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U.S. Military Lab Ships Live Anthrax Samples; FBI Asks Local Police for Help Fighting ISIS; Iraqi Forces Locked in Battle for Key Oil Refinery; More Rain Targeting Flood-Ravaged Texas; Poll: Leading GOP Campaigns in Five-Way Tie. Aired 6-6:30a ET

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: The U.S. military mistakenly shipped live anthrax samples to research labs.

[05:58:19] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shipments were made to nine states.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: This is one of the deadliest pathogens in existence. How did this happen?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Individuals that are sympathetic and radicalizing.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: The growing threat posed by ISIS sympathizers right here inside the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Calling publicly for attacks in the west.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, no!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you prepared to make a river rescue of some sort?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, ma'am.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.

RICK SANTORUM (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am running for president of the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Really trying to appeal to blue-collar voters.

JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Why do you think that being the runner-up four years ago doesn't make you the frontrunner this time?

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning and welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Thursday, May 28, 6 a.m. in the east.

Live anthrax was shipped via commercial carrier to nine states and a military base in South Korea. Four people in the U.S. and nearly two dozen at the Osan U.S. Air Base are now getting emergency medical treatment for possible exposure. And all of it came from the Defense Department.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So officials scrambling to see if any other live samples were accidentally shipped. How could this happen with these supposed safeguards in place?

CNN's Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr, is live this morning with more. Good morning, Barbara.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. At Osan Air Base in South Korea, in nine states across the country questions about how did this happen. The Pentagon taking days to fully reveal any of the details.

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STARR (voice-over): This morning fear that up to 22 Air Force personnel may have been exposed to anthrax at an air base in South Korea. An investigation now under way as officials at Osan Air Base say an Army lab in Utah inadvertently shipped live anthrax samples to them and facilities in nine states over the past few days.

Twenty-two people now being monitored in South Korea join four workers in the U.S. who have received preventive post-exposure treatment. A lab in Maryland was the first to report receiving the live bacteria last Friday after handling the samples. The question now: how could this have happened?

COL. RONALD FIZER, U.S. ARMY DUGWAY PROVING GROUND: It's a great question. And that's exactly why we brought in the Centers for Disease Control. And their investigators.

STARR: The Centers for Disease Control now investigating as officials reveal samples were shipped under less rigorous conditions since it was believed the bacteria was dead. NBC News reporting Fed Ex transported the samples. Fed Ex tells CNN they're working with officials to gather information.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No known risk to the general public, and there's no suspected or confirmed cases of anthrax infection.

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STARR: Now, this comes less than a year after a similar mishap at the Centers for Disease Control. They shipped what they thought was dead agent so several locations, and it was not. It was live anthrax -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: All right. They have got to figure that one out. Barbara, thanks so much for that update. We so have some breaking news this morning. The New York City

Police Department and other law enforcement agencies across the country ramping up surveillance on suspected ISIS sympathizers in the U.S.

CNN's justice reporter, Evan Perez, is here with all these developing details. What do we know, Evan?

EVAN PEREZ, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

There are hundreds of ISIS -- suspected ISIS supporters in America. And the FBI says it can't keep an eye on all of them. Now police departments, including here in New York, are stepping in to increase their surveillance of people who are potential ISIS terrorists.

Law enforcement officials tell CNN the FBI surveillance squads are tapped out. It's not enough for them to track people who are using social media and talking to ISIS members overseas. The fear is that those people could be plotting an attack here. We asked the FBI director, James Comey, about this yesterday.

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JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: It is an incredibly difficult task that we are enlisting all of our state and local and federal partners in. And we're working on it every single day. But I can't stand here with any high confidence when I confront a world that's increasingly dark to me and tell you that I've got it all covered.

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PEREZ: Now, the change in strategy is part of the fallout from the foiled terrorist attack a few weeks ago in Garland, Texas. Two gunmen inspired by ISIS tried to attack a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest.

Now, they were killed by police, but law enforcement -- law enforcement officials tell me that one of the gunmen, Elton Simpson, was under FBI surveillance. But it wasn't 24/7. FBI agents lost track of him for a few days. But the FBI had no idea that he was on his way to Texas to carry out his attack, Chris.

CUOMO: And then, Evan, they got really close on the timing. They wound up alerting local authorities but not in time. So now we see this change. Is this going to be what bridges the gap?

Let's bring in Julia Kayyem, a CNN national security analyst who worked in the Department of Homeland Security. Let's give the plus/minus on this. Why is this good news?

JULIA KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, because the FBI is acknowledging what it has sort of what's obvious in this world in the post-9/11 world and what ISIS looks like, which is membership in ISIS now is anyone who says that they're a member. It's too many people. So they need to work with local and state officials to figure out what's going on.

