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Clinton Addresses E-Mail Controversy; China's Market Crashing; Subway Suspending Ties with Spokesman; Growing Epidemic of Heroin Use in America. Aired 10:30-11a ET

Aired July 08, 2015 - 10:30   ET

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[10:29:54] HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Previous secretaries of state have said they did the same thing. And people across the government knew that I used one device, maybe it was because I am not the most technically capable person and wanted to make it as easy as possible.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: But you said they did the same thing, that they used a personal server and --

CLINTON: Well, personal e-mail.

KEILAR: And it said in the subpoena, deleted e-mails from them?

CLINTON: You know, you're starting with so many assumptions -- I've never had a subpoena. There is nothing -- again, let's take a deep breath here. Everything I did was permitted by law and regulation. I had one device. When I mailed anybody in the government, it would go into the government's system.

Now, I didn't have to turn over anything. I chose to turn over 55,000 pages because I wanted to go above and beyond what was expected of me.

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ANA CABRERA, CNN ANCHOR: So Jeff, Clinton said this issue was, in her words, being used by Republicans in Congress for their purposes, being blown up with no basis in law or fact. We did a poll back in March that showed while half of Americans think it was wrong for her to just use personal e-mail, the same amount say it's no indication of her ability to be president. Is this a nonissue?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: It's not a nonissue, at least in the short term. And this is why. I mean she still faces a hearing, you know, with this committee that's been investigating the Benghazi terror attacks. And the chairman of that committee, Congressman from South Carolina, Congressman Trey Gowdy. He says that he did subpoena Secretary Clinton. So in that one respect when she said she has never been subpoenaed, that actually is not true.

We've asked the Clinton campaign for a comment on that this morning. We've not yet heard back from them. That's one sort of issue that she may not have been accurate on. But overall, that poll number there, that shows the pretty even split among the country on Hillary Clinton herself here. I'm not that surprised by that number.

We don't know if voters are that interested in the e-mail server, in the Benghazi thing. But there's no question that the use of the private e-mail server, this sort of veneer of transparency, that has led to some of the questions about why voters do not find her trustworthy and honest. Because of this private e-mail server and some other things here.

So this is going to be an issue that Republicans are going to keep hammering her on. It doesn't matter at the end of the day, we're not sure yet. But you can bet it will be an issue that will be talked about for months to come.

CABRERA: She has not been coronated as the Democratic nominee and we are seeing a surge in the polls for Bernie Sanders. I want to play a clip of her addressing his momentum.

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KEILAR: You're here in Iowa for a couple of events. You're the front-runner in this state but we're also Bernie Sanders attract a lot of attention. He's had big crowds here. 10,000 people in Wisconsin last week. 7,500 people in Maine last night.

Why is it, do you think, that someone who is a self-described Democratic socialist is really attracting this organic interest that your campaign seems to be struggling a little bit with?

CLINTON: Well, first of all, I always thought this would be a competitive race. So I am happy to have the chance to get out and run my campaign as I see fit and let other candidates do exactly the same.

I feel very good about where we are in Iowa. We are signing up thousands of volunteers, people committed to caucus for us. We have a committed supporter in every one of the 1,600 precincts.

And one of the things I learned last time is it's organize, organize, organize. And you've got to get people committed. And then they will follow through and then you bring more people. So I feel very good about where my campaign is.

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CABRERA: So maybe Clinton is looking at the glass half full in that answer. But earlier this week, her communications director did say that they're worried about Sanders saying, quote, "he is doing well".

So Nia, very quickly here, what sort of pivot could we see maybe from the Clinton campaign as a result?

NIA MALIKA HENDESON, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: You know, I mean they insist that they're going to run their own campaign. We'll, of course, see her on Monday, a rollout on economic message and we, of course, have seen that. We've seen that already from Bernie Sanders.

But I think her focusing there on really the methodical, almost door- to-door kind of grassroots organizing that was the hallmark of the Obama campaign, that's what they're proud of. When I talked to folks that are on the outskirts of this campaign who were also familiar with what she did in 2008, they say that's the big difference from this campaign.

It's very highly organized. It doesn't make for necessarily the best television visuals. But that kind of in the weeds, getting folks on board to this campaign, they think, will serve them very well in the long run.

CABRERA: All right. Nia-Malika Henderson and Jeff Zeleny -- our thanks to both of you.

ZELENY: Thanks.

[10:35:00] CABRERA: And still to come, changes at Subway sandwiches. The chain parting ways with it pitchman after an FBI raid.

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CABRERA: A quick update right now. These are live pictures from KABC in L.A. The FAA now telling us United Airline's ground stop of all its planes nationwide is over. A computer problem is what caused this whole mess but still no word on what triggered the computer problem in the first place. We will, of course, keep you posted. If anything changes in the traveling that we're seeing happening and as soon as we learn more information.

