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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Next hour of your NEW DAY starts right now.
PAUL: Breaking overnight -- a 22-year-old from Wichita State, killed in an ISIS suicide bombing. The student, a security volunteer, outside of a mosque in Saudi Arabia. This morning, his friends are calling him a hero.
BLACKWELL: Plus, a flood disaster in Texas. More than 20 have died. Homes destroyed, roads flooded and more rain is on the way.
PAUL: And you know we've been on top of this story for weeks. A reunion between a mom and daughter. The mom had believed the daughter died more than 30 years ago. Well, now, newly obtained files raise new questions about that mom's story.
It is 7:00. You have made it to Saturday. Take a nice deep breath. We're all here with you. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Always good to be with you this morning.
Developing this morning, a hero and a true friend who gave his own life to save hundreds of people from an ISIS suicide bomber. That's how friends and family are remembering this man, 22-year-old Abduljalil al-Arbash. He was a student at Wichita State University. Now, he was killed according to some reports when he tried to stop a bomber from getting inside a packed mosque in Saudi Arabia.
CNN's Nick Valencia is coverage this for us.
Nick, tell us what happened here?
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Victor.
This is the second attack on a Shia mosque in as many weeks, that ISIS has claimed responsibility for. The latest to happen at Friday around noon, when according to reports, a man came dressed as a female as a cover-up, because of a recent attack on a mosque, security was on heightened alert.
Security guards saw him, spotted him, chased him away. He eventually blew him up killing himself and three others. Now, among those dead 22-year-old Abduljalil al-Arbash, whose family said -- you're looking at that young man right there. His family says he helped stop the attack. He was and undergrad student at the Wichita State University studying electrical engineering. His family talked about his character and his legacy at a memorial.
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NAIM BALLOUT, PRESIDENT, AHLUL BAYT ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION: He's moved to Saudi Arabia was a bravery. Because of bravery and heroism, he saved a lot of people.
MUSTAFA ABUSAEED, FRIEND: He's like a brother, more than a brother for everybody. If you can see him right now, you're going to see a smile on his face.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VALENCIA: Gosh, adding to the sadness of this story, his family says that he was there, in Saudi Arabia, to get married -- Victor, Christi.
PAUL: All righty. Hey, Nick. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
VALENCIA: You bet.
PAUL: Let's talk about lawmakers and the fact that they are scrambling in Washington to make a deal as the clock ticks down, to the agency's massive data collection program.
The Obama administration, we know, is warning of a critical gap in national security coverage. Not everyone, though, on Capitol Hill is sharing this view.
Sunlen Serfaty is following the story from Washington.
Good morning, Sunlen.
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Christi.
Well, it's now about 40 hours before Sunday's midnight deadline and still there's no sign of resolution.
The White House has been ratcheting up their language, making a big push going into this weekend, wondering of what will happen if Congress allows these surveillance programs to expire.
President Obama said it would be irresponsible and reckless for what he says are essential tools that would need to be given up if these provisions expire. And he called in the Oval Office for the Senate to take up and pass the House bill to get this done.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't want us to be in a situation, in which, for a certain period of time, those authority goes away, and suddenly, we're dark, and heaven forbid, we've got a problem where we could have prevented a terrorist attack or apprehended someone, who is engaged in dangerous activity, but we didn't do so, simply because of inaction in the Senate.
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SERFATY: And the White House believes that the House passed reform bill is what they say is the only viable option going forward. And President Obama there without mentioning any by name, called out a few senators for as he described it, standing in the way of this getting done. That was a not so subtle thought at Senator Rand Paul who believes these surveillance programs are unconstitutional and have pledged to try to block this bill on Sunday.
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SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: I think it's a fight worth having. I have some detractors who say we shouldn't be having this fight, but we'll have this fight again. They aren't really happy that I made them work on their vacation weekend last week, and I make them come back on Sunday and still object to this thing passing.
[07:05:01] I may not win the battle, but at the very least, I want to draw attention.
