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Storm Devastates Vanuatu Island Chain; GOP Senators' Letter to Iranian Leader Draws Controversy; Secret Service Agents under Investigation for Driving Incident; Protests Continue in Ferguson, Missouri; Company Promotes Artificial Intelligence as Means for Making Medical Diagnoses; Trial of Boston Bomber Continues; "The Gospel of Judas" Examined; Baby Saved from Wreck

Aired March 14, 2015 - 14:00   ET

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MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, they're very excited about arriving. They arrive I think on Tuesday, Fredricka. So we'll wait to see the reaction is. He also talked a bit about this upcoming next royal baby, which I'm sure we'll be covering.

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: You know we're going to be covering. You're probably going to be right there in the delivery room giving us another exclusive.

FOSTER: Please, no!

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WHITFIELD: Wouldn't that be something. All right, Max Foster, thank you so much. We are going to be watching, of course, this evening Max's interview with Prince Charles tonight at 7:30 right here on CNN.

And we have so much more straight ahead in the Newsroom, and it all starts right now.

Happening now in the Newsroom.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It looks like an absolute -- devastating.

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WHITFIELD: Packing winds of 150 miles per hour cyclone Pam is turning in the South Pacific. And so far at least six people have been killed and an island nation devastated.

And two days after two officers are shot and injured in Ferguson, Missouri, the suspect or suspects are still at large. Police are chasing several new leads today as the manhunt continues.

And is it an overblown incident or a cover up? New questions today about why two Secret Service agents are being investigated after allegations of drunken driving on White House property.

You're live in the CNN Newsroom. Hello again, everyone, and thanks so much for joining me. I'm

Fredricka Whitfield.

Devastation and destruction today in part of the South Pacific, an island paradise has been turned into a complete disaster zone. Vanuatu was slammed by a deadly storm as powerful as a category five hurricane, and at least six people were killed and 20 injured after tropical cyclone Pam took direct aim at the capital city of Port Vila. Lynda Kinkade has more.

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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: These are the sounds of wind gusts of up to 200 miles per hour as cyclone Pam slammed into the South Pacific island of Vanuatu, endangering the lives of up to 250,000 people.

CHARLIE DAMON, CARE INTERNATIONAL: It looks like absolute devastation here. And we did manage to get this afternoon to really get an idea of how that devastation is. And we're talking uprooted trees, roofs are ripped off everywhere.

CHLOE MORRISON, WORLD VISION: Port Vila looks like an absolute bomb has hit it. It is devastating. I'm just been for a drive around what you can drive through because there are a lot of roads that are blocked off. Trees have fallen across in piles so high in some places you can barely see over the top. And the water is incredibly rough. And there are some villages that have been just absolutely decimated. There are local huts which are made of thatched roofs and they've been absolutely blown away.

ANDREW PARKER, ACTING UNICEF CHIEF OF VANUATU: Most of us in the hotel ended up sleeping underneath the facilities in the bathroom. I've been through many cyclones including category five Larry in 2006. This was phenomenal, and it just went on and on forever.

KINKADE: Pam is one of the strongest cyclones ever to hit the region. People took cover in churches and schools. The capital city to Port Vila, home to nearly a sixth of the population, suffered flooding and power cuts. At a conference in Japan Vanuatu's president said he spoke with a heavy heart as he made an appeal for international healthy.

PRESIDENT BALDWIN LONSDALE, VANUATU: I'm speaking with you today with a heart that is so heavy. I do not really know what impact cyclone Pam has left on Vanuatu.

DAMON: We're heading to evacuation centers and we're working with the government here to look at how can we provide the shelters and all the agencies on the ground.

KINKADE: It may take weeks before the full extent of the damage is known.

Lynda Kinkade, CNN. (END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: Let's bring in CNN's Tom Sater right now.

TOM SATER, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It is horrible.

WHITFIELD: Really devastating.

