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Another 7.3 Magnitude Earthquake Strikes Nepal; NFL Suspends Tom Brady, Slams Patriots with $1 Million Fine; Madison Police Shooting of Unarmed Teen; ISIS Threat Gaining Traction in the U.S. Aired 10-10:30a ET

Aired May 12, 2015 - 10:00   ET

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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Happening now in the NEWSROOM, Nepal rocked again. Another powerful earthquake hitting the already devastated country triggering landslides, buildings collapsing, as people run into the streets. And as the minutes go by, the death toll is rising.

Also --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Four games I think is a little bit excessive.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's excessive. And I don't think he really knew about it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't want to see a banner without Brady.

COSTELLO: Brady benched and Pats' fans fired up. Did the league inflate the penalty to send a message?

Plus, a city on edge awaiting a decision on whether a Madison police officer will face charges in a deadly shooting.

Let's talk. Live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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COSTELLO: And good morning. I'm Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me.

We begin with another powerful earthquake devastating Nepal. This latest one measuring 7.3 in magnitude, striking some 11 miles deep near the border with China. Buildings that were already teetering toppled. At least 39 people killed. More than 1,000 more injured.

And panic in Kathmandu. People flooding into the streets as the violent shaking began. And then came the aftershocks. Some measuring up to 6.3 triggering landslides across the region.

It's only been three weeks since a quake killed 8,000 people across this region. Our senior international correspondent Ivan Watson is in Hong Kong

with more.

Good morning.

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Carol. The sun has recently set in Kathmandu and I think it's safe to say that there are a lot of people in Nepal who are either sleeping out in the streets in tents tonight, in the open or in their cars after this really frightening repeat experience. The second very powerful earthquake to strike this impoverished country in a little bit more than two weeks and coming so soon after the initial April 25th earthquake was the deadliest earthquake that Nepal had seen in generations.

So we've been witnessing this video of people in the halls of parliament fleeing as the earth began to shake this afternoon in Nepal, fleeing out into the streets, of buildings. As we've also been talking to eyewitnesses on the ground who described these terrifying moments.

Now the Nepalese government says at least 36 people have been killed. More than 1100 injured. Nepalese search and rescue teams have been out trying to recover some of the wounded. They are helped by the international aid organizations and rescue teams that flooded into Nepal after the April 25th earthquake. The Indian Air Force has had its helicopters in the air evacuating wounded people from the surrounding countryside.

But this has been still a very frightening experience for people still just beginning to cope with the trauma of the natural disaster that not only killed thousands but also destroyed some of Nepal's most treasured religious and historic monuments just a little bit more than two weeks ago -- Carol.

COSTELLO: It's just so tragic.

Ivan Watson, many thanks to you.

On the phone right now is Paul Dillon. He's a spokesman for the International Organization for Migration. He's in Kathmandu.

Paul, can you describe what it's like on the ground there?

PAUL DILLON, SPOKESMAN, INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MIGRATION: Well, Carol, as Ivan said, you know, many people in Kathmandu this evening have moved from their homes into parks and playgrounds. There is a lot of tarp going up. A lot of large families settling in for another night outdoors.

One of our concerns here is the last few nights we've had some extremely intense electrical storms and pre-monsoon rains, and I guess we're all waiting to see that repeat itself again today just sort of adding to the general misery of the people here and the trauma that they've suffered over the last few hours -- Carol.

COSTELLO: Is there enough shelter for people?

DILLON: I think that there are enough places to shelter. For example, I just have come back from one of the Nepalese army's parade grounds where there's, you know, a large set of properly manufactured tents and things like that. Many of the people have moved in there have brought bamboo and tarpaulins that have been distributed over the last couple of weeks. There are some large -- viewing stands and so on so people are crammed in under there as well.

But clearly there's still a need in Kathmandu. And there's a need a Kathmandu. You can only imagine what the situation is like out on the countryside, Carol.

COSTELLO: Paul Dillon, spokesman for the International Organization for Migration, thanks so much for being with me. I appreciate it. I appreciate all of your fine work there, too.

[10:05:03] Back here at home, families continue sifting through debris following a deadly tornado outbreak. In all five people died and dozens more were injured. Two of those deaths were here in Van, Texas. The twister damaging more than 30 percent of the homes in this tight knit community. In Arkansas, two people lost their lives in this trailer park. Their young daughter found near them still alive.

To find out how you can help the victims from both of these tragedies, the tornado outbreak and the Nepal earthquake, head to CNN.com/impact.

All right. Let's talk some football, shall we? Sidelined and slapped with a $1 million fine, the New England Patriots standing by star quarterback Tom Brady after the NFL decides to issue a four-game suspension over the Deflategate controversy. In addition to a $1 million penalty, the Patriots will forfeit their first-round draft pick next year. Brady's agent already blasting this decision, calling it ridiculous with no legitimate basis.

