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[07:31:51] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: USA, USA --
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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, you heard there Donald Trump whispering to get the crowd to chant "USA, USA". Some protesters in the center of the crowd. Thousands of people there in Phoenix.
During the event, Trump took aim as expected at his critics and his opponents, continued to hammer on immigration. He also talked about rallying a new silent majority, frustrated with the direction of the country.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, the fate of Greece's financial future is hanging by a thread this morning. Eurozone members are deciding whether they're going to give the country that third bailout. The nation's banks, though, Greece, have already been closed for two weeks and so far, we're not hearing there is a deal anywhere in sight.
BLACKWELL: Today, Pope Francis' last day in South America. He is visiting a poor neighborhood in Paraguay's capital, Asuncion, or at least he will be. Then will head to a sports field to celebrate mass where thousands -- hundreds of thousands are expected to attend.
CNN's Rosa Flores joins us now live from Asuncion.
And I understand that people are there despite the rain. They've got on their boots, their ponchos, exciting for the pontiff's arrival.
ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Victor.
You're absolutely right. If you take a look around, you'll see people have umbrellas, ponchos, rubber boots. And if you look at the cloud cover, you can see that it's moving in. People here are hoping that it moves out because they're hoping to celebrate holy mass with the 78-year-old pontiff. Now, there's people here from every corner of Paraguay, even from
Argentina as well. But you won't people here from one specific poor neighborhood in Asuncion. That's why -- and that's because the pope is going to them this morning. As a matter of fact, he arrives there in about half an hour.
FLORES (voice-over): Asuncion Jimenez is known as grandma in the Banado Norte neighborhood of Paraguay's capital. The 78-year-old welcomes just about anyone into her home, never thinking Pope Francis would come knocking on her door one day.
(on camera): You feel an emotion inside.
(voice-over): The Vatican chose three people from this humble neighborhood for a one on one visit with Francis, according to organizers. And Asuncion is one of them.
(on camera): What are you going to ask the pope for?
She's hoping to ask the pope for peace, for tranquility for her family.
(voice-over): To prepare for her special guest, she says her son gave her home a fresh coat of paint and her daughter plans to help her cook for the pope.
(on camera): She has an open kitchen with a dirt floor and a corrugated metal roof. Now, this is her stove. This is where she plans to cook for Pope Francis. You can see it's open flame. And this is the dining table where she hopes to share a meal with the pontiff.
On the menu, a typical Paraguayan soup and mate, a traditional tea.
[07:35:04] (on camera): We're joking about how her -- this is probably really good and the pope is going to enjoy it.
Everyone on her block had been pitching in to prepare for the pope's visit, dressing Banado Norte with the colors of the Vatican and messages from some of its children, asking Pope Francis end to corruption and bring peace. Then, a question, asking him why God allows street children to suffer.
The last time a child asked the Holy Father a similar question, he hugged the girl, dropped his scripted message and spoke from the heart.
Francisca Ramirez is also expecting to visit with the pope and sing for him in her native Guarani. She and others in the neighborhood wonder why the leader of the Catholic Church would want to visit their humble homes and the tiny chapel where they pray. But during his tour through South America, Pope Francis has made one thing very clear -- the worries of the poor are a cross that everyone should bear.
FLORES: And as we take another live look here, you can see that the crowd keeps growing. They're coming from every corner of Paraguay and neighboring countries including Argentina. Vatican radio reporting that 1.5 million Argentineans could be here in Paraguay to give their pontiff a warm welcome -- Victor.
BLACKWELL: Rosa Flores, bringing us so much texture and context there.
Rosa, thank you so much.
PAUL: Let's bring in Father Edward Beck here.
Father, I'm wondering we've -- after that incredible report and the thousands of people you see who are going to see the pope today, I'm wondering when he's talking about this message of peace and helping the poor, how much of what he is advocating do you think in the long- term will linger with those people?
FATHER EDWARD BECK, CNN RELIGION COMMENTATOR: Well, these have been the strongest comments yet critiquing the world economic order and unfettered capitalism. And the poor, as you saw on that beautiful piece, the poor need to hear that message because they feel like they're forgotten. Pope Francis said the excesses of global capitalism are the dung of the devil. So, these are the strongest comment he has made yet. And, of course, they haven't been well- received by everybody because they're seen by some as Marxist or communist.
But according to Pope Francis, they are of the gospel. Care of the poor is essential for all Christians and all people who live according to the teaching of Jesus. And so, I think for them to hear that message that he is with them, that he's on their side, the side of the poor, it's a real reassuring one.
PAUL: It's reassuring for them. Do you think it will move people to change and do the things that he's advocating?
BECK: Well, again, greed is something very hard to overcome. And I think the message needs to be repeated again and again. But what Pope Francis is calling for is the poor themselves to kind of rise up, to not accept their conditions. And again, that's rather revolutionary kind of commandment if you will.
But if, in fact, if enough people come together to see the wisdom of that and the gospel mandate of that, then I think perhaps change can happen. He'll certainly be talking about it again here in the United States and I'm sure others are not going to want to hear that again.
