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State of Emergency In South Pacific After Tropical Cyclone Pam Strikes Vanuatu; Missouri Authorities Working Round The Clock To Find Person Who Shot Two Ferguson Police Officers; Three Men Accused Of Plot To Join ISIS Have Pleaded Not Guilty To Terrorism Charges; Prince Charles Opens Up About Love Life And Marriage To Camilla

Aired March 14, 2015 - 15:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right, that is going to do it for me. Thanks so much for being with me all afternoon long. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

More of the NEWSROOM straight ahead with Poppy Harlow.

POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: You are in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow, joining you from New York this afternoon.

And we begin with a state of emergency in the south pacific after tropical cyclone Pam struck the island chain of Vanuatu with a furry of a category five hurricane, that's what it was equivalent to.

The damage has ton even the relief workers there who say the capital city of Port Villa looks like a bomb went off. At least six people are dead. That number will likely rise as search teams comb through the area where you see has absolutely destroyed. There is no power. There is no portable water. Trees are down in droves.

The storm hit virtually all of the nation's 83 islands located hundreds of miles off of the coast of Australia. Our Lynda Kinkade now has more.

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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is the sound of wind gusts of up to 200 miles per hour as cyclone Pam slammed into the pacific island of Vanuatu endangering the lives of nearly 250,000 people.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We worked (INAUDIBLE). And we did time to get out (INAUDIBLE). It's absolute devastation here. There's uprooted trees. Palms (ph) have been ripped off everywhere. Roads are blocked (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It looks like an absolute -- it is devastating. I'm just driving around where you can drive through because there are a lot of roads that are blocked off. Trees haven't just fallen across the road here, they have fallen across -- in some places that you can barely see over the top. The water is incredibly rough. And there are some villages that have just been absolutely decimated. There are local huts which are native thatched roofs and walls as well. They've been absolutely blown away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Most of us in the hotel ended up sleeping underneath the facilities in the bathroom. I've been through many typhoons including category five Larry in 2006. This was phenomenal. And it just went on and on forever.

KINKADE: Pam is one of the strongest cyclones ever to hit the region. People took cover in churches and schools. The capital city of Port Villa homes to nearly six million in population suffered flooding and power cuts. In at a conference in Japan, Vanuat's president said he spoke with the heavy heart as he made an appeal for international help.

BALDWIN LONSDALE, VANUATU'S PRESIDENT: I'm speaking with you today with a heart that is so heavy. I don't really know what impact cyclone Pam have left of Vanuatu.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is no power. There is no water. And (INAUDIBLE) evacuation centers and we're working with the government how can we provide shelters? All the agencies on the ground.

KINKADE: It may take weeks before the full extent of the damage is known.

Linda Kinkade, CNN.

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HARLOW: Well, the pictures really say it all. In a stunning consequence, our owned Bill Weir who is with me now, was just in Vanuatu who is reporting for his series, "the wonder list." You spent a lot of time there, a lot of time with the locals. So we saw the pictures. Talk to me about overall what the infrastructure is like there.

BILL WEIR, CNN HOST, THE WONDER LIST: Well, it's deceiving because we were seeing Port Vila.

HARLOW: The biggest city.

WEIR: The Biggest city. I mean, that is the capital. And then they, by our standards, have relatively modern facilities there. But so many islands are living in the past, and, I mean, no concrete on any of these places. And we went there for that reason. These folks are right on the edge of development. They're deciding what is best for them whether tourism is a way to go. And it's easy to romanticize their life and paradise when the sun is shining.

But Poppy, you can imagine -- I mean, that is the prime minister (INAUDIBLE). Right behind him is abandoned tree. That is shelter in a lot of these villages.

HARLOW: You said some of the people even live in the trees.

WEIR: Exactly. Yes. There are tree-houses. I'm picturing, you know, (INAUDIBLE), this beautiful little place where we went. There's a church there with a tin roof. I'm picturing these people huddled inside there under the volcano, (INAUDIBLE). We went into one of the schools. But it's getting through the 200 miles per hour-winds in a house like that where the little girls live is one thing. But then afterwards when you think about these are folks who every day wake up and decide whether to fish or pick their meal.