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SERFATY: Senate has been called back early from recess and they'll start working on this at 4:00 p.m. on Sunday, in a rare weekend Sunday session. But the way forward is just not clear. A spokesperson says the Senate could pass some version of an NSA bill. But Christi, it's unclear what exactly that investigation will be -- Christi.
PAUL: All right. Sunlen Serfaty, we appreciate it. Thank you.
BLACKWELL: Dennis Hastert, the former speaker of the House, who was just indicted by a federal grand jury, has been accused of paying a student to keep quiet about alleged sexual abuse. That's the reporting, but that's not specifically in this indictment, we should point out.
PAUL: We should point out, yes.
Sources with details of the indictment, though, did tell CNN that the allegations involved an underage male and that it was something that happened when Hastert was a teacher and wrestling coach back in Illinois beginning in 1965.
CNN justice correspondent Pam Brown has the latest this morning for us.
Good morning, Pam.
PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Victor and Christi, first came the shocking allegations from the Justice Department, that Dennis Hastert had lied to the FBI about money he was withdrawing for a cover-up. And now, we're learning from sources alleged sexual misconduct involving an underage student was the reason behind the hush money.
BROWN (voice-over): Federal sources tell CNN Dennis Hastert, the longest serving Republican U.S. House speaker was paying hush money to a student at the Illinois high school where he once taught. More than $1 million for the former student to keep allegations Hastert had sexually abused him quiet.
Hastert has not commented publicly, but he abruptly resigned from this Washington, D.C. lobbying firm, as well as from a Chicago derivatives firm. The indictment does not discuss sexual abuse. Instead, it focuses on how the 73-year-old former wrestling coach moved the money he allegedly was paying to former students. Prosecutors saying he agreed to pay an unnamed individual, quote, "$3.5 million to cover up his past misconduct."
According to court records, the investigation started two years ago, when the FBI started investigating mystery transactions made by Hastert. Bank withdrawals of more than $950,000. The FBI alleges several of the withdrawals were less than $10,000, so he could evade IRS detection. Prosecutors say when the FBI asked Hastert about the pattern of large withdrawals, he said he was keeping the cash for himself.
BROWN: And we're told by sources that federal authorities were looking at whether to bring extortion charges on this case and concluded it wasn't something they wanted to pursue.
Hastert has not returned our calls for a comment, but a friend of his who recently spoke to him says that he perceives himself as the one being wrong -- Victor and Christi. PAUL: All righty. Pamela, thank you so much.
Now, also this morning, I want to make clear, "The L.A. Times" who first revealed this sexual misconduct aspect of this case, has reported there could be a second person alleging abuse. The paper's reporter told CNN, quote, "a top official" who is very reliable told 'The Times' that there is another individual who was allegedly sexually assaulted by Hastert. This alleged second victim according to 'The Times' was not being paid by Hastert.
BLACKWELL: All right. Let's bring in CNN law enforcement analyst and former FBI assistant director Tom Fuentes.
Tom, I wondered, you know, when the indictment came out this week, there were little hints and doorways and pathways without actually saying what the former speaker was attempting to cover up. Is that something, when writing these indictments and going into this element of the investigation, that the federal government is careful not to do?
TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: I don't think so, Victor. I think that it just wasn't relevant to the charges being brought. You know, the banks report suspicious transactions in cash. They're required to report it to the Department of Treasury Financial Enforcement Network which includes the FBI, DEA, Customs, IRS, and other agencies, because that much -- that many transactions and that amount of money in cash is suspicious.
If it's more than $10,000, they're required to report it. If it's less than $10,000 but numerous, they can report it if it's suspicious, and that's what happened. They reported it because of his position as number two to the president of the United States all these years, you know, they looked into it further, and when the FBI questioned him in an official investigation, the purpose of these transactions, he lied to them.
And that's the essence of the indictment, lying to the FBI, during an official investigation, when you don't even have to talk to the FBI. He could have just said, you know, I don't want to talk. And that would have been the end of it.