SATER: Think of the damage from super storm Sandy or hurricane Katrina, Isabel, Isaac, and even Andrew down in Florida. This is stronger than all of them. And a lot of these villages don't even have a cinder block or a stone. This is crazy.

I'll tell you where we are. Here is the west coast of the U.S. You can see Hawaii. We're going to slide out to the South Pacific, the Coral Sea across northern areas of Australia, warmest waters on the planet right now. This week in the World Weather Center over at CNN International we were covering four different cyclones. Cyclone, typhoon up to the north, hurricane, it's all the same. They just spin in another direction down in the south.

Look at the winds speeds and notice the purple here. The strongest winds are on the east side. So that's important to note. This is still a massive storm but its' sliding away from the islands. When you look at the storm, Port Vila, this is the capital city, 50,000 live there, took a direct hit. Early on a path earlier in the week wanted to split the difference between Vanuatu and Fiji, but we started seeing a trend overland. Two islands down 1,200 people live there. It's a very strong village, large village, without one brick in the community. So they're outdoors. They are susceptible. It's a vulnerable area.

Get this, storm surge 26 feet. We had winds up to 200 miles per hour, a category five equivalent strength. And this is not only the strongest to hit Vanuatu. This is the strongest that we have seen, the second strongest, I should mention, in the entire South Pacific in the history of records.

Vanuatu, here is Port Vila, Fiji is on the edge of the screen here. So as we get into the area, just to give you a little indication. There are homes all along the coastline. Why not? You're in paradise. Look at the population. This is Vila Bay with the storm surge coming up from the south. There are 82 islands, about 60 are inhabited. But many locations again are thatch roofs. And it's going to take not just days. It's going to take weeks to find out the damage and get the death toll, which no doubt is going to rise because it was so strong.

It is diving to the south. It's getting into cooler water now. They're watching on the north island of New Zealand. So as we keep our eye on that our thoughts are with them. First thing they have to do is they have to clear the runway.

WHITFIELD: Yes, because there is no getting in there, period. Debris is everywhere. Horrible. All right, Tom, thank you so much. That was a very comprehensive, great report. Appreciate it. All right, right now police in Ferguson, Missouri are desperately

trying to find the suspect who shot two officers during a protest at a Ferguson police department. Police are chasing leads, canvassing the streets, and talking to citizens. Police were fired on at the end of the Wednesday night protest and one officer was shot in the face, another in the shoulder.

Let's bring in Stephanie Elam in Ferguson. So Stephanie, how are the officers who were shot? How are they doing? And where is the investigation?

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So Fred, unbelievably both of those officers, even the one shot in the face, have been released from the hospital and are recovering at home.

On the investigation side, though, that continues around the clock. Law enforcement is saying that they're searching for whoever is behind shooting these officers. They say that they have interviewed several people around and talked to witnesses, and they're looking for any clues to who might this be. They do not have anyone in custody at this point, but they continue to work throughout the community to see if they can pinpoint who it is and keep these conversations going to find out who is behind shooting them.

At the same time, you saw out here last night there were people out here protesting. There are people out here protesting on two sides. You saw people protesting the Ferguson police department and there were also people out here who were supporting the police department, supporting law enforcement. And, also, some saying they support the mayor of Ferguson as well, James Knowles. There have been calls, though, that he should step down after this DOJ report taking a look what happens happening in Ferguson. He says, though, he's not going anywhere. This is what he told our Sara Sidner.

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SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Why should they trust you since you were here during all of the madness that has unfolded in the city?

JAMES KNOWLES, MAYOR, FERGUSON, MISSOURI: Sure. I can tell you this. There's ways to remove me if that's the will of the people. I've stood for office five times over the last decade and won every time. This past time less than a year ago now I was unanimously, or, rather, unopposed for officer.

SIDNER: So you're not going anywhere is what you're telling us?

KNOWLES: Unless the residents decide to remove me. But right now that's not the indication that I get.

