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Quake Kills 36 in Nepal, 17 in India; Highest Level U.S. Visit to Russia in Two Years; Yemen Cease-Fire to Start in Less than Five Hours; Manila's New Crown Jewel; Western Boycott of Victory Day in Moscow; Thai Fishermen Not Recognized as Trafficking Victims; Parting Shots. Aired 11- 12a ET
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[11:00:15] BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST (voice-over): Another terrifying day winding down in Nepal, people there enduring yet another powerful
earthquake. This one hit about midday local time on Tuesday with a magnitude of 7.3, at least 53 people are confirmed dead, including 17 in
India and more than 1,100 are injured. Now this quake comes less than three weeks after the devastating one that killed more than 8,000 people
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON (voice-over): Today's quake was less powerful than that 7.8 earthquake but still brought down buildings and triggered landslides like
this one north of Kathmandu. And as they did after the episode in April, many traumatized people will spend the night outside for fear of falling
Mark Sarrado (ph) is in Nepal and felt the earthquake when it hit. He's a documentary filmmaker and he joins us now from Kathmandu via Skype.
Tell us, Mark, exactly where you were and what happened.
MARK SARRADO (PH), DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER: We were in northern province in Kochi (ph). We were shooting some general footage from the area on
assignment with UNHCR. And suddenly the ground started to move and it was pretty scary because just only the movement, the shaking stopped, the
scary, the most scary thing that I felt today was to hear the whole valley screaming. (INAUDIBLE) they already know what next. They know what comes
after these shocks on the first earthquake on the 25th of April.
They've lost everything they had, almost 100 percent of the houses in that area are completely ruined from the first earthquake. And now it's a
second and obviously it's (INAUDIBLE).
ANDERSON: I know you've driven back to Kathmandu since then.
What did you see on that drive?
SARRADO (PH): Yes, we were on our way back to Kathmandu. It's our location was 2.5 hours (INAUDIBLE) from Kathmandu. And on the way back, we
were pretty surprised to see a lot of people on the streets. And after finding out that the -- it was not just an aftershock, it was an earthquake
itself, we found out this from the reaction of the people, everybody was outside because this is the one of the main things that you have to do when
you feel the shake. You have got to out in order to avoid any physical damage on yourself then.
ANDERSON: How are people dealing with this, Mark?
SARRADO (PH): Yes, what I'm feeling on this new episode is that people is getting very -- I would say a very mature understanding of what it means.
They went through as you know a big calamities and it was completely devastating of the whole country. It would have consequences for decades
to go back to certain kind of normality in Nepal. And people really know what it means. They know how to react on the second earthquake. And it's
really surprising how the Nepalese society is organizing themselves not in that the -- sorry, this is not prepared to deal with a phenomenon of this
ANDERSON: Yes, Mark, stay in touch, devastating stuff. We do appreciate your time.
ANDERSON: Rupa Joshi is a spokeswoman for UNICEF in Nepal. She's now lived through two powerful earthquakes in the past three weeks. She spoke
with my colleague, Robyn Curnow, last hour. Have a listen.
RUPA JOSHI, UNICEF SPOKESPERSON: In the last quake I was at home. In this quake, I was at the UNICEF office, along with my colleagues. And it was a
massive jolt. And we thought it would go away, just like the other aftershocks. But then it just went on and on. We all dived under a table,
hoping it would go away. But it just -- for me, it just seemed endless. It seemed actually even longer than the first quake, which I know was quite
But it was here for all of us. It was a big -- I think it's quite a traumatic event. You know you think you're just over the worst and you're
just beginning to put your head up, rear your head up and then, wham, you know, it was like, yes, pretty traumatic and everybody in the office was
shaken. I had come back home and the family's all shaken and everybody is (INAUDIBLE). They're all out in the open fields in the center of the city
as I was driving by. You could just see things filled with cars and more cars and motorcycles and people just rushing in and setting up tents. So
many people will be out in the open again tonight.
ROBYN CURNOW, CNN HOST: So as you say, wham, again, it hits again. What does that mean beyond the psychological trauma and then that sort of deep
devastation of feeling scared?
What does that mean for the aid efforts?
