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Funeral Today for Walter Scott; Obama Shakes Hands with President Raul Castro;. Man Accused of Suicide Bomb Plot at Army Base; Hillary Clinton to Announce 2016 Candidacy; Obama Shakes Hands with Raul Castro; Police Videos and Transparency; Augusta Masters Update; New Dash Cam Video Shows How Incident Began. Aired 1-2p ET

Aired April 11, 2015 - 13:00   ET

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[13:00:28] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Hello again, everyone, and thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

We're expecting attorneys for Walter Scott's family to address the camera shortly right there in Summerville, South Carolina. Family and friends have been saying goodbye to the 50-year-old today. The unarmed black man was shot and killed last Saturday while running from a North Charleston police officer.

CNN's Polo Sandoval joining me now from Summerville, South Carolina, where the funeral service looks like it's wrapping up. We have seen some people now emerging, leaving that building. And then soon, perhaps an attorney and another South Carolina representative will be taking to the microphones.

But for now, Polo, give me an idea what this service was like for this family.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Very emotional, Fred. I can tell you that we're now going over reports from some of the speakers that really took the podium during today's service, which really reached almost two hours. Very emotional, particularly when Walter Scott's daughter read a poem to her father. And then also another moment in which Anthony Scott, Walter's brother, also took to the podium, as well, saying, quote, "God selected his brother as a candidate for change."

And then he went on to promise that that change will come. The crowd then responding with a standing ovation. That theme of change continued also with Dr. George Hamilton, which is really the person that presided over today's service. A bit more -- some of the comments were stronger, though. Went on to call the shooting last Saturday an act of over-racism. And then went as far as to call Walter's death -- at least he said that it was motivated by, quote, "racial prejudice." That he was killed as a result of racist heart, in the -- at least that the officer had.

So again, very different tones that we saw in the last hour and a half during the ceremony. But at this point, we're expecting any moment now, two key developments and that is the American flag-draped casket of Walter Scott will be carried out of the facility you see behind me as those arrangements continue. And the other key development that we're expecting here that is Bamberg and also Chris Stewart, the Scott family legal team, expected also to take the microphone. We could potentially hear what will come next for the family after today -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: And, of course, the investigation still very much under way. Still lots of unanswered questions. Just within the last, you know, 24 hours. We are now getting more views of dash cams from the former police officer, Michael Slager's vehicle, as well as the other patrol cars of the other responding officers.

Just in that community alone, what are some of the questions that people have? What are they expressing about their concerns, about their relationship with North Charleston Police, perhaps with their trust in the investigation itself?

SANDOVAL: There is a lack of trust there, among some of the members of the North Charleston community. From the very start, they have maintained that that relationship, or at least that -- there is no bridge really between some members of the community and the police department. So that's something that they're calling for, as far as change when that relationship -- or at least lack of.

And also the other question is exactly what happened during that very crucial moment. Because we now know how it all started a week ago. And, of course, we all know how it ended. But a lot of people here want to know what happened during that exchange between Officer Slager and Walter Scott, what was said, and, of course, why did the officer feel the need to respond with deadly force during that tussle or potentially after.

WHITFIELD: Right. The tussle is the word that one of the eyewitnesses told CNN a few days ago.

All right, thanks so much, Polo Sandoval. Appreciate that from Summerville. We'll check back with you.

All right. Meantime, plenty of diplomatic milestones at the Summit of the Americas in Panama. Cuba invited to the high-level talks for the first time in the summit's 20-year history. And last night, President Obama and Cuban President Raul Castro shook hands in Panama City. And today speculation that the two leaders are meeting face-to-face on the sidelines of the America's summit, and that, of course, would be a first meeting of its kind between the two countries since 1959 when then Vice President Richard Nixon met with then prime minister Fidel Castro.

Jim Acosta is in Panama City for us now.

So, Jim, it would seem that this is kind of upstaging any and everything taking place there at the summit.

[13:05:04] JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Right. That's right. This has almost become the Obama-Castro summit here in Panama City, Fredricka. It has been history in the making, and as you said, after, you know, a half century of Cold War relations between these two countries, not really any sort of relations to speak of, they have been adversaries for a long time. You do sort of feel this relationship changing.

The president saying during some remarks he just wrapped up here at the Summit of the Americas in Panama City, that he does want to usher in a new era in relations between the United States and Cuba. And he made that plain to all of these Western hemispheric leaders, including Raul Castro, who is there in the same room when the president was speaking.

