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Polls Closed and Early Results Out in Greek Referendum; Pope Francis Lands in Ecuador in A Few Hours; Princess Charlotte Christened; Fourth of July Celebrations Turn Deadly; Hundreds Attend "Take The Flag Down" Rally; Bush: Trump Comments Meant To "Draw Attention"; Press Lassoed By Clinton Aides At Parade; San Francisco Murder Fires Up Immigration Debate; U.S. Wants Redemption After 2011 Loss. Aired 2-3p ET

Aired July 5, 2015 - 14:00   ET


[14:00:13] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: Hello, everyone. And thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

We begin with this breaking news out of Greece. Polls are now closed and we're getting the first early results on the Greek referendum. At issue, if Greece should accept financial help from Europe. Tens of thousands of Greeks have taken to the streets on both sides of the vote as the country slips closer to the edge of collapse. So far we're seeing early results leaning toward the no side, but again it is still very early.

Isa Soares is in Athens for us.

So, what do we understand is happening right now? OK. Alright, who do I have there in Athens?

ISA SOARES, CNN INTERNATIONAL REPORTER: Hey, Fredricka. Can you hear me?

WHITFIELD: Yes, I can. Tell me what's happening.

SOARES: Good evening to you.

WHITFIELD: So, early, I know the polls have closed. And so, it was expected that somewhere two hours after the polls closing there might be some early results and that's what we're starting to see a bit of, right?

SOARES: Correct. Correct. What we've got now is 20 percent of votes being counted, Fredricka. We have looking like 60 percent going to the no. This is early stages at the moment. But normally, in the previous election at the beginning of the year for the prime minister (INAUDIBLE), all you needed was 10 percent of the vote to get a sense of which way it's going to go. So at the moment we're 20 percent of the votes being counted, 60 percent with no.

And I can tell you - I mean, I've been here to Greece many, many times throughout this year and I have been here this week speaking to both sides of the camp, the yes and the no side. And this afternoon alone, I stopped so many Greeks and every single person I stopped it's been a no. I have yet to meet one person voting for yes.

Of course, we don't know if there's an element of shyness to it. The fact that they would go against voting for Europe rather than their prime minister. We don't know that yet. But it did - it is from what I've seen not scientific in any way, shape or form, Fredricka, but it gives you a sense of the voice of people here in Athens.

WHITFIELD: OK. So Isa, help us understand because some folks are just tuning in and just trying to get a grasp of what this referendum vote was all about in Greece. So if early indications are correct, the majority would be voting for no, the majority would be saying we don't want any more austerity measures being extended by the European Union, which would mean potentially more tax increases or some sort of refurbishing of the way in which the economic structure thus far has been handled in the last five years. Help us better understand what that means for the average Greek there.

SOARES: Absolutely. So what they would voting on and what the referendum question was do you accept the terms of the proposals of the creditors that the European Union commission and the IMF that have been asking for. That's calling for more cuts in pensions, more tax rises. Majority of people interpreted that as more austerity or more of the same or really changing the way the country is run.

Europe on the other hand, Fredricka, saying this referendum it's not about austerity. It is about going to be staying out of Europe or wanting to go out of Europe. So very different interpretations depending on what side you're on.

But in terms of the Greek people, the way they seeing it is do we want more austerity? The economy has shrunk 25 percent. Unemployment around 26 percent, Fredricka. Youth unemployment is more than 50 percent. And to put in context for you from people I have spoken to for months I've been in Greece as well, they say only 50 percent of pensioners here rely on pensions as their only source of income. So they say, look, the cuts to now, austerity up now hasn't worked, so why back further proposals from EU that is just going to make our lives so much tougher?

WHITFIELD: All right. So, some are saying that things have been so bad in the past five years, why would they want more of the same but then what's the flip side as we saw leading up to this weekend that banks were closed, ATMs were running out of money, there were food shortages, medicine shortages, why would a no vote, if indeed that ends up being the majority, a no-vote, how could that change all of those things and create better situations in terms of food supply or even money?

