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Protests Erupt In Turkey Over Government's Handling of Security; International Mayors, Governors Meet in Vatican Over Human Trafficking, Climate Change Initiatives; International Community Rallies Behind Palestinian Village Slated For Demolition; French Locals Upset Over Beach Closure; Egypt's Sexual Harassment Problem. Aired 11:00a-12:00p ET
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[11:00:05] FREDERIK PLEITGEN, HOST: Angry protests as Turkey reels from a suicide bombing near the border with Syria and crowds accuse the
president of being too soft no ISIS. We'll have a report from the scene of the explosion in just a moment.
Also ahead, the defiant village with a demolition order hanging over it. We'll hear from an Israeli rabbi who is against the slated destruction
and ask him why there is such international interest in the case of Susya.
Plus, why has this video gone viral in Egypt? We speak to writer Shareen al-Feki about attempts to crackdown on harassment and why some
women support drastic action.
ANNOUNCER: Live from CNN London, this is Connect the World.
PLEITGEN: At any moment, we could hear from Pope Francis as he addresses a conference on climate change and human trafficking. Mayors and
other local politicians from around the world have gathered at The Vatican in answer to the pope's call to action.
He's set to meet with them this hour.
Our Vatican correspondent Delia Gallagher joins us now from Rome. And Delia, we know that these issues are very close to the pontiff. What are
you -- what is he likely to say?
DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we expect them, of course, to encourage the participants. This is the first time that the
pope is meeting with mayors, Fred. You know, he's been quite tireless on both of the issues of modern slavery and climate change to get them into
the public eye, to make it a top priority for international and local leaders.
And what the pope is trying to do now is work on a two-pronged approach. One is at the local level, represented by the mayors. The other
is the international level. And I think he's speaking right now, Fred, so maybe we can take a listen to what he's saying to the participants.
What he's saying, Fred, while we're waiting for the pope.
PLEITGEN: Yeah, looks like the video is stalling there for a second.
But let's talk a little more, especially about the modern slavery. What are the main issues for him there? Because it is a very different
approach that he would take than, for instance, one that politicians would take, because he's obviously coming from a more spiritual perspective,
GALLAGHER: Yeah, and a lot of the mayors have referenced that today, saying, you know he is the highest moral voice today that we have on this
issue. The Vatican has been working for many years on the question of human trafficking. I think we've got some of what he's saying now. Let's
take a listen, Fred.
POPE FRANCIS (through translator): This is what I tried to express in the encyclical (inaudible) that we cannot separate man from everything
else. There is a relationship which has a huge impact both the environment on the person and the person in the way they treat the environment. And
also the rebound effect against man when the environment is...
PLEITGEN: Video is stalling again there.
He was obviously at that point in time just speaking about the politics toward the environment. He was, of course, very vocal on that
issue, saying that man is obviously one with nature, that we can't separate ourselves, that man's actions obviously have great affect on the planet.
How important, Delia -- and you're in these circles a lot -- how important is the environmental issue to him?
GALLAGHER: Look, the environmental issue is important to the pope, because it's important to everybody for creation care -- taking care of the
Earth. But it's important to Pope Francis in particular because of his care for the poor. And what the Vatican states over and over again is the
connection between climate change and its effect, in particular, on the poor, on poor cities. That's why the mayors are here and particular in the
In fact, they say that global warming is one of the causes of poverty and one of the causes of forced migration. And so they are calling on the
mayors to help at the ground level in their urban areas with the poor, in particular.
We know this pope has the poor at the top of his agenda. So any of these issues, human trafficking is another one, which affects mainly the
poor. There was a mayor from India, from Kochi in Kerala said India has the highest number of slaves in the world and that they are enacting laws
to help child labor laws to help them get an education to allow Indian families to work.
So, all of these issues are interconnected. And what's unique about this conference is for the first time Pope Francis is bringing them
together and saying one thing affects the other. And at the heart of it is his care for the poor, which is a gospel value, as they say here at The
Vatican, that Jesus was concerned for the poor, that's Pope Francis's main focus in all of this -- Fred.
