote this book, all about "ISIS, Inside the Army of Terror." What is the most effective way for the west to fight ISIS?

WEISS: You cannot defeat Sunni jihadism without Sunnis turning against the jihadis.

HARLOW: It's a political shift that's needed?

WEISS: Yes. The perception is the United States as I said earlier is in league with Iran, complicit in the genocide against Sunnis. That's the worst case scenario. The best case scenario is Sunni tribes in Iraq, why should we rise up.

If we rise up against ISIS we'll be slaughtered. Rather, cut a deal with them. ISIS is propaganda. What they have done is if you were part of the awakening councils that turned against Al Qaeda in Iraq, they give you two choices, death or submission and repentance. They have mass rallies of these guys, these tribal sheiks coming with their weapons, tearing up their security force badges and saying we apologize.

HARLOW: This has been a problem in Iraq for a long time, this argument that we need a much more inclusive government and you're saying this is key in all of it, as many air strikes as you launch, you're not going to win unless the Sunnis feel included.

WEISS: Exactly.

KAYYEM: But one thing I will say about the air strikes is we have to view the effort against ISIS and ISIL and even Al Qaeda as a delayed or disrupted attack or a strength by the terrorist organization is a victory. There's going to be no decisive victory so if the bombardment, the aerial bombardment can at least cause short term disruption so that you have intelligence agents come in or you can find ways in which they're not playing, we used to say in homeland security, a delayed attack is a win. You have to think of it this way in terms of long term.

HARLOW: Juliette, Michael, thank you both. We appreciate it.

Meantime, the biggest target for terrorists sits in Arizona, I suppose if you look at where a lot of people are going to be gathered, the Super Bowl, but security experts are determined to keep it safe. What are they doing? That's straight ahead.

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HARLOW: All right. We are counting down to the big game of the year, the Super Bowl, the kickoff less than 23 hours away. Of course, it is so much more than a game, it is also sort of an American holiday, although a lot of us are going to be working for it.

But with all those people packed into one place at the same time, you can bet security is extraordinarily tight. That's where the FBI comes in. Our Pamela Brown shows us what they're doing to keep players and fans safe.

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PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): I sat down with the head of the FBI's counter-terrorism division Michael Steinbach and we talked about the terrorism landscape and how you prevent a terrorist attack at a big event like the Super Bowl.

He says that a lot of preparation goes into place, it's all hands on deck, and he took us into the command center where he and others on his team would gather if there was a crisis during the Super Bowl. Take a listen to what he had to say. MICHAEL STEINBACH, FBI COUNTERTERRORISM DIVISION CHIEF: The FBI fbi, again in conjunction with the intelligence community and state and local partners, we look at all events across the country, public venues that could be a target, small, medium large, particularly, an event like the Super Bowl is a concern. We begin planning and preparing months in advance.

BROWN: Steinbach also said that he has seen an increase in chatter online leading up to the Super Bowl on Sunday, but that at this stage there are no credible threats.

Pamela Brown, CNN, Washington.

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HARLOW: All right. Pamela Brown, thank you for that.

Let's talk about how you keep people safe at such a big event like the Super Bowl. Our Rachel Nichols is there in Arizona, also with me here in New York, former Homeland Assistant Secretary Juliette Kayyem who was just talking to us about ISIS and now using her expertise also will talk to us about this.

Rachel, let me go to you first, you're on the ground there, you've been there since Monday. How tight is the security? What are they doing?

RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, it's definitely increasing as the week goes on, but it will be tightest around the stadium tomorrow. How tight? Well, they're even x-raying and going through Katy Perry's Super Bowl halftime costume and set just to make sure nothing's wrong there.

There will be a 30-mile no-fly zone over the Super Bowl. There will be black hawk helicopters patrolling that no-fly zone that were provided actually by the U.S. border patrol and then highlights some of the coordination between federal and local agencies here. You not only have customs and border patrol you have the TSA who is donating scanners and personnel to go through the scanning equipment when people go into the stadium. There's the federal air marshals who are donating behavioural specialists to walk through the crowd and see if anyone is acting suspicious.

They've hired 4,000 private security personnel, 3,000 local Phoenix police. They have bomb-sniffing dogs.

HARLOW: Wow.

NICHOLS: They told us they have nuclear bomb sniffing dogs. I don't know how you train a nuclear bomb sniffing dog but apparently they will be on hand.

HARLOW: I think Juliette knows. I'm not going to ask her to explain it for our viewers.

KAYYEM: I did. HARLOW: However, you wrote this piece for cnn.com about this and you said one key point is not simply relying, not relying just on the security apparatus. What do you mean by that?

KAYYEM: I've been involved for a lot of security in mega events and the most important sort of thing that motivates people to go to an event like this is flow. People want to experience the Super Bowl, they want to watch it, they want to have a good time. So you're constantly balancing the need for flow, the people enjoying the activity with of course safety and security.

It is silly to say we're going to be perfectly safe. It's just no - you can't think of things that way. There are too many different risks. We're talking about terrorism now but there could be a blackout or there could be a crowd stampede, any number of issues. And so what first responders focus on first is coordination as we were discussing earlier, federal, state, local, sometimes international and then also sort of response preparedness. If something were to happen, can we get people out, can we protect them and what's the best way to do that.