SOARES: There is a feeling - you're right. There is a feeling of, you know, a lot of people here that have nothing left to lose. They have suffered so much. And they are betting on something better to be completely honest with you. The people that voted no that I spoke to, yes, they are worried about the banks might not being open on Monday. But they said at least we voted for something that perhaps will define and shape our future. We do not want to have our hands tied to proposals that really will make our life harder. They are scared the next couple of days. They are worried that the

European central bank may not pump more money into the banks. And they are worried that a deal will take more than 48 hours to reach. But as the prime minister said, if people vote overwhelming no, that will strengthen his hand when it comes to negotiating position and meet with Europe next week. Well, whether he gets it that way is a completely different matter because Europe has been very clear on this. If people vote no, it's a sign they don't want to be in the euro. So in many ways, problems are just only really starting for Greeks, Fredricka.

[14505:41] WHITFIELD: All right. So it had been said two hours approximately after the polls close, which would have been noon eastern time here, that we would start to see some numbers. So, any predictions as to when some of those hard and fast numbers might happen?

SOARES: Yes. I think by in about two hours or so it will get more clarity in terms of the numbers coming from Athens. We've been looking at different constituency. But you know, if the 20 percent or anything go by then it is clear no has got an edge here. And this is what people have been telling me all week that many people backing no with pride and with dignity and those are words they're been using -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. Isa Soares, thank you so much from Athens. Appreciate it. We'll check back in with you.

All right. Let's talk more about this with Rona Foroohar, CNN global economic analyst and assistant managing editor for "Time" magazine.

OK. So, Rona, help us understand. And again, these are early numbers. It's unclear what the final tally will be. But so far some polls are indicating more than 60 percent are voting for no for no more assistance from the EU. What do you interpret here?

RONA FOROOHAR, CNN GLOBAL ECONOMIC ANALYST (via phone): Well, I think for Greece if you get a no vote it's going to mean short-term chaos. I think that you could have a major sort of banking hysteria. It's very possible that the European central banks would cut off emergency funding if it looks like the vote is no. And I think that, you know, you're really going to see a lot of what you saw last week, perhaps in a heightened way. Panic over people not getting money out of the ATMs, et cetera.

Now, the bigger question is what this means for the European markets and the global markets. And my sense is that answer is going to hinge on what the European central bank does on Monday. I think if we come into Monday and start to see what we did last week, which is really shaky markets, stock markets falling, bond yields and some of the other peripheral countries like Italy's (INAUDIBLE) going up which means investors think those markets are getting riskier, then, you are going to be looking at ECB to see what they're doing. Are they going to start buying up on from those cripple market or are they going to try and really campen (ph) down the panic and how effective will that be? I think that that's going to be the key question that the global investment community are going to be looking for.

WHITFIELD: And what about even more immediately? If we leading up to this weekend, we are seeing that banks were closed, people are running out of money, there were restrictions on how much you could - you know, 60 euros that you were able to withdraw from an ATM per customer at any one time, how might things be different on Monday?

FOROOHAR: I don't think they are going to be different. If anything, if we get a no vote, I think there are going to be more panic. Because what will essentially start happening at that point is you'll see Greece moving from being a country that is within the European community to falling potentially out of Eurozone or becoming what it was before, which is really frankly an emerging market. A rather poor country, I mean, Greece is 0.3 percent of the entire global economy. This is a very small, very poor country. The reason we all care about it right now is it has potential to destabilize the euro.

The euro fell quite a bit against the dollar. I think that it's possible that will happen again this week and then you start looking at what that does to the rest of Europe. Do you see slower growth in Europe? Do you see potentially another recession in Europe? What does that mean for the rest of the world? So those are the big questions.

WHITFIELD: So why would it potentially destabilize the euro? We're talking about one small country. And as you said, its history is such that economically it wasn't incredibly strong before becoming welcomed into the Eurozone. Why would it destabilize the Eurozone potentially?