CNN's John Berman is here to tell us -- I just feel sorry for you. I do. As a Pats fan.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR, "EARLY START": Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for America that they don't get to see Tom Brady for four games. Now look, the rule book says --

COSTELLO: What? They get to see Jimmy Garoppolo --

BERMAN: Jimmy Garoppolo, who by the way, easy on the eyes, Jimmy Garoppolo, but let me say this. The normal penalty, the advised penalty for an infraction dealing with tampering of footballs is $25,000. It can't be more than that. Obviously the league went way, way beyond that. Why? Well, they deem the fact that Tom Brady was generally aware that someone took air out of the footballs was so egregious that it threatens the integrity of the game.

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BERMAN (voice-over): The unprecedented penalties including a four- game suspension for Tom Brady came less than a week after the bombshell 243-page report on Deflategate.

TOM BRADY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS QUARTERBACK: I don't have really any reaction. I haven't had much time to digest it fully.

BERMAN: Players throughout the league are reacting to the punishment.

DEVIN MCCOURTY, PATRIOTS SAFETY: We have full belief and faith in our quarterback and Tom, and it's been like that for me for six years and that's not going to change now.

ELI MANNING, QUARTERBACK, NEW YORK GIANTS: If someone is breaking the rules, I understand you -- you're going to get punished for it.

BERMAN: The report led the league to not only bench the star quarterback but also slapped the Patriots with a $1 million fine. The highest ever. And in another staggering blow, the team has to give up its 2016 first-round draft pick and fourth-round pick in 2017.

DREW ROSENHAUS, SPORTS AGENT: The NFL is on a mission right now to repair some of the mistakes that they made in the past. The NFL league office on this one out of control.

BERMAN: Brady's agent is blasting the decision saying in a statement, "We will appeal," and that, "The discipline is ridiculous, it has no legitimate basis."

New England fans are showing their support online and beyond. There's a #NoBradyNoBanner, pressing the NFL to wait to raise the championship banner until Brady is back on the field.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't want to see a banner without Brady. He's been the franchise.

BERMAN: The Patriots' owner is also sticking by his player stating, "Tom Brady has our unconditional support. Our belief in him has not wavered."

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BERMAN: So why such a severe punishment, Carol? Well, the league says that Tom Brady, the Patriots, not as cooperative as they could have been. Tom Brady didn't turn over his cell phone or e-mails, and also history matters here. The league says the Patriots have a history of bending or breaking the rules, depending on how you look at it, and it has to be taken into consideration. Hence the draft picks and a huge unprecedented fine.

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COSTELLO: John Berman, many thanks. I know that was difficult for you. But you handled with aplomb and I like that.

BERMAN: Appreciate it.

COSTELLO: Actually you can't blame the Patriots fans for being wicked mad. Come on, would you want to take a chance on -- how do you pronounce his name?

BERMAN: Jimmy Garoppolo.

COSTELLO: Jimmy Garoppolo.

BERMAN: I think there are some people who want to take a chance on Jimmy Garoppolo.

COSTELLO: OK. He's handsome. OK, maybe that way. But on the field, I don't know. He is expected to be the team's starting quarterback in Brady's absence. But that's just an aside.

Joining us now to talk about more important issues, someone who thinks the suspension goes way too far, former defensive end for the Atlanta Falcons, Tim Green. He's also a lawyer and a "New York Times" bestselling author of "Football Genius: Part of a Sports Based Series of Novels for Young Readers."

I'm also joined by sports columnist and associate editor for "The Boston Globe," Dan Shaughnessy.

Thanks to both of you for joining me.

So, Tim, I'll start with you.

TIM GREEN, FORMER NFL DEFENSIVE END, ATLANTA FALCONS: Thanks, Carol.

COSTELLO: Thanks for being here.

Tim, I'll start with you. Why do you think that this punishment is too severe?

GREEN: Well, I don't think it's wildly severe. I just think it's a little heavy handed. I understand why the league is doing what they're doing. It's because it's Tom Brady. He's a Super Bowl MVP. The Patriots are this great franchise with all these wins. And he's a superstar. Otherwise I don't think you would see this kind of punishment because the thing that surprises me about it is, it's in line with punishments for drug use and spousal abuse, and the bountygate that you had down in New Orleans several years ago.

[10:10:09] The team is punished to the same effect, a first-round and now -- and a fourth, but down there it was a first and a third. And bountygate was something that was -- to me was just deplorable. I don't like it. Tom Brady was involved in this cheating. I don't condone it. What I'm saying is it just doesn't seem to me that it has magnitude of some of those other infractions.