Here's what he had to say.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The United States will not be imprisoned by the past. We're looking to the future. And the policies that improve the lives of the Cuban people and advance the interests of cooperation in the hemisphere. Now this shift in U.S. policy represents a turning point for our entire region.

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ACOSTA: Now what was even more remarkable was what followed, and that is because the president, we should point out, he said for a few moments that Latin America should stop blaming the United States for all of its problems. That was sort of a prebuttal to this remarkable 50-minute speech which was really sort of a border line rant on the part of Cuban President Raul Castro, who railed against the United States, railed against past presidents, gave out a litany of grievances that the Cuban people have had with the U.S. for decades.

But then during what was just an unbelievable moment during Castro's remarks, he praised President Obama as an honest man. Here's what he had to say.

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RAUL CASTRO, CUBAN PRESIDENT (Through Translator): In my opinion, President Obama is an honest man. I have read some of his biographies. I mean, the two books written about his life. I have not been able to read them in full. I will do that with more time. But I admire him and his life. And I think that his behavior has a lot to do with his humble background.

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ACOSTA: So there you go, Raul Castro saying that he's read some of President Obama's autobiographies. Something you don't hear every day from a Cuban leader. And it's just another example of the remarkable history in the making moments that we're seeing down here in Panama City.

We should point out that Castro also said during his comments that he does welcome what he expects to be the U.S. step toward taking -- Cuba and the Castros, for that matter, off the list of state sponsors of terrorism. That has been a key stumbling block in improving ties between the U.S. and Cuba.

And, Fredricka, about that meeting that's supposed to happen later on this afternoon, we do believe that that is still going to happen. This -- they're not calling it a bilateral meeting. That will be more formal that what we're going to see but really an informal polyside (ph) meeting between these two leaders, President Obama and Raul Castro, where they'll have the most substantive talks between a U.S. and Cuban later. As you said earlier, for something like 55, 56 years.

WHITFIELD: Wow. That's incredible.

ACOSTA: So it should be something to watch. We'll have a readout on that, as well. And the president has a press conference at the end of the day. We'll get his take on that conversation later on this evening.

WHITFIELD: So maybe they won't be calling this one like the beer summit, but maybe this is the Mojito moment. You can take that. I'll let you borrow that one.

ACOSTA: The Mojito --

WHITFIELD: Yes.

ACOSTA: The Mojito moment, and perhaps seconds to follow. We'll have to see if they can do that. They've certainly broken the ice for that Mojito, no question about it.

WHITFIELD: Yes. Indeed. All right. Thanks so much, Jim Acosta. Appreciate that. From Panama City.

All right. A second suspect now has been arrested in connection with a Kansas man's alleged plot to bomb a U.S. Army base. The Justice Department says Alexander Blair knew about John Booker's plan to detonate a car bomb at Fort Riley, but didn't report it. Meanwhile, Booker, also known as Mohammed Abdullah Hassan, is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction, attempting to damage property by means of an explosive, and attempting to provide material support to ISIS. The FBI says it was Booker's Facebook post that first got their attention last year.

Here now is CNN's Evan Perez.

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EVAN PEREZ, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: A 20-year-old American man was arrested as he prepared to carry out what he thought was a suicide bombing at Fort Riley Army Base in Kansas. John T. Booker enlisted last year in the Army. But the Army cancelled his enlistment before he showed up for basic training. That's after the FBI says it found Facebook postings claiming he wanted to carry out jihad attacks.

Booker also goes by the name Muhammad Abdullah Hassan. The FBI says he wanted to carry out Friday's attack for ISIS. Two undercover FBI informants helped orchestrate a sting operation, helping him buy components in what he thought were explosives.

[13:10:01] Booker was interviewed last year by the FBI about the Facebook posts. One of them read, "I will soon be leaving you forever. So goodbye. I'm going to wage jihad in hopes that I die." The FBI says he told agents he wanted to carry out an insider terrorist attack like the one on Fort Hood in 2009 that killed 13 people.

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WHITFIELD: Evan Perez, thank you so much.

All right. Still ahead, we're talking about the road to the White House, 2016. The reintroduction of Hillary Clinton. Why we could see a different side of the former senator and former secretary of state, who is expected to announce her bid for the White House tomorrow.