FOROOHAR: That's a great question. It is because the entire Eurozone is an unprecedented experiment. This is, you know, several countries, 18 countries, coming together creating this new currency. That was unprecedented. Now the idea that it could break apart and one of those countries could pull out is also unprecedented. And no one knows quite how the dominos will fall once that starts happening. I mean, there's the immediate questions of Greek debt and who gets paid and who doesn't and you can bet that there will wrangling over that for decades or more to come. You still look at what happened to Argentina. They are still fighting 13 years after default about who is getting paid. So that is one issue.

But the other issue is does this start to undercut the European economy to the extent that other countries start becoming riskier and that lenders don't want to lend in Italy or in Spain. What does it do to the value of the euro overall? And does it do to the legitimacy of the European experiment, this idea that, you know, these countries are going to come together. They are going to form a new bloc. They are going to become a kind of the United States of Europe. That really hasn't happened. And if there were to be a bigger breakup, that's a major geopolitical event.

[14:10:41] WHITFIELD: And then, do you see other countries who the economies may be fragile following suit potentially?

FOROOHAR: Absolutely. I mean, you have countries like Italy and Spain that have big debt problems. The same way Greece does. Now, I don't see right now those countries falling out of the Eurozone. I don't think in the next few weeks or even months, we are going to see a crisis of that magnitude. But again, this is unprecedented territory. Once Greek starts falling out, a lot of unforeseen things could come into play and there could be contagion just as they were in the financial crisis in 2008 and you don't know where they'll come from. So I think the markets are going to be very jittery for the next week or two.

WHITFIELD: All right. Rona Foroohar, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

All right. Also this afternoon, the first Latin American Pope begins his second visit to South America after a trip to Brazil back in 2013 and this time he's bringing a message of solidarity with the poor.

Pope Francis lands in Ecuador in just a couple of hours. He will be visiting some of the poorest countries in a region where some 40 percent of the world's Catholics live. It is also an area where many have turned away from Catholicism to embrace evangelical religions.

Well, joining us right now from Quito is CNN international correspondent Shasta Darlington.

So, Shasta, set the stage for us. I see lots of people outlining the streets. And this is a greatly anticipated visit.

SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Exactly, Fredricka. The excitement is really growing. This will be the first time in three decades that a Pope has come here to Ecuador. And as you mentioned, people are already lining up here on the street. He's not expected to pass by in his Pope mobile for another four hours, but these people want to make sure they get a glimpse of him. They are singing their religious hymns.

This is a big challenge also for Pope Francis for the reason that you mentioned. The Catholic Church has been losing ground to these evangelical Pentecostal and protestant churches. These are popping upon corners in some of the poorest communities.

We had a chance to visit one of them yesterday. Watch this.


DARLINGTON (voice-over): Every Saturday, they join in song and prayer at this church on the outskirts of Quito, Ecuador. Led by Reverend Lema (ph), some Parishioners breakdown in tears.

This is what Pope Francis is up against, these small churches that literally open their doors just a few steps from the people. They want to reach.

Here amongst some of the city's poorest for every Catholic Church, there are a half dozen evangelical temples. Often and so called garage churches like this one. These young parishioners visit the sick and needy.

God put us on earth for a reason, she says. And my reason is to visit those in need and talk to them about God.

But with the emergence of Pope Francis, a champion of the poor, there's a new renewed enthusiasm among Catholics. School children in Quito have practiced this greeting.

Welcome, Poe Francis, he sings. Ecuador receives you with songs of love.

The big question is can he get people back in the pews?

David Carbajal (ph) was raised evangelical but started attending the Catholic Church when he married. With Pope Francis, he says, he finally feels catholic.

David is telling something very interesting here. Not only is this Latin American Pope very charismatic person, but this will be the first time in 30 years that a Pope has landed here in Ecuador. And that really speaks directly to the people.