The bad news is, of course, there's too many people. And this notion of membership in terrorist organizations, a notion that we used to think of being quite formal, and we could figure out who these guys are now is like just a movement. And it's very hard to track a movement. And every person that's online figuring out whether they want to be a member of ISIS or not. So it's good news/bad news at this stage.

CUOMO: And the proof of the bad news is what we saw in Garland, Texas, where you had the FBI surveilling a certain guy. They got information. They got it to local authorities but not quickly enough. And you wound up having those two fools try to do something terrible, and they got stopped. But we were probably lucky there. So does that prove that this isn't the fix?

KAYYEM: I don't think so. I mean, Garland is such a weird example in so many ways, because it was sort of a bulls-eye. And in fact, I sort of look at Garland as bad news. I mean, how could we not have seen this coming, given that this organization was sort of, you know, say -- we all knew that the Garland event was going to be a target.

And so the fact that they couldn't stop it even beforehand, I think just suggests how limited the resources are for preventing attacks like this.

So we don't normally get instances like Garland. Most instances are, you know, sort of random day and a potential ISIS member will attack. So we've got to engage local and state officials, community members and then, of course, communities of interest who might see radicalization in their own communities. That's the only way that you're really going to be able to target this. The government resources are limited and maybe not the most effective for the kind of recruitment that ISIS is doing.

[06:05:21] CUOMO: Two other quick takes on security strategies. First, something else we saw in Garland, Texas. Allowing not to show the picture or image of Muhammad, the media doesn't do it. We don't encourage it here. Is that caving in or is that being cautious?

KAYYEM: No, I think -- I don't think it's either. I mean, in some ways, Chris, I just think it's just sort of respect for any religion in the same way that you don't sort of just randomly show pictures of desecrations of Jesus Christ. I think it's just a responsible journalism. And to do otherwise, I think, is just playing into the hands of -- I don't want to say extremists on the other side, but those who sort of hate Islam or are very afraid of Islam and want to sort of generate a lot of unease.

So I sort of agree with CNN in this regard. There's just no point. It's just not news.

CUOMO: OK. And then we get to the biggest issue on the table, which is at the same time that you had the head of the FBI saying, "There are too many people. I need help. I've got to go to local law enforcement." You've got the reconsideration of the NSA laws, and you're going to take away a tool that many in your line of work say they really need, which is bulk collection of data.

Is this the right time to balance privacy and the ability to probe the way they're planning to do it?

KAYYEM: No. And this is no way to figure out what sort of resources are available to the FBI after Sunday when it expires.

Look, the bulk issue, we're going to have to come to a compromise. There's going to have to be better oversight of it. I think that the Obama administration has come to that conclusion.

But the thing people have to remember is that there's other provisions that are going to expire that are less controversial than the bulk provision, including the basic fact that we want our FBI agents to be able to survey phone lines and phone numbers of a specific terrorist.

The law's written in a way that the FBI has to get new surveillance rules for each different phone number. We want it to be -- the FBI can follow the guy, any phone number he uses. There are other parts of the provision getting lost in the news story that we have definitely got to expand or continue on past Sunday. So there has to be a resolution. Otherwise, it's just no way to run national security.

CUOMO: So don't get caught up just in bulk collection of data when there's so much else in the Patriot Act that needs to be reassessed and maybe reactivated.

All right. Juliette Kayyem, thank you very much. Appreciate the insight -- Mick.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Chris. Now to the battle to retake parts of Iraq seized by ISIS. Iraqi forces not only fighting to retake Ramadi; they are also locked in an intense battle for a key oil refinery, which has the potential to turn into an environmental catastrophe.

CNN international correspondent was granted rare access to the front lines in Baiji, and he joins us now live -- Nick.

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Baiji is so vital for the attack potentially in the future against Mosul that's nearby. But also in cutting off a supply route.

The first target that Iraq mentioned would be on its list when trying to clean out Anbar, where Ramadi is. And we got access ourselves to Iraqi special forces on the front line there.

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WALSH (voice-over): This is just a taste of how apocalyptic it could get. At the battle of Baiji, an oil refinery already choking on smoke. Part of this huge complex is still held by ISIS. Shia fighters filmed this Tuesday. The months'-long fight here

slowed by fears of the ecological chaos ISIS could wreak if they scorch and burn here as they retreat.

Iraqi special forces took us to their front line, defending the ruins of a house that a coalition airstrike pushed ISIS out of. They are from the elite Golden Division. Their Ramadi colleagues part of the troops the U.S. said lacked the will to fight.

