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Suspected Gang Member Posts Bail; Mansion Murder Suspect's Girlfriend Says He'll Turn Self In; Mother Shames Daughter on Facebook. Aired 2:30-3p ET

Aired May 21, 2015 - 14:30   ET

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[14:30:06] POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Meantime, police say hundreds of weapons, over 300, were found stashed at the shooting scene. Some of them stuffed in bags of chips, in kitchen stoves, and in toilets. An A.K.-47 was found in a vehicle parked in that parking lot of the restaurant where the shooting occurred. Also, restaurant surveillance video examined by investigators now shows even more information. Also today, one of the rival gangs, the Cossacks, has agreed to cancel this week's annual biker meeting in a nearby town.

Police are still fearful that violent outbreaks are possible from these diehards that may still show up.

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A. MERCER, SHERIFF, PALO PINTO COUNTY, TEXAS: I don't anticipate a fight is going to go on at the rally. A fight is going to stay on where they're eating diner or at a hotel or like it did in Twin Peaks. That's where it's going to break loose.

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HARLOW: Local authorities say they plan still to shut down the road that's leading to the location of the rally. Businesses have been asked to close down as well. Some say they just cannot afford to do that.

And now to another frightening case involving bikers. We are hearing the frantic 911 call made from inside a violent biker swarm. You'll remember this. It happened in 2013 here in New York City. It was all caught on tape. The call was placed by the wife of an SUV driver. Police Say he was pulled out of his car and beaten after he admittedly hit a biker with his vehicle. The audio of those 911 calls was played in court during the ongoing trial right now of two of the 11 people charged in the attack.

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UNIDENTIFIED WIFE OF SUV DRIVER: Hello?

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911 OPERATOR: Tell me what happened. How were you attacked? UNIDENTIFIED WIFE OF SUV DRIVER: They were driving down Westside

highway. A bunch of motorcycles surrounded us, smashing our windows. We pulled off the highway. They pulled us out of our cars and were smashing our windows, like everything. Just hitting us and making -- like threatening to kill us. They're taking a knife to us.

911 OPERATOR: They cut you with a knife or not?

UNIDENTIFIED WIFE OF SUV DRIVER: They cut my husband's face open with a knife.

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HARLOW: Chilling to listen to that. One of the defendants, an undercover New York City police officer. He was off-duty at the time, but he's accused of bashing in the rear window of that SUV.

Coming up next, the manhunt under way as we speak for a suspect connected to that gruesome quadruple murder in the nation's capital. The search now in centering on Brooklyn, New York. What the suspect's girlfriend is now telling police. A live update next.

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[14:37:13] HARLOW: All right. Fast-moving developments in that D.C. mansion murder of four people. Take a look at this picture. Police are looking for this man. 34-year-old Daron Dylon Wint. Sources say authorities in Brooklyn are now talking to a woman who is believed to be Wint's girlfriend. She says that Wint is planning to turn himself into authorities. He's not done so at this point.

Let's bring in CNN's senior Washington correspondent, Joe Johns, who's been tracking this story throughout.

Joe, not only do we know now that the authorities have located his girlfriend and what she has to say, but also we've learned what the suspect's connection to these four victims is.

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Poppy. Authorities seeking to allay concerns in the community that this may have been a random act, saying the target of the manhunt, Daron Dylon Wint, age 34, has a business connection, that he was an employee at the American Iron Works, the building supply company of Savvas Savapoulos, the husband, the father, the CEO who was murdered in this house. Police say they do not know whether Wint was fired or left the company. Police also say they believe Wint is the man seen running in that grainy surveillance video released shortly after the Porsche was found set on fire and abandoned in the Maryland suburbs.

The manhunt is on here on the east coast, Poppy. Listen.

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CATHY LANIER, CHIEF, WASHINGTON, D.C., POLICE DEPARTMENT; Right now you have just about every law enforcement officer across the country that's aware of his open warrant and are looking for him. I think even his family has made pleas for him to turn himself in. I would just reiterate that it's much easier if he just turn himself in.

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JOHNS: So while that manhunt continues, the police chief also said investigators have not ruled out the possibility that other individuals were involved in this crime. So there's still a lot to do -- Poppy?

HARLOW: Still a lot to do, and four victims. It is horrific, unbelievable crime. We'll talk more about it this hour.

Joe, thank you very much.

I do want to talk more about it with retired Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Matthew Fogg.

Thank you for being here. I appreciate it.

MATTHEW FOGG, RETIRED CHIEF DEPUTY, U.S. MARSHALS: Thank you.