HARLOW: They're self-sufficient. And I know that they told you this is among their chief concerns. It's something like this could happen.

WEIR: Absolutely. That there was a big one in the '30s that really rearranged the communities on different islands because people couldn't no longer live on low-lying (INAUDIBLE). This will be -- I can only imagine and shudder to think about how it's going to change their lives.

HARLOW: Can you tell me it was like for you and your crew, small crew, not a ton of camera equipment, not relief of supplies to get there? And what is it going to mean for the relief and aid workers.

WEIR: So, you know, from here it takes three days. But you know, from Australia, it's about a four and a half flight into Port Villa. The airport there, the runways are shorter than they would like. So it's a limited, you know, size plane can get in there. Ships, of course, can dock. But then to get to the outer islands like (INAUDIBLE), like Yanna (ph), these are little grass airstrips that can only take small Cessnas (ph). So even if they loaded, you know, the biggest possible plane full of water and food --

HARLOW: A lot will have to come by ship and it will take time.

WEIR: Yes. And that will take time.

HARLOW: That will take a while.

WEIR: Exactly.

HARLOW: One sort of upside to this is what was surprising to you, and I think to everyone watching is the communication, the cell service, if they do -- for the people that do have cell phones is actually quite good, so for notification.

WEIR: In theory, yes. It surprised me. But again, when the sign was shining, I heard some reports from some folks who are on the ground there who said that maybe one tower survived. That they're rated for a category three. This is a five. So that amazing signal I got on the top of the rock that who knows? And you know, we've sent emails to all of our friends and who knows how long before they are able to recharge in order to check.

HARLOW: Absolutely. And we know, I mean, early numbers six dead but that's likely going to rise and a number in there, just when you look at the picture.

WEIR: Hearts are breaking. And -- but I do -- if I do have a second, because so many people who saw that original wonder list have asked. If you go to CNN.com/impact you can help. There's the best NGOs in that part of the world who are ready to help as soon as they can.

HARLOW: Bill Weir, thank you very much. Appreciate your perspective.

WEIR: Thank you Poppy.

HARLOW: Again, go to CNN.com/impact. You can donate. You can help in any way possible. It would be greatly appreciated.

All right, let me go to Tom Sater, our meteorologist joining me now from the CNN weather center.

Tom, when we talk about this storm, I think the question a lot of people have now it's done the damage on Vanuatu, where does it go next?

TOM SATER, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, it's dropping down toward areas of New Zealand. They have plenty. There are warnings there. It's not going to be near as strong as it was. But as we watch our location now, and I'll show you where -- here is Hawaii. The warmest waters in the world right now are in the south pacific across the coral sea, across top end of Australia.

At one time this week we had four systems that we have been watching. It's extremely active. In fact, one moved to Western Australia, one to the north, this is Nathan. We have what will be most likely a typhoon heading toward the Philippines. But you can see the strongest one and the largest one.

Hurricanes and cyclones, they are all the same. This is what we are watching. But notice the colors of purple here. Because what we are going to find here are the winds are the strongest. Keep in mind in the southern hemisphere they circulate clock wise, much different. But if you think of the damage of super storm Sandy, if you think of Katrina or Isaac, even Andrew in Florida, this one is much more powerful.

So Port Vila, that's the capital 50,000 live there, 65,000 in the island, but you get down in the southern islands as well. And that's where another 33,000. So the hardest hit area where the eye went through affecting 100,000 people. There's a quarter million that live in this island chain. So that's what we're watching. We had 26 foot storm surge and most of the locations very vulnerable on the coastline. Obviously, as you seen and talking with Bill, they just don't have the structures that is needed. It's going to take weeks to find not only the death toll but to give aid to everyone who is going to need it. Devastating story.

HARLOW: Absolutely devastating.

