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New Tornado Watches in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas; Police Attorneys Want Prosecutor Off Case; ISIS Claims Iraq Prison Assault; U.S. Military Bases Raise Security Level; Nine Savannah Deputies Fired Over College Student's Death; Mark O'Mara Represents Family of Savannah Student; Cyber War against Women with Revenge Porn. Aired 5- 6p ET

Aired May 09, 2015 - 17:00   ET

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[17:00:28] POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Five o'clock Eastern, I'm Poppy Harlow. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. Breaking news this hour, the Dallas-Fort Worth area now under an increased risk for a tornado. New tornado watches have been issued for parts of Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas. This is in addition to earlier tornado watches in Colorado, Kansas and Nebraska. Many towns already reeling from destructive storms just two days ago. Now they are bracing for what could come tonight with the new tornado watches nearly 20 million people are at risk from the violent weather. Tornadoes are likely in the watch areas. But they have not yet been spotted. Another weather system to tell you about. Beach goers along the Carolina Coast need to be wary of the first named tropical storm of the hurricane season. Tropical storm Ana will bring up to five inches of rain when it washes ashore tomorrow morning.

CNN meteorologist Jennifer Gray is storm chasing in Oklahoma. Brian Young is in Oklahoma City. And Pedram Javaheri is in the CNN severe weather center. Guys, thank you very much for being with us. Let's go straight to you Jennifer. What are you seeing on the ground there?

All right. I think we lost her shot which is understandable in the weather. We're going to try to get that back up for you.

In the meantime, let's go straight to Ryan Young, he joins me now on the ground in Oklahoma City. And Ryan, I mean, look at what's around you. This is from what happened two days ago.

RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Poppy, you know these people are just bracing for the next part of the storm. What we have been showing you is images of damage. I can tell you, all around us people have been trying to get the power back on. So, you know how critical that is. Just look at this, you can see what sort of left behind here. The woman who owned all this stuff right here had recently lost her husband and was trying to salvage anything she could before the storm hit. We're seeing people are showing up with trailers like this one. Just trying to pick up what they can from this storage facility. But I think the story that really got to us was the fact that there's a motel that's just across the way here. And I'm going to tell it just a little bit. When you see this motel and see the fact that the roof blew off the top of this, we're told by a family here they had seconds to know that the storm was coming. They all ran into the bathroom. They took a mattress, put on top of the kids and then all of a sudden tried to ride out the storm. They believed three storms hit all at once. They were able to survive and today they were able to make it back and try to get some of their stuff that they had left behind here. As you look back this direction, you can see all the damage that has been left behind. This storm seemed like it picked its spots and tore things up. And you have noticed that before in tornado coverages as well, Poppy. So, we look at this and we talk to people, they said the number one thing for them today was they were hoping that not as much rain as before and they were hoping that the wind wouldn't be as strong. So far, so good. We are getting the rain, we do see lightning, but not the hail and heavy rain that we've had over the last few days.

HARLOW: All right. That's good news, but stay safe, you and your team there, with that lightning around in the live truck, it can't get dangerous. Thanks very much, Ryan, I appreciate it.

Let's go to Jennifer Gray. We do not have her shot back up, but she's in a storm chasing vehicle so we have her on the phone with us. What are you seeing, Jennifer?

JENNIFER GRAY, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Hey, Bobby. We left Norman, Oklahoma, about two hours ago. We're traveling south on I-44. Now, we're heading into North Texas because that is one area that we're really focused on. The storm prediction center has increased the threat level there. And so, we do think some pretty nasty storms are going to start firing up in the next couple of hours. We're actually following a storm chase team from the University of Oklahoma and Howard Burstein (ph) is our fearless leader here. And they basically have a radar, a Doppler on wheels, that they are going to place ahead of the storm and try to put it inside the storm. They are actually out here doing research and what it does is help our forecasting capability and we learn a lot from these storms. And we're following them out here to the area. We're going to see what we can see. And we have about four or five-car caravan here that we're going to head into the storms in the next couple of hours.

HARLOW: All right. Jennifer, stay safe, thank you for that. As we look at this live shot from your vehicle as you're driving into North Texas where it is expected to get pretty rough. Jennifer, thank you very much. Pedram, let's go to you in the severe weather center. I know that now they have extended this tornado watch until 10:00 p.m. Central Time. But I want to be really clear. This is a watch, this isn't a warning.