And we're live in Summerville, South Carolina, where 50-year-old Walter Scott was the center of this funeral service today. And now we expect representatives of the family to come out and talk at the microphones there. We'll take that live as it happens.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Tomorrow Hillary Clinton is expected it make a huge announcement via social media. Sources say the former secretary of state, senator and first lady will launch the first step in her bid for the White House in an online video.

Joining me right now, Donna Brazil, Democratic strategist and vice chair of the DNC Voter Project. Good to see you. Buck Sexton, national security editor of "The Blaze." Good to see you as well. And Brian Stelter, CNN senior media correspondent and host of "RELIABLE SOURCES."

All right. Good to see all of you.

All right. So this is kind of like another step, not necessarily the first step, but yet another step toward the White House for Hillary Clinton.

So, Donna, let me begin with you because in a piece you wrote for CNN.com in March you wrote, quoting now, "After spending much of her 2008 campaign seemingly running away from the fact that she is a woman, Hillary Clinton is showing signs that 2016 is going to be a different story. That she's found the person that she wants to present on the campaign trail, and the person is resolutely female. This time she seems to have decided to fully embrace her womanhood as an asset in her quest for the White House."

[13:15:23] So Donna, are you saying that, you know, this rollout is a new Hillary Clinton? Because I thought, you know, everyone knew she is very much woman, hear me roar, and has always been.

DONNA BRAZIL, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Absolutely. Look, if she decides to run, which we'll know in a couple -- well, maybe a day or so, there is no question that this time it's important that she embrace over half of the electorate.

You know, in the last campaign, her adviser said, look, you shouldn't run as the first female president. Rather you should run as the person who has a lot of experience, a lot of, you know, ideas. This time I think she can run with experience, ideas. But she can do it in that very strong female voice of hers. She is a very compassionate leader. She is someone who I think cares about ordinary people, will work each and every day to earn the support of those voters.

As you know, Fred, one of the things that people often forget is that she received over 18 million votes in a very heavily contested primary. That's more votes than her husband received when he ran in 1992. More votes than George W. Bush, more votes than my former boss, Al Gore. More votes than John McCain, Mitt Romney, and, of course, Barack Obama.

So let's assume that this is going to be a vigorous campaign. She is on the ground, meeting people, shaking hands, doing the things that candidates must do. This election is about the future, and I think she is the leader that will help us usher in a new era.

WHITFIELD: But what will be interesting too, Buck, is that she is rolling this out in kind of a smaller, more compartmentalized way because -- you know, she's got the name recognition. Everyone knows who Hillary Clinton is. Everyone thinks they know who she is at the root, and in fact, you're already seeing that -- her opponents are saying they're ready to roll out or intensify their rollout of the anti-Hillary Clinton campaign. But don't her opponents have to do more than that, Buck?

BUCK SEXTON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, no, I think that Hillary has learned some lessons from 2008, and one of the biggest lessons, of course, don't assume this is yours. And what we saw the last time around was that the Clinton campaign came out and I think that they just had this idea in their heads that there wouldn't be any opposition. And this time around, obviously, they're going for a sort of very quiet, almost no one is going to notice this. Well, I'm glad they're getting it done. It's anti-climactic to say the least. And it's probably important for them to get --

WHITFIELD: Is it?

SEXTON: Absolutely. Yes This is the most anti-climatic announcement of a candidate who's not an incumbent in modern political history in this country. But let me just say that she's having to get in here early I think -- or not early, but you have to get in here officially, I should say, because she's already seeing some pretty serious headwinds.

I mean, she's behind Republican candidates that aren't even necessarily the front runners of the Republican pack yet in key states. The Clinton brand has already been tarnished many times over but most recently by the e-mail scandal and we also have eight years of President Obama and low approval ratings at this point with Democratic Party contenders. So she's got some strong headwinds that she's going to need to deal

with. And then, of course, she's going to go around talking about economic populism for $100 million woman who hasn't pumped her own gas or driven her own car in about 20 years to be telling everybody how she cares so much about the middle class. That's going to be a tough sell and I think that that's clearly where she's going with Iowa.

She finished third in Iowa, which is an embarrassment for her campaign, obviously, and was the beginning of the end. But she's going to have -- it's going to be much harder I think than a lot of people realize for her to connect with those who aren't already ready for Hillary. And of course, to be fair, there are a lot of those people.