JOSHI: I think in a sense probably, just even listening to the reports that are coming in and the information that we've got so quickly this time,
I think because of that earthquake and the relief effort is going on and there's a kind of system in place now. I think we are getting information
much quicker and people are already in the ground here, helping out on the first quake. So even the relief efforts, I think, are for digging out
people, there were some people here with all the machinery. So I think things have moved much faster in that sense. But trauma, I mean, if you
look at the -- especially the children who are just refusing to go back into the building and were just maybe beginning to believe that there it's
maybe safe enough to go in, for them this is another major setback, not just for kids, even for people like us actually. And if you'd look at in
the mountainsides, where especially (INAUDIBLE) Sindhupalchowk, which is east of the Kathmandu Valley, whereas which got the worst blunt of the last
earthquake, the major earthquake, even though the epicenter was west of Kathmandu, and now the epicenter is further east and closer to that, that
threaten more one -- two more districts now, there are many reports of the houses that have stood up being flattened again, including the concrete
houses, which had withstood the first earthquake because the earthquake in April 35th (sic) pulled down most of the mud mortar buildings.
ANDERSON: Rupa Joshi reporting for you there, describing what she saw and what she felt.
CNN's Ivan Watson has been on this story since it broke today and was in Nepal covering or reporting on the devastation last month. He's in Hong
Kong and joins us now.
What do we know about humanitarian efforts still ongoing, Ivan?
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we know that if there's one silver lining to this earthquake, Becky, it is that a lot of
international assistance flooded into Nepal after the April 25th earthquake and there are still search and rescue teams from other countries, from the
U.S. for example, that were on the ground when this most recent 7.3 magnitude earthquake struck.
Not only that, but the Nepalese emergency services have been mobilized since April 25th. So they've been able to respond in some ways, it
appears, much more quickly. We've been hearing about the evacuation of dozens of wounded people by Nepalese -- by the Nepalese military and police
and also by the Indian air force, which still has helicopters on the ground in Nepal ever since April 25th. They've also been able to do some survey
of the more far-flung areas, areas that will likely be cut off by fresh landslides and avalanches. That said, the fear on the ground, the sheer
kind of trauma that people have had to endure again is pretty awful. I've been messaging with some of the friends that I've made in Nepal after the
April 25th earthquake and they're just kind of dumbfounded by the fact that so soon after the deadliest earthquake in generations hit Nepal, they are -
- have now again been hit by a 7.3 magnitude earthquake. People who had just started to show comfortable going back into their homes now pitching
tents again out on the street, sleeping in cars again and it will certainly take a long time for people to regain the confidence to go back into
buildings now potentially damaged, those still standing after two very powerful earthquakes in under three weeks -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Ivan, as you've been saying, there's some cause for optimism. We just heard from a UNICEF representative that information is getting to
people a lot quicker this time. It is early hours yet.
[11:10:00] Do we have any idea of the extent of the damage across the country?
WATSON: Well, we know that the Nepalese military and its emergency response committee, they've announced that they believe that one of the
areas that was hit hardest is located to the east of Kathmandu. It's a region called Dolakha and there, the Nepalese military, had conducted a
number of sorties, even within 3-4 hours of the initial 7.3 magnitude earthquake.
We do know in Kathmandu for example that there was at least one building in a market district that had been basically declared off limits by the
Nepalese authorities because of prior damage and a man that we worked with described how he basically came tumbling down. But fortunately because it
had been previously declared off limits, it was not feared that anybody had been inside when this five-story structure came down.
So again, there are some signs that the warnings that were put out in the last two weeks may have helped save lives as this second powerful
earthquake hit -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Ivan Watson is on in Hong Kong reporting on this story for you, while this was significantly smaller than the April 25th earthquake, but
still plenty powerful, cameras went rolling as the parliament building in the capital shook. Lawmakers inside fled for their lives. U.S. Geological
Survey says today's trembler had a magnitude of 7.3 as Ivan was pointing out and was centered nearly 100 kilometers east of Kathmandu. The April
25th earthquake just northwest of the capital with a magnitude of 7.8. And there is a big difference.
To talk about that, we're joined now by CNN's Chad Myers at the CNN Weather Center. Just how different is this?
CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Oh, many times, almost 15 times as least powerful -- less powerful than the other. But that's not the problem. The
problem is these buildings were already broken. And now this shake, at 7.3, is a big earthquake all by itself, a 7.3 shook those buildings again
and that's why they tumble.
Let's do a little chalkboard here. Here is the fault that separates the Indian Plate from the Eurasian Plate. It's been crashing, they've been
crashing together for millions of years. That's why the mountains are there in the first place. That's why Mt. Everest is there in the first
place. So let's get you and zoom you into what happened with this latest quake.