Thank you so much, Tom. We appreciate it. We'll stay with you for the latest throughout the evening.

Again, it you want to help go to CNN.com/impact.

Coming up next search for whom ever shot two Ferguson police officers.

Also, what kind of gun could have been so precise from so far away? We're going to have a report on that coming up next.

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HARLOW: Police in Ferguson, Missouri working around the clock hoping to identify whoever shot two police officers on Wednesday night. The reward for information now sits at $10,000, much of which came from public donations and that number could grow as more people donate.

Investigators say so far they have come up short in the manhunt. But they do say they're pursuing several leads that they may even have a correct lead on whoever fired the shots.

Let's bring David Klinger. He is a professor of criminologist and criminal justice at the University of Missouri, also former LAPD officer.

David, thanks for being with me.

DAVID KLINGER, FORMER LOS ANGELES POLICE OFFICER: Thanks for having me.

HARLOW: Just some background for our viewers here, you were a former police officer back in 1981. You and your partner were involved in this incident. Your partner was attacked, stabbed. You ultimately ended up killing that suspect in south L.A. So not only do you have that background experience, but you're also right there in Ferguson. What is the reaction to these two officers being shot on Wednesday night? And I wonder if you're surprised that there have been no arrests yet.

KLINGER: First of all, in terms of reaction, there's a reaction in the law enforcement community. Speak with my friends who are in law enforcement still, you know, I left some 30 years ago, but at any rate, a great deal of concern and a sense of what it takes so long. And what I mean by that is law enforcement officers here have been listening to the chants, you know, "kill the cops" on so forth, follow social media. And they're kind surprised that it took this long. And so they're very saddened, but they're not surprised.

Then the community, obviously, I have a lot of contacts in the community as well, not law enforcement. And there is a great deal of concern about the dangers officers face. And so the community is largely rallying around the officers.

HARLOW: Let me ask you this, so many of the protesters have been peaceful protesters. And we've heard a lot of them including the family of Mike Brown come out and condemn this violent act calling it heinous. This shouldn't happen. So -- a lot of protesters say, look, those shots didn't come from within our ranks.

All though, it's also important to have a strong relationship between the police force and the community, especially when you need information from the community about who may have fired the shots.

KLINGER: Absolutely. And in terms of the peaceful protesters versus the groups I've been calling for months the knuckle heads, there are some very bad actors who are mixed up along with the peaceful protesters. And even during the first rioting, during August and then in November again there were bad actors who were doing bad things who were firing shots. We're not quite sure who they were aiming at. Fortunately as indicated officers weren't struck. But as you point out, being able to keep a positive vent between the police and a majority of the community is very important.

And it in terms of developing leads, as you pointed out, that's vital. People generally do want to come forward. They generally do want to assist police catching violent felons particularly those after police officers. But we have to remember there are some bad people out there who aren't going to want to help.

HARLOW: Let me ask you one more question very quickly before I let you go. The statistics that came out in December report shows that the number of police officers across this country shot in the line of duty increased more than 50 percent in 2014. The officers you know in Los Angeles, in Missouri, across this country, are they scared?

KLINGER: No, they're not scared. They understand that it's a dangerous job when they took it on but they're concerned. They're concerned about the heightened rhetoric. They're concerned about people marching through the streets of New York, for example, saying what do we want? We want dead caps. This is bad stuff that needs to be condemned roundly by everybody. And not just in the wake of a situation officers are shot. People need to be proactively condemning these fools.

HARLOW: David Klinger, good to have you on the program. Thank you for being with me, sir.

KLINGER: Thank you for having me.

HARLOW: Well, part of the investigation in Ferguson involves figuring out what kind of weapon was used in the shooting. Officers report seeing muzzle flashes about 125 yards away.

Our Gary Tuchman went to a shooting range to find out how feasible would it really be for a rightful or a pistol to be that accurate at that distance.

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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): At the advance bullets of door gun range in Temple, Georgia, we come to find out about long distance weapon firing and accuracy for rifles and pistol at 145 yards. The distance police in Missouri believe a bullet traveled to wound two police officers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: his ammunition is 308.