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ELAM: Now, we have heard that there are some organizations that are working to see if they can get those signatures here in Ferguson, nothing official with the city just yet. And as far as the protests out here at the police station, right now

it's calm, but at night we do see people out here no matter the weather is like. They're still coming out here to protest. But what we did see last night was a conversation between law enforcement officials as well as people who were out there to protest. And many say that they do not want to be caught up with the people who are out here doing the shooting and doing the agitating. They just want to see change here in Ferguson and they do not believe that's the way that things are going to get better, Fred.

WHITFIELD: Stefanie Elam, thank you so much, from Ferguson, Missouri.

Next, Secretary Kerry is getting ready to face Iranian officials for talks on a nuclear deal just days after Iran's supreme leader blasted that letter from Republican senators. How Kerry says it could impact talks, next.

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WHITFIELD: The clock is ticking as Secretary of State John Kerry heads into the next round of nuclear talks with Iran. Kerry is trying to get a deal done by the end of the month and he's going to Switzerland tomorrow to meet with Iran's foreign minister. In Egypt today Kerry slammed the letter 47 Republican senators sent to Iran. It said any nuclear deal might not last if it doesn't have Congressional support. Iran's supreme leader also lashed out, calling the letter trickery. And today Kerry said it could become an obstacle.

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JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: We have heard some comments from the supreme leader regarding the letter that was sent by the 47 senators. And until I engage in those conversations, I cannot gauge on a personal level that reaction, though I can tell you from common sense that when the United States Senate sends a letter such as 47 senators chose to send the other day, it is a direct interference.

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WHITFIELD: I'm joined now by Stephen Collinson, a senior reporter for CNN Politics. So Stephen, good to see you. Could this letter really have a significant impact on negotiations?

STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: Yes, I think it could, because it could affect the concessions that Iran's negotiators are prepared to make in the talks in Switzerland that John Kerry will be attending tomorrow.

You know, there's this clear opposition to the deal in Congress, and if you are in the position of an Iranian negotiator, you might think that this deal has possibly not gotten much chance of surviving beyond the presidency of Barack Obama, that when a new president, possibly a Republican, comes in in 2017 that this deal could die. So I think it could affect the concessions Iran is prepared to make, or the Iranian negotiators could give the impression they believe the deal won't last and they can use that idea as leverage in the talks.

WHITFIELD: You know, at the same time it seems like it's pretty public knowledge the world over what kind of relationship the president has with members of Congress and that this just, you know, further exemplifies the tension between those two branches of government. But why would it be the feeling this would impact a negotiation between two countries when it's the president -- when it's the leader of one country and the leader of another?

COLLINSON: Right, because sooner or later Congress is going to get to weigh in on the deal. The administration has decided not to negotiate a treaty, which would mean it would have to submit the deal for Congress and get to get a two-thirds majority in the Senate of approval. So it's negotiating an executive agreement and so it's within its rights within the constitution to do that.

But sooner or later the Congress is going to be asked to lift some sanctions on Iran in return for Iran remaining about a year away from the point where it can build a nuclear weapon. That's the whole point of this deal. So the president for the next two years can use his power to lift presidential sanctions. He can ask U.S. partners to lift their international sanctions on Iran. But sooner or later Congress will be asked to lift those sanctions. And right now it's clear there's not a majority in Congress to do so. It's not just Republicans. There's a bunch of Democrats in the Senate too who believe this is going to be a bad deal. But it's not going to keep Iran from having the infrastructure that one day it could use to build a nuclear weapon. So sooner or later whether it's now or in two- year's time, Congress is going to have to weigh in on this.

WHITFIELD: And of the 47 Republicans, are any of them backing away now from the letter after the backlash?

COLLINSON: Some of them have sort of said it was done a little bit too quickly. Maybe there should have been more thought about this. I have talked to some people, some Republican sources up on Capitol Hill, and they say it might have been a mistake for Senator Tom cotton and the others to address this letter directly to Iran because it looks like they were trying to interfere in the process.

WHITFIELD: Why wouldn't they have thought of that beforehand, before actually signing it?