WHITFIELD: OK. So, Brian, you know, is it all that? I mean, in terms of its anti-climatic, I mean, it seems like we've been talking about it forever. And now it's officially here, you know, tomorrow. But then her rollout is the antithesis of what you might expect with Hillary because, you know, of her name recognition, her brand, et cetera. But can this be a new Hillary? I mean, can this be the prelude, I guess, to a new Hillary, that her strategy is a little different than most might expect?

BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Yes, the "New York Times" this morning called this entirely unsurprising that she's going to be coming out tomorrow with this video, probably on Twitter and other platforms like Facebook and YouTube, as well. And we should remember, she actually came out with a video last time, in 2007. It was also a YouTube video announcement. But the big difference -- the world has really changed since then.

And one of the ways the world has changed is cell phones. People aren't going to be consuming the announcement just on YouTube, on a laptop or on TV.

WHITFIELD: Yes.

STELTER: It's a personal experience to watch something on your cell phone screen.

WHITFIELD: And do you think that's in large part to try to appeal --

STELTER: And that might have an impact in some small way.

WHITFIELD: Sorry to interrupt. But is that in large part to kind of appeal to the younger, you know, voter that the --

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STELTER: And you know, partly it is.

BRAZIL: All people at this point.

STELTER: Yes, I think it's not a generation. I think everybody at this point is used to watching on their phone, reading Facebook. Even grandparents will be seeing the announcement that way. And, of course, the media will, too, on it as we should I think put it into context.

WHITFIELD: Yes. I don't know. I wonder --

SEXTON: It's a long -- she can blame it on the video, which is important, too.

WHITFIELD: OK.

[13:20:03] BRAZIL: She also used a video in 2000. So look, we can compare apples to oranges. We can compare 2016 to 2008, 2000 whatever. But the key here is this is a campaign about the future. It's about who can give us the ideas and the policy that will enable this country to grow, enable this country to succeed, to secure the country. And I think she is going to be a good candidate who can answer those questions.

Look, the Republicans are constantly looking in the rear-view mirror. Seeing if they can pick up a scandal from, you know, two weeks ago and make it relevant tomorrow.

WHITFIELD: Yes.

BRAZIL: This is not what voters are looking for. Voters want someone who can answer some of those key pressing questions in their lives. And if she can answer that, she will become the next president of the United States.

SEXTON: I would have to agree that it is about the future but also the issue of Hillary's inevitability. The fact that there's no one from the Democratic Party --

WHITFIELD: All right.

SEXTON: -- who's serious, who's not essentially a fall guy going up against her, just shows that she does think she's inevitable.

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BRAZIL: We have -- there will be --

WHITFIELD: Well.

BRAZIL: Don't worry about our party. We have a lot of opposition there. But you know what?

WHITFIELD: There will be lots of opposition.

SEXTON: We'll see. We'll see.

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SEXTON: O'Malley would love a (INAUDIBLE), I'm sure. And I would love --

WHITFIELD: Here we go. This is the prelude to what it's going to be like. All right. Welcome to the race for the White House, everybody.

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We're going to leave it there.

BRAZIL: The opposition that will strengthen --

WHITFIELD: Donna.

BRAZIL: -- the party and also the country.

WHITFIELD: Thank you, Donna, Brian Stelter, Buck Sexton. Thanks to all of you appreciate it. Yes, it's going to be an exhausting race. So I hope everyone has got their seatbelts on. Thanks so much, guys.

All right. Pressure at the Masters. No one told Jordan Spieth, the 21-year-old from Texas. Well, he has a five-shot lead now going into today's third round at Augusta national. We'll go there, live.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Mortgage rates is up this week. Have a look.

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[13:25:19] WHITFIELD: All right. Caught on tape. A deadly brawl between members of a Christian family band and a group of police officers outside of an Arizona Wal-Mart. The violence erupted with pepper spray, tasers and ultimately gunfire. A police officer was shot and one man is dead.

Reporter Pete Suratos of CNN affiliate KNXV has details.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need to separate these folks and talk to them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, you're not going to -- you're not going to separate me.

PETE SURATOS, REPORTER, KNXV: It's our first look at the intense brawl between Cottonwood Police and a family of eight, that family attacking officers in this Wal-Mart parking lot back in March after they were accused of assaulting a Wal-Mart employee just moments before.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're hitting the children.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.

SURATOS: Officers tried to subdue the family, repeatedly tasing them, spraying pepper spray, and even tackling them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.