COSTELLO: So, Dan, do you agree with that? Because had Tom Brady turned over his texts as asked, perhaps this wouldn't have happened.

DAN SHAUGHNESSY, SPORTS COLUMNIST, THE BOSTON GLOBE: Well, I think that it goes to several areas with the Patriots' noncompliance or not being fully compliant. The league doesn't like that. So you have the Brady issue with his cell phones, his data. The team did not make McNally available for the last interview that they wanted after they had discovered the texts. The team lawyered up and said, no, he's not available to you anymore.

The league doesn't like that and it's also the idea of detrimental to integrity. That's what they're hanging this on. They feel strongly about rules violations because of the integrity of the game and fair play. And it's not measured against personal conduct to some of the horrible things that players have done in the recent years. So they set the bar in a bad way with the Ray Rice thing. They'll never recover from that but their effort to not -- I don't know. I think they're trying too hard to create new standards and the Patriots were the victims of this hammer that was dropped.

COSTELLO: OK. So in light of all that, Tim, there's an appeals process. How do you think that will work out?

GREEN: Well --

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Commissioner Goodell is the appellate court so -- you know, I don't think it's going to go well. And I think the league is justified in their position. And again, it's not because of -- I don't think it's because of what was done. I think it was -- and I don't even think it's that much about them not cooperating because you can understand someone not turning over their cell phone as something with privacy issues. I think it's because it is Tom Brady. He is a superstar of the league.

And the NFL wants to, you know, go back and they want to reset how they're perceived and even though it's a minor cheating infraction, you know, they hit him really hard. But I don't think Commissioner Goodell is going to hear anything in that meeting or that appeals process that is going to make him change his mind. I just don't see it.

COSTELLO: OK. So, Dan, on pure emotion, I know that, you know, all of the state of Massachusetts and actually even outside of the state of Massachusetts. There are many people who love Tom Brady, who look up to him.

SHAUGHNESSY: Yes. Yes.

COSTELLO: I mean, he's a fabulous quarterback.

SHAUGHNESSY: Of course.

COSTELLO: And this just besmirches his record.

SHAUGHNESSY: Yes.

COSTELLO: There's nothing he can do about that now.

SHAUGHNESSY: It's difficult. I mean, he wasn't totally forthcoming in the press conference after this was first discovered, AFC championship, and I think there was an interview with Bob Costas during the Super Bowl, and even last week, given a chance to say, I never did any of that, he really didn't do it. His agent has been going all over the place defending him. We understand that. He will appeal. I think he'll get this thing cut from four to two games.

The question for me is if the Patriots going to appeal. As Bob Kraft last week said they would accept the judgments and yesterday his release indicated maybe they won't.

COSTELLO: Yes, he wasn't so happy, was he?

Dan Shaughnessy, Tim Green, thanks for your insight. I appreciate it.

Still to come in the NEWSROOM, under review and on edge. Will a Wisconsin police officer face charges today in the killing of an unarmed teenager? We'll take you to Madison next.

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[10:17:05] COSTELLO: After two months of questions and simmering tension, prosecutors in Madison, Wisconsin, will announce today whether a police officer will face criminal charges in the killing of an unarmed biracial teenager. Killing triggered days of large but peaceful protests. Some supporting law enforcement, others claiming excessive force. This officer involved shooting is being investigated by an outside agency as is required by the law in Wisconsin. Last hour we heard from a lawmaker who co-sponsored that measure.

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CHRIS TAYLOR, WISCONSIN STATE ASSEMBLY: We thought it was incredibly important to make sure that investigations when there is an officer- involved death are done independently and as unbiased as possible.

You know, Carol, several years before this latest shooting of Tony Robinson, there was an officer-involved shooting not two blocks from where this incident occurred and that really led myself and another lawmaker to take a look at these investigations and to make sure that they were done as independently as possible so that the public had confidence in the outcome.

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COSTELLO: Let's bring in CNN's Ryan Young. He's live in Madison, Wisconsin, this morning.

So, Ryan, what do you expect to happen today?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning, Carol. People are bracing for it. In fact, several people have walked by us, asking us questions, do we have any idea what was going to happen today. I can tell you, protests are planned regardless of this decision. But one thing we should mention is the way that the Madison Police Department handled this in the initial says. In fact so much information was given, even the family was calling for peace.

And when the protests started to happen and people started to walk in the street, and even take over the capitol, you had someone always there in the crowd making sure the situation didn't get out of hand. Now here at the site where this shooting happened, what we've learned

of course was Tony Robinson, 911 calls came in. He was running through the streets. The officer arrived here to this apartment that's just behind me. Heard a noise on the other side of the door and said he had to go in because he felt like someone may have been in danger. That's where the encounter happened.