[08:05:14] PLEITGEN: Yeah, you're absolutely right. Of course, that is something that he has shown a lot since he became the pontiff.
In fact, I want to hit on something else that you were saying, because it is quite interesting as well. Now, you were saying that the Vatican has
obviously been pushing these issues, have been on these issues for a very, very long time. But it does appear as though they have become a little
more prominent since this pope has come into office.
What do you think?
Well, Pope Francis has totally ramped it up. I mean, he has made it his top priority, I think we could say. Certainly under Pope Benedict,
even under John Paul II The Vatican has issued documents on creation care, care for the environment, on human trafficking, that's been happening for a
number of years here at The Vatican.
But Pope Francis has met with international leaders, has met with UN leaders, has in mind a meeting in December in Paris on sustainable
development goals at the UN, so trying to actually affect policy.
And when he issued his encyclical, which is mostly on creation care and on the idea of helping the environment and human trafficking, he said
part of the reason for that is to influence the discussion on this.
But he's not just stopping there, he's inviting the mayors to The Vatican so that he can get in on the ground level as well.
So, I think it's clear that -- and all of the mayors kind of paid homage to him in their talks saying that he is really the most outspoken
voice nowadays and really the only one capable of kind of bringing everybody together in this sort of neutral place without any kind of real
bias one way or the other, other than to help the poor and to help the environment.
PLEITGEN: That's Delia Gallagher, thank you very much for joining us there from Rome.
The pope, of course, a moral authority, someone who also has a lot of influence on politicians as well. Thank you very much, Delia.
And you can join us all this week for an in depth look at this global problem of modern day slavery. Be sure to watch this CNN Freedom Project
documentary "Children for Sale: The Fight to End Human Trafficking," that's Wednesday at 8:00 p.m. in London, 9:00 p.m. Central European Time. And of
course only here on CNN.
Now Turkey has always been a stone's throw away from ISIS. And now it's feeling the danger like never before.
A devastating bomb blast near the Syrian border has some Turks outraged and pointing the finger at their leaders for how they've handled
This protest in Istanbul turned violent after some in the crowd shouted slogans blaming the government.
Monday's explosion in Suruc killed 31 people and wounded at least 100. The victims were attending a support rally for the battered Syrian border
town of Kobani when the bomb went off.
Now Turkey's prime minister says one suspect has been identified. He's also said a connection to ISIS has, quote, "gained probability."
Our own senior international correspondent Arwa Damon traveled to the site of that horrific attack.
ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the cultural center in Suruc where the attack took place. And we do need to warn our
viewers at this stage that the video they're about to see is incredibly disturbing.
But we are deciding to broadcast it to show the inhumanity and terror of the attack.
And now 24 hours later, this is the scene. The group that had gathered not only talking about and wanting to bring attention to the
Kobani reconstruction efforts, but they had also gathered donations for the children: toys, schoolbooks, now symbolically placed here, a sign of
defiance against the sheer violence that did take place.
Many people, though, very angry at this stage, with the Turkish government. The crowds here earlier chanting anti-government slogans
believing that the authorities should have done more to protect this nation from the threat posed by ISIS.
In Gaziantep, there was a mass procession earlier in the day before the victims killed in the attack were taken to their various resting
grounds. Many of those who perished here were from different parts of the nation.
The Turkish prime minister also saying that they have identified the suspect in the attack, but they are not publicly disclosing that
They're still investigating what linked the individuals may have had. The Turkish authorities had previously eluded to this attack being the work
of ISIS revenge for Turkey's most recent crackdown on individuals, hundreds rounded up over the last few weeks, suspected of having links or ties to
This attack not necessarily coming as a surprise. People have been bracing themselves for the violence in Syria to spill over, but still
shocking this nation to the very core.
Arwa Damon, CNN, Suruc, Turkey.