TUCHMAN: A 308 caliber. This rifle is a Remington 700, a traditional deer hunting rifle. The target is about 100 yards away, about the same presumed range as the Ferguson gunshots. For a short lesson, I take a shot.

Against my shoulder and here we go. I think that's a good shot.

Indeed the bullet hits the target first try, a direct hit. Same results with the second shot. So there's no question such a rifle is capable of the shootings in Missouri. What about a pistol? Not as high powered and designed for closer range. This is a glock nine millimeters.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Typically we don't shoot handguns past 10-meters.

TUCHMAN: Which is about 11 yards. But our instructor Rick Ashworth will aim for the range's farthest target.

This is 110 yards with a pistol. The bullet barely misses the target. The pistol doesn't have a scope and isn't as accurate as the rifle. It certainly would have hit somebody standing in a group at that distance. There's no question someone up to a no good who has a pistol can fire it and had go 125 yards.

RICK ASHWORTH, INSTRUCTOR: Yes. The bullet would go that far.

TUCHMAN: How far could the bullet go? It could go much farther?

ASHWORTH: It could go a lot much further. It could go 200, 300. But as strong as that bullet, strong are drop after a certain distance.

TUCHMAN: And for that reason the pistol is to be slightly tilted up to hit the intended target at that distance.

There's also the possibility that in Ferguson, someone could have taken a wild shot simply in the direction of the officers not intending to hit them, just hoping to scare them through the crowd. And that would be a bad idea.

ASHWORTH: (INAUDIBLE) is number one. There's no more important rule or no more important thing to gun ownership than gun safety.

TUCHMAN: Someone nearly everyone in Ferguson, Missouri would agree with.

Gary Tuchman, CNN Temple, Georgia.

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HARLOW: Gary, thank you for that report.

Coming up machine gun America. That is what it's called. It is a theme park for gun lovers. Even children are allowed. We'll talk about that next.

Also, why terrorists are targeting Minneapolis, Minnesota trying to recruit fighters there.

But before that, two months into the fit nation challenge, out Dr. Sanjay Gupta checks in on a married couple trying to get in shape together.

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DOCTOR SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: How important is this to do together?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, accountability is huge. And I feel like we would hold each other accountable. We have the same goals. Like, if you don't want to work out one day but I do, let me help motivate you.

Is this going to be more supporting each other or this is going to be some friendly competition?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a little better --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is awesome.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know I think I really just want to support each other. I just want to make it fun for both of us and help one another.

GUPTA: Your husband. What you most concerned about?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For us to stay on track to make sure we stick with it. I think having that team support and knowing four other members are doing it with us, too. That's a pretty cool thing.

GUPTA: Any doubt tight now that she is have any difficulty crossing the finish line?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you know, concern because she had a little back surgery last year, a disc bulge. Ad you know, she was delivering babies all the time. And it is not easy. And I was a little concern but she has the strongest work ethic I have ever seen. So I don't doubt she'll finish. We may have challenges but there's no one that can outwork her. I'm excited. I know she'll finish.

GUPTA: We'll cross the finish line together.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That sounds good!

(END VIDEOTAPE)

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HARLOW: Three men accused in a plot to join ISIS have pleaded not guilty to terrorism charges. They appeared in a Brooklyn federal court yesterday. The FBI says two of the planned to fly from New York to Turkey last month and then cross in to Syria. The third suspect allegedly funded the operation. And authority say an online post from one of them tipped off the FBI in August. The plan allegedly included harming President Obama, even planting a bomb on Coney Island, if he wasn't able to join the terrorist group. Each of those suspects now faces up to 15 years in prison if they are convicted.

The numbers are stunning 3400 westerners from 90 countries have left their homes to fight with ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Nearly 200 of them are Americans. It's clear the recruitment efforts are working especially in Minnesota, home to the largest Somali immigrant population in the United States.