COLLINSON: That's a good point. They could have addressed the letter to all the six nations as well as the United States that are taking part in these talks. What happened in practice was the fact they addressed Iran took some of the tension away from the fact, the arguments they were making. They were saying it was a bad deal. They were saying that Congress couldn't sign on to this. So, in fact, they may have diminished their impact.

And I think you can say that both this letter and the visit to the United States in the speech to Congress by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel a couple of weeks ago has made some Democrats who are skeptical of this deal nevertheless sort of coalesce around the president. They don't want to go against their president on this point even though they like the deal. And paradoxically these things have actually given President Obama more leverage.

WHITFIELD: Stephen Collinson, thank you so much in Washington, appreciate it.

COLLINSON: Thanks.

WHITFIELD: And of course you can follow Stephen's reporting on this at CNN.com/Politics. And we'll be right back right after this.

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RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Money, for centuries cash was king, but no more. If there's one place in mobile world congress where this doesn't count, it's the mobile payments section. Instead of the filthy stuff in your pocket, here it's all about digital ways to pay.

Time for a snack. Of course my phone is my vehicle to my stomach. Let's go for a Coca Cola. And I'm going to buy, it's going to take it off this, but I'm logged in now. So I'm logged in. It's processing the payment. And here is the man who makes it run. Hello, good to see you, sir. This is the future.

FRANCK COHEN, PRESIDENT, SAP MIDDLE EAST AND EUROPE: It is.

QUEST: Tell me why and how.

COHEN: Well, I think that the first thing is it a way to get your snacks. You can also personalize whatever you want to buy, and you use your phone. You don't need to use any cash or any other payment system.

QUEST: What you've done here is you've put a game in front of the experience. Why bother with the game. I just want to buy a drink. What does the game give me?

COHEN: I think the game gives you the idea that the loyalty programs that every retailer has also allows you have a fun experience when you visit the shop.

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WHITFIELD: All right, checking our top stories. A lawyer for the now disbanded Sigma Alpha Epsilon chapter at the University of Oklahoma says -- Oklahoma University, that is, says some of the members have gotten death threats. This after a video surfaced showing a bus full of SAE members taking part in a racist chant. Attorney Stephen Jones says there are no plans right now to sue the university, but it is not clear what legal action might be sought.

And a public funeral will be held today for Tony Robinson in Madison, Wisconsin. The 19-year-old teen was shot and killed by a police officer last week. Robinson was unarmed. Police say Robinson assaulted the officer who then drew his weapon and fired. And two Wisconsin girls will stand trial as adults for allegedly

trying to kill a classmate to please the fictional Internet character Slender Man. And 12-year-old Morgan Geyser and 13-year-old Anissa Weier are charged with attempted homicide for allegedly stabbing the girl 19 times back in May. Each teenager could face up to 65 years in prison if convicted according to the Associated Press.

And still ahead, new questions are being raised about the investigation into two U.S. Secret Service agents who were accused of driving drunk. Could the story be changing? That's next.

But, first, here is this week's CNN Money "Innovate with Rachel Crane."

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RACHEL CRANE: It's a terrifying fact of life -- doctors make mistakes. And that's why artificial intelligence startup Enlitic is turning computers into cancer detecting radiologists.

JEREMY HOWARD, CEO, ENLITIC: What we're trying to accomplish at Enlitic is to create what we call data-driven medicine.

CRANE: And the way you're doing that is with computers, not people.

HOWARD: Yes, that's correct. We use something called machine learning. Machine learning is where you get a computer to figure something out by looking at previous examples. We take the information about you as a patient and compare it to the previous 50 million patients to find the people that have had the exact same symptoms and tests and so forth and figure out, how did they get better? What happened to them? And then we can use that insight to decide how best to treat you.

CRANE: Do you think that this software, that Enlitic can actually help save lives then?

HOWARD: Oh, the software at Enlitic will for sure save lives. It won't just save lives but it will also save a huge amount of stress.

We have algorithms right now that can find earlier and more accurately whether or not you have lung cancer. If we can find out that early, you have a 400 percent better chance of survival.