Stocks dropping in the U.S. and this is all because of news that China's market is tanking. Greece also playing a role here asking for yet another bailout. And you can see the Dow is now down 185 points. Alison Kosik is at the New York Stock Exchange for us with the latest. Alison?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Ana. It's sort of a situation where you pick your poison on what's plaguing the market today.

[10:40:02] Today it's about China, it's about Greece. All of that putting investors on edge. Greece for one because the Eurozone is holding Greece's feet to the fire, telling them, come up with a deal by Sunday or you're out of the euro.

As far as China goes, let's go ahead and look at a picture because I think a picture is worth a thousand words. I want to show you the Shanghai composite over the past three months. This is China's biggest stock index. We don't talk about it a lot because to be honest, there isn't a ton of U.S. cash in that stock market, but this crash is staggering when you look at that line going down.

That 30 percent drop that you see since early June, it erased $3.25 trillion in value -- that's trillion with a T. A little perspective though before you freak out. Despite this crash, the Shanghai composite even with this crash is still up 10 percent for the year -- Ana.

CABRERA: Why is China's market crashing?

KOSIK: That is a good question. You know, analysts point to several causes for this crash that seems sudden but it's actually been a few weeks in the making. One of the biggest reasons is because investors have been taking huge risks to invest in Chinese stocks. In fact they've been borrowing money to invest and when stocks began falling last month, many investors had to sell their investments to pay back those loans. That's of course, helped to fuel the crash in the Chinese stock market that we're seeing now. While the concern there is real among U.S. investors here, because of U.S. exposure to China's market, there's an even bigger concern than just the fluctuations in the Shanghai composite and the other stock indexes.

The biggest concern is what kind of impact that the fall in their stock markets will have on their already slowing economy because if the Chinese economy goes south, that could affect the U.S. economy because remember, China is our second biggest trading partner. And that's particularly why we're seeing investors on edge today -- Ana.

CABRERA: All right Alison Kosik -- thank you so much.

Now, the other story we're following, Subway suspending ties with sandwich pitchman Jared.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Remember Jared from subway? He's inspired a lot of people.

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CABRERA: That's right, the man known for taking off all that weight nearly 250 pounds by in part eating Subway sandwiches is no longer with the chain, at least not right now.

On Tuesday FBI agents raided the home of Jared Fogle. Authorities aren't discussing the investigation. Subway is saying it believes the probe has to do with one of Fogle's ex-employees who was previously arrested on federal child pornography charges. But it's important to point out here -- Fogle has not been arrested or charged with any crime.

Let's bring in CNN Money correspondent, Cristina Alesci. And of course for 15 years. We've all linked Jared and Subway together so what does this mean for their brand?

CRISTINA ALESCI, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: Well, look, the brand experts that I spoke to said whether a brand can recover really depends on two things: how it reacts to the scandal and more importantly whether its brand identity solely rests on that one person.

Now, on the first point, Subway reacted really quickly. 6:00 a.m., federal authorities were raiding his house. By noon we get a statement saying that the company is shocked and monitoring the situation. By 4:00 p.m., they drop him as a spokesperson. So even before federal authorities leave his house, we get the statement that the ties are severed between the two.

Now, also as to whether or not the brand really relies on Jared solely anymore, the brand experts that I spoke to said look, they have moved away from him, they've used other ad campaigns to promote this idea that they're the healthy alternative to fast food which is questionable. We don't know whether or not that's true.

But you know, on those two fronts, it looks like Subway will be able to recover. But an apples-to-apples comparison to any other celebrity spokesperson scandal is kind of difficult in this situation. First off, I can't think of any one case where the company suggests there's a tie to child pornography, which is very serious.

Also in this case, Jared's a normal guy. He's not a rock star. He's not an athlete. Whether we like it or not, people give more leeway to rock stars and actors and athletes, perhaps they think that they will be behave more badly than a regular person.

So on those two fronts, this makes it a little bit unusual. But let's just put it into context. Jared has been a huge success for Subway. I mean if you think about it they had --

CABRERA: He's the kind of guy you want to root for, you know. Everybody wants to be healthier. And you see what you've done to transform his life and then to hear his connection to any kind of crime possibly, it is a little bit alarming. Do you think that they'll just move on to another spokesperson?

[10:44:55] ALESCI: That's an excellent question. I think they're going to have to. And maybe this will cause some introspection as the company to say, "Maybe we don't need a spokesperson, maybe we need a couple of spokespeople to represent

something much larger so that we're not at risk with any one person -- exactly -- if you think about the growth story of this company, it's quite amazing. I don't know if you realize, but they're bigger than McDonald's. They have 3,000 to 4,000 stores, bigger than McDonalds. Bigger than Starbucks. And it looks like they're on a growth trajectory. We'll have to see what happens from here.

CABRERA: That does put it in perspective there. They're doing already for themselves. All right.