For this father Robin Calle, Pope Francis is building a foundation.

What the Pope is doing is generating a kind of internal movement in the church to build on that foundation, he says. But it's too soon to talk about impact. First, priests have to embrace the Pope's message and parishioners especially the young have to feel motivated to return to the fold.


DARLINGTON: Just to give you an idea, Fredricka, about how big the challenge is that faces Pope Francis, a generation ago more than 90 percent of Latin Americans were catholic. Today that's just 69 percent. So while this visit is an important first step, he really has to go much further to get those people back in the pews.

[14:15:06] WHITFIELD: Those are significant numbers and differences.

All right, thanks so much, Shasta Darlington. We'll check back with you later on.

All right. Also still ahead, the royal family celebrating a very special day at church. Crowds lining the streets there as well as Princess Charlotte makes her second public appearance after her Christening. We have all the amazing pictures and details next.


WHITFIELD: All right, today, hundreds of fans greeted England's favorite new baby, Princess Charlotte in second appearance since being birth in May. Crowds cheered on the duke and duchess at Cambridge them as they walked from their country state to St. Mary Magdalene church. It was there that baby Charlotte was christened.

Our Erin McLaughlin is live for us now from London.

So Erin, Charlotte's brother, Prince George, well, he was center stage, too because he was christened at a chapel in central London. This was a little different, but you know, he was wearing something rather spectacular. I guess paying homage to his dad.

ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right. Prince George was wearing some red shorts, very similar outfit to what Prince William wore when Prince William was a baby and met Prince Harry for the first time at the hospital. So a little nod to history there. Lots of attention of course also paid to what Kate was wearing. She was wearing an Alexander McQueen coat and a Jane Taylor hat.

And this was a very special moment for the royal family. As you said there, Prince George was christened in London while Princess Charlotte christened in a place called Sandringham (ph). And this not far from where Prince William and Kate now live. It's also the place where the royal family every year gathers to celebrate Christmas. And every year, they go on this very same walk to the church.

Now, I'm told the ceremony itself lasted around 45 minutes. It went absolutely smoothly. And there were historic touches throughout. The baptismal font which they brought especially from London. It is called the Lily Font. And this is the first time that is particular font is actually brought outside of London, outside of a royal palace. So it was incredibly ornate, brought in with special security. And I understand that baby Charlotte was baptized with water from the River Jordan as well.

Now, after the ceremony concluded, they had a reception for friends and very close family on the estate. They had tea and cake and I also understand the (INAUDIBLE), the famed photographer was brought in for a family portrait.

[14:20:56] WHITFIELD: My God. Well, they are just so picture perfect no matter what angle they all look so good. And the two little babies, I mean, they are precious.

MCLAUGHLIN: Absolutely adorable.

WHITFIELD: All right. Erin McLaughlin, thanks so much.

Well, we're not done. We want to talk more about this incredible looking couple. Let's bring in royal commentator Victoria Arbiter from New York.

So Victoria, Princess Charlotte was wearing that lace and satin christening gown and I understand it does have some family history. Have we seen this before?

VICTORIA ARBITER, ROYAL COMMENTATOR: This has a lot of family history. You are absolutely right. It's actually a replica of the original gown which was created in 1841 for the first child of Prince Albert and Queen Victoria, Princess Victoria. It was worn by every royal baby up until 2004. Lady Louise was the last baby to wear to her christening. It was simply deemed too delicate and the royal family wants to preserve it. So the queen's personal dresser, Andrea Kelly (ph), she handmade a brand new one but it is the detail is really quite incredible. It's exactly the same. And that's been worn by every royal baby since Prince Edward's son was Christened in 2008.

WHITFIELD: Oh, my God, beautiful. These photographs are just stunning. So this lily font that Erin was speaking of and the water from this famous holy river, all used during this baptism. Why was this very significant and how does this uphold something about, you know, tradition?