We went to Minneapolis to speak with this community who is actively trying to fight this right alongside the FBI.

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HARLOW (voice-over): Far from the deserts of Syria and Iraq, ISIS terrorists are eyeing vulnerable young men and women here.

Is ISIS targeting the Somali community in Minnesota?

ANDREW LUGER, U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL, MINNESOTA: Yes.

HARLOW: No question?

LUGER: No question.

HARLOW: How aggressively?

LUGER: Aggressively. They're recruiting westerners, but they're recruiting here.

HARLOW: Through online propaganda, their efforts are working. For the Somali community in Minneapolis, it is a chilling replay of the recent past.

In 2007, more than 20 Somali Minnesotans left here to fight with the terrorist group al-Shabaab. Now a second wave but this time it is ISIS recruiting them. Approximately 15 people have left Minnesota to fight with ISIS.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have had a number of people travel from the twin cities, we've had a number of people attempt to travel, and as we speak, there are people making preparations to travel.

HARLOW: It is still going on?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is ongoing.

HARLOW: The most vulnerable are also some of the community's youngest like (INAUDIBLE) arrested in February.

What was he like?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good kid. I mean, I never pictured him --

HARLOW: Authorities say 19-year-old (INAUDIBLE) and three companions took a bus from here in downtown Minneapolis to New York's JFK airport in November. His destination Istanbul, but he never made it. Instead he's here in jail awaiting trial charged with attempting to provide material support to ISIS.

A 19-year-old kid.

LUGER: That's who they're recruiting, 18 to 20-year-olds is the focus. That's focus of the recruiting by ISIS right now.

HARLOW: Others recruited Douglas McCain who was killed fighting with ISIS in Syria this summer. His friend, Troy Castigar (ph) was recruited by al-Shabaab.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a real Disney Land. You need to come and join us.

HARLOW: He died fighting with them in 2009. His mother spoke to CNN last year.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I had no clue that he was going into a dangerous situation in that way. I think they were manipulated and I don't think they knew what they were fully what they were part of.

HARLOW: Ask people here why this is happening this is happening, some will say a feeling of isolation, disenfranchisement, others say a lack of opportunity. Many just don't know. But all who we talk to say it must stop, among them, (INAUDIBLE), a mother of six.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every mother that, you know, is constantly thinking about, my god. This could happen to me.

HARLOW: Is this fight becoming even harder?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is a silent killer. You just don't know. You don't see it. And, boom, it happens.

HARLOW: And your child is gone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And your child is gone.

HARLOW: A silent killer that took his (INAUDIBLE) nephew. He was recruited by al-Shabaab when he was 17.

What was your nephew lit? Tell me about him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God. It's the kind of nephew anyone would wish for -- nice, no crime, a-student, high hopes of going to Harvard.

HARLOW: You think your nephew was looking for a better life?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. A lot of kids are looking for a better life. I'm sure 99 percent of -- aware of what the reality on the ground is.

HARLOW: And Luger believes the threat from ISIS is even greater than that posed by al-Shabaab.

LUGER: What is different with ISIS is they're not only targeting Somali community. So it's something now that we all have to work together and worry about.

HARLOW: The FBI calls Minnesota the most impacted by this threat.

As a special agent in charge here, what do you see that the terrorist oversees that are using this as a recruitment ground? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That we're going to use the entire weight of the

United States government prevent you from recruiting our youth to travel overseas to fight and die.

LUGER: The Imams and the religious leaders want this to stop. This is not about religion. This is about terror recruiting. We're doing everything we can to turn it around.

We have a problem. We're addressing it. That's what Minnesotans do.

HARLOW: A problem that now has the attention of and funding from the White House.

U.S. attorney Andrew Luger is spearheading the effort in Minneapolis.

If you were to boil down the solution, how you're attacking this, how would you describe it?

LUGER: The way the community described it to me. They wanted more community engagement by law enforcement, more mentoring through more job opportunities, afterschool programs, in-school programs, intervention teams that grow out of the community working together at the early signs of radicalization.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You believe in the (INAUDIBLE).

