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Bill Cosby Admits to Pursuing Younger Women; Donald Trump Refuses to Apologize for McCain Comments; New Developments in El Chapo Manhunt; Friends and Family Mourning Those Killed in Chattanooga Shooting Rampage; John Kerry and Ernest Moniz Defend Iran Deal. Aired 3-4p ET

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[15:00:00] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: You actually saw the fins just splash around so closely to the board. Does it give you the impression it may have taken a little, you know, bite, a little sampling of the end of the board there. And you know, you could see right there the tip of the board kind of goes up. I mean, I you have looked over and over again. But what do you envision happened like -- boy right there.

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JEFF CORWIN, HOST, OCEAN MYSTERIES, ABC: Yes. We talked about this before about how sharks will do these test bites. I actually wasn't seeing a test bite. I think we have a number of things happening here. I think we have mistaken identity. The shark thinks that may be potential prey like a first seal. It moves in to investigate. And as the surfer just indicated he felt something get tangled up in its line. I think the shark got a little confused and a little frightened and caught up in the moment. Trust me it was a very big shark. If it wanted to fight and inflight injury and be a predator it had ample opportunity.

Both I think creatures, both apex predators, human being and shark kind of swim away from this moment all shook up.

WHITFIELD: My God. Isn't he lucky though as he swimming away there and waving for the jet-ski like come on, hurry up?

CORWIN: He's incredible. This is the thought for every nightmare for everyone who has a phobia for sharks. But again and I told you this before, you're in the waters, especially in places like South Africa but around the world, if you're in a healthy marine ,ecosystem you're never more than 100 yards away from a shark. So we share this eco system with them. And rarely does it end up in injurious, dangerous sort of situation. He walked away unscathed but I bet he's thinking twice before he gets on a surf board again.

WHITFIELD: I know. I'm happy for him, though. Thank goodness.

All right, Jeff Corwin, thank you so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

CORWIN: Thanks, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. We have so much more straight ahead in the NEWSROOM. It all starts right now.

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WHITFIELD: Happening now in the NEWSROOM.

Bill Cosby, according to a scathing "New York Times" report admits in a deposition to pursuing younger women.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is not just an interview, this is something that he said knowing he had to tell the truth.

WHITFIELD: Details on the court documents describing his sexual pursuits, the drugs, and how he tried to keep it all under wraps from his wife.

Plus Donald Trump not dropping out and not backing down.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm certainly not pulling out. I'm leading in many states.

WHITFIELD: Trump even tweeting today that it is Senator John McCain who should apologize.

And new details revealing the gunman who opened fire on a Tennessee military recruiting center may have been suffering from depression. His family saying today he was not the son they knew and loved.

NEWSROOM starts now.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Hello again, everyone. Thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

We begin with new developments in the Bill Cosby saga. A short time ago, his publicist told CNN no comment in regards to what some believe are startling revelations from Cosby himself. The comedian reveals in his own words in a 2005 deposition said that he pursued younger women for sexual relationships and he obtained the sedative Quaaludes to give to young women all while trying to keep it a secret from his wife.

This new information was originally reported by the "New York Times". CNN has now obtained a copy of the full transcript of the deposition Cosby gave a decade ago in a civil suit filed by one much his accusers. CNN is currently going through the 1,000 page deposition.

CNN's Jean Casarez joining us live now from New York. She has been on the story from the start.

And Jean, you have been reading through this deposition. What more are you learning? JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very, very detailed. He

gave this under oath. This is a sworn deposition. It is part of the one civil case back in 2005, Andrea Constand which resulted in a sealed confidential settlement. But the "New York Times" came out with a detail also written on this deposition. And the headline really is that, I've been a lot of women. All behind my wife's back. But they were consensual affairs. Drugs were involved but at all times it was consensual.

And he talks about the fact and I read this for myself, that there was one woman whose father had cancer and he acted very interested in her father being sick so that he could draw her in.