The first quake actually -- and people think about an earthquake being an epicenter; that's the only spot. That's not how it happens. The
earthquake, when the Earth shifts, when the Earth cracks and moves, it can move for many miles. So the center of the earthquake, the 7.8, was here
but it sheared all the way along the fault, all the way north of Kathmandu. Then it stopped. That's how we got 7.8. But this latest quake induced by
this quake or maybe later on we'll figure out that actually is an aftershock, continued that ruptured, continued that fault along farther
down the line.
So farther down the line ruptured, it stopped, couple of small aftershocks, 5.0, 6.0 and then all of a sudden the next quake happened here. They are
absolutely related. Are they -- is one part of another? I don't know yet. We don't know whether it's an aftershock or not. But 7.3 doesn't really
matter; that's a big earthquake in itself. And it was felt by 3.8 million people there in Kathmandu. And it continues now.
We're still watching the pager data from the United States Geological Survey thinking still less than 1,000 fatalities but certainly more than
100. That's where the bell curve kind of comes to its peak right through here -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Yes. Chad, appreciate that, remarkable stuff and disturbing stuff of course --
ANDERSON: -- tonight. We are hours away from a planned cease-fire in Yemen. How much needed aid will finally get into the hands of those who
need it? Well, that's a big question and we'll discuss that at this hour for you.
First up though, repairing a rocky relationship. U.S. secretary of state has hit Russia for the first time since the crisis in Ukraine. You're
watching CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson, keeping you bang up to date on that second major earthquake in Nepal. (INAUDIBLE).
[11:15:51] ANDERSON: Recap of our top story this hour, Nepal reeling from another powerful earthquake. It's killed at least 53 people including 17
in India, more though than 1,000 people are injured and do expect those numbers to rise. This comes less than three weeks after what was that
devastating 7.8 magnitude quake that killed more than 8,000.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): Tuesday's tremor had a magnitude of 7.3. It toppled buildings and triggered landslides like this one near Kathmandu.
And like last month's many frightened people are setting up tents outside because of concerns about falling debris.
Back to that story as we get more of course this hour.
Ukraine, Syria, Iran and ISIS, all on the table today during the highest level U.S. visit to Russia in two years. Secretary of State John Kerry is
meeting with President Vladimir Putin and other Russian officials in the resort town of Sochi. Now the U.S. and Russia are searching for common
ground on difficult issues but they are also looking to repair their own relationship, strained over the crisis in Ukraine.
We're awaiting remarks anytime now from Secretary Kerry and the Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, as soon as that news conference starts.
Of course we will bring it to you. Ahead of that, let's get you the very latest on these talks from Moscow.
Our senior international correspondent Matthew Chance joins us live.
What do we heard, Matthew?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, so far, very little because so far there's been closed-door meetings between Secretary
Kerry, the U.S. secretary of state and his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov. They've had a long working lunch that went on for several hours
longer than it was scheduled to do so.
And the meeting with Vladimir Putin has begun really only within the past hour. We're not clear at this point when it's going to break up, how long
it's going to go on for. Afterwards, as you mentioned, there will be this press conference; it's not clear to us whether it's going to be a joint
press conference but it will involve both of the top diplomats, secretary of state and the foreign minister.
In terms of what they've got to talk about, they have a relationship which is incredibly important and a relationship which is at its depth since the
collapse of the Soviet Union, since the end of the Cold War. Never in the past decade or two decades have relations between the two countries been as
poor as this over Ukraine.
The crisis there, Washington accusing Moscow of involvement in the conflict; Eastern Ukraine angry over Moscow's decision to annex Crimea.
That could insular last year, there are international sanctions in place led by the United States on Russia's economy.
Russia, for its part, is angry at what it sees as continued NATO expansion into Eastern Europe and deployment of elements of the missile defense
system in Eastern Europe, which it believes threatens its own nuclear deterrent. And so there's that whole gamut of problems between these two
[11:20:05] At the same time, Becky, there are areas where they have to cooperate over those issues you mentioned, over Iran, over Syria, over ISIS
and that's why they're trying to find some common ground.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. All right. Well, we await that news conference, which we hope we will learn more what was discussed.
Matthew, for the time being, thank you. In just a few hours a much needed humanitarian cease-fire is set to start in Yemen. Saudi Arabia says it
will implement the five-day pause at 11:00 pm local time. And I think the appointed spokesman says the rebels have agreed with this proposal. On the
ground violence has intensified despite what is this planned truce. Saudi coalition airstrikes continue to target enemy Houthi positions in the
capital, Sanaa. At least 25 people were killed and more than 100 injured in that Saudi-led airstrike on a weapons depot on Monday.