PEDRAM JAVAHERI, AMS METEOROLOGIST: That's right. These conditions are favorable, as for storms to spot a tornado. But when you transition into a warning, which we think certainly could be a possibility in the coming couple of hours, that's when the conditions are eminent or occurring. So, we're watching this for 16 million Poppy in the area right there highlighted in red is actually a moderate risk for severe weather. Just issued in the past 30 or so minutes. That means on a scale of one to five, that is a four as far as the potential for severe weather right there around Dallas in the coming couple of hours.

At this hour, conditions are on the quiet side around Dallas. But of course, you know, historically speaking, the month of May over 270 tornadoes come down. We have seen 70 just in the past three days. We saw in Ryan's live shot out there in the field that the tremendous damage that's in place from the rainfall and of course the storms recently around Oklahoma City. So, that's the issue right there when it comes to what you'd expect in the month of May. And we do have a couple of new warnings as far as severe thunderstorm warnings just around Cisco and also west of Graham, Texas. One of these storms around Cisco, Texas, their cloud tops Poppy are up to 60,000 feet high.

[17:05:50] So, it shows you what a large-scale feature we're talking about. And that's the concern as these progress onto the next three to four hours. You approached that and bring that towards areas around Dallas, that becomes a major issue. And in fact, the models between 8:00 and 9:00 p.m. tonight begin to show some of these thunderstorms. And Poppy what the issue with this morning was we had large complexes of storms all at the same time producing the tremendous rainfall. But to spawn tornadoes, you typically want the storms to become isolated from one another so they have their own energy to work with as supposed to putting them all together. And that's what it looks like could happen later on tonight.

HARLOW: And what about the tropical storm building in the city off the Carolinas? How bad is that expected to get?

JAVAHERI: Yes. You know, it's going to make landfall over the next 12 or so hours, 12 to 24 hours. And when it does, in the early morning hours there off the coast of the Carolinas, about 60 mile per hour winds. So, just shy of hurricane strength. If it gets to hurricane strength, it will only be the fifth time in about 150 years we have seen a hurricane impact this portion in the month of May across the United States. But there it is on satellite imagery gusting near hurricane force. So, any sort of beach goers plans for Myrtle Beach to Wilmington, a lot of rainfall certainly, a lot of storm surge as well and the rip currents of course are a big threat on Mother's Day there as well.

HARLOW: Absolutely. All right. Pedram, thank you so much for tracking the severe weather for us across the country. We'll keep you posted on that.

Also, we're going to talk next about the Department of Justice investigation into the Baltimore Police Department. Is it justified? One of my guests says yes, the other says absolutely not. The sheriff of Milwaukee will join me along with Marc Lamont Hill, next.

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[17:10:42] HARLOW: Well, attorneys for the six Baltimore police officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray want the case dismissed. They are also calling for the state's attorney there Marilyn Mosby to recuse herself, to be taken off the case. This as the Department of Justice launches an investigation into the Baltimore Police Department.

Joining me to discuss, Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke and CNN political commentator, Morehouse Professor Marc Lamont Hill. Gentleman, thank you for being here, I appreciate it. Marc, let me begin with you. Do you think that this investigation into the Baltimore PD is justified? Should the Department of Justice be doing this?

MARC LAMONT HILL, PROFESSOR, MOREHOUSE COLLEGE: Oh, absolutely. And I would say that prior to the Freddie Gray death, there's ample evidence that there has been a practices problem, there has been a structural problem, there has been numerous complaints by citizens, there have been payouts made to people for excessive force, et cetera. I think many towns, I think it would be great if major cities all around the country did this. The DOJ doesn't have the resources to do every city but when we see evidence like this, I think it's a great thing. We have nothing to lose here.

HARLOW: Sheriff, I know you disagree. You told me last hour, you think this is all politically motivated and it shouldn't happen, but does Marc have a point that what's the harm in taking a look and evaluating police forces in major cities.

SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY, WISCONSIN: Well, first of all, it's an interesting point of view. I think we're working on the wrong thing. Just two months ago President Barack Obama held up the Baltimore Police Department under Commissioner Batts along with Mayor Rawlings-Blake and said the Baltimore Police Department was the model that should be adopted by agencies all across America for unbiased policing. So they went from two months ago being a model police agency to now all of a sudden being in an organization that has nothing but a bunch of rabbit racist ogres. And the two things are mutually exclusive, you can't go from one and I'm not going to let people get away with this. Two months ago, Baltimore P.D. was the model. The mayor sat on that 21st Century task force that was put together by President Obama and she was taking bows for her Police Department but now for political expediency she throws them under the bus for deflection.

HARLOW: Marc? They have a point?

HILL: I mean, they might be mutually exclusive, but why are we presuming that the case made two months ago was the correct one and that this one is incorrect, when there's evidence to suggest that this moment is correct? And if we don't, I can't decide who is right whether the President two months ago was right or whether the mayor is right now. Why not have a DOJ investigation? There's still not an argument for why a DOJ investigation shouldn't be made. The only argument you have made is that the President may be wrong about policing in Baltimore two months ago.

HARLOW: So, let me throw this out there. We know the Commissioner Batts has said there's work to be done in my police department and I'm doing it and I'm leading it. HILL: Yes.

HARLOW: We also know that the city of Baltimore Sherriff has paid out $5.7 million in settlements for events since 2011. One hundred and two civil suits alleging police misconduct. Does that show that there is something and it needs to at least be looked at?

CLARKE: Not at all. With this society we live in, with these -- that are bought against them municipalities, they always know that it's cheaper to just pay these things out and to litigate them. And I think it does a disservice to the people who are being accuse of this stuff, but that's what this is about. It's easier and cheaper to just pay for a settlement than it is to take at its full course through the courts. So, I think that that means nothing.

HARLOW: One of the things Marc that we're hearing -- go ahead.

HILL: I mean, it's possible that not every case is real. And sometimes people do fight cases through civil means rather than criminal means or through other means. Because I don't dispute that. But the fact of the matter is there are hundreds of complaints here, millions have been given out and again no argument has been made as of yet as to why it hurts anybody to do a DOJ investigation. If the Baltimore Police Department is doing the right thing, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. It will come up clean. I don't understand why, if we trust Barack Obama's word so much that we're casting aside, all the evidence to say, well, it can't be bad because Obama said it wasn't bad two months ago, but let's trust the DOJ under his presidency to do a good job investigating.

[17:15:05] HARLOW: I want you guys to take a listen to this. Because as you know, the Police Union and the attorneys for these six officers have called for the state's Attorney Marilyn Mosby to recuse herself, to be taken off of this case. There should be a special prosecutor. Our Sara Sidner in Baltimore spoke to her, spoke to Mosby about any potential conflict of interest in this case, listen.

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SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Can you do this without a conflict of interest?

MARILYN MOSBY, BALTIMORE CITY STATE'S ATTORNEY: There's no conflict of interest. I mean, I'm going to prosecute -- I'm the Baltimore states attorney. My jurisdiction covers every district in Baltimore City. I have -- there's a number of crimes that take place in Baltimore City and unfortunately in the district that we live. Where is the conflict? Would I have to take myself away from every case or crime that takes place in West Baltimore? And that makes absolutely no sense.

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HARLOW: Sheriff, do you think that she should be the prosecutor on this case? CLARKE: Well, that's for her to decide. I'm not going to get

involved in the conflict of interest. Of course, there's a conflict of interest here, but I don't think that's at the heart of a matter for me as an experienced homicide investigator.

HILL: What's the conflict?

CLARKE: Excuse me, the problem I have is the speed at which she brought these charges forth. She received the Baltimore police investigation on a Friday and within 24 hours she comes out with these charges. That is an incredible amount of speed having done this myself in terms of investigating and taking part of a charging conference, I have never gotten a homicide charge issued in under two or three days because you have to be very deliberate. There's volumes of reports that have to be read word for word. You want to find out the weaknesses of your case, you want to go through all of the evidence. Forensically task, you take your time. Because mistakes can be made when you rush, and we're seeing already by some legal scholars who have pointed out many of the mistakes that are present in this case and I think it's going to be problematic for her to find proof beyond a reasonable doubt because she rushed this thing.