But if you talk to the FBI, during an official investigation, it has to be the truth. And that's what tripped him up in this case, apparently, is that the excuse or the reason that he gave for these many transactions totaling almost $1 million in cash turned out to not be true when they investigated what he did with the money.
[07:10:07] BLACKWELL: So let's explore this middle ground here, between not talking to these FBI agents and according to the indictment, lying about what he was doing with the money and why he was taking it out. If the former speaker had said that, you know, taking this indictment and saying that these allegations are true, although he still has his day in court, if he chooses to go that far. That he was paying someone to hide these allegations of sexual abuse.
If he'd said that to the FBI, what then? FUENTES: If he had told the FBI the truth, he probably -- this
probably wouldn't get this far. And if he had written checks to the person he was paying, they basically had, apparently a personal contractual agreement for $3.5 million total in payments. So, he was about a third of the way through in payments.
Had he written a check, it wouldn't have been attracted the attention of the bank whatsoever and it probably would never have been an investigation. Again, if he told the FBI the truth and they contact the other person saying, yeah, he's giving me the money, that might have been the end of it as well. This might not have become public.
But the violation that triggers everything here is that when he tells a lie, or series of lies, to the FBI, as to the nature of the transactions, that he wasn't keeping the money at home because he didn't trust banks anymore, that he was paying the money to somebody else.
BLACKWELL: Yes, I'm pretty sure, though, Tom, if Dennis Hastert had gone on the record saying he was paying someone to keep secret allegations of sexual abuse, it would have come out at some point, but there wouldn't be -- you know, a federal indictment related to lie to get FBI. It would have come out at some point.
BLACKWELL: All right. Tom Fuentes, thank you so much for helping us understand it.
FUENTES: You're welcome, Victor.
PAUL: Developing this morning -- Egypt has now released a U.S. citizen who had been jailed since 2013, apparently for his support of ousted President Mohamed Morsi. Mohamed Soltan, a dual U.S. and Egyptian citizen, had been on a hunger strike for 14 months, we understand. He was recently sentenced to life in prison.
But CNN's Ian Lee joins us on the phone.
So, Ian, he was sentenced recently to life in prison but has now been released. What prompted the release?
IAN LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Well, talking to his family, they told me that once he was sentenced to life in prison, Christi, that the U.S. government and the Egyptian government started negotiations to secure his release. According to an Egyptian law, once a person is found guilty of the crime, they can be deported by the president to another country, the home country and serve out the remainder of their sentence there.
We saw that in the al Jazeera trial when the journalist was returned to Australia. According to the family, the same situation happened today. He has been undergoing a hunger strike for many months. In talking to his family, they don't know the current state of had his
health. They say that once he lands to evaluate his condition, and if he needs medical treatment, they will provide it as soon as possible. The United States embassy here in Cairo saying that they're extremely happy that happened and announced he is on his way.
And the family also very relieved that he's finally been released from Egyptian prison.
PAUL: And you said he's on his way, where? To the U.S.? And how soon might that happen?
LEE: Well, he's on his way, currently. We haven't heard the exact time for landing. He's going to land in Washington, D.C.
His family says they're going to be waiting for him. No family members were able to travel with him. This all happened fairly quickly.
But the family very much happy. Obviously, they've been fighting for this for quite a long time. And in talking to them after the life sentence was handed down, they had really almost given up hope because of the judiciary here in Egypt.
PAUL: All right. Ian Lee. Thank you so much. For keeping us apprised of what's happening there.
BLACKWELL: All right. Let's talk now about the record flooding in Texas. It's not over yet. We've seen it all, raging waters. You see the property damage, cars damaged, deaths.
Well, how much more can this already ravaged state take? Well, more is on the way.
Baltimore's former mayor, Maryland's former governor, Martin O'Malley expected to announce his candidacy for the presidency today. Find out one local group plans to protest that big announcement.
And he's best known for playing screech on "Saved by the Bell".
[07:15:00] But coming up, we'll tell you why this TV star is avoiding jail time, and how.