HARLOW: And you also write, look, if you're someone who's going to the Super Bowl, just don't bring stuff with you.

KAYYEM: So we always think about the security apparatuses coming on strong but at mega events like this what we also have to remember is it's very dependent on what people are willing to do. Sort of don't bring big backpacks, the see something say something campaign, drink but don't drink too much. Just sort of be smart about your own surroundings.

HARLOW: Rachel, before we go, quick 30 seconds though, just not on the security front but your outlook for the game. What's the most talked about thing there right now?

NICHOLS: Well, we were talking a week ago, Poppy, about deflate-gate, I do expect it to influence tomorrow's game. But not in the way you might think. I've spoken to several Patriots players behind the scenes. They are angry. They think that people that they had to cheat to get there and they want to show the world tomorrow that they deserve to be champions.

So look for a feisty Patriots team. We'll see if that pays off in a win or whether Seattle can hold them back a little bit.

HARLOW: We will see. You will be there live. Rachel Nichols, we'll see if it's the Pats or the Seahawks, the defending champion, will take

home that trophy. Rachel, thank you, Juliette.

KAYYEM: Thank you.

HARLOW: Good to be on with you both.

Just 15 years ago it looked like the measles was dead, gone, not in the U.S. anymore. Now more states reporting more cases in a fast moving outbreak. How did this happen and how dangerous is it really? Straight ahead. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HARLOW: The measles outbreak has spread to at least 14 states and it is growing. Health officials say a student at Bard College in upstate New York has the disease and he might have exposed other people to it because he took an Amtrak train from right here in New City to Niagara Galls last weekend.

Most people in the states have already been vaccinated. Most people get vaccinated when they're a child. Also, Bard has set up a measles vaccination clinic just to be safe. Our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen shows us just how quickly measles can spread and how it is not only contagious but how it can be deadly.

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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): If someone has the measles, 90 percent of the people close to them will also get the measles if they haven't been vaccinated.

You don't even have to be in the same room as someone with measles to get it. If they were in that room an hour or two before you, it's still lurking in the air and you could get it. When someone gets measles, they first will feel a sore throat, a fever, a runny nose. They might get pink eye, and then the rash begins.

The rash starts at the hairline and moves down from there. It's red. It's itchy. Most people recover from measles and they're fine, but some people do get terrible complications. They can get pneumonia. They can have brain damage, and for every 1,000 people who get the measles, two or three of them will die.

The Centers for Disease Control recommends that children be vaccinated between 12 and 15 months and then get a second dose between four and six years old. Most of us have been vaccinated against measles but there's a set of people who can't be vaccinated.

Babies under the age of one, they're not routinely vaccinated and people who have immune issues, for example, people who have cancer, they can't get vaccinated either. So all of us get vaccinated to protect them and that's what's called herd immunity.

Right now the outbreak is centered on California and mostly western states. However, it could spread across the country because people travel. People might not even know that they've been infected with measles. They get on a plane and they come to another state.

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HARLOW: Elizabeth Cohen there. Let me bring in our guest. Dr. Anthony Fauci, he is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Thank you for joining us, doctor. What stands out to me and what is so troubling is that this disease, measles is so preventable. The vaccine is incredibly effective. DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: That's correct. All the vaccines we have against any illness, any virus or microbe, measles is one of the most effective. As you mentioned in the piece, measles is also one of the most contagious viruses we have and there are serious potential complications with it. When you put all those ingredients together, it's really unfortunate that we don't make completely universal use of the vaccine and those people who can take the vaccine. That's really very frustrating because this could be avoidable.

HARLOW: So Elizabeth Cohen talked about this. It's an important point, right? Because when we were talking so much about Ebola, we emphasized the fact that this is not airborne. You have to have this direct contact with someone to catch it. Not the case with the measles. This can be airborne for hours and you can still get it.

FAUCI: Right. This is the epitome of an airborne infection. So whenever you talk about airborne, some people confuse other diseases as being airborne. This is truly airborne. If someone sneezes or coughs, it gets in there and it could just float around literally for up to two hours. It's an interesting situation where you could go into a room after someone walks out of the room and have coughed and sneezed, and you could get infected. Again, another reason why it's so important to be vaccinated.

HARLOW: So I wonder if you think there should also be mandatory isolation for the people that are now known across 14 states, 84 people to have measles. Because here's the thing, children under 12 months cannot get the vaccine, so they still have to be out and about, at doctor checkups, et cetera. It makes them incredibly vulnerable.

FAUCI: Well, first of all, the recommendations are certainly if you have the measles, you certainly need to be in a situation where you don't infect others, where you can isolate. If you're exposed, or potentially exposed to someone with documented measles, you should have a 21 day period where you don't expose to others and you can make sure that you don't have measles. But certainly children with measles are quite contagious four days before they get the rash and four days after they get the rash.

HARLOW: Sixty three percent of people with measles right now in this outbreak are older than 20. Can adults get the vaccine and it works just as effectively?