HARLOW: And we'll see what happens. There's that 30-daytime limit when she has to have the grand jury or she has a judge find probable cause. Marc, I want you guys to address this. There was an interesting piece in the Baltimore Sun today talking about how some officers in Baltimore are scared of doing their job, scared to police because of potential blowback. Marc, does that concern you?

HILL: I mean, I kind of want to be snarky and say if these are going to go out in the streets every day and walk, that's what citizens feel in Baltimore for 50 years. But it's the question more appropriately, I think that if you do your job, you have a really good chance of having nothing to worry about. It's not as if the law has a propensity for going against cops if anything. Cops typically get the benefit of the doubt. What police officers are seeing over the last 10 to 20 days, and maybe the last six months and nine months around the country is that people are beginning to have some doubts. People aren't always giving police the benefit of the doubt. Our police deserve transparency, they deserve due process, they deserve the rule of law, they deserve all the same protections that citizens get. I don't think that we should take that away from them because they have a tough job or because of these controversies. But the end of the day, police have to be held accountable just like everybody else. Do your job and hey, get a body camera and you'll have absolutely nothing to worry about.

HARLOW: Sherriff, to you, I mean, your officers, what are you seeing on the ground in Milwaukee?

CLARKE: Well, that's the tipping point. You know? And it's called deep policing where officers won't be as assertive as they should. Look, if Baltimore citizens and residents are afraid to go out in the street and their community, it isn't because of the police. It's because of black criminals. Look at the black on black crime rate in Baltimore. Ninety percent of the homicides, of the victims are black. Ninety percent of the perpetrators are black as well. They have the fifth highest murder rate in the nation and the 7th highest violent crime rate. That's why the people of Baltimore afraid to go out into the streets.

HILL: That's not true though. I mean, I speak to people in Baltimore. And the same thing happens in my town of Philadelphia and New York. Again, they are not competing claims here. You can be scared of gang violence and black and black violence, and he scared of the police. They can both be true at once. And the truth here is that people are saying that they are not only afraid of violence in the street, they are also afraid of law enforcement. They also don't feel protected by law enforcement. They also don't feel like they have the protection of law to call law enforcement when bad things happen. And if you're seeing that none of that is true, something about pointing to a black on black crime rate, I think you're missing the point. I mean, again they're not competing claims. Why can't they both be true? That's an actual question.

CLARKE: I'm not saying they are not both true, I'm saying look at the rates. All right? The police committing violence against citizens in the same rate that black criminals are attacking, raping, robbing and pillaging of the black citizens in the city of Baltimore. So, yes, they can both be true, but the rates at which those things are occurring, they are not even close.

HARLOW: Guys, thanks for joining me. We're out of time. I got to leave it there. Thank you very much. Marc, Sheriff Clarke --

CLARKE: Thank you, Poppy. Good to talk to you, Marc.

HILL: You too.

[17:20:02] HARLOW: Coming up next in the NEWSROOM, ISIS claiming responsibility for a prison break in Iraq. One that may have freed dozens of hardened militants, some of them facing terror charges. Why is ISIS repeatedly able to do this? That's next.

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[17:23:57] HARLOW: A violent and deadly day today in Iraq. That's the sound of a car bomb exploding in Baghdad killing four people, wounding more than 25 others and it happened right near a crowd of Iraqi Shiites preparing for a traditional pilgrimage. Just a short time ago ISIS claimed on its social media that it is responsible for that car bomb. Also in Iraq dozens of inmates some of them suspected terrorists now free. This is after ISIS militants stormed a prison, killed five of the guards and set 40 of those prisoners loose. ISIS posting online, they are the ones who carried this it out. And they have done it many times in the past.

Back here in the United States, every U.S. military installation is operating at an elevated security level this weekend. This happened yesterday. The Pentagon ordered the force protection condition, that's what's it's called, boosted from Alpha to Bravo. Which means the threat of terrorism is, quote, "increased and predictable." Military officials confirm that the security level change is linked to last weekend's shooting at that in Texas, as you know, that foiled terror attack.