(on camera): That line of buildings over there is ISIS's closest position. And during a thick sandstorm here they used the cover of it to advance within 20 meters of here. When the sandstorm subsided, suddenly a fire fight began.

(voice-over): We don't know why they start shooting what they may have seen. ISIS are few in number here, they say, but willing to die and have a sniper nearby.

Or maybe they more want to show us and even Washington they very much do want to fight. "It's not logical and wrong," he says, of the American criticism, "because anywhere in Ramadi, Mosul or Baiji, anywhere duty calls, we fight.

[06:10:12] "Their gunfire grows. And usually, it's mortars that ISIS fire back. So we pull out."

More ammunition, some American, is arriving at their base, but the fight will be a slow encirclement we're told. "The reason we want to surround them," he says, "is because we must clean up the area properly with specialist engineers, because it has fuel but also booby-traps."

Cleaning here of ISIS, a vital part of Baghdad's new plan for Ramadi but a slow grind, mindful that Iraq needs something to live off if ISIS ever leaves.

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WALSH: Now, when we were there, we had reports of six Iraqi police being killed by simply taking the wrong road towards ISIS-held territory. There I saw myself a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) being taken off the back of an ambulance. It's unclear the fate of the Iraqi soldier there. It's clearly an active front line, but there are two issues really facing all operations now in Iraq.

The first is how fast do they move? In Baiji they have a key issue about trying to stop the nihilistic people of ISIS causing an ecological disaster in their wake.

Secondly, those Iraqi forces trained, they say, adequately with the munition they need, with the people they need to do the job, but they also have Shia fighters alongside of them. That complicated it significantly more around Ramadi, where all those groups have to be on the same page to launch a successful offensive against groups like ISIS, so disciplined, so well-equipped and day by day better dug into Ramadi, certainly -- Alisyn. CAMEROTA: Nick, just so important for us to be able to see

what's going on, on the ground there. Thank you for your reporting.

Well, back here at home, flood-ravaged Texas could be in for more rain this weekend. With the Colorado and the Brazos River still rising, officials urging everyone who lives anywhere near them to evacuate now. Rescue crews still searching for the missing.

Let's go to hard-hit Wimberley, Texas, with CNN's meteorologist, Jennifer Gray. Tell us what the scene is this morning.

JENNIFER GRAY, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, Alisyn, we are standing in front of the Blanco River. And the sound of the water just a scary reminder of what happened here over the weekend.

You see these trees behind me. They were completely submerged in water during the worst part of the flood. Of course, searchers will be out once again today still searching for those nine missing as the stories are still coming out of what happened during the flood.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, no!

GRAY (voice-over): New dramatic video revealing the power of the deadly flash floods in Texas. The water from the Blanco River, swelled by the storms on Saturday, fills the entire ground floor of this vacation home in seconds. Authorities recovering the body of a child near its banks Wednesday as the death toll rises across Texas and Oklahoma.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's very thick and wooded in some parts making the search much more difficult.

GRAY: Just south of Houston, the body of 73-year-old Alice Tovar found by her brother-in-law after she was separated from her car swept away by the ravaging flood waters.

RICKY AGUILAR, SHERIFF: I'm glad we found her. Didn't have to leave her out there. It's a relief.

GRAY: This as the frantic search for the missing continues. But the severe weather danger isn't over. A tornado hit an oil rig in northwestern Texas Wednesday, resulting in several serious injuries.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take the heed and the warning. Get out now.

GRAY: Residents just south of Houston now leaving on a voluntary evacuation as flash flood watches continue to span central and northern Texas up through Kansas until Sunday.

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GRAY: And the rivers all across this region are filled to capacity. Some of them still overflowing their banks. And so the last thing you want to hear is more rain.

Of course, more rain is in the forecast, though. This region expected to get about an inch or less. Areas to our north, though, could possibly get higher amounts.

And then we always know, Chris, that you could get caught in one of those isolated downpours where we could see isolated amounts even higher. So people really need to be on guard this weekend and pay attention; know if those flood warnings pop up, seek higher ground immediately, Chris.

CUOMO: All right. And we will stay on it. Thank you, Jennifer.

We have breaking news this morning. A leader of the North African terror group al Shabaab has reportedly died in Somalia. He was wanted by the U.S. in connection with United States terror attacks, including the 1998 embassy bombings. Now, according to an al-Shabaab audio message, Sheik Hassan Turki died Wednesday. He was believed to be in his 70s and had transitioned from being a leading military figure into a spiritual figurehead after suffering a sickness.