I want to show everybody one thing that comes from this deposition. Let me read this. And then I will explain it. It says quote "I think that I'm a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in these romantic sexual things whatever you want to call them." He said he would always be able to tell if a woman was consenting to what they were about to do and if he didn't see that consent he stopped. He also said that he did not partake in full sexual relations with women because he didn't want them to fall in love with him. And so, it was just light hearted sexual fun.

But we have something else that he said where the word sex is used, and remember this is the attorney for Andrea Constand at the time asking questions, but she's also talking about Jane Doe witnesses and that's what this is in regard, to Jane Doe witness was another alleged victim that said I'll testify if I need in 2005.

Here's the question. Now she says in her police report that on the first time she met you, that you took her to the green room. You were alone and that you gave her Quaaludes and a glass of water and told her to take them. She took the drugs and that he had sex with me. The witness stated that she felt she had been taken advantage of and told her mother what had happened. The victim believed she was initially star struck by Cosby. She believed that her fame and position, I guess that means his fame and position projected authority.

Did that occur? Mr. Cosby's answer that's her saying that. If you read, if you'll strike out what she believes then we can deal with the two of us.

Question fine did you give her Quaaludes? Answer yes. Did you take Quaaludes? Answer, no.

And so, Fred, I think that demonstrates at least with this particular incident that a woman was taking the drug and he was not. But once again, he says that this is all consensual activity. That I did. And it's very, very detailed, four different deposition dates in 2005 over a thousand pages.

[15:05:40] WHITFIELD: And then again, Jean, explain how it is that CNN has been able to obtain the transcripts of this deposition when it was considered sealed and had been reported for a very long time that it was sealed and now suddenly unsealed, available. CASAREZ: Every jurisdiction does it differently, but in the state of

Pennsylvania a court reporter takes the deposition. They don't own it. They give to it a court reporter service which then in essence owns the deposition. If you want to get any deposition, you call them up and you ask for it. And they will readily give it to you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Let me bring in CNN legal analyst Joey Jackson and Mo Ivory attorney and radio host here in Atlanta with me.

So I wonder, Joey, can you speak to whether there may be some repercussions that this service would make this transcript, the deposition available if the attorneys on both sides had an understanding that it would be sealed?

JOEY JACKSON, HLN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I think there's a couple of problems with that, Fredricka. The first problem is remember that a judge has ruled on the issue. And with the judge ruling on the issue there were motions filed by both sides. Of course, Bill Cosby wanting that deposition and his team to be kept private and, of course, the other side saying it should be public for public consumption.

A judge has made a decision that the public interest outweighs his independent and private interest from embarrassment. No, the judge said if you put yourself in the position of a public moralist and you put yourself in the position of moralizing about issues, which is in contrast to what this accusation is, then it should be made private.

And so, I think the first problem with going after that service is that there's a ruling that says it's public for all to see.

The second issue is, as Jean has mentioned, it's a, you know, private service. As a result of that, this is what they get. They do the transcripts. If there's a request made and no pending order to them that gives an indication it shouldn't be released and its fair game for it to be released.

WHITFIELD: OK. And so, I wonder, Mo, how do you see this as added arsenal in the case of the defamation suits that are still pending against Bill Cosby and any other cases that are being investigated to see if the statute of limitations has not run out in some of the other allegations.

MO IVORY, ATTORNEY: Sure. Well, I don't think much in this deposition is shocking to our conscience at this points because I think it just adds to what we think we already know happened which is that he was giving women Quaaludes in order to have sex. It doesn't change the idea he says it still was all consensual.