HARLOW: It's precisely what cartoonist Mohamed Akman (ph) is doing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A student is thinking, especially Islamic state, out.

HARLOW: You created a cartoon series, basically, to try to fight ISIS propaganda.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Correct. The goal is to fight ISIS and al-Shabaab and Boko Haram. They are all eat from the same of plate of ideology. And if you go up to one ideology going up to all of them, and the objective is to go ahead and they got to keep between the age of eight and 16, and get them to look at this before they get to You Tube and Facebook have seen on these videos.

HARLOW: You say it takes idea to destroy an idea.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it does. You go up there and proves and the point of inception. And we fight it the way we're fighting it. That way, we'd fry up this ripple deposits.

HARLOW: But those recruited are just the tiny fraction of the Somali community here. Something we're reminded of at every turn.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

HARLOW: Citizens who left war in their homeland now fighting a battle to save their children here.

Coming up one organization in Minnesota is testing a program to rehabilitate some of the teens including this one that are being recruited by al-Shabaab and ISIS. It is a controversial move, but can it work? The executive director joins me next.

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HARLOW: Well, as you just saw in our piece, youth across this country also in Minnesota, specifically are being targeted by ISIS. And conspiring with ISIS will land any U.S. Cititzen in jail. But some believe jail is not necessarily the solution. Especially for some of the youngest offenders like 18-year-old Abdullah Yusif (ph) who fled guilty to conspiring to provide material support to ISIS. He is awaiting sentencing in Minnesota right now.

Joining me here on set, Mary McKinley. She runs a program in Minnesota that is working to rehabilitate Yusif (ph) right now and perhaps others in the future.

Thank you for being here.

When we were reporting on the story, we heard about what you guys are doing. I have to admit it's controversial. It's not something that the U.S. attorney's office was supportive of. What is your goal?

MARY MCKINLEY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HEARTLAND DEMOCRACY: Well, our goal with MR. Yusif (ph) is to work with him very slowly and to take it bit by bit. We don't really have approval to work with him on an extended period. He's awaiting sentencing. So there's a lot of legal matters that he is working with.

HARLOW: This is not instead of jail, for example. Not yet.

MCKINLEY: That's right. Not yet. But what we're doing in the meantime is trying to continue our outreach in the community to expand our programs working with youth to work on the prevention side. Because we know that these young people, for the most part, don't want to join ISIS.

HARLOW: But a lot of them, as I heard reporting there, get roped into this feel like they sort of have a lack of attachment to anything being disenfranchised. Some will scoff at the argument and say come on, just because you feel like that you don't join a terrorism organization. What do you say to the critics who argue how it can change someone's thinking?

MCKINLEY: Well, I think that our point is that these young people don't feel connected to their communities. They are growing up in immigrant community which is largely based -- there's a high unemployment rate. There's many more people coming from Somalia all the time because the ongoing civil war there. So the services that are provided to this community for education, social services, housing are strapped. And so what we try to do is to find connections for these young people in their community to try to provide some basic education. Something they can convict to in the community and prevent that kind of attachment that might make to something that is more violent. HARLOW: And I know a lot within the Somali community are working to

fight that. Almost everyone in the community is against. It it's a tiny fraction. I want to make that very clear to our viewers. And look, you have non-Somalis getting recruited by ISIS all over this country. You know, average mid-western kids, kids on the west coast, kids in the south, in the north, in the northeast. This is happening across the boards. Is there any precedent for a program like yours out there?

MCKINLEY: Well, a lot of the groups that we're looking at are working in Europe, because they have much greater numbers of people who have actually gone over. And it's the same philosophy. So what we do is we look at what are the baseline issues in the young population and why are they feeling disconnected in their communities? Why are they feeling disconnected from their future? And how can we empower them and their parents, quite frankly. Because we are really trying to focus a lot of this attention on the struggles of their parents, just like U.S. attorney Andy Luger was saying. This is community issue.