PAUL: Yes, I wanted to ask you about that. How do you see his visit here in September and will he be focusing on the same things? And what do you see in terms of how the reaction will be to him? Will as many people be coming out here as we've seen there? BECK: I see maybe even many people coming out here. This is the center of unbridled capitalism and free markets. So, I think, certainly, you'll be hearing him speak about that again. I think you'll see Pope Francis challenging politicians with their legislation. I think he'll be challenging all of us how do we care for the least among us?
Is greed and wealth our god or can we accept something else? He said that, for Christians, the responsibility is even greater. It's a commandment. It's not only a moral obligation.
So, we're going to hear a lot more of that kind of language I think when it comes to the states.
PAUL: Father Beck, always so good to have your voice in the conversation. Thank you for taking the time.
BECK: Thank you.
PAUL: Of course.
BLACKWELL: Time running low now for Iran and the rest of the world. I wonder if they will now reach this deal as it relates to nuclear arms there. And if Secretary Kerry is going to come home on the other hand possibly empty-handed. We'll talk about that.
Also at the top of the hour, an update now to a story developing this morning that we're following, this notorious Mexican drug lord who's escaped again. We are now getting details about the escape from this major maximum security prison.
[07:43:28] PAUL: Secretary of State John Kerry sounding pretty positive this morning about getting a deal with Iran on its nuclear program secured. He talked to reporters as he left his hotel in Vienna for another marathon round of talks there. Yes, he's still on crutches, still recovering from that bicycle injury.
We want to get more on what Kerry said from CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robinson. And Nic is in Vienna.
Nic, I understand the French foreign minister spoke as well. What are they saying?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, the French foreign minister just arrived here, been in Paris working on the Greece issue. He said he hopes they're in the last phase of the talks at the moment, that he hopes they can get the result that everyone wants to get.
This is sort of the tone we've been getting and certainly this is something we heard from Secretary Kerry this morning as he left his hotel to go to church. Yesterday, he said that quite simply that tough choices remain. Now, he's talking as if there's some hope that a final deal could be in the works. This is what he said.
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JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: A very good meeting, positive. I think we're getting to some real decisions. So, I would say, even as we have a few tough things to do, I remain hopeful. Hopeful.
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ROBERTSON: Christi, with all the deadlines that have come and done, 30th of June, 7th of July, 10th of July, now another deadline, 13th of July tomorrow, Monday. The feeling is here are they really going to make a deadline? Are they really going to come up with something by then?
[07:45:01] But I think the sense is, obviously for negotiations, it is about everyone being convinced that a deadline is a real deadline. We've blown through so many. You do get the sense that whatever happens in the talks today, that there will be something tomorrow.
Whether or not it's a full agreement or some partial and the ball gets kicked down the road again. That's not clear.
PAUL: We understand too, Nic, that the Israeli prime minister is slamming these talks. What is he saying?
ROBERTSON: Yes. He has done all along. What we've heard from Benjamin Netanyahu is in essence that the longer Secretary Kerry has stayed here, the implication is that it's had to concede to Iran's demands.
The Israeli prime minister believes that Iran cannot be trusted. Supporters point to demonstrations just yesterday in Tehran where American and Israeli flags were being burned. He feels that the duration of time that Secretary Kerry has remained here involved in these talks means that he's conceded that it is not a good deal, not a good deal for the United States and not a good deal for the Israelis either, Christi.
PAUL: Iran had this new demand that the embargo be lifted. Kerry, as I understand it, said there's no way that's going to happen. Is that still one of the sticking points here?
ROBERTSON: You know, as far as we can tell, it is. You know, we don't get a detailed read out of what happens inside the meetings. I spoke with an Iranian official earlier on today. He told me, from his perspective, it is only political decisions in the way of getting an agreement. Therefore, a lot of the technical details have been hammered out.
But that is essentially a political agreement. We know for a fact that President Putin, the Russian side, the Chinese as well support Iran on getting those -- all sanctions including the arms embargo lifted. After all Russia does sell weapons and will likely sell more weapons to Iran if there is a deal here. So, you know, when you look at the P5+1, in fact, Secretary Kerry with
the sort of you know, the Russians, the Chinese, the British, French and Germans, he's trying to maintain a united, unified position. But the clock is ticking on that as well, when you hear things like that from the Russian president saying that he believes all sanctions should be lifted, a matter of when and how, but fundamentally, he believes the arms embargo should be lifted -- Christi.
PAUL: All right. Nic Robertson, so appreciate the update. Thank you.
BLACKWELL: You've got to see this video if you haven't yet. I mean, it's in the so much that this guy is driving the wrong way down this busy street in Los Angeles because he's gone the right direction. It's just backwards. Trunk first. Narrowly missing several cars, a pedestrian there, all caught on cell phone video.
Now, the question is who's driving and who's in the passenger seat here.
[07:51:33] BLACKWELL: Well, you know, Los Angeles streets are difficult enough to drive on. But imagine doing it in reverse. Yes, watch this. This driver did it for miles on some of L.A.'s busiest roads. The curviest, too. Cell phone from another car caught it all on video. And now, L.A. police are looking for this driver.
