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Ukraine Pulls Troops From Debaltseve; The Fortune Tellers Of the Lunar New Year; Hunt Continues For Malaysia Airlines Flight 370; New Horizons Sends Time-Lapse of Pluto-Charon Orbit; White House To Host Counterterrorism Summit

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LYNDA KINKADE, HOST: Hello. I'm Lynda Kinkade at the CNN Center. Welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

A major offensive by ISIS repelled by Kurdish forces as the White House hosts a summit on battling terror.

We go live to the search for the missing Malaysian Airline still one year after it disappeared.

And on the anniversary of Pluto's discovery, we look at the mission that soon will give us our first clear glimpse of it.

We begin with the fight against ISIS as Kurdish forces battle the terror group on the ground in Iraq. Officials from around the world are

meeting in Washington to find new ways to stamp out the insurgency.

The White House is hosting a counterterror summit. The U.S. vice president kicked off the three day event by saying that peace won't be

achieved by military action alone.

Earlier this week, the UN security council issued fresh condemnation of the terror group after ISIS slaughtered 21 Egyptian Christians in Libya.

Cairo is now pushing for UN-backed international coalition to take on ISIS in Libya.

In the past 14 hours, ISIS launched a fresh offensive in northern Iraq. Kurdish forces say they've managed to repel the attack just outside

the northern city of Irbil. The multi-pronged assault took place around two towns near the Kurdish capital.

Kurdish (inaudible) say about 40 ISIS attackers were killed following heavy fighting that went on for hours.

Journalist Tim Lister has been tracking developments from the frontline Kurdish Iraq. And he joins us now from Irbil. And Tim, Kurdish

forces have managed for now to gain the upper hand. How did it all unfold?

TIM LISTER, JOURNALIST: Lynda, this was, by the standards of this front, quite a substantial engagement. It went on for about five hours.

And a lot of combat was very close quarters between the Kurds and ISIS. And at one point, Kurdish officials feared that their front positions might

be overrun.

That area is lightly defended. We were down there last week. And there are fortifications there the Kurds have built, but the weapons they

have are pretty ancient and there are not many of them.

So, ISIS uses the cover of night and poor weather (inaudible) to come across the river there and then to attack the Kurdish positions on the

front line.

In this event, once the two sides were sufficiently separated, air power was used. Kurdish officials say two or three airstrikes were used on

retreating ISIS elements and they believe, as you said, some 40 ISIS members were killed.

They actually -- that they believed a lot of them were foreign fighters. They know that, because they monitor a lot of the radio

communications of the ISIS fighters.

So, it was a serious engagement. (inaudible) prospect of ISIS being able to break through and reach Irbil, which is a big city and it's well

defended. But it was still a serious enough for the Kurds to be alarmed by the scale of the attack on three separate fronts.

KINKADE: Tim, you were there less than two weeks ago. And you were told by fighters that ISIS was making almost daily attempts to infiltrate

Kurdish lines. If they don't have the capability to take on the Kurdish capital, what is their strategy? Why are they drawing out fighters on the

outskirts of the capital?

LISTER: What they're trying to do along this enormous front -- it's about 1,000 kilometers long, the Kurds are defending from Sinjar in the

very north down to Kirkuk, ISIS is trying frequently these tactical attacks to draw Kurdish forces to one position, then to another position. It's a

war of attrition.

They don't, I think, believe they can take Irbil. They don't believe they can take Kirkuk. But what all this does is sucks Kurdish Peshmerga

fighters away from their principle job, which is to slowly strangle Mosul, which is the crown jewel for ISIS in this part of Iraq.

Right now, the Peshmerga have Mosul surrounded on three sides after some pretty heavy fighting.

We were in that area as well last week and the ISIS fighters had sent 20 suicide bombers against one position just for Mosul in the space of just

two days.

So the Kurds are having to battle along this wide front. And ISIS strategy is to keep picking them off where they think they're vulnerable,

drawing Kurdish forces one way and another, anything to relieve the pressure on Mosul.