HARLOW: So let me ask you this very quickly before I let you go. Is your goal ultimately to have this as an option instead of jail sentences for some offenders?

MCKINLEY: Well, we're not really speaking to that right now because we really do want to focus on the prevention side. It's much more cost effective and beneficial to the region economically if we focus on kids who are not even thinking about joining ISIS. But the recruitment efforts are really strong. And so, the community and the parents are really concerned about the messaging that their kids are hearing.

HARLOW: Mary McKinley, thank you for coming on the program. I appreciate it. Good to have you on.

MCKINLEY: Thanks for having me. Thank you.

HARLOW: Thank you so much.

We'll be back in a minute.

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HARLOW: It is a rare treat for royal watchers, an inside look at the life of Britain's royal family. And for the first time, Prince Charles has opened up about his love life and his marriage to Camilla showing a side of the prince that we'd really never seen. And he's only talking to us here at CNN.

Here is CNN's royal correspondent Max Foster.

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MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): People cannot believe it's been ten years, and in that time, the duchess has been finding her own public role. Has that been a challenge?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can imagine it is a real challenge. But she's, I think, been brilliant in the way she's tackled these things.

FOSTER: The duchess of Cornwall would have to overcome the perception of being the other woman. On face the public that didn't know her particularly well and had adored Dianna. But over the years, British public warmed her as she stood by Charles and championed her own interests.

CNN has been given intimate access to her appearances. We watched her host a Christmas party for very sick children, seen her visited a school to promote writing, spent a day at the races, and followed her to the base of an infantry regiments.

One of the things that struck me, something you know about her, her charm and her humor. It's a sight that doesn't always come across on television, but it's pretty powerful in real life, isn't it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. It's a peculiar thing. But also inevitably, you can be a bit more relaxed when it is slightly move (INAUDIBLE) people without being tensely surrounded all the time by the dreaded camera.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HARLOW: And the man with the best job in television joins me now, CNN royal correspondent Max Foster live in London.

Congratulations on what is an extraordinary documentary airing tonight at 7:30 eastern.

I'm interested in why Prince Charles is speaking now.

FOSTER: Well, I think it's been a difficult time for Camilla over the years. Back at the time when Dianna died, something like 90 percent of the British population in polls were against her ever becoming queen. Back at the time when Charles and Camilla married the number was around 60 to 70 percent (INAUDIBLE) to the poll showing that now it's down to 35 percent of people in Britain oppose Camilla being known as queen.

So, there's this gradual warming to her. And he does, obviously, want her to be queen when he becomes king. Technically, she'll become queen anyway. But at the moment, she won't take that title. She will use a different title. I think he wants the world t really get to know her. And over the passage of time, they are separating her from Dianna event.

HARLOW: Yes. I'm interested, Max, did he say anything about the late Princess Dianna?

FOSTER: He didn't talk about her because this was the anniversary interview about Camilla. And I mean, she's not, obviously, a part of his life anymore but very much in the boy's lives, William and Harry's lives. So he very much respects the legacy, they're barely trying to keep alive. And he doesn't want to interfere in what he sees for them is a real priority. Do he doesn't talk about her. He doesn't want to upset anyone around that at all either. So he talks about Camilla and he talks about his relationships.

HARLOW: So I know they're coming to the United States next week, I think, right? What are we expecting?

FOSTER: Well, they're going to travel to Washington. They're going to meet President Obama. I think that will be a highlight and they'll go to Louisville in Kentucky. It's has a tour that has some significance because the first U.S. tour they did together was just after the wedding as newlyweds. And at that time there was a real viciousness against Camilla at that time. There are diehard Dianna fans who are holding a placards at places that she would visit. And it is going to be interesting to see for people whether the American public warmed to her as well every time whether we will see those placards. I think, Prince Charles, he sees this as a pretty momentous visit in his marriage and doesn't often talk about it. HE won't talk about again as I understand it. But this is his point of making she means huge to him. She's not going anywhere.

HARLOW: The one, the only time you'll hear it. Max Foster special later tonight on CNN.