Jonathan Gilliam is with me now. He's a former U.S. NAVY Seal and former FBI agent. Thank you for being here. Let's talk first about racing this to force protection Bravo, right? This is on a scale of one to five, this is at a level three. And this is the highest alert that these bases have been on since the ten-year anniversary of 9/11. Some critics have said why make this public because that just tells the terrorists to go elsewhere.

JONATHAN GILLIAM, FORMER NAVY SEAL: I'm definitely one of those critics.

HARLOW: You are.

GILLIAM: I think, you know, this particular one where it says it's predictable, that means that they would have some type of known intelligence saying that an attack is possibly eminent or that there's people looking to attack a base.

HARLOW: Right.

GILLIAM: You know, that is the case all the time. And this is a big problem I have with known threats versus unknown threats. And I had this problem when I was in the bureau as well. We look at known threats and we take it very, very seriously. But on a daily basis we'll stand down in our awareness thinking whether there's not a known threat, we can, you know, ramp their force protection down. But that should always be at least to that level of Bravo where it's at right now and the surrounding communities they really are the ones I think in my mind that are the biggest targets here.

HARLOW: When it comes to this attempted terror attack on, you know, on this exhibit where there were people were competing in a competition to draw the Prophet Mohammad, what we saw was that the FBI had actually alerted local authorities there in Texas to look out for these guys.

GILLIAM: Right.

HARLOW: But what they didn't have any idea was that they'd actually left Phoenix and were on their way to try to carry this out.

GILLIAM: Right.

HARLOW: Tom Fuentes, former FBI as well has said it takes 30 agents to monitor just one person. You were in the FBI, what kind of manpower did they have on things like this?

GILLIAM: Well, when somebody is known that they are, you know, talking to the enemy or when they are even interested, it spins stuff up to a point to where we're talking about surveillance, it could be around the clock surveillance, that is a massive amount of manpower, that alone. Then you talk about the case agents, the squads that have worked in these things. He's right about the number of people that would be involved in this. And I think that's something that we may need to rethink a little bit in how we do that because we just exhaust our efforts very, very quickly. And I think instead of pursuing these things, you know, we lose track of them in a lot of ways. The same thing happened in Boston. I mean, what happens is we track so many people that we start to say, well, this guy is important or this guy is not when we sometimes don't know.

HARLOW: I want you to listen to some of this testimony from Washington, D.C. this week in terms of one of these experts from the Brookings Institute talking about the social media aspect of it. And how it makes it so much more difficult, listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: But when Twitter suspends an account and when other platforms spends an account, that information is no longer available.

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HARLOW: So here's the challenge. How do you attack ISIS on social media? You need to fight their propaganda. You also need to track them on social media. But some are saying you should suspend their accounts so the propaganda isn't out there, but as he points out, if he suspend it, you can't keep tracking them.

[17:28:18] GILLIAM: I'm of the mindset that the fact that they are on social media, it may be a benefit for them, but it's actually a benefit for us because we can track. You know, there's technology out there where you can track who has gone to that particular Twitter feed, who has gone to that website and checked that out. And I think it all boils down to this. And I know I've mentioned this on here before, is that it's really important that law enforcement and mosques not just the United States, throughout the world really do start to develop a relationship. Because now that we, you know, they are on social media, we should take advantage of that. If we track it back to somebody who belongs to a specific mosque, law enforcement in that mosque should work together to identify who these people are and if there's a cancer within that mosque. And I think that's going to be the biggest thing that we can do in connection with social media to stop these things in their effect.

HARLOW: Because we saw it play out in Minneapolis where they have had a huge recruitment problem within the Somali community there is that the religious leaders, the Imams here on the ground want to help law enforcement and are working with law enforcement to try to tackle this.

GILLIAM: Look, it's an awkward thing. I think we have had so many good examples on what's happened in news like this, it could bullied over into this. In Baltimore, you know, the night after the riots, the town came out and really helped stop the riots. I think if the mosques do this and the awkwardness goes away and we work together, I think you'll going to see something really good. Because one thing about Garland, everybody is saying that wasn't a successful attack. Listen, terrorism is the ability to go out and effect terror on a population. That seemed to have happen even though they got killed. So it was a successful attack.

HARLOW: Yes. Thank you very much Jonathan Gilliam, former NAVY Seal, former FBI. I appreciate your perspective.