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SURATOS: They had help from a Wal-Mart worker and two others, but they had little luck, the family finding different ways to continually attack these officers, rolling on the ground when tased and wiping away that pepper spray.

CHIEF JODY FANNING, COTTONWOOD, ARIZONA, POLICE: Personally I have never seen that tactic applied, so I'm not certain where they learned it. Obviously somebody has taught them that.

SURATOS: Time and time again the family put their hands up pretending to surrender, but they never do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get on the ground.

SURATOS: And then during this fight, shots are fired. The first shot, according to police, is one of the suspects shooting the officer in the leg. Another shot is an officer shooting the suspect who is now deceased.

And on the topic of civilians, how close is too close? This is a Wal- Mart employee, Eric Fields, helping police fighting off the family. I asked if this is something regular folks should steer clear from instead of jumping in.

FANNING: We are very familiar with -- with Mr. Fields from Wal-Mart because of our interactions with him at the loss prevention at Wal- Mart. So the officers are very familiar with him. The other two gentlemen that approached, they were very nonthreatening.

SURATOS: Six of the family members were arrested, two of them juveniles, facing a variety of charges including assault of an officer and resisting arrest. That injured officer has been released from the hospital and is recovering from his injuries. This case is still under investigation with DPS.

In Cottonwood, Pete Suratos, ABC 15 News.

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WHITFIELD: All right. We'll keep you posted on that investigation.

All right. Joining me right now, legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, Joey Jackson.

All right. We just saw police video of that brawl and earlier this week, we're talking about the South Carolina, North Charleston Police releasing dash cam video just moments before Walter Scott was killed. So is -- are we seeing a concerted effort, perhaps, by police departments to say we want to be more transparent? We want to show what's happening as it's happening by way of our dash cams?

JOEY JACKSON, HLN LEGAL ANALYST: Fredricka, good afternoon. I absolutely think we are. And I think it's a great thing to have happened. Why? We're in an age of technology. And in that technology, yes, we have dash cams. There are also body cameras, of course, that the police force is using. And I think they're moving to that more readily. And I think it's a good thing to do that. Why? A couple of different reasons.

Number one, in the event a police officer knows that there is a body cam or a dash cam, I think certainly they'll be on their best behavior, not to suggest they wouldn't ordinarily. We expect and anticipate police should behave professionally. But also if the public knows and the public would be on their best behavior. I think there's an argument also to be made that it would be protective of the police force.

Why? Because then in that situation you know that there wouldn't be any false lawsuits or the like. It's also interesting to draw the parallels between this particular case that we just saw the video of at the Wal-Mart, and the other case where you looked at the officer in South Carolina and what he did. In this particular case in Arizona at that Wal-Mart, the police use all means necessary.

They started with verbal commands and then they escalated to the taser. They used pepper spray, they used batons. They did everything they could to preserve life. Not until the gun -- there was a struggle, and then, of course, the sergeant was shot in the leg, and that particular point, then, of course, the officers had to do what they did. There was an immanency of the fear for their life or serious bodily injury. They also used force that were proportionate to the threats that were being posed on them.

And finally, their actions appeared to be consistent and reasonable. You contrast that with South Carolina, Fredricka, and it painted a very troubling and different picture.

WHITFIELD: So I guess what's interesting, too, though, Joey, is there had been a premise that having dash cam video is going to help, particularly when it comes down to prosecutions. This is videotape that would be revealed in the court of law. But now we're seeing before there are any charges filed, before anybody has their first court appearance, now it's the police department making this kind of video available.

[13:30:09] Is that in step with what you think should happen in terms of when the transparency begins? Or might that be potentially a problem that the market is flooded, or, you know, Web sites are flooded or news organizations are flooded with this kind of information to help paint a picture or taint the audience's point of view before you get into a courtroom?

JACKSON: You know, I think it's a great question. And here's my view on that. I think more information, more readily available, the better. Because you're dealing with a major question. That question deals with the public trust of the police. There needs to be, of course, a mutual respect. The public needs to respect the police. The police need to respect the public. And a gap of trust needs to be closed.

When you have this type of transparency where everyone knows right away what happened, I think it has an effect on the community in a positive way. We know what occurred, and therefore, even if you look at the parallels between South Carolina and you look at what happened in Missouri, with the whole Michael Brown incident, in terms of how it was handled, the police right away, South Carolina, once the tape was out there, what they did, their actions, the information unfolds, it's out there, they take corrective action.