Max, thanks so much. We appreciate it. Again, this rare access to Charles and Camilla tonight 7:30 p.m. in a special CNN event only right here.

Coming up, it is a theme park in Orlando but it is not what you think. We're going to take you inside machine gun America. This is an attraction centered around automatic weapons.

Before that, though, we're going to talk about something completely different. Listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been a delivery driver coming up on a year now. Having a car problem just brings a lot of stress. My calipers are seized, there's a smell of gas. I'm definitely worried about my safety. Having two daughters, it just really heightened this situation.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was social worker for 15 years. I kept seeing people struggling with making ends meet. One car repair can upset the entire (INAUDIBLE) cards. I kept thinking why isn't somebody doing something about this? Then on one day it occurred to me that somebody might be me. I did not grow up working on cars. So I ended up getting a degree in auto technology.

Does it get worse when you turn on the heat?

How we're different than a regular garage is that people have to meet certain income requirements.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was quoted close to $1400.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We charge the customer $15 an hour for labor. Market rate was about $100 an hour. We don't do mark up on the parts. So we are a lot less.

So your bill could lost about $300.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. If I need to give you guys more. A car that works allows them to meet the basic needs of their lives with dignity. Thanks for your patience.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You get a hug.

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It's about moving people forward and moving their lives forward.

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HARLOW: Cathy, we salute you. Thank you so much for what you do.

If you know someone who deserves recognition like that, just go to CNNheros.com and nominate them. We'll be back in a moment.

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HARLOW: It's a new theme park just a few miles from Disneyworld. But critics argue this is no magic kingdom -- Machine gun America. That's what it's called. It bills itself as Orlando's first automatic adrenaline attraction, a place where kids as young as 13 can fire military-grade weapons.

Our Alina Machado went to see what it's all about.

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ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This brand-new 13,000 square foot facility is just a few miles from Disney world. Welcome to machine gun America where guests as young as 13 can shoot assault weapons with live ammo.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think I'm going to try the other gun. I was a little freaked out.

MACHADO: Karen (INAUDIBLE) and her husband brought their 17 and 13- year-olds to Orlando to go to Disney. Then they spotted machine gun America.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's like wow, this is crazy. We just shotguns.

MACHADO: Big guns.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, big guns. And in the room other people were shooting bigger guns. And that was nerve-racking.

MACHADO: (INAUDIBLE) husband and older son also fired several weapons. The 13-year-old only watched.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was glad I didn't let Jacob do it. He was just 13. And it its very powerful.

MACHADO: Very powerful and very popular with adults, since opening its doors in December, machine gun America says only six percent of guests have been minors.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're not openly advertising our marketing to 13- year-olds.

MACHADO: Children 13 or older can only come inside with a parent or legal guardian. But Doctor Allen Delameters (ph) says even exposing young teens to this environment is dangerous.

DR. ALLEN DELAMETERS (PH), DOCTOR: It's another family gaming activity, right? Wrong. I don't think it's just another activity. I think this is something that can seriously affect child development and not in a good way.

MACHADO: He points to the incident last year at an Arizona shooting range where a 9-year-old girl firing a Uzi accidentally shot and killed an instructor. Here at machine gun America, Wes Dawes (ph) says children under 13 aren't even allowed inside. And 13 to 16-year- olds are only allowed to shoot a submachine gun as long as it's not in fully automatic mode.

Is there ever a reason for a 13-year-old to shoot one of these weapons?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We leave that up to their parents to make that decision.

MACHADO: All right, I'm ready.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. Go ahead.

MACHADO: I wanted to see if I could feel the difference between firing a weapon in semiautomatic and automatic. I started off with a handgun, and worked my way to an MP5, a submachine gun. First in semiautomatic then in automatic, and the difference was easy to feel.

You have a little less control, I feel. My arms hurt, my heart is still racing. My palms are a little sweaty.

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HARLOW: Alina Machado with that for us. Thank you, Alina.

We'll be back in just a moment. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)