HARLOW: Can you walk us through what's happening right now? Because this happened in D.C. Now the focus is on Brooklyn, New York, where the police have just said that they believe they have located his girlfriend and that she says she's going to turn himself into police. What do you do if you're an officer and you hear that? Do you buy it? Do you believe it? Or is he trying to lead them astray?

FOGG: Well, Poppy, I've tracked down many people when it came down to being fugitives. Many times the girlfriends would turn them in. We always say it the beauty that kills the beast. But the bottom line is oftentimes that's the first thing you do. You go to the closest people to these individuals. You list the girlfriend, the parents, somebody close to them. Then you follow up on the records. Follow whoever it is that might know them. You send your leads out. It's many different angles that you can approach this. You also are definitely tapping phone lines, trying to determine whether this guy is talking to anyone, anybody's saying things. It's a lot of different angles that you can go, but you can clearly -- he can be tracked down. With an I.D. now, with all the information they have on this individual, they're looking at his past, things that he frequents, things that he does in a common way. So it's a lot of different angles they can go.

[14:40:47] HARLOW: Let me ask you this. Certainly surprising to me, and I'm wondering what your take is as a professional. The DNA they found to link to this guy came from pizza crust that he allegedly ordered while he was holding these four innocent victims hostage for hours and hours. Orders pizza. That's why they find the DNA?

FOGG: And to be honest with you, that's a good one. That probably has developed over the years, that technology, to get it off a pizza crust. But that's what authorities have said. Again, that's a good lead. If they were able to identify that person's DNA on that pizza crust, that's good police work.

HARLOW: Let me ask you this. This is also -- look, this suspect, 34- year-old Daron Wint has an extensive rap sheet, but it doesn't include murder. Our team was talking about this. Is this someone who you believe could and would carry something out like this alone? Or do you expect there's a second person?

FOGG: Well, you know, someone could carry it out alone. Then again, there could be a second person. But when I looked at his rap sheet and thought about that, I said, normally you don't have someone that's going to go to the level of murder. Now, when we've had -- for example, I worked on a case, a very prominent doctor killed here, a burglary suspect that went in the home and ended up killing the doctor. The doctor confronted him. That's why the doctor was killed. This guy wasn't known to be a murder. So most of the people -- this guy seemed like the person -- Wint, he seemed like he had a motive. It would be interesting to see if there's something that comes out in the past with this guy and this family to say that for some reason he had a motive to want to actually kill these people.

HARLOW: Well, we do know he did at one point work for the company that the father is the CEO of. We don't know if he was currently employed or what the connection could be.

FOGG: That's right.

HARLOW: We'll keep tracking it.

Matthew Fogg, thanks. We appreciate it.

FOGG: Thank you.

HARLOW: Coming up next, it is the video that has gone viral. What a mother decided to do after discovering her 13-year-old daughter's secret Facebook account, and racy photos along with it. We'll talk to her live next.

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[14:7:50] She chastised her daughter, posted the shaming daughter online, on her daughter's Facebook page. Take a look.

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VAL STARKS, MOTHER CHASTISES DAUGHTER ON FACEBOOK: Are you 19?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: No.

STARKS: No, you're 13, right?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: Yeah.

STARKS: And are you a freak?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: No.

STARKS: Does your Facebook page say you're a freak?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: Yeah. STARKS: And do you even know anything about being a freak?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: No.

STARKS: So you need to speak up so the people can hear you.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: No.

STARKS: We have established in the last few seconds that you're not a freak, that you don't sit at home with a bra on, you don't wear makeup, you don't take pictures like that. You don't have no lace panties. You barely know how to wipe your ass good, don't you? Right? Am I talking?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: Yeah.

STARKS: You barely know how to wipe your ass good, but you're a freak, right? But you got friends that's grown ass men on your Facebook page though, right? So tell them that you're 13, you're not a freak, and you don't know how to wipe your ass good. I'm sorry. The camera can't hear you.

Don't cry now. You ain't crying when you was posting pictures on Facebook, was you? In a bra or some little girl in some lace panties that you know you don't own. You still wear panties that say Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. But you going to go on Facebook and find a picture that says you a freak and you wearing panties that's lace and all that. That's what 13-year-olds do, right? You still have a bedtime. You still watch Disney Channel. Tell them. Tell them you still watch Disney Channel.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: I still watch Disney Channel.

STARKS: And you what? And you don't wipe your butt good, right? Tell them. Tell them.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: I just said.

STARKS: Say it again.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: I still watch Disney Channel, and I don't wipe my butt good.