There's an executive order to install body cams on police officers. The whole tenor, the whole approach was different.

WHITFIELD: OK.

JACKSON: And then you look at this particular situation, where, you know -- where -- I'm sorry, when the Michael brown situation, it was just a lot different. And so ultimately, Fredricka, when you go into a court of law, the videotape is not going to change. So the prosecution is likely not going to change.

WHITFIELD: OK. Yes.

JACKSON: And so I think the more the merrier at the outset, certainly doesn't impair or affect an individual's rights in court. There should be more of it.

WHITFIELD: All very much thought-provoking. All right. Thanks so much, Joey Jackson, appreciate it.

JACKSON: Thank you, Fredricka. Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Still ahead, we are live in Summerville, South Carolina, where we are awaiting a news conference from the family's attorneys representing Walter Scott. Right now someone is speaking. I can't hear who that is. But -- are we going to take that right now? All right. We'll be right back.

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[13:36:11] WHITFIELD: All right. Now to the Masters today. It's the third round at golf's most prestigious event. This is the Majors that Tiger Woods has won four times and now he is one of the guys chasing leader Jordan Spieth.

CNN Sports anchor Rachel Nichols is in Augusta.

So, Rachel, Tiger is doing pretty good. At the same time, you're going to have to teach me how to say Jordan's name. Is it Spieth or Spieth?

RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Spieth.

WHITFIELD: OK. Got it. And we just get you through the name. Yes.

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NICHOLS: Absolutely. And we just saw Tiger tee off on one. Came within inches, birdying the hole, ended up having to settle for a par, but hey, that is an improvement when you think about back on day one he got a bogey there after three-putting. So he is just playing with more and more confidence every day.

I spoke to Arnold Palmer about Tiger earlier this week and he said frankly that's what Tiger needs to get back into his game, confidence, more than any particular stroke or drive or putting technique. And we are seeing that with him. Is it going to catch Jordan Spieth? He's starting the day 12 back from the leader. That's going to be hard to make up over the next two days. But if he can sneak in there for a top-five finish that will be a big deal for him this week and after missing the last nine weeks of golf.

So that's what he's aiming for, of course. He'd still would love to win it, you know, he's Tiger, but he's looking to do better and better every day.

WHITFIELD: My goodness. So Jordan Spieth, while he may unfamiliar to many of us, he actually has made his rounds at the Masters before, at the tender age of 20. But what's different for him this time?

NICHOLS: Yes. Yes, I don't know what you were doing when you were 20. I personally, Fred, when I was 20, was not almost winning the Masters. He almost won the Masters last year, with 11 holes to go. He was -- had a two-stroke lead, he looked like he was in good position, but had a few struggles on the back nine. We saw Bubba Watson take charge and then take his second green jacket. But Jordan said he learned from that experience, he learned how to deal with the mental pressure of that situation, the entire world staring at you, your name on pretty much -- leader boards that are on pretty much every hole here at Augusta.

And he feels like he's in a better position this year, and that's good, because he is once again leading, he has commanding lead. Those leader boards are still going to be taunting him from everywhere. But he says he's got blinders on now, he knows how to ignore them. He's just playing his game and he certainly looks like it. Two days he has looked relaxed, calm, and ready to go.

WHITFIELD: Good for him. All right. We will all be watching. Of course, we'll be watching you, too, about an hour from now with your special "ALL ACCESS."

Rachel Nichols, thank you so much.

"ALL ACCESS" at Augusta, CNN Bleacher Report special, 2:30 Eastern Time.

We'll be right back.

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[13:42:20] WHITFIELD: All right. We're expecting attorneys from Walter Scott's family to address the camera shortly. Family and friends have been saying goodbye to the 50 year-old today. The funeral taking place in Summerville, South Carolina. Scott, an unarmed black man, was shot and killed last Saturday while running from a North Charleston police officer.

And as Brian Todd reports, there is now video that shows more of what happened that day.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): CNN has obtained stunning new dash cam video from other officers arriving on the scene moments after Walter Scott is shot. You can see Officer James Gann speeding from a nearby traffic call when he hears shots are fired. Here, it appears you can see Feidin Santana at a nearby fence shooting his cell phone video, the key evidence in the murder case against Officer Michael Slager.