FAUCI: Certainly, for example, if someone who has not been vaccinated, they can get vaccinated and the recommendation, particularly if you're in going to be in a situation where you might get exposed, it is a two part vaccination. You get vaccinated one time, and then if you're an adult, you should get the second one no sooner than 25 days after the first.

As you mentioned correctly, when you're vaccinating your children, the first vaccination is 12 to 15 months of age, followed by one four to six years old. But people who are unvaccinated clearly are vulnerable. That's why you see some adults that have either not been vaccinated, or in some individuals, the immunity wanes. So that after several decades, you may get waning of immunity which is the reason why you see some adults in that cohort of people who have been infected.

HARLOW: All right. Dr. Anthony Fauci, thank you for your expertise. We appreciate it.

FAUCI: You're quite welcome.

HARLOW: All right. Quick break, we'll be right back.

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HARLOW: A new video from ISIS appears to show the beheading of a 47- year-old journalist, his name is Kenji Goto, a Japanese citizen who is being held hostage. The video appears to show his brutal murder. Reaction from the Japanese government is pure outrage. Reaction from Washington, strong condemnation of ISIS and solidarity with Japan.

Meantime, ISIS admitting that U.S.-led air strikes were too much for them to handle and they gave up trying to control the strategic city of KObani which lies right on the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS fighters rolled into Kobani last September causing almost everyone who lived there to run away in fear, but today ISIS is no longer in Kobani. It is the first time that ISIS fighters admit they were outgunned.

Now to other breaking news here in the United States that we are following this hour. The daughter of late singer Whitney Houston found unresponsive face down in a bath tub full of water this morning. This is a disturbing echo of her mother's death, nearly three years ago.

Twenty one year old Bobbi Christina Brown is Whitney Houston's only child. She was not breathing when her husband and a friend found her just around 10:30 a.m. today. Late today, police say she was "still alive and breathing." She is being treated at an area hospital.

Howard Bragman is a public relations expert. He joins us now from Los Angeles. He also know several members of the family. I know, Howard that you have been talking to them, what are they saying about how Bobbi Christina is doing and what they think might have led to this.

HOWARD BRAGMAN, PUBLIC RELATIONS EXPERT: You know, there is a lot of shocking sadness right now. It is eerily mimicking what happened to Whitney just about three years ago. Her death was February 11, the night before the Grammys.

And a lot of prayer because that's what the family does and that's how they express their love and support. Nobody is talking about what happened, why it happened, not even speculation. They are very closed lipped about that. But you look at a 21-year-old young lady and it's hard to imagine what could have happened. I mean and then there are things we certainly imagine but I don't want to go there because I want to give her the benefit of the doubt until we see what truly transpired.

HARLOW: Yes. And of course, police saying in their initial investigation they haven't found any link to drugs or alcohol at this point in time. Of course, it's just preliminary and that's not the doctors talking. But again, it's so important not to jump to any conclusions.

Not only are you close to some of the members of the family, you also know what it is like for the child of a star to be raised, right? This is the area in which you cover. I'm wondering if you can tell us a bit about just how close she was to her mother who she lost so suddenly and so tragically.

BRAGMAN: She was extraordinarily close. She was only 18 when it happened. Clearly her mother was troubled, and Bobbi Christina had a very troubled life. She has been expressing herself a lot on social media about the loss of her mother, about missing her mother. Bobbi Christina has tried to make it as a singer She tried to make it in reality TV. It's a young lady who probably should go off and be anonymous but because of who her parents are she really doesn't have that luxury of being anonymous.

So she toys with the public eye. She is not her mother, her mother was a once in a generation kind of talent. I think everybody adores Bobbi Christna. She's a lovely, loving young lady who has grown up in very challenging circumstances in the shadow of greatness.

HARLOW: I think one of the things that has come to light today, and some folks told our Nick Valencia, for example, is that she really was working, especially lately, to turn her life around, to really focus on the good things ahead and to really try to move past and move forward. What do you know about that?

BRAGMAN: Well, I know she has great love. Her - she and her husband have reportedly a very strong relationship. A lot of love and support. And I know she is, but she also has a great many demons at the same time. It is trying to move beyond those demons. Everybody who knows her knows the family, or is a fan, is pulling for her to get beyond today and get beyond this moment and stand on her own feet and make her own statement in the world.

HARLOW: Howard Bragman joining us from Los Angeles. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it. Good to have you on the program.

BRAGMAN: Thanks, Poppy.

HARLOW: That will do it for me, thanks so much for joining me this evening.

Coming up a big night of television ahead, 8:00 Eastern, the new episode of "Inside Man" with Morgan Spurlock's takes a look at medical tourism and catches up with an American who flew all the way to Thailand just to have surgery. You will not believe what you see. Then 9:00, CNN special reports "To Catch a Serial Killer," at 10:00, "Murder in Mexico: What Happened at Falcon Lake." At 11:00 p.m. "Downward Spiral: Inside the Case Against Aaron Hernandez."

Stay with us on CNN.com for breaking news any time.

I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. Thanks for joining me.