CRANE: While Enlitic is still in development, its leading edge technology has piqued the interest of doctors like oncologist Igor Barani who is now the company's chief medical officer.

You yourself are a radiation oncologist. Do you think these systems, these computers can read scans more efficiently than you can?

DR. IGOR BARANI, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, ENLITIC: Artificial intelligence is much more consistent and systemic in interpreting these scans. Most of these interpretations by radiologists are just that, subjective interpretations, whereas algorithms are unbiased and then can render an opinion based on the actually features in an image. (END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: Hello again and thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

So what exactly happened at the White House 10 days ago involving U.S. Secret Service agents? Some of the details surrounding this latest scandal are now actually being called into question. Sources tell CNN allegations about drinking and driving may not be true. Joe Clancy, the new head of the Secret Service, is expected to appear on Capitol Hill in the coming days to discuss in large part this incident.

Erin McPike joins me now from the White House. So what more do we know about what did or what didn't happen?

ERIN MCPIKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fred, what we know is that on the evening of March 4th these two senior Secret Service agents were at a party that was about seven blocks away from the White House. It was a retirement party for one of their colleagues. There was drinking, obviously, going on at this party. Whether or not those two Secret Service agents took part in that, we don't actually know those details.

Later in the night those two agents drove a government car back to the White House, and at the time at the border of the White House there was a suspicious area because of some suspicious activity. There was a bomb threat, and there were Secret Service agents investigating that bomb threat. So this car with these two agents drove up to the barricade, nudged an orange barrel, but there was no collision. There was no damage that we know of, no confrontation. And it may even be there was never even an ask for a sobriety test for either of these Secret Service agents. That was, of course, what was initially allegedly, that there had been some suggestion that a sobriety test needed to happen, but a lot of these details are now in dispute.

What we also know is that Joe Clancy, the Secret Service director, was not told about it until five days later. And because of that people are calling into question whether protocols are being followed at Secret Service, whether Clancy can turn around the agency and restore some credibility. Jonathan Wackrow, a former Secret Service agent, was on CNN earlier today, and here is what he had to say about that.

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JONATHAN WACKROW, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Joe Clancy is driving the bus right now. He is the head of this agency. He needs to get ahead of these issues. Everything that has happened in the past, we need to learn from them, we need to move beyond them, and we need to start developing managers within the Secret Service that can move our agency forward.

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MCPIKE: The other thing we need to point out here, Fred, is that Secret Service has not said anything publicly about the incident, none of the details, just they're investigating some alleged misconduct, Fred.

WHITFIELD: And so have those two agents been reassigned? Are they still on duty? What is their status while this investigation carries on?

MCPIKE: Fred, they have been reassigned to other non-operational roles. One was the second in command and charge of protecting the president, and those two agents have been assigned to different jobs.

WHITFIELD: All right, Erin McPike at the White House, thanks so much.

All right, now to the investigation into the shooting two of police officers in Ferguson, Missouri. Investigators say they are following several new leads, but the Ferguson police department may be in for a complete overhaul according to some. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said that he is prepared to dismantle the entire force if that is what it takes to ensure discriminatory police practices targeting African-Americans are obliterated.

Our next guest insists gutting the Ferguson force is a must. Attorney Mark O'Mara writes for CNN.com, writing this, "Everyone in the Ferguson police department needs to leave from the top to the bottom. The police department should be completely reinstituted under Department of Justice control in a manner that ensures that citizens of Ferguson receive the type of public service they pay for and deserve."

CNN legal analyst Mark O'Mara joining us now from Orlando, Florida. All right, good to see you.

MARK O'MARA, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Hey, Fred, good to see you.

WHITFIELD: You're not saying bring in a whole new contracted police force, but you're saying under the Department of Justice, under that entity, should a new police force be brought in. How would that work?