Of course, hopefully we'll get more information from the D.A.'s office about what exactly happened but the officer did suffer a concussion. He pulled his weapon and fired three times killing for Tony Robinson. Since then people have been calling for that open investigation to find out exactly what happened here. And the officer's attorney spoke days ago about just exactly what he thinks should happen in the next coming days.

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JIM PALMER, ATTORNEY FOR OFFICER MATT KENNY: They're very cognizant of the fact that Tony Robinson's family has suffered a tragic loss. And so that's something that weighs on them as well. But obviously, you know, since the incident occurred to, you know, hear him -- hear Officer Kenny referred to as a racist and murderer when there has been so little information that's been in the public view I think has been very difficult.

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YOUNG: Now a lot of people have been talking about this investigation and why the officer did not use a taser. I can tell you in Madison officers are not allowed to pull their taser unless they have backup. That's why they had guns. Also the officer felt like his life was in danger. And that's according to the reports that came in.

[10:20:05] We've also heard those 911 calls that he had to respond, and once he went inside that struggle started. Now people want to know the information and what happens today, like I said once again protests are expected again -- Carol.

COSTELLO: All right. Ryan Young, we'll get back to you. Thanks so much.

At the top of the hour we're also expecting to learn more on another high-profile police shooting. This one in Cleveland, Ohio. The Cuyahoga County sheriff will update the investigation into the death of Tamir Rice. He's the 12-year-old who refused police orders to drop what looked like a gun last November. After police shot and killed him, they discovered the gun was a BB gun.

Last week his mother held a news conference demanding to know why the investigation is not yet finished.

Still to come in the NEWSROOM, ISIS supporters are threatening cyber attacks on America. What's being done to stop it, next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COSTELLO: Saudi-led airstrikes continue to pound rebel-held cities across Yemen in the hours before a humanitarian cease-fire kicks in. A five-day break from the bloodshed is expected to begin in about seven hours. A rocket strike in the country's capital, though, killed at least 90 people overnight.

"The New York Times" reporting that more than 1400 people, most of them civilians, have been killed since Saudi Arabia began airstrikes back in March. All sides warned they will retaliate if the truce is broken.

Online recruiting may be the most dangerous aspect of ISIS. That's the warning from the head of the NSA who says the terror group's violent message is spreading in America over social media.

CNN's Nick Paton Walsh has more for you.

Hi, Nick.

[10:25:08] NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it is a stark warning from the director of the National Security Agency, Michael Rogers, Admiral Michael Rogers, in which he makes it clear and this is something perhaps which many Americans have heard about since the Texas attacks were claimed by ISIS after the fact and the attackers pledged allegiance to ISIS' leader before them.

Admiral Rogers suggesting that the Internet and the threat from ISIS ideology spreading over that and gaining traction in the U.S. is growing. Here's what he had to say.

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ADM. MICHAEL ROGERS, COMMANDER, U.S. CYBER COMMAND: This concern about individuals within the United States resonated, if you will, with the ideology of ISIL and the idea of just acting violently, indiscriminately, is clearly a great concern. It's a trend that things would suggest is increasing, not decreasing.

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WALSH: And that's one of the key issues for investigators dealing with the ISIS threat outside of the Middle East and here in Iraq where ISIS are predominantly based. It's exactly how do you prevent an ideology from spreading over social media. There seems less occasions to be a direct link between the ISIS chain of command and those ISIS attackers. The lone wolves as they are often called attacking in various different Western countries.

That used to be the traditional model for extremism which investigators could try and latch onto and then interdict at a later stage. The fear being lone wolves simply need to be inspired and then get their training and tactics from perhaps manuals set online.

There is other important context, though, behind Admiral Rogers' statement. He's talking to a cybersecurity forum at a time where in the weeks ahead the NSA who took substantial criticism after revelations of Edward Snowden for their mass surveillance tactics. The NSA will in the weeks ahead try and renew some of the powers they have to look into Internet traffic on a broad, sweeping level.

This of course a statement which will add fuel to their claims that they need to be able to look into many different types of bulk communication, to be able to stop ISIS who are increasingly, according to the former deputy director of the CIA in his recent book, able to use encrypted technology in order to hide their communications.

A growing and evolving threat and one in which U.S. officials are trying to seek a compromise they say between the individual's right to privacy and the United States and the need to try and combat this complex and often amorphic, changing extremist threat.

Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Beirut.

COSTELLO: All right. Still to come in the NEWSROOM, the number of Americans identifying themselves as Christians is dropping precipitously. How will it affect the 2016 presidential race? We'll talk about that next.

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