ARBITER: Really, when it comes to the royal family, we're seeing a sense of history and the sense of continuity. Continuity really is what they are all about. And so, looking at this font, again, this was designed and commissioned by Prince Albert and Queen Victoria for the christening of their first daughter in 1841. The water that comes from the river Jordan is believed to be where Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist because of significance, it's meaningful significant to Christianity, it's used by number of Christian royal houses.

And so, really, we saw all of the old customs and traditions associated with royal christenings incorporated today. Where we saw a touch of new was in selection of the godparents. William and Kate really have made sure to choose people based on friendship, trust and loyalty as opposed to wealth, status and position.

And this is new for royal babies. In the past we see a whole host of European monarchs, lords, knights, (INAUDIBLE), sort of people that are very high, considered high status. With William and Kate, we're seeing very close friends and family members. There is the first cousin on each side. There is three very close friends. And so, this is where Cambridge is are trying to adapt how things were done before to make sure it works for their family and really brings things into the modern age.

WHITFIELD: Wow. And a prim (ph) never looks so good. I mean, how do they do this?

ARBITER: Well, and I can tell you from experience, those are prim (ph) are hard to push. That steering is horrendous. And this is from the 1950s (INAUDIBLE). So she did it in heels, what can I say?

WHITFIELD: She just makes it looks all so effortless and easy. Just no fair.

All right. Victoria Arbiter, we'll see you again. Thank you so much.

ARBITER: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Still ahead, the fight over the confederate flag is heating up in South Carolina. Big rallies for and against the flag as lawmakers prepare to debate whether to remove it. Details next.


[14:27:58] WHITFIELD: All right, checking our top stories.

U.S. secretary of state John Kerry says the latest round of nuclear talks with Iran quote "could go either way." Kerry says there has been some progress, but there are still major sticking points.


JOHN KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: But we don't have a deal if there's absolute intragidence (ph), if there is an unwillingness to move on things that are important. President Obama has always said we're prepared to walk away. It's not what anybody wants. We want to get an agreement.


WHITFIELD: Foreign ministers are arriving today to try to finalize negotiations ahead of Tuesday's deadline.

And Fourth of July celebrations turned deadly on Kentucky's Ohio River last night. One adult and one teenager were killed and three others are missing after a pontoon boat capsized near downtown Louisville. Fire officials rescued four others were rescued from the water pontoon was found pinned against a work barge near a bridge. But it's still unclear what caused the accident.

And the fight against the confederate flag is raging this Fourth of July weekend in South Carolina. Hundreds are rallying at the state capitol calling for the flag to be removed. Justice state lawmakers begins debating that issue tomorrow.

More from our reporter Mike Dizumo, CNN affiliate WIS.


MIKE DIZUMO, WIS REPORTER (voice-over): On the anniversary of America's independence, this crowd faced one flag.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think this is marvelous. This is what true independence is all about.

DIZUMO: While crying for this one to be taken down.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's been a long time coming. This flag belongs in a museum.

DIZUMO: For opponents of the confederate battle flag on its flown on South Carolina's statehouse grounds for decade, the division comes from a difference of opinion. On Saturday, hundreds of critics including members of the NAACP once again made their case on what the bars and stars represents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is kind of saying on our state, you can't really deny that the only thing that it really symbolizes is racism.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was put up to represents segregation. And so it represents segregation to me.

DIZUMO: But supporters have said it's a symbol of southern heritage and a tribute to Palmetto state's civil war dead, but that's a viewpoint many here say they still don't accept. [14:30:00] REP. JAMES SMITH (D), SOUTH CAROLINA STATEHOUSE: To honor the dead who fought under that banner and honor the terms of surrender and compels one to thorough the flag forever.

DIZUMO: Rather flag opponents once again argued its connection to Dylann Roof, the man charged with gunning down and killing nine people at Emanuel AME Church.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Decent people, God fearing people.