But when you have added - when you have one person saying it and then another person and then his own admissions adding on to it, it only supports the case even more. But again, there's still very limited remedies for these women. There's the defamation possibilities and then the one woman in the playboy incident that was in near in 2008 that may be the statute of limitations is not up yet. And who yet to know whether that will be able to happen. But what I think this does to sort of the court of public opinion,

again the one question that I continue to hear when I talk about this on the radio and the question I hear amongst people I talk, to why would Bill Cosby already a famous man need to drug women to have sex? So then you just have to say to yourself, well, obviously this was an illness that Bill Cosby had. And that he was able to mask with his fame and with, you know, all the people around him that were protecting him. If the National Inquirer wanted to break it, he would pay them and say no. I'll do another story. I will give you another story to break, you know.

So he was making deals all along the way to keep this information away from the public and he just, you know, ran up the time to be able to keep it -- not available to the public.

[15:10:12] WHITFIELD: And Jean, you've been covering this, really, from the beginning and even as you read the details of this deposition, the use of drugs, calling it consensual sex, inviting him to his home, he was even , you know, asked how did you get these women to come. And he said I invited them to my home. But there's some real common denominators, aren't there? And perhaps you can help remind us of these common threads that we're hearing in the case of other women, up what, 20 women that alleged something very similar that he took advantage of them, that there were promises of fame or considering him to be a real mentor and the next thing you know then it evolved into allegations of rape.

CASAREZ: And the threads are very similar exactly what you're saying right there. And the threads are that it involved alcohol, that it involved drugs. And I think a lot of the women consensually were with him and I mean physically with him. But then they all say that they woke up or at some point realized that the consent had ended but the activity had continued. And that's the line right there that they disagree with Bill Cosby in this 1,000 page deposition.

WHITFIELD: And then Joey, help, you know, explain what the lawyers mean when they allow their client or the client says consensual. What part of this was consensual? Like Jean said, consensually, you know, in his presence thinking he's a mentor, et cetera. But then when you talk about the introduction or admission of Quaaludes, what could be consented after the use of that?

JACKSON: Sure. That's a very good point. Fabulous point. And there's really two things to discuss. The first thing is I think it leads to the public outrage, first if you examine the relationship, mentor to mentee, teacher to student, famous person to someone who is aspiring to be famous. And so, whenever you have a disparity relationship like that, when one is clearly unequal, you can take advantage of someone to begin with. And then, of course, you introduce drugs into it and it becomes further an unequal relationship which I think is very damaging.

And then, of course, directly to your question, look when it comes to drugs and the introduction of drugs in any type of scenario, you would lose your ability to consent. You give someone drugs and, you know, clearly, you can ask well why would he be introducing drugs? I think the obvious question would be because then it would allow him to more be in a different position or better position to take advantage of them.

And so, I think clearly the cases against that are being raised here could be compelling. The bigger problem, tough, is the time frame, the statute of limitations. And as a result of that for both civil and criminal claims, it is really problematic.

IVORY: When you ask about consent, though, I think what Cosby attorneys are constantly saying the consent was, here take these pills and then the women would say OK. And we heard that similar thread throughout this whole scenario. So I think that consent that they keep pointing to is that the women consented to taking the drugs, which a lot of them did and then from where we can't get past is what happens after. But that consent that they are referring to is the consent, drugs, OK I'll take them.

WHITFIELD: Except some of the women are saying it was everything from Benadryl to my interview with (INAUDIBLE) is that it was something to leave menstrual cramp. So I mean, did they know it was Quaaludes?

JACKSON: Fred, of course, it's one thing, as Mo says, to -- Fred it's one thing as Mo says to consent to saying OK I'll take a Quaalude, I will take Benadryl. It is quite another thing to say I'll consent to some act that you want to engage in with me thereafter. And that's the critical question.

WHITFIELD: All right. And of course a critical question too, you know, is at this point deposition, should there be an acknowledgement from Bill Cosby? Shouldn't there even be an apology? And if so, if not, what does that mean next?

All right, good to see all of you. We are going to talk about some more later on.

Thank you, Mo Ivory, Jean Casarez and Joey Jackson.

Al right, also, coming up, Donald Trump is not backing away from his statements about John McCain's status as a war here. In Fact, he says he is not the one who needs to apologize. Next, what the Donald is saying now.