BLACKWELL: Eighteen minutes after the hour.
Soon, federal aid will be on its way to Texas. You know the state has been hammered by severe weather this week. The Obama administration made that announcement late yesterday. At least 22 people died this week from either tornadoes or flooding. Storms have claimed the lives in Oklahoma and Northern Mexico.
We've got Dan Simon. He's in Houston, Texas, which was hit pretty hard yesterday.
Dan, looks like you're still standing in water there.
DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, good morning, Victor.
We're just outside of Houston, in the town of Highlands, Texas. This is actually a residential street that has taken on water. The San Jacinto River is just to my left, it is spilled over. Now, I should tell you where we are.
Most of the homes are elevated. They're on stilts. So, they're not going to flood. But that doesn't apply to some of these other companies. And there are some mandatory evacuations in effect, including for the town of Wharton, Texas, about 30 homes now under a mandatory evacuation.
Right now, I should tell you that the rain has stopped. But there is a concern that there will be more rain later this afternoon. And that is really the last thing people need.
Right now, there is a band of storms moving through the Dallas area. I understand that airline traffic is halted at DFW. So, the question is, what's going to happen here in the Houston area? These grounds are so saturated, and they really can't take much more rain -- Victor.
BLACKWELL: So, when is the break coming then, do we know?
SIMON: We understand that next week is looking pretty good. So if these rains do stop, probably Sunday evening. Let's just hope that that happens.
So, it looks like this could be a long weekend. One or two inches of rain that could probably handle. You get, you know, three, four, five inches. And then, it looks like you're going to see another whole batch of flooding.
[07:20:02] BLACKWELL: All right. Dan Simon for us just outside of Houston, Texas -- Dan, thanks.
PAUL: Remaining defiant. One day after being re-elected to the president of soccer's governing body, Sepp Blatter addressed the scandal that has locked FIFA. We're going to talk about that.
And you know what? It's a story that made news across the world. A mom said that a hospital lied to her. They told her her baby was dead. Well, new records show after a nearly 50-year separation from her daughter may actually be, the hospital says, the mother's fault. We'll talk about that in a moment.
PAUL: All right. We want to give you a look at some other stories that we're following this morning.
BLACKWELL: Sepp Blatter, the now re-elected president of soccer's governing body FIFA, speaking out this morning. It's just one day after being voted into the fifth term in office. The election was overshadowed by controversy, as you know, several top officials faced corruption charges, a lot of those with close ties to the president. But still, he denied any wrongdoing during today's press conference.
Blatter also vowed to build the reputation of the organization during his next four years in office.
PAUL: And officials are still trying to decipher what caused the death of American express president Ed Gilligan who was on overseas flight, we know, to New York City, and he became seriously ill. He was 55 years old, spent his entire career to American Express and was seen by many as a likely higher successor to positions within that country.
[07:25:00] BLACKWELL: A Wisconsin jury has convicted "Saved by the Bell" star Dustin diamond of two misdemeanor charges. But the TV actor best known for playing "Screech" was cleared of the most serious felony charge. The court case stems from a ball room fight where Diamond allegedly stabbed someone.
The actor says he never intended to stab anyone. He was just trying to scare bar patrons after his girlfriend was punched in the face.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton getting another opponent. Former Governor Martin O'Malley expected to make a formal announcement later this morning. But could his policies as the mayor of Baltimore come back to haunt him? We'll explain.
Plus, the FBI struggling to keep up with the surge in the number of possible terrorist suspects. They're asking local police departments for help.
PAUL: Mortgage rates held steady this week. Here's a look.
PAUL: Lots of tension in Baltimore, and it seems the violence in that city is only getting worse. Tomorrow, in fact, is going to be the last of what has become Baltimore's deadliest month in 15 years. The city reportedly tallying 39 homicides, the latest involving the shooting death of a mother and her 7-year-old.
[07:30:04] Now, all of this as a new request is made by defense attorney in the case of Freddie Gray.