[17:30:00] We're keeping a close eye on the severe weather. We're going to talk about that.

And also talk about this. Nine Georgia deputies have been fired after a college student -- you're looking at right there -- died in their custody back in January. The details, next.

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HARLOW: Violent weather now threatening much of the central plains. This is a live picture from KOCO in Oklahoma. Tornado watches have been issued until 10:00 central time tonight. The Dallas-Fort Worth area is under an increased threat for tornadoes before the night is over. Some 20 million people could be in the path of the storms in Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas. We'll keep an eye on that.

We're also bringing you this. In Savannah, Georgia, nine sheriff's deputies have now been fired in connection with the death of a college student. 21-year-old Matthew Ajibade was found dead in an isolation cell back on New Year's Day. His family says he was put in restraining chair, handcuffed and tased.

Rosa Flores is here with me now.

This is a very disturbing story. It got attention when he died in January. Then we didn't hear anything for 100 days. Now these nine deputies have been fired.

ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's very telling, Poppy, but there's still a big mystery as to what happened. There's two parallel investigations going on, one, by the Georgia Bureau of Investigations, the other by the sheriffs department. So the sheriff gets the results of the investigation and then we see nine deputies being fired but why. That is the big question.

One of the things that I think is an interesting clue is the change that the sheriff made after he received these two investigations. So he made three changes to his department. I want to share these with you because they are so telling. New booking procedures, is what the sheriff says. He says it's very important for whenever someone is being taken on to the jail for them to have prompt medical attention. That's one thing. That gives us a bit of a clue. Then you have new security procedures. And then he wants an audit of the use of tasers, including when you can't use a taser. Very telling. And then here's the other thing that really stands out to me, Poppy. This is the third thing. This involves cell extraction and removal. I'm going to quote here. "A new refocus of discipline and nonlethal force." Shouldn't that be used all the time?

HARLOW: Right.

FLORES: I think it's so telling these three changes that the sheriff made. [17:36:00] HARLOW: Do we know anything about why he was arrested or

any medical conditions he had?

FLORES: We actually do. So if you just look at the case itself, it takes us back a few months, like you mentioned. What the police have is surveillance video of Ajibade in some sort of altercation with his girlfriend. And in a police report, it says the girlfriend has bruising, has blood, and that when he was arrested, he resisted arrest, and then the situation got out of hand once arrested, once he was in jail, and that's where the police say the three deputies were injured. One of those deputies, a female -- and I'm going to quote here -- "suffered a concussion and a broken nose."

Now his supporters and his family are saying, wait a minute, he had bipolar disorder, he was having a mental episode. The girlfriend said she told him they needed to go to the hospital --

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HARLOW: He needed help.

FLORES: Right, he needed help, that he need to go to the hospital, not to jail. And so then the family says he's taken to jail, he's injured, handcuffed, restrained to a chair and tased, and now we know he's dead.

HARLOW: Right.

FLORES: So again, this is all in the hands of the D.A., the two reports --

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FLORES: Right. Those two reports I was telling you about, in the hands of the D.A. And from what I understand from law enforcement, there could be surveillance video of the altercation inside the jail cell, and perhaps the autopsy, we don't know --

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HARLOW: So there's a lot we still don't know.

But, Rosa Flores, thank you very much for that. Rosa will keep tracking the story for us.

I want to let you know that we are going to talk to the family's attorney, Mark O'Mara. He's going to weigh in straight ahead.

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[17:41:40] HARLOW: Before the break, we brought you the report on the case of a 22-year-old college student found dead in a Georgia isolation cell. It happened back on New Year's Day, but nine deputies have been fired in connection with his death.

Joining me is attorney Mark O'Mara. He's representing the family of the 22-year-old who died in police custody.

Thanks for being here, Mark. Appreciate it.

MARK O'MARA, ATTORNEY FOR FAMILY OF MATTHEW AJIBADE & CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Poppy, great to be here. Thank you.

HARLOW: Let's talk about what the -- very little information has been made public about how he died. But the family believes they know how he died.