STARKS: Yeah, and you're not 19.

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HARLOW: Well, this video has been viewed more than 11 times. Some parents cheering for the mother's tough-love approach. Others saying the public shaming went way too far.

Let's talk about it with the mother. Val Starks joins me now.

Thanks for being here.

STARKS: You're welcome. Thank you for having me. [14:50:02] HARLOW: Let me preface this with I'm not a mom yet,

right. So I don't know how to parent yet. But I watched that. It's tough to watch. And it's tough to raise children. So let's talk about why you did this. What was your goal?

STARKS: My goal was basically to bring awareness for nothing more than to bring awareness to other parents that may have a teenage daughter that is posting things on Facebook and they have no clue about it. Just to let them know how serious and dangerous it can be on social media to have our children out there, and I had absolutely no clue that she even had a Facebook page. For me, it was so disturbing to know my child would go to that extreme to get that kind of attention, and it was completely negative. I just wanted other parents to be aware of how serious the internet predators really are. These are our children. We need to pay more attention, myself included.

HARLOW: So some critics have said, you know, we do need to pay more attention. You should have known she had an account. And it's incumbent upon you as a parent to know that and why publicly shame her in this way as a result? What do you say to them?

STARKS: I say to them that this is my child, and I did what I see fit. I did what I felt needed to be done because this wasn't the first discussion about Facebook. This wasn't the second or the third or the fourth but the fifth time she had a phone taken away. She hadn't had a phone in about a year and a half. She doesn't have internet access at home. She doesn't own a computer. She made her own page at one of her friend's house under completely different name, and I had no clue. And she blocked me, so it wasn't something so easy for just someone to know.

HARLOW: Every time her name is Googled, in this day and age, right, this is going to come up. I wonder if you worry about the long-term effects.

STARKS: I do worry about the long-term effects after it's been a few days. I do worry about that. But I also worry about the long-term effects that could have been -- had my child been coerced into meeting someone at a park, a grown man that she might have thought was only 13 years old and was 35 or 40 and did bodily harm to her and put my child in a grave and the coroner coming to my home and telling me I had to identify my child's body. That's what I worry about.

HARLOW: I want our viewers to know a little bit about your past. Tell me about your past and how that influenced your decision to punish your daughter in this way.

STARKS: Because, like I said, I'm not the perfect mom. I never claimed to be. I don't have the book on how to be a perfect mom. I did what I saw fit, needed to be done because of how I grew up and the things that I went through. I didn't want my child to repeat the same mistakes I made. I was incarcerated. I have a felony. I've made mistakes. I've done things wrong. I'm not perfect and have never claimed to be, but I wanted my child to understand this is not something I will even for a moment tolerate. HARLOW: And did your parents, your mother or your father, hold you

accountable in any way like you did to your daughter? Are you saying, I needed that when I was younger?

STARKS: I'm saying that I needed that when I was younger, absolutely. And my mother, she was really stern, really strict woman, and really played no games with me. Back then growing up, I didn't have Facebook or social media or anything like that. So my message was really for the young teen girls who think that this is cute, because my daughter's not the first, and she's not going to be the last to do something like she's done.

HARLOW: Val Starks, thanks very much. I appreciate you coming on the program, talking to us about it.

We want to hear from all of you. Tweet me, @PoppyHarlowCNN. Let me know what you think.

Val, thank you.

STARKS: Thank you.

HARLOW: Still ahead, breaking news in the fight against ISIS, taking control of a critical and ancient Syrian city. What President Obama is now saying about the U.S.-led battle on terror.

Also, a very controversial hunt. A Texas man targeting one of the most endangered species on the planet, the black rhino. But you might be surprised by the mixed reaction this story is getting. We'll talk about it next.

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[14:59:12] HARLOW: Studying to become a doctor is tough enough work, but imagine doing it without the ability to hear.

CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta now with the "Human Factor."

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dr. Philip Zazove always knew he wanted to follow in his parents' footsteps by becoming a doctor, despite his hearing loss.

DR. PHILIP ZAZOVE, DEAF DOCTOR LISTENS TO PATIENTS: When I was about four, they told my parents that I'd be lucky be able to be a janitor.

GUPTA: Dr. Zazove's parents pushed back, and they placed him in public school, where few special accommodations were given to deaf students.

ZAZOVE: We are talking about 1955. The teacher would say, no, wait, I have a deaf kid in my class. My parents would have to insist.

GUPTA: Bullying became another obstacle.

ZAZOVE: Some kids were difficult.

GUPTA: But he persevered and went on to medical school.