Following developments from Beirut has been reporting on Yemen now, with Yemen on this year.
We talked to this time yesterday, we talked about the potential for this cease-fire and we talked about whether we believed that it would actually
happen and how significant it would.
Your thoughts at this point?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SR. INTL. CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think tensions are certainly heightened ahead of it, simply as the death toll of the series of
airstrikes that hit the capital, Sanaa, one of which hit an ammunitions depot, an army base and death toll has, according to some Houthi officials,
risen to 90 with possibly hundreds of people injured as well. There is quite a staggeringly large figure for one day's violence just ahead of this
Now of course many, as we said before, Becky, notes that when there's a cease-fire called, the sides involved often heighten their activity ahead
of it because they want to be sure they get the certain things they wanted to have done on the ground, they want to occupy theirs before that
cessation in hostilities comes in.
And we're 4.5 hours away from it now and the bigger question broadly is while we have Gulf leaders headed to Camp David less than perhaps invited
or hoped by Washington, but certainly a symbolic image will be seen at some point, Barack Obama next to many key Gulf heads of state who are involved
in the coalition campaign against the Houthis in Yemen, as we see that moment on the ground, too, the question is how cohesive can the Houthis be
in implementing this cease-fire.
They have militia loyals from the former president, Saleh, fighting alongside them. There are also other tribes in the mix, pursuing their own
agenda. The key question is, despite John Kerry and Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, stating that little infractions will necessarily
blow the whole cease-fire, we will have to see if significant tampering down of the violence in the hours ahead prepared to actually stick and then
of course there is the changing terminology being used by the Saudis.
They originally called this a cease-fire when they stood next to John Kerry. Now it's being often termed humanitarian cause. A lot of aid has
to flood in. It's a deeply complex task regardless if it hostility is still ongoing -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Yes, well put. Nick Paton Walsh out of Beirut for you this evening.
I am in Abu Dhabi. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson. When we come back, more of course on what has been a breaking news story in
the past couple of hours, that Nepal rocked by a second powerful earthquake in just three weeks. We look at the extent of the devastation up next.
[11:25:32] JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR (voice-over): This is Manila's new crown jewel, wide and neat pedestrian streets, parks,
museums, shopping and shiny new office buildings all packed into a 2.4 sq kilometer place, Bonifacio Global City.
Soon, even the Philippines stock exchange will set up shop here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The original people who conceptualized Bonifacio visited several great cities. They went to Paris; they went to Singapore,
to New York and other places where they feel the massive planning was correct and they tried to apply it here.
DEFTERIOS (voice-over): As a result, property value has shot up. According to global property consultant Jones Lang LaSalle, prices for
residential units in the district go up to around $4,300 per sq meter. Prices in other notable districts reach a maximum of $2,600, making
Bonifacio one of the most expensive areas in Manila.
The business district is a drastic difference from the chaotic streets of the rest of Manila. It is also a far cry from what the area used to be
more than a century ago when it was an American military base camp. Underground tunnels were built for storage and movement.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): I think the Spaniards (INAUDIBLE) but not very strongly. But during the American period, this area was called Fort
McKinley and (INAUDIBLE) after (INAUDIBLE) McKinley was one of the best forts the Americans had. It was an Olympic-sized swimming pool. There was
a YMCA. There was a PX. It was like (INAUDIBLE) used to be the division (INAUDIBLE) residence.
DEFTERIOS (voice-over): During the Second World War, the Japanese took over.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): They turned this into a fort that they called Sakura Heiei. When the Americans came back, there was some fighting
that took place here. And then after that it was more or less left abandoned.
DEFTERIOS (voice-over): It finally returned to the Philippines in 1949 and was renamed Fort Bonifacio after the revolutionary hero, Andres Bonifacio.
Today these tunnels are the only remnants of the past, running under the business district of the future. The base's conversion and development
authority is in charge of transforming idle army camps like these into a hotbed of economic activity.
The land is privatized and funds are redistributed back to the Philippines army.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we preserve our past so lessons of our history, but at the same time, developments must be forward-looking.
Security needs now are different than the past.
DEFTERIOS (voice-over): Bonifacio Global City, though far from complete, the hope is that it will help Manila's economy move upwards while
preserving tradition with plans to convert the tunnel into a history museum. It's a business model that's trying to balance heritage with
development -- John Defterios, CNN.