The man at the epicenter of this case is now in isolation. Former North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager is being held alone in a jail cell, the Charleston County sheriff tells CNN. And he is being monitored for his mental health.

CNN is told investigators from the State Law Enforcement Division are combing through every frame of the video of the shooting.

MICHAEL SLAGER, FORMER NORTH CHARLESTON POLICE OFFICER: Taser, taser, taser.

TODD: As well as of Officer Michael Slager's dash cam video. A former prosecutor says the video still leaves gaps.

MILLER W. SHEALY, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: We don't know whether they were fighting over his gun, his taser, or just fighting and the officer was trying to subdue him.

TODD: There are also new revelations from state investigators who say initial clues in the vacant lot where Walter Scott was killed just didn't add up. A spokesman for the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division says there were inconsistencies and questions about what appeared to be multiple gunshot wounds in Mr. Scott's back. They say, quote, "something was not right about what happened in that encounter."

The new details come as African-American leaders in North Charleston are growing more vocal in their criticism of the police.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Enough is enough.

TODD: They say police disproportionately target black motorists for traffic stops. One leader telling CNN police officers look for broken taillights. The dash cam video from Scott's traffic stop shows the center light on his back windshield was out, but that his lower brake lights worked. That kind of stop, critics say, is a daily occurrence.

ELDER JAMES JOHNSON, NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK: There's a major street here called Dorchester Road. Any time you ride down the street in any given day, you see four to five policemen has pulled someone over that's black. You know. Any given day. And people see that and it brings anger.

TODD (on camera): We reached out to the North Charleston Police Department for response to those complaints. We didn't hear back. Brian Todd, CNN, North Charleston, South Carolina.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Let's bring in our panel now as we await a news conference to take place outside of the church where Walter Scott's -- where Walter Scott's funeral took place. And so I may have to interrupt our conversation if it does happen.

[13:45:08] So I'm joined now by former police academy director and a former police chief in North Carolina, Richard Weinblatt. Plus criminal defense attorney and CNN legal analyst, Danny Cevallos in New York.

Good to see both of you, gentlemen.

RICHARD WEINBLATT, FORMER POLICE CHIEF: Good to see you.

WHITFIELD: So, Richard, you first. What does the dash cam video tell you about Officer Slager's mindset right before the shooting? Meaning after the routine stop, you hear the dialogue of him asking for I.D., about the vehicle, et cetera. Is there anything that seems customary to you or out of the ordinary?

WEINBLATT: Well, initially, it seems very customary. It's very professional. It's very polite. It's following normal protocols. And the problem is, of course, when the situation ends up getting escalated and we don't know exactly where that struggle transpired there. We see that Mr. Scott ran from the vehicle, which obviously was not a good move. But that in no way entitles former Officer Slager to do what he did.

And I can tell you every officer I've talked to universally condemns the outcome of what happened.

WHITFIELD: And then, Danny, the former officer, Michael Slager, is now in jail. And he is facing murder charges. He's had two attorneys, or at least one attorney prior to now his attorney, Andy Savage, has released the first statement. He did that just yesterday, saying that, "Previous counsel was provided to Mr. Slager by the Southern State's Police Benevolent Association pursuant to Mr. Slager's membership. We have confirmed that no investigation was undertaken by Mr. Slager's previous counsel, or the PBA. Unfortunately, despite having made requests, he, Andy Savage, has not received the cooperation from law enforcement that the media has."

So what does this kind of statement say to you in terms of the fight ahead, or how Andy Savage will be defending Michael Slager?

DANNY CEVALLOS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, we defense attorneys are constantly complaining about how we don't get information in a timely manner from either law enforcement or prosecutors. It's just the way of the world. We'll probably continue to do it for the next millennia. So in this case, what we're seeing happen is that the -- at least the initial counsel didn't meet up to whatever standards that the second counsel, once he got on the case -- apparently there were statements made.

I think going forward, the defense has to build a case that focuses entirely on the moment when the officer will allege that Mr. Scott reached for his taser, or firearm or something else. He's going to have to make that case. Because otherwise this is a mere arrest for either a traffic stop or a bench warrant on unpaid child support. And I think people need to realize, it's something people are not talking about.

A bench warrant for child support is not a crime. It's essentially police acting as bill collectors. And that's it. And I think that's an issue that's going to come to light in this case.

WHITFIELD: So that's a problem at the root. It's not a violent crime. It's not a violent offense.

CEVALLOS: It's not a crime.