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[15:17:30] WHITFIELD: All Right, Donald Trump says he doesn't owe Senator John McCain an apology. This morning on ABC "This Week" Trump refused to walk back his comment yesterday that John McCain is not a war hero. Instead, he argued McCain is the one who should apologize.

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TRUMP: This all started, Martha, when we had thousands and thousands of people in Phoenix, Arizona, who by the way are devastated by illegal immigration, something I'm very proud to have brought to the forefront. We have thousands of people, and he said they are all crazies. He called them crazies. And frankly, I think he owes them an apology.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Joining me right now from the White House is Sunlen Serfaty.

So Sunlen, Trump remained defiant, Didn't he?

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Fred. He did and he really spent most of the day today really digging in even more offering no apologies there and also refusing all those calls from other Republican candidates that he should drop out of the presidential race. Here's more of what Trump said today on ABC's "This Week."

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Do you owe John McCain an apology?

TRUMP: No, not at all. I believe that I will do far more for veterans than John McCain has done for many, many years with all talk no action. He's on television all the time, talking, talking no, thing gets done.

You look at what's happening to our veterans. They are getting decimated, OK. So I will do far more for veterans than anybody. I will be able can build new hospitals. I will be able to build them care centers. I will be able to help the veterans.

John McCain has failed because all you have to do is take a look what you report on all the time, take a look at the scandal at the veterans administration and the disastrous conditions under which our veterans have to live. And believe me. I built with a signal group a Vietnam memorial in downtown Manhattan. I know what is it to help people and I know what it is to help veterans.

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SERFATY: And many has been coming to the defense of Senator John McCain in his service to the nation. The former senator being a former Navy fighter pilot who shot down and imprisoned and tortured for five years in a prison in Hanoi who refused early release and then later went on to win the purple heart.

But this controversy certainly has given many Republicans the opening that many were just waiting for to be able to more open in their criticism against Donald Trump, some even saying that these latest comments should disqualify him from running for president.

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SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's not just absurd it's offensive, it's ridiculous. And I do think it is a disqualifier as a commander-in-chief.

[15:20:01] RICK PERRY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Until Mr. Trump apologizes directly to John McCain and also to the veterans of this country, I don't think he has the character or the temperament to hold the highest position in this country.

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SERFATY: And the RNC who rarely gets involved in these sort of primary battles and taking on candidates directly they did issue a statement yesterday saying that there's no place in the party for comments like Trump's. Now, we have not heard yet from Senator John McCain. He has been silent since Trump made these remarks. But we did hear, Fred, from his daughter Megan McCain. She said that she is horrified and disgusted by Trump's rhetoric.

WHITFIELD: All right. Sunlen Serfaty at the White House, thank you so much.

All right, still ahead, a new lead emerging in the hunt for notorious drug kingpin El Chapo. Polo Sandoval has the details from Mexico City next.

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[15:24:35] WHITFIELD: All right. We're following new developments in the hunt for Mexican drug lord El Chapo Guzman. Investigators could actually be a step closer to finding him and it want has to do with a set of prison blueprints.

CNN's Pablo Sandoval joins me now with details from Mexican City.

So, do investigators feel a little bit more confidently that these blueprints had something to do with his escape?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I can tell you, Fred, that this is what they call and describe as their strongest lead yet. Mexican prosecutors yesterday saying they are now investigating and really questioning the director of maintenance at the Altipano (ph) prison. They believe he may have actually given access to somebody, those actual floor plans. So what does that truly mean?

I can tell you that now with a week on the run there's plenty of speculation here in Mexico, particularly here in Mexico City. I had the opportunity speak to a civil engineer just this morning. And I asked him what it could mean or how just the access to those floor plans would actually help in the digging of this tunnel. Again, his theory here, is that it may have facilitated or at least helped those folks to track down the very spot where they should basically cut into his cell because think about it. Once you have an idea of where cell number 20 is, El Chapo Guzman's cell, then all you have to do is actually locate the water lines that run in and out of that shower line and then you simply have to cut in.