KINKADE: And Tim, CBS released a photo of the ISIS leader al- Baghdadi, which was taken back in 2004 while he was serving time in a U.S. military prison in Iraq. What can you tell us about this photo? And

looking back, would you say that the prison was a pressure cooker for extremism, as some have suggested?

LISTER: It's one of very few photographs of Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi. In fact, there was only one rather grainy black and white photograph in

existence until this one came along.

I was actually in Baghdad and in Iraq at that time just before he was arrested in February 2004 and the insurgency had just got underway. And

U.S. forces were rounding up all sorts of people. But on their own admission at that time, officers were saying we don't really know who is

important. We don't really know where they fit in this emerging insurgency.

At that time, al-Baghdadi did not seem to be a principle danger, if you will. He was a somewhat mild-mannered bookish man who had just finished

a PhD in Islamic studies at a university in Baghdad.

But once he left Camp Bucca towards the end of 2004, he rejoined the insurgency in Samarra, which is his hometown, and then was subsumed into

the larger al Qaeda in Iraq group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

So it was an apprenticeship, the prison, very much. Some people call it the University of Jihad, because he created there a network, people he

stayed in touch with after he was released, as did many Iraqi fighters. And they were principally Iraqis. This was before foreign fighters came

along.

And I think one of the more interesting facts about that detention is that he may well have met former Ba'athist officers who are now the brains,

the military brains, in ISIS directing their military campaign, Lynda.

KINKADE: Tim Lister in Irbil, thank you so much for joining us.

Now, while governments fight ISIS with airstrikes, citizens are waging war from inside one of the terror group's major strongholds. Syrian

activists are taking it upon themselves to debunk ISIS propaganda. One activist explains to our Atika Shubert why he's risking his life to tweet

out the truth.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: ISIS propaganda videos attempt to show normal life in Raqqa -- aid delivered by fighters with AK-47s. But

now more and more people are posting their own pictures to counter ISIS's claims.

These pictures of what appears to be aid from the World Food Program and Red Crescent papered over with an ISIS flag and delivered by ISIS

fighters.

We spoke to the Syrian online activist who posted this video. He runs a network of a dozen activists inside the ISIS strongholds of Raqqa and Abu

Kamal (ph). For his own safety, he has asked not to be identified. But for this interview, we called him Rafiq (ph).

What kind of a punishment is there for somebody for something like this?

Rafiq, ACTIVIST: Unfortunately to say, its going to be death. They will treat him as a traitor.

SHUBERT: So literally risking their lives taking of this photo.

RAFIQ: Yeah.

SHUBERT: It is one of many small movements, working with only mobile phones and sporadic internet access, mostly on Twitter, Syrians who say

they are living under ISIS rule are posting pictures with hashtags scribbled on paper and photographed at the scene to prove they are there,

witnessing events with their own eyes, though there is no way for CNN to independently confirm this.

ISIS has been hit by hundreds of airstrikes. Activists say these pictures suggest they may be taking a toll, especially in the ISIS

stronghold of Raqqa.

RAFIQ: It says it's a warning for -- coming from the IS. to all vehicle drivers and lorries. Don't pick up any ISIS members and don't take

them anywhere.

This is a sign of how much they scared and worry, because the number of people defecting and leaving the IS.

SHUBERT: Rafiq's network is not the only one. The online group Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently has consistently countered ISIS propaganda

from the heart of ISIS controlled territory.

And Rafiq (ph) goes one step further, challenging ISIS supporters online. He believes that all of this will add up to a revolt against ISIS

rule.

RAFIQ: I've been talking to some guy two days ago, three days ago, and he said I think there will be a revolution very soon in Raqqa, against

IS.

SHUBERT: Does it look like there will be this revolution, this revolt?

RAFIQ: I think so, because I know certain people are very patient, but we have limits. So what's happening with Assad, it might happen with

Daesh, with anyone else. And I think that's what's going to happen very soon.

SHUBERT: Small, but important steps in challenging the rule of ISIS.