O'MARA: Well, first of all, the reason for it -- I don't mean it as an indictment of each and every cop in Ferguson. But the problem with it is because of what happened in Ferguson, because we focused on Ferguson, we have identified a huge amount of mistrust with police throughout the country, particularly in the black community.

I think that we should look in Ferguson and say, look, we know the Department of Justice report says there's a real legitimate concern and that the black population looking at those concerns are legitimate themselves. So why not take this as an opportunity to go back in, redo it from ground zero, and show everyone throughout the country, not just the black community, that when we find a problem that obviously exists in Ferguson we're going to fix it and we're going to show we can truly do it the right way. Maybe, you know, two years from now we'll look back, Fred, you'll go there and have a special that says "Ferguson P.D. 500 days later" and see we can do it the right way and start rebuilding trust not only in Ferguson where it's really needed but throughout the country.

WHITFIELD: So what about in the interim because that sounds like something, if that is, indeed, a viable option and one that, you know, is likely to come to fruition, that it's still, you know, a long way away. So what, in the meantime, in terms of policing and the community and the building of trust and enforcement and protecting and serving in the interim?

O'MARA: The logistics are going to be very difficult. And I don't make light of what it's going to take. It's going to take some extra money and it's going to take some extra manpower.

So what I suggest in the interim as we build up to it is that we do have Department of Justice involvement oversight. And we might need to bring in new leadership to the Ferguson police department. Again, we might have to have some unintended, quote, "victims" of this new Ferguson police department, but I think that the opportunity cost of having to reconstitute the department is worth the benefit we're going to have.

And I agree this is not an easy process. But look at what we've done for the past seven months in Ferguson, the money that was spent, the emotions that have played out, the concerns that we have. If we can actually bring in the Department of Justice, somebody who can start with a fresh slate, then we're going get them one thing we absolutely have to have, and that is the rebuilding of the trust in the community. It's worth whatever the cost.

WHITFIELD: And has this shooting of two police officers, the injuring of these two police officers, changed the dynamic in any way?

O'MARA: I think evidence is that there is still an ongoing legitimate problem in Ferguson. I think that shooter, that attempted assassin, is a lone actor. I do not think that that was part of the peaceful protest at all. But there is evidence that there was an enormous amount of emotions still wrapped around Ferguson and that if we do it affirmatively we may have a positive result. And if we try to use a Band-Aid, then those people who want to take advantage of the situation, like the attempted assassin, are still going to do it.

WHITFIELD: Mark O'Mara, thank you so much from Orlando. Good to see you.

O'MARA: Sure.

WHITFIELD: All right, still to come, stunning video released during the Boston bombing trial, the car-jacking victim of the Tsarnaev brothers running for his life at a gas station and begging for help. The story is next.

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WHITFIELD: Testimony resumes Monday in the death penalty trial of admitted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. So far 50 witnesses have told their stories. The images of human suffering they have shared are so heart-wrenching that many in the courtroom gasp or everyone, you know, have tears. CNN's Deborah Feyerick has more on the trial so far and the video prosecutors are using to build their case. DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Fred, people in the

courtroom were on the edge of their seats listening to the calm, understated testimony of a man who led investigators to the marathon bombers, possibly preventing another attack.

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FEYERICK: These are the images the jury saw last, 27-year-old Dun Meng carjacked by the Boston bombers, racing away from his captors, franticly begging a store clerk to call 9-11 before crawling to a storeroom to hide.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just quickly, just quick, they have guns. They want to shoot me.

FEYERICK: It was the break Boston had been waiting for since the marathon attack three days earlier. Meng testified that Tamerlan Tsarnaev pointed a gun at him and asked "Do you know the Boston Marathon explosion? I did it, and I just killed a policeman in Cambridge." That policeman, MIT officer Sean Collier, was shot six times, once between the eyes. Surveillance video shows two shadowy figures identified as Tamerlan and Dzhokhar approaching the cruiser. The brake lights flashed as the brothers tried to steal Collier's gun. The confrontation lasts 50 seconds before the brothers run away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It sounds like somebody is hitting a trash can really loud.