CNN's Miguel Marquez has new developments for us.
Good morning, Miguel.
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Christi, Victor, record violence in Baltimore. Shootings and murders way up in that city that feels like its under siege, and now, there are more worries about more violence ahead.
KINJI SCOTT, BALTIMORE COMMUNITY ACTIVIST: What is happening in Baltimore is just tragic beyond belief.
MARQUEZ (voice-over): And now, another possible flash point, a possible request for change of venue for the six police officers charged in connection with the death of Freddie Gray, arguing they can't get a fair trial in Baltimore City.
The arguments, the riots are horrible. The entire city terrified. An emergency citywide curfew, the National Guard called in, public officials like the mayor and police chief making prejudicial comments -- there's no way an impartial jury can be set, a fair trial, out of the question.
A change of venue would not sit well in the neighborhood where Freddie Gray was arrested and the worst of the rioting occurred.
SCOTT: If we have a change of venue from a predominantly African- American city of Baltimore, Maryland to neighboring counties where it's predominantly white if they were seeking to get pro-police support. If that were to happen this time, we would have an uprising beyond belief.
MARQUEZ: Baltimore police under the microscope like never before, one officer telling CNN anonymously a coordinated work slowdown is in effect. And now, "The Baltimore Sun" reporting arrests for the first half of may, down more than 50 percent from last year.
Even the police commissioner who recently apologized to the cops for the city's response to protests in riots said Baltimore police are questioning their own work.
ANTHONY BATTS, BALTIMORE POLICE COMMISSINER: They've said this to me, repeating them, if I get out of my car and I make a stop for a reasonable suspicion, articulable reasonable suspicion, it leads to probable cause, but I make a mistake, will I be arrested for it?
MARQUEZ: The police union adding in with its own statement saying, in part, "criminals feel empowered now, there is no respect. Police under siege in every quarter."
The neighborhood where Freddie Gray was arrested still a tinderbox. What is the relations with police right now? Where are things right now?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very edgy. Very edgy. We're being very careful how to deal with the people right now, being on pins and needles.
MARQUEZ: An impossible place for the city of Baltimore, if the venue changes and the people in the neighborhoods that rioted last month won't be happy, if it stays in Baltimore, then police won't be any more motivated to get back to work at full steam.
Christi, Victor, back to you.
BLACKWELL: All right. Miguel, thank you so much. Let's stay in Baltimore because today one of the city's former mayors
will declare his candidacy for president. Former mayor of Baltimore, former governor of Maryland, Martin O'Malley, will make his formal announcement in just a few hours but there will be several protesters on hand because many of the protesters say there is a correlation between O'Malley's time as mayor and what we're seeing in Baltimore this week and what we've seen in the last several weeks.
When asked about this issue by CNN's Jake Tapper, specifically, then mayor's policing policy, here's what O'Malley had to say about where the responsibility lies.
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MARTIN O'MALLEY (D), FORMER MARYLAND GOVERNOR: I think the real conclusion that we draw from Baltimore, from Charleston, Ferguson, and from other places is that America is failing America. We are failing to live up to the people that we expect ourselves to be. And that our grandparents expected us to be. And that our kids need for us to be.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACKWELL: All right. We'll talk about that issue in just a moment.
MJ Lee is a reporter for CNN Politics. Chris Moody is the senior correspondent for CNNpolitics.com.
But I want to start with the larger storyline here is the announcement of another candidate for the Democratic nomination.
MJ, you're I believe in Baltimore. I think I see the harbor behind you there.
What are we expecting at this rally today?
MJ LEE, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Good morning, guys. We are expecting this rally to start sometime around 10:00. O'Malley will lay out his vision for his presidential campaign. We are told that he will not necessarily develop into policy specifics, but this will be an opportunity for him to introduce himself into voters, and talk about his record in Maryland.