So again, that could tell us more about how these plans could have been used if in fact they were released illegally to somebody. And then also feeding speculation at this hour, Fred, is that Mexican prosecutors are now saying that Guzman likely had access to some sort of device that would have transmitted his actual GPS location to the outside. It sounds extremely outlandish, extremely wild here but think about it. If you're the head of a billion dollar drug smuggling organization everything is possible, Fred.

WHITFIELD: And then what's the latest on those that have been arrested?

SANDOVAL: We know that at least seven prison employees have been arrested. They were the first to be charged in connection to this escape. And now we are being told again as you mentioned, Francisco Liseca (ph), he is the director of maintenance. He is being questioned. Tomorrow, we could find out if he is now the latest to be charged in connection to this case as we do expect more arrests in the days ahead.

WHITFIELD: All right. Polo Sandoval in Mexico City, thank you so much.

All right. When we come back, the family of the Chattanooga gunman revealing new details about his mental state.

CNN Boris Sanchez is live with more -- Boris.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Certain word in that statement offering a possible shift in perspective on the motive for this shooting. We'll explain next.

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[15:30:23] WHITFIELD: All right. Hello again everyone and thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

Family and friends are mourning the loss of those five service members killed in a rampage on the military recruiting centers in Chattanooga, Tennessee. They gather today to place flowers, notes, and makeshift memorials. The mother of one of the victims, Navy petty officer Randall Smith was overcome with emotion.

Meanwhile, we are learning new information about the shooter, the family of Mohammad Abdulazeez is revealing details about his mental state before Thursday's deadly attack on the two military facilities.

CNN Boris Sanchez is covering it all for us from Chattanooga -- Boris.

SANCHEZ: Hey Fred, that's correct. Mother of Randall Smith came here to the memorial earlier today. She was visibly emotional and she was distraught when she saw a picture of her son in the memorial. I got a chance to talk to her. She said she was overwhelmed with the amount of support that she had seen from the community supporting her son and the other victims. But then she became visibly emotional and I asked her about the status of the family how they were holding up.

We're hearing from the family of the shooter today, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez. They put out a statement offering condolences for those killed by their son. And they write quote "there are no words to describe our shock, horror and grief. The person who committed this horrible crime was not the son we knew and loved. For many years our son suffered from depression. It grieves us beyond belief to know that his pain found its expression in his heinous act of violence."

That specific tidbit about depression leading many to wonder if this is more than just a jihadist, if he maybe had a mental illness and that perhaps led him to do something so extreme, Fred.

WHITFIELD: Then Boris there's the text message, God, I think -- we're losing our signal there with Boris. We'll try to reconnect a bit later on when we think we have a stronger signal.

All right, Boris Sanchez thank you so much in Chattanooga.

All right, no. I understand we do have him.

OK, Boris, I'm going to ask you a question. Hopefully I got you. Let's talk about this text message that he sent to a friend and what's being analyzed.

SANCHEZ: What we're hearing from investigators is that he sent a message to a friend in response to something a friend had sent him. They were having a conversation in that conversation he wrote who so whoever shows amity to a friend of mine, then I have declared war on him. That's a quote attributed from Mohammad from a holy Islamic text.

Investigators are telling us, though, this is important that because of the context of the conversation, they do not believe that this was a foreshadowing or forewarning of what was to come. They say it's just a small piece of a much bigger picture trying to figure out the gunman's motive.

WHITFIELD: All right. So complex. Thank you so much Boris Sanchez in Chattanooga.

All right. Next, the Iran nuclear deal is in the hands of Congress as the secretary of defense heads to Israel. So will Ash Carter be able to reassure Israel that this is a good deal? We'll find out next.