Atika Shubert, CNN.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KINKADE: And later this hour, we go live to the White House where the second day of that counterterror summit is about to go underway. The

homeland security secretary is due to deliver the opening remarks.

We shift now to the conflict in Ukraine and a major development on the battlefield. The Ukrainian said says that 80 percent of the armed forces

in the strategically important city of Debaltseve are now leaving.

The withdrawal comes after weeks of fighting with pro-Russian separatists. Russia, Ukraine and Germany have been calling on all parties

to lay down their weapons in accordance with a ceasefire, which was reached last week.

But that, of course, has done little to end the violence in eastern Ukraine. CNN's Nick Paton Walsh is on the ground there and here is what he

told us just a short time ago.

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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We have been driving now through the wreckage of what used to be hours ago Ukrainian

military positions here. I've just been at a checkpoint, which was frankly obliterated with holes as many Ukrainian soldiers left that position last

night. But there was one armed personnel carrier where clearly a couple of them had in fact been killed by a significant explosion.

We've moved on now to a mining shaft actually on the outskirts of Debaltseve, which appears at this stage to have been entirely deserted by

the Ukrainian force who may have been here in their hundreds for some time. We've been through the rooms they used to occupy, seeing the areas where

they presumably held a substantial defense here. But this particular area now fully in control of the separatists.

We are still kilometers away from Debaltseve itself, but I have to say there is not the kind of intense shelling sounds you would expect if that

city was still being heavily contested. The withdrawal of which you speak, it sounds like that is underway if not possibly as you mentioned in

completion in the hours ahead.

The key question, though, is what happens now? Debaltseve was always an issue of contention and the separatist believes it was there's under the

Minsk agreement. There was nothing in the Minsk agreement about it, but still that was their contention. It was already inside their territory,

they contended, because they encircled it and therefore dealing with it was an internal matter in their parlance.

Obviously that's not how the west or Kiev perceived it themselves.

As I stand here now, there are militant separatists, separatist militants, I should say, who are clear that their (inaudible) this is one

step they receive to liberate in their terms the rest of the Donetsk region, which involves continuing this military offensive. And I think the

symbolic loss of Debaltseve to the Ukrainian government will weigh very heavily indeed on the government of Victor Poroshenko -- Max.

MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You've been reporting, Nick, on the people that were trapped within Debaltseve as this fighting

went on around them. So hopefully some respite for them to go out and get some resources of some sort as opposed to the humanitarian crisis we've

been reporting on that could have unfolded there, or maybe has unfolded.

WALSH: Well, it does seem as though the military departure by the Ukrainian military is one thing, and that's obviously gone through an

extraordinarily difficult and contested region for them.

And then of course you mentioned the civilians as well. It is difficult to know how many people were still trapped in there. Certainly,

we were in Debaltseve ourselves two weeks ago. There were a substantial number, but you couldn't really count them as they were scattered amongst

the wreckage, only living in basements to escape the shelling that was pretty intense even back then.

The question now, of course, is where do they go? The governments, so self-declared of the Donetsk People's Republic has said they would attempt

to evacuate them. That was supposed to happen yesterday. It is now potentially going to happen today.

But they would of course, too, be leaving through contested areas. Debaltseve still a place, we understand where fighting is continuing

despite that Ukrainian withdrawal.

And then of course the question is what is Kiev's response to this momentous loss for them? This is the town they did not want to give up,

that they held all the way through the Minsk agreements perhaps knowing that in the end it may end up militarily being hard for them to hold on to

it. What is Kiev's reaction now? Do they, as Petro Poroshenko suggested, not turn the other cheek. Is there a harsh reaction? Or are they

accepting the reality on the ground now that this part of the territory is lost, because at the end of the day the separatists are backed most NATO or

western governments say by the Russian military (inaudible).

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KINKADE: You're watching News Stream. Coming up, it's been almost a year since Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 disappeared with 239 people on

board. We head to Australia for an inside look at the ongoing search.