You mentioned the protesters that are expected to appear here today, I spent some time yesterday, walking around Baltimore and talking to the residents here. And I can tell you that the anger here is very real. While there are plenty of residents who do feel that O'Malley was a good mayor and good governor, there are also plenty of people who do have real problems with the policing tactics that he promoted as mayor and governor.
[07:35:06] And so, when the protesters come here today at the rally, it could serve as a distraction, but we are hearing that protesters expecting to keep things peaceful and hopefully it won't turn to anything violent.
BLACKWELL: Chris, let's go to the aesthetics of the day with respect to protests will these stick as a narrative for the former governor and former mayor?
CHRIS MOODY, CNNPOLITICS.COM: The recent developments in Baltimore do certainly provide a backdrop that is, I guess we could call it unfortunate for Governor O'Malley and his presidential launched today. Before the riots just a couple of weeks ago, he could have touted Baltimore as a success story. The crime dropped precipitously during his mayorship there at the time.
But at the same time, he was instituting practices, the zero tolerance police practices that brewed anger slowly, that simmered, that really came out this year. And I think that that is going to be a part of his campaign that he's going to have to answer for during his time. Now, that's actually the case for a lot of candidates, both Republicans and Democrats, who have supported tough-on crime initiatives throughout the '90s and early 2000s, including Hillary Clinton. And I think you're seeing a lot of candidates talk criminal justice reform and changing that of -- from Hillary Clinton, to Rand Paul to Chris Christie, and Martin O'Malley, you're going to be hearing a lot about political involving on their ideas on this issue.
BLACKWELL: Well, you know, what we learn every cycle, that these candidates are not running against an ideal. They're running against other candidates with their own baggage. If Martin O'Malley wants to win this nomination, MJ, he's got a lot of ground to make up to get ahead of former Secretary Clinton.
Do we expect him to come out punching today?
LEE: Absolutely. Soon after he speaks, he will head immediately to Iowa and then he will be in New Hampshire tomorrow.
Interesting that you mentioned the other candidates who are in the race. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders is actually also going to be in Iowa today.
This is an interesting situation where both candidates, O'Malley and Sanders, are trying to prevent themselves as progress tiff alternatives to Hillary Clinton. You know, get the voters who are less inclined to support Hillary Clinton, and is looking for someone with a more populous message and rhetoric.
So, whether or not Martin O'Malley, whether there's oxygen, quite frankly in the race for O'Malley to really get the momentum he needs to even get ahead of Bernie Sanders, we'll have to wait and see.
BLACKWELL: So, let me ask you, Chris, quickly before we go, there's some conversation and there's a good piece in "Politico" this week about Bernie sanders being the better challenger to Hillary Clinton because he has supported all the Elizabeth run Elizabeth, speaking of Elizabeth Warren supporters who re more on the more progressive end of the Democratic Party.
Do you believe that?
MOODY: Well, you know, I lot of people run for president for different reasons. A lot of people run to win, but some people run to win. Some run to push issues. And Bernie Sanders is one of those who could compare him to Rand Paul back in 2012. Those people will get a lot of support. A lot of grassroots support.
They draw big crowds but they're not going to be necessarily formidable when I formidable when it comes to winning elections.
I think with Martin O'Malley, he is very progressive. He has a record when he was governor. If he can get his name ID out, I think had he could be more of a formidable challenger. But the real world is, Hillary Clinton is here and she's sucking all the oxygen out of the room. And so, it's going to be difficult to gain a leading edge.
BLACKWELL: All right. Chris Moody, MJ Lee, thank you both.
We, of course, will bring you O'Malley's announcement live at 10:00 Eastern Hour.
PAUL: Well, the FBI says it just cannot keep an eye on the hundreds of suspected ISIS supporters in the U.S. We're going to tell you who they're asking for help.
And the next hour, the Duggar family candle. You can't find a show on TLC right now, the network has not officially cancelled it, we want to point out. But we're going to hear insights to someone who has been inside the Duggar home talking to them and their kids. We're back in a moment.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: The rates of sexually transmitted diseases are going up in some states experts think they know why it's called Tinder or Craigslist or Grindr. In sort, social media are helping people hook up in ways like never before.