PEREIRA: Russian President Vladimir Putin says the emerging FIFA scandal will have no impact on his country's plan to host the 2018 World Cup, despite accusations that FIFA officials were paid off to select certain host countries. U.S. officials say the investigation has only just begun. Fourteen people stand accused of manipulating decades of major soccer decisions worldwide for millions of dollars in return. Al eyes are on this man, FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who is not facing charges at this time but is set for re-election perhaps tomorrow.

[06:15:23] CAMEROTA: We will hear more about this story in the coming days I'm quite certain.

CUOMO: His big defense right now is he says I welcome this. We started this investigation. But Evan Perez gave you guys a good hint yesterday that the person they put in charge, a former federal prosecutor, they didn't like what he found. So there's going to be a thread of that story that continues.

CAMEROTA: We'll follow that. Meanwhile, there's a new poll to tell you about of presidential hopefuls. And it will surprise you. Wait until you see who is tied with whom.

CUOMO: And a provocative question, is the flooding in Texas and record rainfall there just Mother Nature, or are we to blame? Could it be climate change? We test, you decide ahead.

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SANTORUM: If you look at what I had to do when I left the race, I have seven kids. I had to go to work. I had to provide food for my family. And I wasn't in front of your TV very often over the last three years. I just couldn't be.

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[06:20:18] CAMEROTA: Well, there you go. That was Rick Santorum, moments after getting into the race, telling CNN why his poll numbers are underwhelming at the moment. But let's look at this new Quinnipiac poll.

This shows Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, Marco Rubio and Scott Walker all tied. Here to weigh in on this, CNN political analyst and editor in chief of "The Daily Beast," John Avlon; and CNN political commentator, Republican consultant and Sirius XM host Margaret Hoover.

Hi, guys. Great to see you.

MARGARET HOOVER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

Let's pull up that Quinnipiac poll again. Because Margaret, it's interesting that Jeb Bush, the presumptive leader for a long time, is tied with somebody like Ben Carson, who's new to politics.

HOOVER: Well, what this shows is who has been front and center on Republican primary voters' minds -- hearts and minds in the last six months. Ben Carson wrote a book. He's been doing the book tour. He's been going to all the early states. Jeb Bush has name recognition. Mike Huckabee has been on FOX News and in front of all those conservative voters. Marco Rubio is a -- really a conservative star on the Republican side. And so is Scott Walker, by the way, who had three elections in four years and has been actually getting a lot of support from the national Republican donor base in order to beat off the unions.

So these are all people who are front and center of the conservative primary.

CUOMO: You see this? Margaret says front and center, is that another way of saying this is an awareness poll more than a "whom do you want to vote for" poll?

JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: All polls at this stage, I think it's fair to say, are awareness polls. But what's significant isn't just the depth of the fragmentation on the Republican side and the people you don't see in this poll, like Ted Cruz, who certainly have awareness benefits.

But how low that threshold is and how the people actually who have a real built-in advantage, like a Jeb Bush from a name I.D., haven't really been able to outpace, you know, relatively no-name candidates.

The other big takeaway from this poll is that -- is that versus Hillary Clinton, which is the ultimate general election gut check, the people who are closest to her within striking distance are Rubio and Rand Paul. That's significant to me, because that's a whole different consideration set. That's about electability in a general. CAMEROTA: Just to remind people at home who is actually in the

race, let's do that right now. Look at the candidates who have thus far thrown their hats in the ring.

So as of yesterday, it was Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina. This is the GOP side. Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz.

Now, here's who's coming up. George Pataki today. He will be announcing in New Hampshire. Lindsey Graham expected on June 1 in South Carolina. And then Rick Perry is expected June 4 in Texas. Will any of these sort of mix it up and change the equation?

HOOVER: I think each of them contributes something significant to the race. So I think Lindsey Graham is going to come in and just be all foreign policy all the time in a way to counteract what he sees as Rand Paul's contribution or what he disagrees with so vehemently about what Rand Paul stands for in terms of his foreign policy stance on the Republican side.

George Pataki, I think is going to add a different version of Republican to the dynamic, which frankly is needed on the Republican side. In so many ways you have Republicans all saying the same thing when it comes to fiscal policy and social policy. It will be great to have a pro-choice same-sex marriage supporter in the race just for diversity's sake if for no other reason.

CUOMO: Do you have like two different flavors of inadequate going on here? On the Republican side, you've got like 100 people. We really should put up a list who isn't in the race, you know. It would probably be shorter. And then on the Democrat side, you really have them putting all their chips on Hillary. You know, it's great to hear Bernie Sanders out there making the case for what he thinks is important. You're starting to get a little bit of other voices there maybe. But it's like you have a really big difference on each side of strategies.