FEYERICK: Prosecutors laid out their case in painstaking detail, showing the jury how the investigation unfolded with the FBI releasing these images of the suspected bombers, two men in baseball hats carrying backpacks walking together through marathon crowds. Dzhokar stops first, taking his place behind several families and children. Tamerlan walks to the finish line where he stands just below the red and white flag. Several minutes later at 2:49 p.m. Dzhokhar calls his brother.

And then Dzhokhar begins to quickly move away from the backpack he left on the ground. As his bomb detonates energy seems to push him forward. Tamerlan is captured on bank surveillance video walking away. The wounded lay shattered, torn open on the ground. Three people are dead, 30 are so severely wounded they are clinging to life.

The jury heard from trauma nurse Jessica Kensky, who saw her husband's detached leg and tried to help him, not realizing she herself was on fire. Prosecutors showed her burned clothing. "It matches my scars," she testified, both of her legs now am amputated.

Then 23 minutes after the terror attack, across the Charles River in Cambridge, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev enters the Whole Foods and pays cash for a half gallon of milk. That night he tweets "Ain't no love in the heart of the city. Stay safe people." Within 72 hours Tamerlan would be dead and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev would be hiding in a dry dock boat writing a manifesto explaining why he and his brother did what they did.

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FEYERICK: Tsarnaev's lawyers have barely cross-examined any of the witnesses and did not dispute any of the images linked either to the carjacking or to the MIT shooting. Fred?

WHITFIELD: Thank you so much, Deborah Feyerick there in Boston.

Straight ahead, the body cam video that shows the rescue of baby Lily. She was trapped in a car for up to 14 hours. Hear the reaction from the rescuers as they find her, coming up.

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WHITFIELD: All right now to a religious document that many Christians have never heard of, "The Gospel of Judas." Tomorrow night our new CNN series "Finding Jesus" takes a look at the manuscript. And it could hold new revelations about Judas' betrayal and the life of Jesus.

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FRIEDA TCHACOS, ANTIQUITIES DEALER: Jesus wanted to be sacrificed. He asked Judas to betray him and Judas says, "Why me?" Jesus said "Because you're the closest to me. I beg you to do it."

PROF. CANDIDA MOSS, UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME: He understands what is happening. He's helping Jesus. He knows that because of what he has to do he's going to be hated forever.

DAVID GIBSON, CO-AUTHOR, "FINDING JESUS": Judas is doing what Jesus wants him to do. Look, God sent Jesus to die for the sins of mankind. Someone has to betray him. Someone has to fulfill this mission. Jesus is saying I have to die on the cross in order to do what I was sent here to do.

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WHITFIELD: Wow. I want to bring in Byron McCane now, the chairman of the Department of Religion at Wofford College and an archeologist who is featured in the CNN series "Finding Jesus". All right, so tell us more about this. This is a very different story, you know, this Gospel of Judas. How did this come about?

BYRON MCCANE, CHAIRMAN, DEPARTMENT OF RELIGION, WOFFORD COLLEGE: Well, "The Gospel of Judas surfaced on the antiquities market several years ago, so it doesn't come from a controlled archaeological excavation. And that's the first of the interesting problems it presents. It's in terrible condition. It wasn't taken proper care of. So there are places where it's impossible to even read the text. Where we can read it, scholars disagree on what it actually says. But what it might say is that Judas was doing what Jesus wanted, that he's not the bad guy.

WHITFIELD: But instead he's a good guy, he's a hero?

MCCANE: Hero might be a bit of an overstatement, but that he was doing what Jesus wanted. This is unprecedented in early Christian history before.

WHITFIELD: And was there even any doubt from you all, the filmmakers, that this is real, authentic, that it is a story worth telling? Did you all feel at all reticent?

MCCANE: No, I think the public really enjoys seeing what the cutting edge of scholarship is. It's kind of boring to see someone pontificate about what they're sure of. But my students at the college where I teach are like this. You show them where the edge of our knowledge is and they really get interested. And this is the edge of our knowledge. From my point of view "The Gospel of Judas" is not likely to be a forgery. But figuring out what it means is really quite complicated.