And after struggling for years, Sony unveils a new strategy to revive the company. It could involve doing away with one of its defining

products.

Plus, we find out what lies ahead for world leaders in the lunar new year with the help of a Chinese fortune teller. Some bizarre advice,

including a recommendation for the U.S. president to get a slithering new friend.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KINKADE: Welcome back.

Chelsea Football Club have condemned a group of fans caught on video engaging in racist behavior. This video was obtained by The Guardian. You

can see a man trying to board a crowded train in Paris, but he is repeatedly pushed away by a group of passengers. The fans on the train

then chant a song with the words we're racist, we're racist and that's the way we like it.

It happened before Chelsea's Champion's League game against PSG.

Chelsea released a statement saying the behavior was abhorrent. The club says they support criminal action against anyone in the video.

Nearly a year after Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 disappeared, ships continue to scour the Indian Ocean searching for the plane.

A cruiser using high-tech sonar equipment to map an area of the ocean where the plane is believed to have crashed with 239 people on board.

Several ships involved in the search have been returning to port in Perth, Australia this week for resupply.

Now, Anna Coren is there now. And Anna, you went out on a vessel to get a look. How has the search area changed in the past 12 months? And

where are they focusing their efforts now?

ANNA COREN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the search is very much focused about 1,000 nautical miles from where we are here in Perth.

It's a priority area. It's 60,000 square kilometers. It's been narrowed down from what was the initial search area considered to be half the size

of the United States.

So, certainly progress has been made there, but it's still an enormous area. And as you mentioned two of the ships are back here. They're

switching out crews, getting supplies. Equipment is being fixed before they head back out.

But in total, there are four ships that are going over this search area, a third of it has already been completed. And they're hoping to

finish the entire zone, this priority zone, before May.

So they are obviously the hopes of the contractors who are on board to get this search done. They're working off a satellite data that has been

analyzed by the experts. And they believe, Lynda, that if the plane is on that seventh arc in that priority zone they will find it in the next few

months.

KINKADE: And Anna, obviously people who have passengers, family members on board that plane want closure, what will happen if nothing is

found?

COREN: Yeah, well that's the great mystery, isn't it? These families have just been suffering for almost 12 months now and basically, you know,

all they want is some clues, some answers as to what happened to their loved ones. 239 people were on board MH370 and still to this day no trace,

no (inaudible) of debris, nothing as to what happened to this Boeing 777.

So, really, for the families, they just want this search to continue until something is found.

You know, these boats they're looking for a debris field out in the southern ocean, but really they are looking for a needle in a haystack.

That is the challenge that is before them. And to give you an idea as to what they've been experiencing out at sea, you know, they are searching

4,000 meters below the surface. That is where this ocean floor is.

The typography down there, it is rugged, you are talking about underwater mountains, volcanoes, cliffs, so huge problems for the sonar

equipment. And then above the surface, Lynda, you know, these crews have endured three cyclones in the past month-and-a-half. They've also been hit

by waves of up to 16 meters. And these are meant to be good conditions. Come winter, it's going to be so much worse.

But, you know, once this priority area is done by the end of May, the families are terrified that this search will be wrapped up. And from those

that we have spoken to, they just say that simply is not good enough. They need to know what happened to their loved ones and they're so desperate to

bring them home.

KINKADE: A difficult search. It's hard to believe it's been a year.

Anna Coren in Perth, Australia, thank you very much.

Asia is just a few hours away from the year of the sheep or the goat or the ram: it all depends on who you ask. After the break, we visit Hong

Kong's night market to get a fortune teller's take on what lies ahead and what the new U.S. president needs.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KINKADE: Welcome back.

Sony chief executive Kazuo Hirai has unveiled his plan to turn around the struggling company by focusing the gadget giant on entertainment.

Hirai says Sony will concentrate on games, music and movies as well as image sensors to cameras. He also said the company might sell off its

ailing TV unit. It's almost unthinkable -- an almost unthinkable prospect for the company that once defined television sets with the Trinitron.