AVLON: It is a stunningly contrast because also the parties have reversed roles. Traditionally, Republicans all lined up behind conventional front runner and there are one or two other dark-horse candidates to provide alternative.

And the Democrats have this wide-open sort of field, because it's going to go to the hot hand. Totally reverse, you know, character transplant for the two parties in this race. And there are deep deficiencies with both choices. A lack of choice on one, a multiplicity of choice among kind of uninspired candidates on the other.

HOOVER: But the reason for that is that Democrats have been in power for the last eight years. Democrats want to hold onto power. They're picking their safest bet to do that. Republicans want to win, and so they want to examine everybody thoroughly to figure out who is the best person to take back the White House.

CAMEROTA: Let's talk about Carly Fiorina. She was in South Carolina yesterday, and she is comparing herself -- I mean, she's sort of putting it out to voters that, you know, "I'm the other woman in the race. You don't have to choose Hillary Clinton if that's what you're voting on." So supporters surrounded her yesterday.

And they suggested that she was following Mrs. Clinton around, because Hillary Clinton was also in South Carolina. And Carly Fiorina got a little testy about that. So here's her response.

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CARLY FIORINA (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I planned this trip many, many, many weeks ago. So perhaps she's following me. I have never been following Mrs. Clinton.

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CAMEROTA: Perhaps she's following me.

AVLON: Yes, that's weird.

HOOVER: The candidates are going to crisscross paths across the country all the time. She very likely had her trip to South Carolina already planned. Maybe they didn't realize.

[06:25:07] And then when the Greenville paper said that Hillary Clinton's going to be at this place, she clearly went in front of that hotel to do a press conference.

And by the way, how smart. There she is taking questions that Hillary Clinton won't take. That is Carly -- if that is Carly Fiorina's only contribution to this race, that she's going to take questions and put a spotlight on the questions that Hillary Clinton is not answering. Why did you support the Russian reset? Why did you call Assad a positive reformer? Why won't you talk about human rights when you're in China? You have a record as secretary of state to defend. Why aren't you talking about it?

AVLON: OK. So...

HOOVER: That is a contribution.

AVLON: So that is a contribution to take questions and those are all great points my bride just made.

But here's the thing: what Carly Fiorina really is doing with her campaign, as she e-mailed reporters, is she is trying to criticize Hillary Clinton and in sort of agreed-upon role with the RNC, because the men in the race are reluctant to do so for fear of being called sexist. So what you have is somebody following Hillary Clinton around in this case, and it is a trolling strategy.

HOOVER: That's not true.

AVLON: Let's be real. It is a trolling strategy.

CUOMO: You're sexist. You're sexist for saying that. CAMEROTA: Is this a real sort of agreement that men are not

going to go after Hillary Clinton?

AVLON: I think there's deep discomfort, because it's very obvious to see how that could backfire. But Carly Fiorina's role as the only woman in the race so far has been the self-appointed Hillary hitter. That has been the role. And following her around has a creepy quality. But the whole communications strategy can't simply be sort of attack Hillary, attack Hillary on behalf of RNC.

CUOMO: The other guys have attacked Hillary also.

AVLON: But not with a -- not with a single minded sense of purpose designed to get attention.

HOOVER: Let's be very clear: She knows full well that that's her contribution.

AVLON: Yes, that's what I just said.

HOOVER: She knows that the white guys in the race shouldn't be attacking her, because they're going to be called sexist. And she can. By the way, you're saying it's as though it's a pejorative. That is a positive contribution to America.

CUOMO: Why only the white guys? Ben Carson, he's allowed to attack Hillary and the white guys aren't?

HOOVER: I'm sorry.

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CAMEROTA: Wow. OK. The Hoovalon's on fire. Margaret, John, take care.

CUOMO: Take care. I just think it's interesting the one thing we didn't discuss today which we'll wind up discussing more and more is money. At the end of the day, this is going to be about money, who stays in the race.

HOOVER: Actually, I totally disagree. Jeb Bush is going to have more money, and he's going to win (ph).

CUOMO: That's because you're working for a PAC. That's why you disagree.

HOOVER: No, no, what four states is Jeb Bush going to win in the first four?

CAMEROTA: I don't know, which?

CUOMO: He's not even in the race yet.

HOOVER: Zero and he's going to have more money than everyone else.

Follow the money. Cuomo's right.

CAMEROTA: That will be our future. I smell a future segment.

Meanwhile, back to the story that we are following and it's developing. There is epic flooding in the state of Texas. Homes and freeways are submerged, and people are still missing. We'll tell you the latest.

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