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[15:37:05] WHITFIELD: All right. The Iran nuclear deal is now in lawmakers hands. The U.S. state department sent the agreement to U.S. Congress today. And today on "STATE OF THE UNION" with Jake Tapper, secretary of state John Kerry and the U.S. energy secretary defended the deal yet again calling it absolutely critical.

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JOHN KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I disagree with him but I just yesterday met with the foreign minister of Saudi Arabia who said on television that if they want a deal and if the deal does the things, they listed things that the deal does then they would feel very comfortable with it.

The fact is that the real fear of that region should be that you don't have the deal. If Congress doesn't pass this, if Congress were to kill this, then we have no inspections, we have no sanctions, we have no ability to negotiate because I assure you the Ayatollah if the United States arbitrarily and unilaterally kills this you won't have another negotiation.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: I spoke a lot of experts who want this deal to be good, who were rooting for you and they said the best case scenario is that over the next 15 years, with the $100 billion from the money that has no longer - that will no longer be covered under sanctions, Iranians will be closer to the capacity to build a nuclear weapon with the $100 billion that they now will have after sanctions are lifted and they will have done it all under the guise of international law.

KERRY: You see, the reason that's not accurate about what will happen is that today we don't have those inspections. We do now under the interim agreement, but before the interim agreement we didn't have them. We didn't that have ability to know what they were doing. And guess what, my friend? Iran had 12,000 kilograms of highly enriched uranium and that's enough, if they risk it further for 10 to 12 bombs. They had it.

That's what Barack Obama dealt as a hand when he came in, 19,000 centrifuges already spinning. A country that already mastered the fuel cycle. A company that already was on the threshold in the sense that they are only two months from break out. So we're expanding that break out from those two months to one year for ten years and longer. And we have lifetime inspection adherence to the IAEA, adherence to the advance protocol, 25 years of tracking and monitoring their uranium for mining to milling to yellow cake to gas to centrifuge to waste. That's unprecedented. And we would not have had that without this agreement.

But the simple reality is, Jake, this U.N. process that started the -- that allowed the sanctions to be put in place in the fir place contemplated the lifting of all sanctions once Iran had lived up to its obligations with respect to the MPTs.

So if the IAEA found in x number of years that they lived up to this then all the sanctions would be gone. So we, in fact, we succeed against three countries that didn't think they should have to do anything. So we have a lot of measures and the United States always has the ability to take action unilaterally or otherwise with respect to other activities.

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[15:40:23] WHITFIELD: All right. The U.S. state department's move today means the 60 day clock for lawmakers, U.S. lawmakers to review the agreement starts tomorrow. President Obama has said that he will veto any measure that would stop the deal from going into effect.

Meantime, defense secretary Ash Carter is on his way to the Middle East. He's scheduled to land in Israel within the hour. He'll be visiting some of America's closest allies, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, trying to smooth over concerns that the deal will give Iran more wealth and power to do little to curb its nuclear program.

Let me bring in Jim Walsh. She is an international security expert. Good to see you, Jim.

JIM WALSH, INTERNATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST, MIT: Good to see you, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. So what can Carter say to Israel to perhaps win more support for this deal?

WALSH: Well, I think he'll meet with two different groups in Israel. He'll meet with the politicians, President Netanyahu and other cabinet ministers and they are just going to chew his ear off and there's nothing he can say that is going to make them happy.

But he will also meet with Intel and military people in Israel and they have a very different view of this agreement. In fact if you look at current Israeli military assessments as they project out over years and factor in an agreement they see themselves in a better position in terms of Israel national security going forward.

They like the idea that, you know, we may double the number of inspectors and that Iran is going to be under lock and key for that period of time. So they are much more supportive of it. But I don't think there's any convincing Benjamin Netanyahu, you know. I think he's pretty firm in his views.

WHITFIELD: And so, you heard Kerry say without the deal there would be no inspections, there would be no sanctions and so Iran would be able to continue doing whatever it is that it's doing unchecked. Is that really the only point that needs to be made to remind countries in that region especially during Ash Carter's Middle Eastern tour?