DIZUMO: Now the question for this group, will South Carolina lawmakers finally take action in the coming days?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I come here a lot. I'm driving by here a lot. I feel awful. I really would like to see it come down this week. It would be great.

DIZUMO: A feeling shared on this 4th of July.


WHITFIELD: That was Mike Dizumo from our affiliate WIS in Columbia, South Carolina. CNN's Nick Valencia joining me right now on the phone from South Carolina state capitol. So Nick, describe the scene today on the capital.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Fred, it's certainly a lively discussion between those who want to see the flag remain at the state capitol and those who want to see it taken down.

Standing in front of me, about 10 feet away, a group of half a dozen people holding the confederate flag having what we can only characterize as a healthy discussion with somebody who wants to see the flag removed.

As we've been reporting, lawmakers are set to debate the permanent removal of the flag from the pole from a monument, which rests 50 yards in front of the state house here in Columbia.

The Republican governor, Nikki Haley, has called for it to be removed just days as a matter of fact after a photo emerged of the Charleston church shooter holding the flag.

This debate tomorrow is going to require two-thirds vote in both chambers of the House and Senate in the state general assembly for this flag that's been flown here in the state capitol since 1961 to be removed.

Earlier, Fredricka, we caught up with people on both sides of the debate.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There are people who are raised on the south that are against this flag, but why, because they are being spoon-fed what the media and haters and they are haters. They don't know me as a person. They see this white girl standing here holding a battle flag, a battle flag that flew in battle. I'm holding this flag in remembrance of all of the men who lost their lives.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That symbol excludes some of us from feeling that we're included and that we're a part of what's going on. So that debate being brought about now is needed.


VALENCIA: A recent survey with lawmakers taken in the state of South Carolina suggests that there are enough votes to have this flag removed and if everything goes smoothly, that flag could be removed as soon as Thursday according to some representatives. Tomorrow's debate will be whether or not there will be testimony or if it will go straight to a vote on the floor -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Nick Valencia, thanks so much. Again, the debate beginning tomorrow in Columbia, South Carolina and soon after a vote, we'll see. Thanks so much.

All right, still ahead, Jeb Bush says Donald Trump wants attention with his comments on immigration. CNN's Sunlen Serfaty is live for us at the White House.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fred, those comments by Trump continue to dominate so much of the discussion out on the campaign trail and this really does seem to be getting under the skin of many other Republican candidates including Jeb Bush. I'll have latest back and forth after the break.



WHITFIELD: All right, Jeb Bush says Donald Trump doesn't represent the views of most Republicans. He's firing off some of the most aggressive comments yet on Trump who called Mexican immigrants rapists.


JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Trump is wrong on this. He's doing this. He's not a stupid guy. I don't assume that he thinks that every Mexican crossing the border is a rapist. He's doing this to inflame and incite and to draw attention, which is his organizing principle of his campaign.

It doesn't represent the Republican Party or its values. But politically we are going to win when we are hopeful and optimistic and big and broad rather than just angry all the time, and this is an exaggerated form of that.


WHITFIELD: All right, Trump fired back saying Bush is out of touch with the American people and doesn't understand anything about border security. CNN's Sunlen Serfaty is joining us now from the White House. So this fight between Bush and Trump, is this a short lived battle or is it a prelude of bigger fights perhaps to come?

SERFATY: Well, Fred, I think the fact that it's continuing to suck up so much oxygen out on the campaign trail is turning into a big concern within the Republican Party. I think that's in part why we likely have seen a lot of these Republican candidates start to take on Trump more directly in those controversial comments.

You know, Jeb Bush being a great example. Yesterday in New Hampshire he really didn't sway away from taking Trump head-on saying that he was offended by what Trump said personally because of course he is married to a woman who is born in Mexico and he called them extraordinarily ugly comments.

Now Trump really is not backing down. He's actually doubling down on his defense over the original intention of what he meant during those controversial comments. Here's what Trump had to say today.


DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I love the Mexican people. They're fantastic. Everybody knows that. In terms of the border it's a disgrace. Either we have a border or we don't have a country. You can't have a country without borders. And people are coming in and some of those people -- I read it even yesterday.

There was a huge article about the tremendous crime that's taking place. It's like a crime wave. It's one of the most dangerous places on earth. And I bring that up and all of a sudden I'm a bad person.


SERFATY: And this all back and forth comes at a time when Republicans are very aware of their need to make inroads within the Hispanic community. They know this is an important voting block and that's why we've seen people like Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney over this weekend start to speak out and take more leadership on the issue especially because it's also creating divisions within their party -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, Sunlen Serfaty, thanks so much, from the White House. On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton's visit to New Hampshire is now making news for what happened to the reporters covering her.

Let's bring in CNN's MJ Lee. So MJ, you were covering Clinton yesterday. You described how she was walking in the parade 4th of July celebrations. But apparently what made for a good photo was the fact that some of the reporters were lassoed. Describe what this is all about. You see them roped in there.

MJ LEE, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER (via telephone): Yes, what happened is that this parade was going down the main road in this small town in New Hampshire.

[14:40:06] In the beginning, they were allowing reporters to walk down the parade with Secretary Clinton sort of freely and then, I guess, as things got a little more crowded and they felt like they need to have more control and make sure reporters weren't crowding her.

They took out this white rope and held it so that reporters could not get close to Secretary Clinton, which meant that a lot of reporters as you can see from footage and the pictures that have now been widely circulated.

A lot of reporters having to walk backwards and being literally forced to walk at the pace of the Clinton staffers that were holding the rope line. A lot of people were tripping. I happen to lose my shoe at one point. It was a hectic scene.

I think a lot of people found the pictures to be both sort of amusing and a little, you know, sort of raising question about, is this the best way to handle the press especially for a candidate who has had a lot of issues frankly so far in terms of her relationship to the press and access that she has given to reporters.

WHITFIELD: OK, so were any of the spectators making an issue out of this in any way?

LEE: I don't know if spectators were making an issue out of it. Most people in the town were happy to see her, but I do think the response to the pictures that have been circulating, you know, I understand them. I think that the image doesn't look great.

I know that a lot of people have asked the question to the reporters specifically, why don't you all just refuse to abide by these rules that Clinton staffers are making up and trying to enforce?

Well, the answer is that it's not just Clinton staffers. There are Secret Service officers surrounding her so when the staffers say you have to get out of the way and there's the Secret Service officer saying you have to move out of the way. There's no real good way to pushback on that.

WHITFIELD: All right, MJ Lee, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

All right, still ahead, captured killer, David Sweat, behind bars again. Details on his new confinement next.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Jane Weldon has been hosting the game at her Wimbledon home for seven years.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a 5-minute walk to the all England club. You can see the courts and hear the roar from center and number one courts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Apartments with SW-19 post code start at $2,200 a week and family homes top out at $23,000. Players are willing to pay big for the convenience of walking to work. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So just something really nice about Wimbledon. It makes you feel you can have a normal life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Roger Federer requires two houses when he comes to Wimbledon to accommodate his growing family. He is looked after by Joanna (inaudible) who finds private homes for most of the top players.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are quite superstitious quite a lot of players, I think. I mean, I can never get a player to go and live in a house that's number 13, for example.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wimbledon business owners know the value of privacy. If they can keep their clients happy, they'll be returning for years to come.


WHITFIELD: New details about captured inmate and convicted killer, David Sweat. He's now behind bars at a different maximum security prison and on suicide watch. Sweat is being held at the Five Points Correctional Facility in New York, which is about a five-hour drive from the Clinton Correctional Facility where he broke out.

He will be housed in a single cell within the facility's 23-hour confinement unit. Sweat and fellow escapee, Richard Matt, led authorities on a three-week manhunt after they escaped last month.