[11:31:00] ANDERSON: This is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Becky Anderson. The top stories for you this hour.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON (voice-over): Another 7.3 magnitude earthquake has killed at least 36 people in Nepal and at least 17 in India; Nepalese officials there
at least 1,100 are injured and you can expect that number to go higher. It toppled buildings, damaged by last month's powerful, more powerful
earthquake and also triggered landslides like this one.
A team from Doctors for Nepal took this picture while en route to Mt. Everest.
A blogger has been hacked to death in Bangladesh, posting criticism of Islam online. Police say four masked men attacked Ananta Bijoy Das with
cleavers as he headed to work in the northeast of the country. He's the third person to be hacked to death on the streets this year for online
posts that took issue with Islamic religion.
A NATO official tells Reuters that a European Union mission helicopter has crashed at Pristina airport in the capital of Kosovo. Several people are
reported injured. According to Reuters, local media are reporting that the airport was closed following the incident.
And U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is meeting with President Vladimir Putin and other top Russia officials in Sochi today. Now they are
ostensibly trying to repair bilateral ties strained by the crisis in Ukraine as well as reach common ground on issues ranging from the Syrian
war to Iran's nuclear program.
Let's go to Washington now. Our chief U.S. security correspondent, Jim Sciutto, joining us live.
What do you think John Kerry is hoping to achieve realistically out of this meeting?
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF U.S. SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, I think low exceptions in light of the state of the relationship on all those
issues you mentioned, Syria, Ukraine and Iran, et cetera. That said, I wonder if you could sense just the slightest opening here.
It's interesting; I was speaking to the administration's point man on Iraq and Syria, Brett McGurk, this weekend. He referenced a renewed effort for
a peaceful resolution in Syria, openness of talking to the Assad regime as the Assad regime has been on its back foot, of course, it's Russia that
supports the Assad regime.
They're going to be talking about that, just the slightest opening that may be the sides might be closer to talking.
Then on Ukraine, you had the Russian president just a few days ago speaking with the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, delivering a tough message, but
he took that meeting. He had to expect a tough message there.
Just talking about that issue may be a signal of a step in the right direction but, again, you've got to have low expectations because we know
how broad and deep the differences are on those issues -- Syria, Ukraine.
Then you have progress on the Iran nuclear talks and that deadline looming and that's the issue where the U.S. and Iran are largely on the same page.
ANDERSON: The U.S. and European Union, Jim, have tried to portray Russia as isolated over factions in Ukraine. Most Western leaders boycotting
recent Victory Day celebrations in Moscow as you point out. Angela Merkel, though, was there but President Putin wasn't alone. The leaders of
China, of India and South Africa, for example, were among the dignitaries who did attend on I think it was May 9th, Egypt, a strong U.S. ally also
took part in the commemorations to mark the end of World War II.
Here we see President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi meeting with President Putin. The sanctions are hurting them. There is no doubt about that. Putin,
though, is still around. Policy, Jim, hasn't changed to all intents and purposes. And he isn't as out in the cold as some may have it, is he?
SCIUTTO: He's that way and remember until just before that, the North Korean leader was one of the invitees and he said he was coming and then he
didn't come in the end.
Listen, these are important relationships for Russia, but that relationship with Europe is so essential economically.
[11:35:05] And Russia is isolated on the issue of Ukraine, the trouble are the costs of that isolation high enough to change its policy on the ground.
And at this point, it doesn't appear that it has been. And frankly, from the European side, you have some -- a bit of a back-and-forth, some fence-
sitting there as to whether the European nations are willing to bear the economic cost of isolating Russia. And that's why you've had some
measured, you might call it, or to some frustrating progress on ratcheting up the sanctions and the situation on the ground in Eastern Ukraine has not
improved. They're speaking to U.S. intelligence and defense officials in the last couple of weeks. They've sensed the movement of more Russian
weapons, soldiers along the border in these last couple of weeks. It doesn't look like an improvement there.
ANDERSON: Jim Sciutto, always a pleasure, out of Washington for you today.
SCIUTTO: Thank you.
ANDERSON: Let's get you back to the breaking news from Nepal, another powerful earthquake, east of Kathmandu, dozens have been killed today and
more than 1,000 have been injured. So expect more, I'm afraid, triggering another humanitarian emergency.
Ivan Watson reports.
WATSON (voice-over): A mountain crumbles when the Earth begins to shake in Nepal. For the second time in a little more than two weeks, a powerful 7.3
magnitude earthquake strikes this mountainous country. Frightened people run out into the streets.