Peter Daut of CNN affiliate KCAL reports.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good evening, guys.
PETER DAUT, KCAL REPORTER (voice-over): You're looking at what the LAPD is calling some of the most reckless driving investigators have ever seen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow, dude.
DAUT: Cell phone video showing a car going backwards, all the way down Laurel Canyon Boulevard. Listen to reaction from a stunned witness who recorded what he could barely believe was happening.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This guy's going backwards on oncoming traffic. Amazing.
DAUT: The driver of the Audi staying in reverse for several minutes, and along windy turns.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Unbelievable!
DAUT: At one point the car appears to almost hit a pedestrian. Several times the Audi crosses the double yellow lines, narrowly missing oncoming traffic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Only in L.A.
DAUT: Watch what happens when the car eventually approaches busy Hollywood Boulevard.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow! Look what he's doing. Look what he's doing.
DAUT: Still in reverse the driver moves around other vehicles, and into the left turn lane.
KEVIN ZANAZANIAN, RECORDED VIDEO: Definitely was a shocker for me.
DAUT: Kevin Zanazanian recorded the video on his cell phone. The realtor says he first noticed the Audi around 4:45 Thursday afternoon, near Mulholland. He says there were two people in the car. A man behind the wheel, and a woman in the passenger seat.
ZANAZANIAN: It was definitely like a movie, and I just think that either this individual had an argument or a fight or something, or possibly just want to be a cool guy.
DAUT: We showed the video to LAPD investigators, who say the driver could be arrested for numerous charges.
SGT. TITO MARIANO, LOS ANGELES POLICE: Reckless driving, unsafe speed, crossing double yellow lines, failing to drive on the right half of the roadway.
DAUT: And given the numerous close calls, police say it's incredible no one was hurt.
MARIANO: Imagine if your family member is being struck by someone doing something irresponsible.
BLACKWELL: Hmm. Our thanks to Peter Daut of CNN affiliate KCAL for that report.
PAUL: Well, Donald Trump taking his stance on immigration to Arizona, where the presidential candidate gave a speech to thousands of people. I mean the lines snaked around the corners of buildings in downtown. And some of them didn't even get in.
We're going to talk about how the GOP maybe reacting to this pretty significant turnout. Stay close.
PAUL: Well, it is number one versus number two in an epic Wimbledon men's final.
BLACKWELL: But is this the greatest rivalry in sports?
BLACKWELL: Let's find out. Let's bring in Coy Wire. COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS: We asked our NEW DAY friends and they have
spoken. We'll get to you responses in a second. Guys, this is a cool backdrop.
BLACKWELL: It is kind of fancy.
WIRE: Seven-time Wimbledon champ Roger Federer will take on defending champ Novak Djokovic on center court starting at 9:00 Eastern. Now, if Federer wins, he will hold two records, most Wimbledon titles, and the oldest to hold the title. He's 33 years old.
Djokovic, on the other hand, is the favorite to win. He's looking for his ninth grand slam title. This is their 40th meeting. Federer is up 20-19. Now, these two have become formidable foes and epic rivalry so last hour, we asked you what's the greatest sports rivalry of all time?
Answers came pouring in. Let's take a look at them.
Marcel says "Djoker versus Roger Federer, tennis." This is it. OK.
The next one, how about Ali and Foreman rumble in the jungle bout in Zaire 1974.
Lourdes says, "Yankees versus Red Sox." I'm wearing red sox today, by the way.
PAUL: Not nice.
WIRE: "Even though we know the boys in blue are the best."
Here's some more, Jeremy, this is this may be the favorite, "Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals."
Thanks so much for your participation. You guys really came with answers today. Now, Howard, Toledo, do you remember your rivalries?
PAUL: Bowling Green.
WIRE: Bowling Green?
WIRE: They were heated?
BLACKWELL: Although I would say that Baltimore versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, they're --
PAUL: Well, that's -- see the Browns versus --
BLACKWELL: Oh, yes, that's true. That's true.
WIRE: I do have to give a shout-out Bob tweeted Stanford Cal. And that is heated. Remember the band scene. And having been a Stanford Cardinal guy that resonated with me.
PAUL: Oh, yes.
Thank you. That was fun.
WIRE: My pleasure.
BLACKWELL: Thanks, Coy.
PAUL: Always good to see you, Coy.
WIRE: You too.
Hey, thank you so much for starting your morning with us.
BLACKWELL: Your NEW DAY continues right now.
BLACKWELL: Yes, in front of this crowd of thousands, Donald Trump keeps hammering the illegal immigration issue, but he's not stopping there, calling American leaders, some of them, stupid. Will this lead him to the White House?
PAUL: Developing at this hour, a massive manhunt for a notorious drug kingpin from Mexico. Joaquin Guzman better known as El Chapo now on the loose after escaping from a maximum security prison.
It's always so good to have your company. Thank you for being here. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to start a Sunday morning with you.
PAUL: Developing this hour: one of the world's most powerful drug lords we were just telling about has done what Mexican authorities promised would not happen again.