An undocumented immigrant is the prime suspect in what appears to be a random shooting of a woman in San Francisco and that is stirring up tensions in the immigration debate. Would Kate Steinle (ph) still be alive if the suspect, a repeat felon, wasn't allowed in the U.S.?

Our Boris Sanchez joins us now from New York. Boris, how is the family taking this news?

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Very difficult for them as you can imagine, Fredricka. This appears to be a random senseless murder. Officials wanted this man detained on a prior arrest. He was let go leading many to wonder if this whole thing could have been avoided.


SANCHEZ (voice-over): Walking with his daughter, Kate, on a busy San Francisco pier Wednesday night, Jim Steinle heard a loud pop ring out.

JIM STEINLE, VICTIM'S FATHER: This was evil. Evil personified.

SANCHEZ: Kate fell to the ground hit by a bullet. The shooter running off without saying a word.

SGT. MIKE ANDRAYCHAK, SAN FRANCISCO POLICE: There does not appear to be any connection between the victim and the suspect. At this point, it appears to be a random shooting incident.

SANCHEZ: The suspect, 45-year-old, Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez, an undocumented immigrant and repeat felon. According to immigration officials, Lopez Sanchez has been deported five times to Mexico. In March, he was released from federal prison after serving time for sneaking back into the U.S.

Federal law enforcement sources tell CNN it would have been six deportations except authorities in San Francisco wanted him on a drug related warrant so U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement turned him over to deputies.

ICE officials say they requested an immigration detainer that would give them a heads-up before he was released, but the sheriff's department denied the request according to policy before letting him go. The chief attorney telling CNN there was no legal cause to detain him. Lopez Sanchez now faces homicide charges.

[14:50:03] STEINLE: It's not going to bring Kate back. Again, finding the guy and whatever, the justice will work its way through the system, but our focus is on Kate.


SANCHEZ: Officials in San Francisco say there was no warrant or judicial order of removal for him so legally they had no cause to hold him -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Boris Sanchez, thank you so much. We'll have much more in the NEWSROOM after this.


WHITFIELD: We're just hours away from the kickoff of the women's World Cup finals. Team USA hoping to recapture the cup with the defeat over Japan, which beat USA four years ago.

In fact, the vice president and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, also showing their support for Team USA with their soccer jerseys right there and guess what? They'll be at the game.

CNN's Coy Wire is joining us from Vancouver. He too is at the game. So the countdown is on, just four hours away from game time. Are we talking butterflies or just pure adrenaline rush?

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fred, the team is in a situation where they could easily slip up mentally. They just beat the tournament favorite number one, Germany, so contentment could creep in. They are facing Japan who beat them in the last World Cup finals.

So with revenge on their minds, they could easily become too hyped. I've been around a lot of athletes. Something in their eyes says they're locked in and team leader, Abby Wambach, touched on that. Listen.


[14:55:10] ABBY WAMBACH, TEAM USA FORWARD: I can't be happier for this team to be in another final. It's an achievement of itself, but we still have to win. We haven't won anything yet and we know what that feels like from four years ago and it's not a good feeling.


WIRE: This team has the mindset of a champion right now. They have an opportunity to make history by becoming the first country to win three women's World Cup titles -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: So exciting. OK, so Vice President Biden there along with his wife. What about the fan base? Is it mostly pro-USA?

WIRE: Just 38 miles from the U.S. border, American fans are here in droves. It's a sea of red, white and blue. I want to the fan fest. We got some great goal celebrations from fans here to support their team. This women's World Cup is getting huge TV ratings.

That U.S. versus Germany semifinal match was record breaking. Average of 8.4 million viewers tuned in setting a new record for the most watched semifinal in U.S. history, women's or men's -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: My gosh, it's going to be so exciting. Even for those not huge soccer fans, something tells me they'll be in front of the television set at 7:00 Eastern Time tonight anyway rooting on Team USA. All right, Coy Wire, thank you so much with that front row seat. Have fun.

All right, the next hour of the CNN NEWSROOM right after this.