In parliament, lawmakers flee the assembly chamber. Nepal was just starting to come to grips with the devastation caused by a 7.8 magnitude
earthquake on April 25th. That disaster killed more than 8,000 people and left many more homeless. CNN producer Manesh Shretza (ph) was working as
a volunteer, clearing debris from the last earthquake when Tuesday's trembler struck.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
MANESH SHRETZA (PH), CNN PRODUCER: I think seven or eight houses fell right in front of me. (INAUDIBLE) a few minutes ago but we are OK right
now. The volunteers were working day and night. They are too scared now. My volunteers, they are too scared to go to the village and do the debris
cleaning. It's for our own safety also. We are not safe. We have to stick together and stay in the valley and stay in the safe zone. So we are
mentally not prepared for this.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
WATSON (voice-over): But unlike the last earthquake, this time emergency workers and aid organizations were mobilized and ready, assisted by foreign
search and rescue teams and helicopters from neighboring India.
They are all helping evacuate those most recently wounded. Many of the Nepalese people will sleep out in the open tonight, away from damaged
buildings, fearful of the next time the Earth may shake -- Ivan Watson, CNN.
ANDERSON: Well, let's get more on this for you. I'm joined by Kent Page (ph), who is an emergency spokesman for UNICEF, joining us from Kathmandu
What are you hearing about the damage caused and the challenges on the ground for organizations like your own?
KENT PAGE (PH), UNICEF: There's a lot of damage. We're getting reports in. We've heard of 38 deaths so far; more injuries. We've heard of
collapsed buildings in different parts of the country ,also in Kathmandu one of my colleagues at UNICEF saw the wall of a school come crumbling
down. I was actually in a school doing assessment of damage of that school from the first earthquake when the earthquake hit. It hit very hard, very
fast ,very loud, very scary. We all ran out into a courtyard. The earthquake lasted about a minute I believe; it felt like a day. We all
thought the buildings were going to collapse around us. Fortunately they didn't. But obviously that school is declared unsafe and we put up a red
flag there, no children will enter that school.
There's a lot of damage here and the Nepalese people have already been through a lot, particularly the children. This is their second major
earthquake in just over two weeks. So we're very concerned about their physical health but also their psychosocial health.
ANDERSON: We spoke to a colleague of yours last hour who said if there were a bright side to this, that is that information at least is getting
through quicker than during the earthquake in April and that so many organizations like your own are already on the ground.
So hopefully things will be quicker, action emergency services, et cetera. But just how are people coping? How would you describe those whose lives
have been damaged once again?
PAGE (PH): Well, the Nepalese people have been through hell basically with the first earthquake.
[11:40:04] It was about two weeks since that earthquake and people were starting to recover and clear rubble and build back their lives.
The children particularly very scared, very anxious and now this second earthquake hits. It was scary for me. I can't imagine what it's like for
a child to go through two of these earthquakes, one after another in just two weeks. UNICEF and other aid organizations were literally working
around the clock, getting emerging humanitarian supplies to people. They desperately need it and we're doing everything possible for them.
ANDERSON: With that, we'll let you get on with what is incredibly important work. We do very much appreciate your time. Thank you.
Isa Soares, one of my colleagues who's been monitoring reaction to this Nepal quake on social media joins us now from CNN in London.
Isa, aid workers, citizens journalists, all talking to social media platforms to share news about what is going on.
What are you hearing?
What are you seeing?
ISA SOARES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Becky, quite right. We are starting to get a real sense of what is happening on the ground, the devastation from
(INAUDIBLE) Nepalis to NGOs just like UNICEF that you've been talking about as well as to embassies really.
Now let me get you a sense of what we've heard in the last couple of hours, U.N. Office for Coordination (INAUDIBLE) Affairs in the Asia Pacific, this
is what they've been treating, roughly 20 or 30 newly damaged buildings. They've seen those figures are expecting to increase, keeping an eye on
that. Their staff have actually been working outside in tents, Becky.
And I want to show you this, in the last few hours, this coming in, you can see the night and now it's quite late, it's about 40 minutes past 9:00 or
so, so as night was falling in, people outside in this street, a UNICEF speaker was speaking to you just now, people scared of going back outside,
back indoors for fear there will be any sort of aftershocks.
We've also been hearing for -- from the International Organization for Migration an upside of all this is that these charities and NGOs are
already being mobilized, they're there and they're helping out. Based approximately 2,000 people have been putting up tents in golf courses in
Kathmandu. And Paul Dillon, who is a spokesman for IOM, who's been on air today says that search and rescue teams are ready to begin searching
through the wreckage in Chartara (ph) and this is just east of Kathmandu.