WALSH: Yes. I think that's fundamental. I mean, I would go - so, the Saudis don't like this deal because they don't like Iran. It is not about nuclear. It is because they are wrapped in this big rivalry that's embroiling the region. And they like sanctions just because that keeps Iran down. But they don't really care about the nuclear.

I think for all the countries in the Middle East, it's in their national security interest to block Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. You know, I mean, it's good for us and it's good for them and this deal does that. You know, I've looked at a bunch of different deals over time and this is not our first rodeo. This is not our first nonproliferation agreement. We had one with Moammar Gadhafi who hated Israel and funded terrorism. We had it with the soviets and they had gulags. I think this 159 pages is arguably the toughest most intrusive agreement of its kind.

WHITFIELD: And then how does the U.S. argue against the fact that with sanctions lifted Iran will regain some wealth and could potentially become a lot more influential in the region?

WALSH: I mean, it could. They are sort of bogged down in Syria right now and they are bogged down in Iraq fighting ISIS which is what them to do. But I mean, they are going to get some sanctions relief. But I don't understand the logic of this argument. If you don't like Iran with terrorism, why would you like Iran with terrorism and nuclear weapons? The people who say let's not give them a dollar because it might end

up supporting Hezbollah, what they are saying no nuclear agreement, right? We shouldn't have any nuclear agreement because there's no agreement conceivable where they do what we want them to do on nuclear. They do what we tell them and then they get nothing in return. There is no planet on which that agreement is possible. So if you're saying no what you're doing is say unconstrained nuclear program in Iran. Iran does the terrorism and it has nuclear weapons. I think that's a terrible outcome.

WHITFIELD: And I know you rather talk about the science behind this, but, of course, there's also the politics. And if Congress has 60 days to review this and the president said he would veto anything that would stand in the way of this deal going forward, what could potentially be offered? What would be an idea offered by Congress for those members who don't necessarily like the way it's written as such?

WALSH: Well I think there will be negotiations and consultations. I would love to see Congress take an active role in this. It's Congress that helped us get to this point. They should take credit for that. And they should have an active role going forward. A colleague suggested setting up sort of a commission in which members of Congress participate to help ensure this deal is being implemented and they could go the IAEA. They could go to Iraq.

Second thing they could do, make sure the International Atomic Energy Agency, the IAEA, has the resources it needs because this is going to be a big job. But every dollar they spend is a win for us.

WHITFIELD: All right. Jim Walsh, thank you so much.

WALSH: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back.

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[15:48:39] WHITFIELD: All right. New developments today in the sexual assault accusations surrounding Bill Cosby. In a deposition from ten years ago which has been obtained by CNN Cosby admits to using his fame and drugs to have sex with young women. Cosby responded with no comment to CNN when asked about it today.

At the time of the deposition, however, Cosby was defending himself against a lawsuit filed by a young woman Andrea Constand who accused him of drugging her and then sexually assaulting her.

In part of his testimony, Cosby said quote "I think that I'm a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in these romantic sexual things, whatever you want to call them."

And of course that case was settled in 2006. So far more than 25 women have accused Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting them. Super model Janice Dickinson is one of the Cosby accusers who is gone publicly her story. And I sat down with her in her home back in December and asked what happened when she had dinner Cosby 33 years ago.

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WHITFIELD: Bill Cosby did reach out to you in 1982. What was the conversation? What was the picture he painted for you that you said even though I am a supermodel right now, and my career is taking off, he's the connection I need for it to go even further? What was promised? Did you believe?

[15:50:03] JANICE DICKINSON, SUPERMODEL: Well, I believe the tone of this voice. How are you? I'm going to offer you a part on the Cosby show. I want you to fly here, and you know, get here, you know, in the next day or two. I took the bait. I jumped at this opportunity.

WHITFIELD: You were excited.