WHITFIELD: It's not a crime. And he wasn't being stopped for that, but the discovery may have been that upon being stopped for this, you know, light that may have been out, the discovery may have been made, a bench warrant out for his arrest, because he hasn't paid child support. And there is at least one family member who came on CNN to say he had already served time, Mr. Scott had, for back child support and that he may have run simply because he was afraid of the notion of going to jail over that same kind of thing.

WEINBLATT: But, Fredricka --

CEVALLOS: But he's not serving time.

WEINBLATT: Right.

CEVALLOS: That's the thing. He's not serving time on the unpaid child support. That's called a purge. They essentially put you in jail until you can make your payments. It's not a sentence. And it's not punishment. That's the thing that nobody is talking about.

WEINBLATT: Well, and no matter what he did or alleged to have done, it does not justify pumping bullets into his back when he does not, according to "Tennessee versus Garner," pose a threat to the officer. That's the key aspect. Did he pose a threat to the officer at the time?

WHITFIELD: Right.

WEINBLATT: And he didn't.

CEVALLOS: And "Tennessee v Garner" deals with --

WEINBLATT: He did not.

CEVALLOS: This being a felon. There is no felony anywhere in sight in this case. It's all unpaid child support.

WEINBLATT: Right. WHITFIELD: Well, but, wait, it looks like we have two separate

issues. And it also --

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WEINBLATT: Never poses a threat. And he didn't.

WHITFIELD: Kind o f systemic problem that there is about what offenses gets people caught up in trouble. And that's one thing. And then now we've got the other, which is trying to figure out what was that moment that none of these dash cam or none of these -- none of the videotape that we as a public have been able to see. What elicited a response from this ex officer to then pull out his pistol and shoot this man who was running. That is the part we still do not know, Richard.

[13:50:02] WEINBLATT: Right. But that's the problem, Fredricka. And Danny is right about the fleeing felon part, to a degree. What it really dealt with was whether a person posed a threat to the officer or someone else. And he did not.

CEVALLOS: Absolutely.

WEINBLATT: He was running at a slow jog. The officer took eight shots, even took a step, OK, that is not heat of the moment. That is not passion. OK. And every officer I've talked to is a professional, they are ethical, and they do not stand behind what this man did. They do millions and millions of stops all year round with no problem whatsoever. This is an aberration. This is not the way we police in America.

OK, contrary to what some folks are thinking, they want to paint a broad brush. Not all African-American males are problems, quote- unquote, and not all police officers are racist or bad. This particular one, on its face, on that video, it appears he did not have a threat per "Graham vs. Connor" or "Tennessee versus Garner." He didn't have a threat.

WHITFIELD: Right.

WEINBLATT: And he was not --

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WHITFIELD: So I think I hear you. You know, This certainly is impetus for further discussions and action on some sort of reform.

WEINBLATT: Absolutely.

WHITFIELD: And then I do hear you, Danny, when you talk about reform of criminalizing things, offenses, grievances that really should not be staring at jail time or being held in jail as a result of not being able to pay bills and, as you say, police officers becoming like bill collectors.

WEINBLATT: And I agree -- WHITFIELD: Yes. Very strong points, and which certainly means we're

going to have more conversations on this and hopefully we can talk about some resolutions, too.

All right, for now, Richard, Danny, thank you so much for this dialogue. Appreciate it.

And we'll be right back.

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[13:55:24] WHITFIELD: All right, checking our top stories. Two Alabama college students charged with raping a woman while on spring break. Police in Panama City found video of the alleged rape while investigating an unrelated shooting. They continue to search for others who may have been involved.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These people come into Panama City beach think that this is acceptable. This is not acceptable.

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WHITFIELD: The suspects are Troy University students, both have been suspended.

And families are beginning to return home after a train derails in South Carolina that happened Friday night near Trenton. According to reports 39 cars derailed, one of them spilling ammonia nitrate. Thankfully, no injuries have been reported. The cause of the derailment is still under investigation.

And not another "Ocean's 11," but the real deal? A new video captures the play-by-play as thieves pull off a heist in London's jewelry district last weekend. Authorities are yet to put a price tag on the stolen loot, but speculations place it around $300 million. The kicker? Police are now saying that they heard the burglar alarm going off, but they did not respond.

We got much more straight ahead in news, but first here, CNN's "VITAL SIGNS" with Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Thanks for being with me today.

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