Their revolutionary technology made Sony an industry leader in TVs for decades, a far cry from its current struggles.

Families across Asia are gathering this hour to begin ringing in the lunar New Year. Thursday marks the start of what some are calling the year

of the goat. And for a peak at what lies ahead for movers and shakers around the world, Sophia Yan heads to Hong Kong's historic night markets

for a fortune telling session.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SOPHIA YAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Out with the horse and in with the goat. Millions of people celebrate the start of the new lunar year, giving

red packets of money to each other, spending time with family and looking forward.

It's a traditional past time in Asia, a lunar new year approaches, people line up here at Hong Kong's historic Temple Street night market to

get their fortunes told. They want to know what's in store for the year of the goat.

Master Josph is a Feng Shui and destiny consultant who has been looking into the future for more than 20 years.

MASTER JOSEPH, FENG SHUI AND DESTINY CONSULTANT: Usually, they ask me what will be this coming year -- love, relationship, money and also

(inaudible).

YAN: For a personal reading, all he needs is your birthday and a long hard look at your face and hands.

Or, even just a photo.

U.S. President Barack Obama, Xi Jinping, David Cameron, the co-founder of Ali Baba. Who do you think will have the luckiest year?

JOSEPH: This person. He will have a better year, this one. His (inaudible) good because he's careful. By the time they're 50 years old,

he's fortune face on his nose here. It seems that he will bring good luck this year for him.

YAN: What about U.S. President Barack Obama?

JOSEPH: He one year of the Ox. This year, he with big conflict with the year of the goat. So that's why in this coming year, he will place

many difficulties and problems.

YAN: Is there anything that Obama can do to turn his luck the right way?

JOSEPH: Put a rooster in his office, or a snake in his office, they can help him.

YAN: A snake?

JOSEPH: A snake, yes.

YAN: Why?

JOSEPH: Because snake is in communing with the ox.

YAN: Because they're friends, snake, rooster.

JOSEPH: Yes, because these animals can help an ox.

YAN: The dozens of fortune tellers on this busy strip rely on an array of different techniques to peer into the future.

As the night goes on, and queues grows. Some of the longest are the Tarot readers.

The cards shuffled and the deck laid out, the time to pick your card and your destiny.

(inaudible) but this bird jumps straight in there, plucking a card from the pile.

And of course I couldn't leave without getting my own fortune told.

JOSEPH: From the face here, your nose is good and beautiful, but your -- the character is you're very stubborn.

YAN: Sophia Yan, CNN, Hong Kong.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KINKADE: Still to come on News Stream, Pluto is making a big -- is marking a big anniversary. We'll look at NASA's new horizons mission to

find out more about this mysterious dwarf planet.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KINKADE: Hello, I'm Lynda Kinkade at the CNN Center, you're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.

Ukraine's president says 80 percent of the armed forces have withdrawn from the city of Debaltseve. He says they're taking tanks, military

vehicles and artillery pieces with them. Russia, Ukraine and Germany have been calling on all parties to lay down their weapons in accordance with a

ceasefire reached last week.

Kurdish forces say they have repelled a major attack by ISIS militants just outside the northern Iraqi city of Irbil. The multi-pronged assault

to place around two towns near the Kurdish capital. Kurdish commanders say about 40 ISIS attackers were killed overnight.

Up to 300,000 people are expected to attend an anti-government rally in Buenos Aires, Argentina. It comes one month after prosecutor Alberto

Nisman was found dead in his apartment. He had been scheduled to testify about his allegations that Argentina's president tried to cover up Iran's

role in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish center. President Christina Fernandez de Kirchner denies any cover-up in the bombings.

85 years ago, an American astronomer discovered a planet at the edge of our solar system. Today, Pluto is considered a dwarf planet. The

demotion happened in 2006 and still sparks plenty of debate. This year, scientists are starting to learn more about Pluto.

You're looking at a time lapse video of the small planet and its largest moon Charon. It was shot by NASA's New Horizon spacecraft that has

traveled nearly 5 billion kilometers to study Pluto.