WHITFIELD: And what has this journey been like, because most people like they know. They have all the answers. They read the bible. They have read the history books. They listened to scholars such as yourself. But now this series has been rather enlightening for many who thought they knew it all.

MCCANE: It has been precisely because we're asking these questions that aren't often put out there in public. What was the relationship between John the Baptist and Jesus? We talked about that last week. And then this week Judas, maybe not a bad guy? Now, of course, there's evidence and logic that we're going to invite the viewers to think about with us. For example, "The Gospel of Judas" comes from 300 years after Jesus and Judas. Does a document that is that late tell us much about what happened 300 years earlier? Maybe, maybe not.

WHITFIELD: All right, this has been exciting. You have four more installments or three more to go?

MCCANE: Judas and then three more.

WHITFIELD: Wow. And personally, for you, has this been very rewarding?

MCCANE: It's been very rewarding. I enjoy the chance to talk to the general public about what I can get to do. Yes, it's always fun.

WHITFIELD: Fantastic. We're learning a lot. Byron McCane, thank you so much. And of course watch "Finding Jesus" tomorrow night 9:00 eastern time right here on CNN. What a pleasure.

And we'll be right back. Thanks so much.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pass her up! Pass her up!

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WHITFIELD: Incredible. That is the moment that baby Lily just 18- months old was rescued from her deceased mother's overturned and partially submerged car. The story made national headlines, and thanks to a police officer's body camera, we're seeing dramatic images of this rescue for the very first time. CNN's Shasta Darlington has been following this story and joins us now from New York. So Shasta, this really is amazing to watch.

SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It really is. It hammers home exactly why they're calling Lily the miracle baby. And it gives us an inside look into what these rescue workers go through, the quick decisions they have to make, and shows us not only the physical but also the emotional efforts that they put in. They just didn't give up.

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DARLINGTON: New body cam video from one of the Spanish Fork officers as he rushes to the overturned car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you got? What do you got?

DARLINGTON: You can hear their desperation as they try to flip the car. They soon discover 25-year-old Lynn Jennifer Groesbeck dead until the driver's seat. But they do find a survivor. They pull a tiny body from the wreckage and run up the hill.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's definitely hypothermic. She's freezing.

DARLINGTON: Patting her back and willing her to live. They perform baby CPR and rush her into the hospital. Eighteen-month old Lily was submerged in the car in the frigid Spanish Fork River in Utah for about 14 hours. She had survived hanging upside down in the freezing temperatures in the upper 20s with no food or water.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If anything had been different she might not have made it.

DARLINGTON: Bock Royal was the emergency room doctor who saw Lily when she was rushed in.

BOCK ROYAL, DOCTOR, MOUNT VIEW HOSPITAL: You can see how pale she is and how cold and stiff her arm is. Four days later baby Lily playing along as her father sings "Old McDonald" in the hospital, the best reward possible for those who fought so hard to save her.

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DARLINGTON: We've had some good news from the Spanish Fork Police Department. Lily has left the hospital and police were actually able to visit her with her family. They say she's happy and healthy and temporarily living with her aunts and uncle, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh, that's so uplifting. But then what about the car accident. Is there an explanation as to why the car went off the road in the first place?

DARLINGTON: You know, they're still investigating that. They say they believe that her mother was on her way home. But I think one of the more impressive things here is just when they first found Lily she didn't have a pulse. And so the fact they kept on applying CPR, they didn't give up, I think what makes me think most about this is just knowing that whatever kind of accident that people are going to -- these workers going to work just as hard for us, I hope, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh, certainly. That's an amazing story. And it really says a lot about the will to live for the little baby Lily as well. Shasta Darlington, thank you so much, appreciate it.

All right, that's going to do it for me. Thanks so much for being with me all afternoon long. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. Much more of the NEWSROOM straight ahead with Poppy Harlow.