The group has also shared this picture really from a highway. This is a landslide as you can see here. This at the bottom here, that is a main
way, the route to go from India. You get some sort of the idea of the challenges that rescue workers as well as aid workers face, of course, this
being one of the main routes that's been blocked.
Now the U.S. embassy has been working actively on the ground -- if I can get this image up to you -- no, it's not playing ball. But they have
actually working heavily on the ground, they say they are sending military -- there we go, it's up -- U.S. military flying injured to Kathmandu.
We're hearing similar situation from the British embassy who are really going to hospitals and hotels, anyone who needs assistance -- Becky.
ANDERSON: What about from ordinary Nepalis? How are they coping? What have we heard from them briefly?
SOARES: Yes, we have been hearing from them and a lot of them have been telling us they are sleeping outside. If I can just show you this picture
as danny shine (ph), this is a populese (ph), this is a family, Becky, that was indoors when they heard what happened. They shared this photo through
Instagram. He was watching TV, then he heard what happened. Pops falling and then he and his family could feel the aftershocks. They went outside.
They set up really what you see, camping with the kids outside. And they felt really trying to shelter from any sort of aftershocks. An iReporter
who lives in Kathmandu, his name is Salgat Adihari (ph). And he said he was -- he sent us all these photos, Becky, and he was the one that said
devastation is just overwhelming, what they're seeing on the ground. So of course if people want to help, CNN slash impact, some of the organizations
there, Becky. Back to you.
ANDERSON: Yes, tragic but do help if you can, viewers.
Thank you, Isa.
Live from Abu Dhabi, this is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson.
Coming up, keeping you right on top of the news out of Nepal, of course, Saudi women breaking some social taboos through art. That is tonight's
parting shots. Back to you in about 10 minutes from now for you.
First up though, we continue what is a shocking look inside the Asia Pacific fishing industry, forced to work and finally freed but former
slaves say they are still not finding justice. That's next.
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[11:45:03] ANDERSON (voice-over): Rocks and debris cascade down a mountain in Nepal during what was a powerful earthquake that hit about nine
hours ago now. It's already blamed for 48 deaths in that country, another 17 in here, at least one in Tibet. More than 1,200 people now are injured
in Nepal alone.
Today's earthquake had a magnitude of 7.3. That is considerably smaller than the one that killed 8,000 people last month but clearly devastating.
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ANDERSON: The International Organization for Migration is warning of a humanitarian emergency in the making in the Bay of Bengal. Now the group
says around 7,000 migrants are adrift at sea, abandoned by traffickers after a crackdown on human smuggling by Thailand. Around 600 migrants were
rescued off the coast of Indonesia on Sunday. Many of the arrivals are Rohingya, an oppressed Muslim minority from Myanmar, which the United
Nations says is one of the most persecuted groups of people in the world.
Well, CNN's "Freedom Project" highlights efforts to end modern-day slavery around the world. If you're a regular viewer of this channel, you will
know that it is not something that we apologize for in the least. These are important stories and this week we are focusing on the Asia Pacific
fishing industry. In a recent crackdown on illegal fishing, the Indonesian government found thousands of men who they say were forced to work as
slaves on ships.
In the first of a three-part series we aired Monday, we saw how an investigative report in Thailand exposed the poor conditions that those men
have endured with no way out.
Well, in this, the next part of the series, CNN discovers dozens of fishermen who have returned home from their ordeal to find they are not
recognized as victims of trafficking. Saima Mohsin reports.
MOHSIN (voice-over): In early April, Thailand's prime minister Prayut Chan-o-cha officially declared the fight against human trafficking a
national agenda. Over the years, despite the political posturing, activist groups say there's little to show that changes have been made or that
they're proving effective.
We met Samart Senasook, who'd been repatriated in a Thai government rescue mission from an Indonesian island. He says he was tricked into working on
board for longer than he planned without payment and refused permission to leave whenever he asked to go home.
He broke down repeatedly as he told us his story, the six years of abuse at sea.
[11:50:08] What we weren't expecting is to hear that despite this clear description of being held against his will and forced to work, which can
only be described as slave labor, Samart would return to Thailand to find authorities refusing to register him as a victim of human trafficking.
SAMART SENASOOK, TRAFFICKED FISHERMAN (through translator): I think I am a victim of human trafficking but I don't know why they don't recognize me as
one. If I wasn't a victim, I would have known everything and now this jump from the very beginning.