Pluto was still the ninth planet in our solar system when New Horizons lifted off back in January 2006. At the time it was the fastest spacecraft

ever launched. It has spent nearly 2,000 days in hibernation during the course of its long journey.

New Horizons woke up from its final nap in December.

In May, scientists expect to start getting detailed pictures of Pluto. And on July 14, New Horizons will make its closest approach to Pluto and

its five moons.

But the spacecraft won't be finished after that flyby. It's said to carry on deeper into the Kuiper Betl and help us learn more about how

planets formed.

Now let's get more on this. David Brody is a science and technology writer for Space.com and he joins us from CNN New York. Thanks so much for

your time.

DAVID BRODY, SPACE.COM: Good morning, Lynda.

I can't compete with an Asian fortune teller, but we'll try and do some science for you.

KINKADE: You can read into the future, or perhaps the past, I guess, of our planets.

Firstly, if you can talk to us about this time lapse and how it was done?

BRODY: Which time lapse are we talking about?

KINKADE: The time lapse of Pluto, the one that NASA has just released.

BRODY: Right. So what we saw was the New Horizons spacecraft taking photographs of -- during its approach -- of Pluto and its moon Charon

orbiting around it. Actually Charon is so big that the two of them orbit a common center of mass, which is outside the skin of either body.

So if you look at that little dance in space, you could consider Pluto -- yes, it's a dwarf planet, but it also could be considered a double

planet. It's the only thing in the solar system that is like this, that has a moon that is that large.

It's not the only moon, there are some others. And as the New Horizons spacecraft gets closer and closer, we might find that there are

even more moons that we haven't seen yet.

KINKADE: Well, I was going to ask about that, because 85 years ago when Pluto was discovered and I have to say I grew up learning that Pluto

is a planet in our solar system, but obviously we've been told more recently that it's not by some astronomists. It doesn't quite fit the

rules of what makes a planet. Can you explain that?

BRODY: Sure.

Well, let's look at the big context. I mean, Pluto has been there for four-and-a-half billion years, 85 years ago we decided it was a planet. In

2006, we decided it's a dwarf planet. It really could be considered a really giant comet. It's absolutely frozen as far as we know. We here in

New York think that it's cold today, the temperature on the surface of Pluto is like minus 220 degrees Celsius.

Ice is rock, water is a rock at that temperature, so it everything else other than the atmosphere of Pluto.

So, Pluto is probably the best example, maybe the nearest example, of what are called Kuiper Belt objects. And it turns out that there are

several of them, perhaps many of them. Pluto isn't even the largest one. There's a dwarf planet called Eris, which is more massive than Pluto.

So we really want to know what are these things, how many of them are there, because that tells us something about the solar system formed and

what it's future could be.

KINKADE: It's quite incredible to think that it's taken since 2006 to now to get to a point where we're approaching Pluto.

What do you think we'll learn in July when we get to the closest point we've ever been to this planet?

BRODY: Well, whatever we learned we're going to have to learn it really fast, because that spacecraft is not going to go into orbit and it's

not going to drop a probe, doesn't have anywhere near enough fuel to do that. So it will whiz by Pluto at about 43,000 kilometers per hour, that's

like 12 klicks a second.

This thing is, oh, two-and-a-half meters across and weighs 480 kilograms, so think of a baby grand piano flying through space much faster

than a speeding bullet that's going to take some quick pictures and do some quick measurements of Pluto on its way by and then trickle that data back

to Earth for a couple of months afterwards.

I think we're going to learn what Pluto and Charon are made of. We're going to learn something about the atmosphere, the atmosphere freezes out

onto the planet when it's at the far points of its highly elliptical orbit in the atmosphere, then blooms again as Pluto gets in a little bit closer

to the sun.

So, really, as I said before, it kind of behaves a little bit like a comet. And we want to know what are these objects and how do they behave?

KINKADE: Fascinating. I'm sure you will be glued to that information as it comes back to us in July.