Let's take a look at a study out of Rhode Island. This study shows from 1980s to now, syphilis up 79 percent, gonorrhea up 30 percent, and new cases of HIV up 33 percent.
[07:40:08] So, the experts asked themselves, why are we seeing these big increases? We didn't see these kinds of increases from the '80s to the '90s. And they think one big reason is now we have these apps and social media websites. It's as easy as swiping right to make that love connection and hook up with someone or someones very quickly.
But, of course, you can't blame the sites. They're not making people have promiscuous sex. There's personal responsibility here. People need to ask each other, hey, have you been tested? If you haven't, I want you to be tested and, of course, condoms should be used.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BLACKWELL: The FBI says it cannot keep an eye on the hundreds of suspected ISIS supporters in the U.S. and are now asking local police departments for help. This changes part of the fallout from the terrorist attack in garland, Texas, earlier this morning, the FBI says one of the attacker, Elton Simpson, was already under investigation but managed to elude surveillance to attempt this foiled attack.
We got with this morning, CNN law enforcement analyst, Harry Houck, he joins us now.
HARRY HOUCK, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Good morning.
BLACKWELL: Good morning to you.
Harry, I wonder if you can fill the picture out when they say they need the help of local law enforcement, are they asking them to watch Facebook pages, to surveil people?
[07:45:00] What are we expecting?
HOUCK: It's probably all of that. It's a bit a red flag to me. There's roughly 30,000 agents at the FBI the last time I checked. That's approximately the size of the New York City Police Department.
So they don't have the manpower to watch were every single possible terrorist in this country. Each state does have their own task forces that virtually work with the FBI. And that's comprised of local law enforcement also. But apparently, that's not enough.
So it appears to me that they're going to have -- it takes probably about six people to watch somebody 24 hours a day. That's just following somebody. All right? So if you have hundreds and hundreds of potential suspects, then that's thousands and thousands of police officers and detectives having to follow these people around.
BLACKWELL: That leads me to the next question, it's not like the coffers are filled with unlimited resources. Can they handle that job?
HOUCK: Exactly. They're going to have to find the money because, you know, the threat of ISIS attacking us here in this country seems to be pretty high if the FBI is looking for help. So going to have to, you know, put more manpower into these fusion centers, more manpower into the joint task force to be able to follow these people around.
Most of the time, they're not following these people around, unless they have maybe a planned attack. They're most likely following them on Facebook. Maybe there are some wiretaps going on that still takes a lot of manpower to be able to do that.
BLACKWELL: All right. Let's listen to what FBI Director James Comey talked about with the ability to track potential terrorists. We'll talk about it on the other side.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: There's an incredibly difficult task that we're enlisting all of our federal and state partners in that we're working on every single day. But I can't stand here with any high confidence when I confront the world that's increasingly dark to me and tell you that I've got it covered.
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BLACKWELL: Honest, but not reassuring at all.
HOUCK: No, it's not. The thing is, with the homeland threat we have here, a lot of these are homegrown groups or single jihadists here. So, if they're not having any kind of information back and forth from other terrorist groups, we're not picking this information up. We're not picking up that intelligence. So, if two guys alone want to conduct an attack and they don't tell anybody about it, there's no way we'll find out about it.
BLACKWELL: Is there additional training that comes with this request?
HOUCK: Of course, there's got to be additional FBI training, the homeland security has all kinds of trainings that's available to police officers and it's free. And police officers I know to go to it all the time. Each state also works strongly with the FBI in putting programs together to train police officers.
BLACKWELL: All right. CNN law enforcement analyst Harry Houck, thanks for filling out the picture for us.
HOUCK: No problem.
PAUL: Well, did she put her baby girl up for adoption nearly 50 years ago? Or is it a ploy to cover up a massive human trafficking ring. Newly uncovered birth records could offer new details in a scandal in a St. Louis hospital.
We're going to try to uncover what's fact and what's fiction for you. Stay close.