MOHSIN: We contacted the police officials involved in taking Samart and other fishermen's statements. Two officers told CNN there are many cases
that aren't being recognized as victims of trafficking.
They added, "This doesn't mean it's the end of the investigation and things may change."
But for the time being, Samart and many others like him aren't considered victims.
MOHSIN (voice-over): Activists say, for the victims, recognition of trafficking status is a first step towards justice, which could include
financial compensation for the slavery they've endured. The evidence is circumstantial but prolific enough to be cause for concern.
Out of 73 fishermen repatriated to Thailand between August 2014 and March this year, the government has registered 21 as trafficked.
In April, a highly publicized repatriation brought 68 men back home. The number considered trafficked by the government: just nine. A prominent
anti-trafficking group considers all of them as victims of trafficking.
The Labor Rights Promotion Network has slammed the government for its inaction.
PATIMA TANGPRATYAKOON, THE LABOR RIGHTS PROMOTION NETWORK through translator): The government is paying less attention to the real situation
and more attention to showing reduced numbers of victims.
MOHSIN (voice-over): LRPN alleges the government wants to manipulate the numbers merely for the Trafficking in Persons or TIP report published
annually by the U.S. government.
TANGPRATYAKOON (through translator): Because it is about time for another TIP report, which will rate Thailand on tackling human trafficking, Thai
authorities want to go back up to Tier 2 or Tier 2.5 because last year it was Tier 3.
MOHSIN (voice-over): That's the lowest ranking Thailand's ever been. The Thai government's new numbers will be published in the next TIP report to
be released by the U.S. State Department in June -- Saima Mohsin, CNN, Bangkok, Thailand.
ANDERSON: OK. That is the second in a series of three films. And on Wednesday, you'll hear what the Thai government has to say about this and
witness these sort of unforgettable scenes that has it pledging to do more.
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MOHSIN (voice-over): Nung (ph) drops to his knees. He was among one of the groups of Thai fishermen recently repatriated by the Thai government in
March. He planned to be away only a few months. He's been gone two years, a ghost at sea.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): He told me he was given only a potato to eat and water to survive.
MOHSIN (voice-over): They cling to each other, refusing to let go, after being separated for far too long.
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ANDERSON: Find out what's being done to relegate this modern-day slavery to history. Tomorrow on CONNECT THE WORLD at the time shown on your
ANDERSON (voice-over): Live from Abu Dhabi, this CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson, coming up making a statement in Saudi Arabia. We're
going to show you how women there are using art to push for change.
I will also update you of course on the Nepal (INAUDIBLE) today. Stay with us.
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[11:55:58] ANDERSON (voice-over): Gives you a sense of just what people were going through today in Nepal and the footage there taken during
Tuesday's 7.3 magnitude earthquake in Nepal. It's killed at least 66 people, including 17 in India and at least one in neighboring Tibet. More
than 1,200 people, I'm afraid, are injured. Those numbers, as you can imagine, are likely to go higher. And this comes less than three weeks
after the devastating 7.8 magnitude quake that killed more than 8,000.
You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson. You are towards the end of the show. But before we go, we always promise
you some "Parting Shots" this hour on CONNECT THE WORLD. And tonight from Saudi Arabia, often considered on the issue of women's rights, we want to
show you now how -- we're going to show you some women in the kingdom are using art to express their frustration with the status quo. Have a look.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE). I am from Saudi Arabia and I'm an artist.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): The reason I do art is because it is a top for expression. One of these artworks is called "Ismi Finding (ph)".
This project was developed because there is a social taboo about pronouncing women's name in front of other men and young boys who would
actually bully each other by fighting out the mothers' names.
Eventually this project became a large-scale installation called (INAUDIBLE). It evolved from just women working in a space, writing their
names, pronouncing their names, knowing that these artworks will go around the world and understanding that they were making a statement alongside.
Another participatory project (INAUDIBLE) called "Spend It Together (ph)," which was a collection of doves (INAUDIBLE) donate their documents for
permission to travel (ph). Women (INAUDIBLE) again ordered to travel, they would need permission from male guardians.
The project really addresses the issue of (INAUDIBLE) as a whole but specifically it looks at the idea of movement from point A to point B,
freedom of this kind of movement.
Two hundred (ph) women donated their documents to travel at least on these doves, which have been existed all over the world.
ANDERSON: Stunning. I'm Becky Anderson.
ANDERSON (voice-over): This was CONNECT THE WORLD. (INAUDIBLE) on CNN, the latest on Nepal and the rest of the stories resonating around the world
after this very short break. Don't go away.