DICKINSON: I was so psyched. I was just raring and ready to go. He also promised me, I hear you want a singing career, I can help you with that. So when I arrived (INAUDIBLE), I was met by Bill and a gentleman that worked for him named Stew Garner (ph). Stooby (ph) as his name was. And he was his musical director. And I got -- I remember him saying to me at this dinner when he offered me red wine, what kind of man offers me red wine when I get out of rehab. I was susceptible and very nervous and excited.

WHITFIELD: He knew about your situation, how fragile -- potentially fragile you were at the time.

DICKINSON: He called me in rehab. He knew what I was -- what I was in rehab for, for alcohol. So that in itself is really messed up.

WHITFIELD: And at what point did you find yourself alone with Mr. Cosby, you trusted him, but then things went a different direction in your view?

DICKINSON: Mr. Garner left the dinner table. I was alone with him. And I had menstrual cramps, I had - my stomach cramps. He said, I've got something for that and he gave me a pill.

WHITFIELD: Did you ask what it was?

DICKINSON: I don't remember that. I don't remember. But if he's giving me a pill, I trust the guy. I trusted Bill Cosby, so he gave me --.

WHITFIELD: Why did you feel like you trusted him?

DICKINSON: Because of his demeanor and the promise of a career. And you know, I trusted him. I wanted a television career. I had had a successful career for commercials. I wanted to take it to the next level.

WHITFIELD: And at the same time though, you're telling me you were in rehab, you were still very fragile, he offered you wine. That was a no-no in your view. But now he offers you a pill and you still trust him? DICKINSON: It was red wine. It was a pill. And then when I started

to blackout, I had a Polaroid camera on me. That's when I took several photographs with the Polaroid when I had one of the first Polaroid cameras. And you know, I just remember shooting these pictures and having them on me in my room the next morning when I woke up. The last thing I remember, I had blacked out and Cosby mounting me like the monster that he was. And I was thinking what the heck -- what the -- I just remember passing out. And I remember more specifically waking up and that he -- there was a lot of pain downstairs. There was semen all over me and that my pajamas bottoms were off and the top was open. And at that point, fighter flake, I just packed up and I got the hell out of there.

WHITFIELD: How do you prove that? How do you prove that when it's your word against his?

DICKINSON: I should have gone to the police. Once again, I was too embarrassed and was too disgusted. And I was afraid for my career so I moved out. Look how it's blown up now on me. I'm being slandered and called that I lie. (Bleep) attorneys. I'm not lying. You weren't there. I can prove it Polaroid. Put a lie detector test on me and put a lie detector test on the attorneys and put a lie detector test on Mr. Bill "monster" Cosby.

WHITFIELD: How much has hearing from the other women who allege sexual assault by Bill Cosby, he details of it given, how much does that assisted you in coming out and talking publicly about what happened to you in 1982? How much does that also helped you in recalling in detail what happened to you in 1982?

DICKINSON: I remember the memory. I remember the loss of -- being robbed of my innocence. And I believe the women that I haven't been in contact with. But I believe their story because it was exactly the same thing that happened to me. While I can't speak for them as a whole, I can only speak for myself as an individual. And as an individual woman, I am Janice Dickenson and I am the world's first super model. And this took place in 1982. It took place in a hotel room in Tahoe and that Cosby was wearing bath robe with patch word (INAUDIBLE). And he was wearing a gold watch. And I didn't do the right thing. I didn't report it. I didn't go to rain counselling. And you know what? I was afraid. But I'm not afraid anymore. So I'm now strong and I have support and I will go on with my story until my last breath.

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[15:55:00] WHITFIELD: And Janice Dickinson cannot file criminal charges because the statute of limitations has expired. But she is currently suing Cosby for deformation of character because he called her a liar. And I did reach out to her today to see if she had more comment on what's been reported. Hopefully we'll get another opportunity in which to hear her point of view.

We'll be right back after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [15:59:22] WHITFIELD: All right, checking our top stories.

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