[07:51:48] PAUL: Fifty-one minutes past the hour.
And a newly obtained document may show that a woman who says her baby was stolen from a St. Louis hospital actually gave up her child for adoption. We have been following this story for weeks now, as you know. Remember this moment here, that's mom Zella Jackson Price and her baby, Diane, they were reunited years, 40 years at least after she gave birth. Zella, of course, says she contends somebody stole her baby and told her that her baby had died.
Well, more than two dozen women have made the same kind of allegations about their newborns saying they were stolen and now a decade's old document appears to show the lost time between the two is the mom's own fault in this case specifically with Zella. Adoption records say she gave up her daughter just five months after giving birth and she did tell a different hospital which raises all kinds of questions what really happens.
Well, Zella Jackson Price's attorney Al Watkins is joining us.
Al, thank you, again, for being with us.
First of all, do you believe these records are authentic?
AL WATKINS, ATTORNEY FOR ZELLA JACKSON PRICE: No. The records are not authentic. Any time you have a criminal or nefarious act like this involving the thief of a baby, there has to be appropriate documentation that is consistent with the story other than the real one. So, this comes as no surprise and is totally inconsistent with the facts as we know them.
PAUL: OK. So, let's talk about this. The hospital, as I understand it, accuses her of walking across town to the all-white city hospital. Remember, this was in the '60s. And she did that to deliver the baby there and then they say she walked all the way back to Homer G. Philips Hospital to give the baby up for adoption.
Let's listen to what Zella says about that, first of all.
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ZELLA JACKSON PRICE, REUNITED WITH CHILD: This is robbing me of my joy. It's robbing me of my joy. You have robbed me. You are trying to kill my character. You're trying to lie and say I was at one hospital.
I've never been to city hospital in my life. I can't even tell you right now where it was. I think it's lies on top of lies.
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PAUL: OK. Let me ask you, Al, how plausible is the hospital story and not some corroboration from city hospital and their records if she had gone there to have the baby?
WATKINS: Well, yes, that's two questions. One is there is absolutely no credible or plausibility that would substantiate what these records show. This is a sealed adoption file that has been open after decades.
Zella Jackson Price had two babies at Homer G. Philips Hospital before Baby Diane was born. She had lost a baby, a third baby, before Baby Diane was born. She had subsequent babies at Homer G. Phillips Hospital. She lived in the shadow of the Homer G. Phillips Hospital.
And when she delivered Baby Diane, her then sister-in-law, worked in the maternity ward. She is alive today. She was present at the time she was delivering baby Diane and she corroborates that assertion.
[07:55:02] To think that 1960s, that she walked across town, or got across town to the white hospital to deliver her baby is not only implausible, it didn't happen. If you were a black man in St. Louis shot on the steps of city hospital, number on, you didn't get treated to city hospital, number one. You got put on a gurney and rolled north to Homer G. Phillips Hospital.
PAUL: OK, two real quick questions, I have about a minute left.
First of all, do you believe that this was a conspiracy of several people at the hospital?
WATKINS: Yes. There is no way that what was done could have been done without a very coordinated set of steps and undertakings by more than one person in a position of authority. Not just with the hospital, but with the city and potentially in the courts.
PAUL: So, where do you go from here? We only have 30 seconds. What do you do now with these records that are going to come out?
WATKINS: Sure. Well, we need to get a hold of the records from city hospital, number one, if my client had her baby there. There has to be a lot of records. We want them from Homer G. Phillips Hospital.
The city is in possession of them. They have not produced them. They have all the forms necessary.
We want the police reports. If my client abandoned this baby, why wasn't she arrested? High-profile, easy to find and they had her address.
PAUL: All right. Well, we'll see what happens. Attorney Al Watkins, thank you so much.
WATKINS: My pleasure.
PAUL: And thank you for keeping as apprised. We're going to stay on this story obviously as it continues to break.
In the new hour -- the next hour, I should say, of NEW DAY begins after this quick break. Stay close.