BRODY: Certainly will be.

KINKADE: And thank you so much for joining us today, we appreciate it.

And NASA's New Horizons spacecraft is also helping to pay homage to the man who discovered Pluto: American Astrophysicist Clyde Tombaugh. His

ashes are on board and headed to the distant dwarf planet. And his daughter says he would have been thrilled with NASA's latest mission.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ANNETTE TOMBAUGH, DAUGHTER OF PLUTO DISCOVERER: When he looked at Pluto it was just a speck of light. To actually see the planet that he had

discovered and find out more about its atmosphere, find out more of what it is and actually get to see the moons of Pluto, he would have been

astounded.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KINKADE: And we're also celebrating another major space milestone. It's been 25 years since NASA's Voyager One captured this iconic image of

Earth from 6 billion kilometers away. Carl Sagan, part of Voyager's imaging team, had the idea to turn the spacecraft around to get a rare

glimpse of the planet. He called it the pale blue dot.

The Voyager images were first -- were the first ever taken of Planets in our solar system from beyond Neptune.

U.S. President wants ideas for stamping out violent extremists and their deadly ideology. Details on the White House summit he's hosting and

what it might accomplish when we come back.

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KINKADE: Welcome back.

The White House is leading a new effort to address violent extremism. Some 60 nations have sent high level representatives to the three day

summit in Washington. The second day of that counterterror summit is about to get underway. And for more on what we can expect from today's meetings,

let's go to CNN's Michelle Kosinski who is at the White House.

Michelle, firstly, we know that ISIS puts out 90,000 tweets a day and they publish their videos on YouTube, all this propaganda. Will they

address social media at this summit?

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, that is going to be a big part of this, because that is one of the biggest problems. As

you mentioned, this spread of this material, how savvy they are, the number of accounts that are able to distribute it quickly, and the way it can get

entrenched into these young communities around the world.

So, that's one of the top priorities really. In fact, the president himself said that that is what has turbo charged ISIS, their use of social

media.

So they're going to be looking at ways to combat that.

And the U.S. government has even now taken a part of the State Department that's devoted to communications and they're going to tailor it

to try to counter extremist propaganda that's out there. We're expecting to hear a lot more on that.

And we're going to wait and see in these public parts of this summit what exactly the plan is to try to do that, because you can see it's going

to be difficult, but part of what's been talked about it not only trying to stop the flow of that, the financing behind it, but also to put out counter

propaganda. Because one of the main points of this really the start of this summit was to try to get at extremism at its root, that's something

that the president said in an op-ed this morning in the L.A. Times that, you know, ultimately getting to the bottom of this is going to be a fight

for hearts and minds and not a military fight, Lynda.

KINKADE: And Michelle, when it comes to dealing with I guess violent extremism on homefront, the federal government has been trialing a counter

violent extremism program in three cities looking at that community approach. What will we hear about from -- what are we going to hear about

that and how that is going and whether that might be implemented further?

KOSINSKI: Yeah, we're waiting to hear more on that, too.

I mean, these programs are very new. So you have to look at it skeptically if they're going to be put out there as some kind of shining

example. I mean, we want to hear about what exactly seem to be working out there and what isn't working and how do you determine whether it's working.

So they're going to look at those cases in three different cities. But it's not just nationwide that they're going to be looking at community

based examples, it's also international.

So they want to have this discussion with community leaders and people from various segments of society, not just in America but in other

countries to try to share that information.

I think again with the skeptical eye, you can look at this and say, OK, great, it's a summit. It's a big governmental meeting. People talking

about countering violent extremism. What good is that really going to do. But the premise here is that sharing information and trying to figure out

what could be working really can't be a bad thing, Lynda.

KINKADE: Yeah, it'll be an interesting summit. They've got a lot of big problems to solve. Michelle Kosinski at the White House. Thanks so

much for joining us.

And that does it for us here at News Stream. I'm Lynda Kinkade. But don't go anywhere, World Sport with Amanda Davies is up next.

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