O'MARA: Well, that's the frustration. Today is 128 days, and it seems as though anybody who wants to know knows. Georgia Bureau of Investigation seems to know. The sheriff knows now and the prosecutor seems to know, but the people who deserve to know is the family and they don't know anything at all. We believe from some information we can get that we know he had a bipolar episode and police were told he should be brought to the hospital. Matter of fact, his girlfriend gave them the medication that he was supposed to be on. They did nothing but take him to jail, put him in a restraining chair. There was some tussle, but he was in the middle of a bipolar, manic swing. They are supposed to be trained on how to handle this. What he is not supposed to do is put him in a restraining chair, tase him, and let him die. And that's exactly what happened.

HARLOW: He was arrested, as Rosa Flores reported, for a domestic abuse incident with his girlfriend, who had bruising, is that correct?

O'MARA: She had a spot on her nose that was bleeding. No question about it. She was the one who called 911 and said to get there, and told them he needed to be brought to the hospital. She was injured, but she wasn't complaining about that. Although, again, he was in a manic swing. I don't make an excuse for that. It's what he was going through.

HARLOW: Let me ask you this. As I understand it, no charges have been brought, but yet nine of the officers have been fired. Do you know if charges are going to be brought against them?

O'MARA: Well, my frustration is that the authorities are moving ultra slow as though they want this investigation to die some slow death, almost like Matthew did. Because they have done nothing for 120 days. It wasn't until we sent a letter over to them this past week demanding some action that things seemed to be moving a little bit.

Now, for some reason, 128 days into it, now the sheriff knows enough about the case to fire all nine of them. That says to me that nine people, and the other three who left earlier, were involved in actions that caused Matthew's death, and we demand to know why. We want an investigation brought on. I have a call in and a letter into Attorney General Lynch. We're waiting to hear back. We want a special prosecutor, because this prosecutor should not be trying a case literally in her own county where they both pull from the same funding source. We need somebody independent who is going to do a good job, and no good job has been done to date.

HARLOW: Quickly, I have to ask you, is there any to your knowledge, surveillance video of what may have happened in that isolation cell? You'd think there would be.

O'MARA: There is. There is because the jail was just revamped and there are cameras all over the place. They have the videos. Those 12 people no longer officers, they know exactly what happened. We're the only ones who don't. We want the videos. We want the autopsy, how he died.

[17:45:09] HARLOW: Mark O'Mara, thank you very much.

Mark's going to join us again tomorrow on this show. We're also going to be joined by Matthew's cousin, the cousin of that 21 year old who died in police custody. Back with Mark tomorrow night on this show. We'll talk about it more and see if anyone can get that video that Mark says was recorded.

Also, from the streets of Glasgow to the Scottish Highland, why Scotland is one of Anthony Bourdain's favorite places for adventure. A new episode of "Parts Unknown" airs Sunday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here on CNN. Here's a look.

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ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST, PARTS UNKNOWN: The Scottish Highlands, one of the most beautiful places on earth. You get to wear cool clothes, shoot animals, drag them back, cook them and eat them.

The problem is there's hills.

(on camera): After that hill, there's another hill and then another one and another one and another one.

Eight months ago, no way I would have made this walk. You would have been carrying me home by now.

The Scottish Highlands, to me, the most physically challenging episode of my life.

It hurts. It hurts a lot.

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[17:50:03] HARLOW: Welcome back. There's a growing cyber war against women. It's called revenge porn, an online movement devoted to shaming and humiliating people, primarily women, by posting naked photos of them without their permission.

"CNN Money" correspondent, Laurie Segall, joins me now. She has been investigating what's a growing and troubling trend.

Thanks for being here, Laurie.

So this is the subject of your special report airing tonight on CNN. What is revenge porn? LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: That's a good question. We

asked a lot of folks as we started doing the digging. A lot of people don't even know. But online, many people think of a bitter ex posting a picture of an ex-girlfriend online, and a lot of people see their sites devoted to this. But it is also hackers hacking into web cameras, recording women, this buying and selling and trade.

As part of this series, I spoke to a woman who found out her boyfriend at the time was recording her. She saw that inside a pen there was a camera in her desk.

Listen to her story.

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NIKKI RETTELLE, VICTIM OF REVENGE PORN: I don't know what made me unscrew it, never heard of a pen cam at that time, never seen one. Something compelled me to unscrew it. As soon as it opened up and there was a memory card in there, my world started spinning. Never dawned on me that that would end up being put online with my personally identifiable information and campaign against me. It didn't dawn on me that people did that.