Cristina Alesci, thank you very much.

Still to come here on CNN, an alarming warning, heroin use in America is on the rise. Big-time. The breakdown of the CDC's new startling findings coming up next.

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CABRERA: A surprising trend, the Centers for Disease Control reporting that there's a growing epidemic of heroin use right now in America. And what's most surprising about this is who it's affecting, who's using heroin?

Let's bring in senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen to talk more about this. Elizabeth -- just how bad is it?

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Ana these numbers out from the CDC are really disturbing. Let's take a look at them. What the CDC has found is that since 2002, heroin overdose deaths have quadrupled. So in 2013, you see 8,200 deaths due to heroin overdoses.

And Ana, as you mentioned, there are some groups here that historically we haven't seen use heroin at high rates. Women, we're seeing big increases in heroin use among women, also among people with high incomes and also among people with high income and also among people with private insurance.

CABRERA: Wow. And I can speak to the woman side of things as you mentioned because I did an interview just last year with a mother of eight children, 18 grandchildren who was addicted to heroin for years and it all began for her with an addiction to pain pills. I want to you take a quick listen to what she had to say. We'll talk on the backside.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did you get it?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have picked up all over Denver, all of the suburbs.

CABRERA: Compare it for me in terms of price.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One oxycontin, 80 milligram, I could sell for $80. For $100 dollars I can get seven grahams in heroin. You know, in the beginning, it was a feel-good. At the end it was black. I was completely hallow inside. I couldn't laugh. I couldn't cry. I couldn't feel.

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CABRERA: So, Elizabeth, if pain addiction, pain pill addiction is part of the problem, what's it going to take to reverse this dangerous trend?

COHEN: It is. I mean unfortunately that woman's experience is somewhat typical that people get addicted to prescription pain medications and then when that prescription runs out or becomes too expensive, they go to heroin which unfortunately has become cheap and plentiful.

So there's got to ben attack on this problem on every level so the DEA continues to try to target the gangs that are bringing in the heroin. And then doctors in this country need to be careful about how they prescribe it, especially for people who have chronic pain that's going to go on and on and on. Do they keep prescribing oxycontin and pills like that? Do they try to find other alternatives? How do they know if this person is addicted? How do they know if this person is truly in pain?

This really puts doctors in a tough spot. CABRERA: All right. Elizabeth Cohen, at least awareness of the problem hopefully will help us put on the road to recovery here. We'll be right back. And again, we appreciate your time.

COHEN: Thanks.

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[10:52:03] CABRERA: A quick check of other top stories today. A couple being hailed as heroes after pulling a father of three from this burning car. They were driving home when they saw the car in flames and immediately ran to help. They pulled the man to safety. The driver thinks he actually passed out after smoke from his engine came through his air conditioning vents. They may have saved his life.

All right. The Simpsons fans rejoice, Harry Shearer, the voice of Mr. Brown, Ned Smithers and many others has signed on to stay with the show. He did say he was leaving previously but Shearer now has a new deal and the whole original cast will be back for season 27 in September.

A bear smashes a window at the Minnesota Zoo with a rock. Was it playing or was this a grizzly temper tantrum? Here here's Jeanne Moos.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: What's it sound like when a grizzly bear picks up a rock the size of a basketball and smashes the glass of his exhibits.

Now we've seen plenty of videos of kids being greeted by creatures with open mouths. But the glass always holds even when they hurl themselves at it. But when a grizzly believed to be one named Keen- eye launched a rock he found in his pond at the Minnesota Zoo, the glass shattered.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That bear was (INAUDIBLE) trespass repeatedly -- the rock bounced off the glass right back to him.

MOOS: He threw it five times says Robin Thicker by a lawyer who was visiting the exhibit and who has himself exhibited some animalistic behavior as a sports heckler. But KeenEye the grizzly wasn't being aggressive says Tony Fisher, the zoo's animal collection manager.

TONY FISHER, ANIMAL COLLECTION MANAGER: He was just playing with the rock.

MOOS: KeenEye is the bear is one of three orphaned brown bears transported from Alaska where Fisher says they might have died if humans hadn't taken them in.

Fischer: He is kind of a clown.

MOOS: But when the glass shattered, Robin Thicker didn't think the bear was clowning around.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Run, because we all thought that bear was coming through.

MOOS: The exhibit glass is 2 1/2 inches thick. The bear only managed to shatter one of five layers. The zoo says no one was ever in any danger. But don't tell that to Thicker.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was thinking, if he gets out, he's probably going to enjoy one of those nice tasty kids rather than an old grizzled piece of meat like me.

MOOS: Replacing the custom-made glass will cause tens of thousands of dollars. Zoos just have to put their money where the animals' mouths are. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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CABRERA: Thanks for being here today. Great to have you with us. I'm Ana Cabrera.

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