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SEGALL: Unfortunately, people do. And there were hundreds of sites on the web devoted to her naked images. Every time she went to get a job, they would Google her name, and she was terrified people would know and see her naked.

HARLOW: The problem is it doesn't seem like law enforcement has a full handle on it, or is willing in all cases to get these off line at all costs.

SEGALL: That's one of the biggest problems. The Internet is here, the law has not 100 percent caught up. A lot of victims go straight to law enforcement. Law enforcement says there's nothing we can do, you shouldn't have taken the pictures. You need to change that mentality, because I can tell you from doing this report, there are sites devoted to shaming women and they have real ramifications.

I ended up speaking to a hacker who hacked into women's inboxes to steal nude photos and sell them and put them online. I got the opportunity to ask him why. Listen to what he says.

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CHARLIE EVANS, HACKER: Again, it makes me sound like a monster.

SEGALL: How much money? Was the money that good?

EVANS: Scary how quickly I would drop my morals for so little. It was like $500 a week, $1000 a week.

SEGALL: What was it like the first time you hacked into a woman's Facebook or Twitter account or inbox? EVANS: I mean, it doesn't feel real. But I am in my room, lights

off, door locked, drinking, I don't feel the consequences.

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SEGALL: You know, I think at the heart of this, at the heart of this series on this harassment and bullying and this form of harassment online is what Charlie Evans -- you heard there -- say, it didn't feel real. If I had to look at a woman and do this, I couldn't do it. There's these growing forms of harassment, people are losing a sense of empathy behind a computer screen --

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HARLOW: And now he's going to go to jail for it?

SEGALL: He will be going to jail. He said it to me himself. I think he is attempting a plea deal. He will likely spend a lot of time in prison, poppy.

HARLOW: One thing you said that struck me is that some law enforcement officers have said to victims, why did you take the picture, complete victim blaming.

SEGALL: Yeah, and that's part of us doing this series. We want to raise awareness of this. I spoke to a woman who had a videotape she took on her honeymoon. This ended up -- her ex-boyfriend ended up putting it online. It had a million hits. She said law enforcement straight up said there really is nothing we can do for you. So they're forced to go different routes. You'll see in the series, one woman had to copyright naked images of herself to the government to get a copyright to sue a site to take it down. The law hasn't caught up. And also, law enforcement needs to take this more seriously.

HARLOW: Hopefully, they will after this special report and your special report.

Laurie, congrats to you and the team.

SEGALL: Thank you.

HARLOW: It is fascinating.

Thank you very much.

Don't miss the special on this trend, "Revenge Porn, Cyber War against Women," only here on CNN, at 7:30 eastern.

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[17:58:28] HARLOW: All right, as we continue to follow breaking news of the severe weather across a number of states this evening, we have a confirmed tornado right near Cisco, Texas, in north central Texas. Again, a confirmed tornado. A tornado warning is in effect there at this moment. We will keep an eye, bring you the latest on severe weather across the country at 7:00 p.m. eastern. But now, time for this week's "CNN's Hero."

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DR. JIM WITHERS, CNN HERO: Street medicine is bringing medical care to the homeless where they are, under the bridges and along the river banks and abandoned buildings.

Safety net. Anybody home?

It's going to the people.

Can you make a fist? Does that hurt?

I've been walking the streets of Pittsburgh for 23 years to treat the homeless.

When I started, I was actually really shocked how ill people were on the street. It was like going to a third-world country.

Anyone home?

There were runaway kids, 85-year-olds, pregnant women, and they all have their own story.

What hurts the most?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This knee is so swollen.

WITHERS: Once you get to know the folks out there, I knew that I had to keep going.

Are you doing OK medically?

And now we've managed to treat over 10,000 people.

Did they put staples in or stitches?

Infections, diabetes, cancers, the list goes on and on.

All right. I'm glad we saw you.

For the folks unwilling to come to us, we have a mobile medical van and then we have drop-in centers?

Just open up again.

We connect with a person.

You got friends. We'll be there for you.

Then we advocate with them to get their insurance, get housing and care.

(END VIDEOTAPE)