[11:10:19] PLEITGEN: And of course we'll be continuing to follow that investigation as it goes on. And if something new happens we will of
course inform you immediately.
Well, he's been labeled an embarrassment to his fellow Republicans and compared to Godzilla by liberals, but don't call him a loser, well not yet
A new nationwide poll shows billionaire and U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump taking a commanding lead among likely Republican voters.
The former reality TV star is scheduled to appear at a campaign event in South Carolina this hour, a key state in the race for the Republican
Trump will be boosted by that new poll, the Washington Post/ABC News survey shows him with 24 percent support among likely Republican voters,
that's nearly double his nearest Republican opponent.
There are some caveats, however. And we have our own CNN's Dana Bash on the scene in Bluffton, South Carolina to tell us what those caveats are.
Dana, how likely is he to win?
DANA BASH, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, it is I think way too early to answer that question, but I think the one thing we can say is that
everybody in the Republican establishment, his Republican opponents are quite surprised by how well he is doing.
I mean, that is a pretty significant lead, as you just mentioned, to have double digit lead on a national level.
Now, as you mentioned, he is a reality TV star. Donald Trump is a celebrity, no question about it, and that does fuel some of that.
But, you know, the issue for him, and the issue for voters, and I've just been anecdotal gleaning this and talking to some of the people who are
here to listen to him speak today. This is a retirement community in South Carolina, is he's not a regular politician. I mean, that's what I heard
over and over again from voters coming to listen to him saying that he's a doer, that he doesn't speak like everybody else. One even said that he has
-- I'll clean it up, cajones. And that they like that about him. So, that's the plus and part of the driving issue for his rise in the polls.
The negative is, of course, the fact that his truth to power sometimes can backfire and he can go a little bit too far, as he seemed to have done
when he questioned Senator John McCain and whether he really should have war hero status, because he was captured in Vietnam and a prisoner of war
for five years in the so-called Hanoi Hilton.
I have to tell you, South Carolina is veteran rich. And I've spoken to some veterans here again just anecdotally who say it's not a
disqualifier, that the organizations, veteran's organizations came out and condemned him, the Democrats, Republicans said that you can't say that kind
of thing, but some here say that, you know, it's not necessarily a disqualifying thing.
One said that he's on probation, but he wants to hear what Donald Trump has to say today.
PLEITGEN: He's certainly spicing up the Republican race, isn't he. Dana Bash, thank you very much there in South Carolina.
Now, Donald Trump is not the only on shaking up U.S. politics, though. Coming up in 20 minutes, we'll look at the rise of the liberal challenging
Hillary Clinton. Plus, we'll go to the West Bank to a Palestinian village, which Israel is set to demolish despite calls from the EU and the United
States to not do that. An international debate just ahead.
[11:16:05] PLEITGEN: You're watching CNN. Welcome back to Connect the World. And these children might soon lose this playground and their
homes as well. They live in the village of Susya in the West Bank and after losing a lengthy legal battle, the Israeli government has told them
that their village is now set to be destroyed, because they lack the correct building permits and proper infrastructure.
And once again you're watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me Fred Pleitgen here in London. Welcome back.
The countdown is ticking for the demolition, but no exact time has been announced. So it could come at any moment. That's left villagers
feeling scared and defiant. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NASSR NAWAJA, SUNYA RESIDENT: You have 150 Palestinian without home. You have 45 children without home here, with nothing. Also in the
demolition you have a school, if you demolition school, you have some people -- some (inaudible) some children without education.
It's not the solution to the demolition my village. This make more trouble in the area, not solution for peae.
MAHMOUD MOHAMMED, SUNYA RESIDENT (through translator): They gave us a map with at least 32 to 40 houses that they want to demolish. We are
waiting. We didn't enjoy Eid and we did nothing like other people.
People are all about happiness in Eid. We are thinking that after Ramadan and Eid, the Israelis are coming for demolition.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PLEITGEN: Now, as you can see there in those interviews, much of the village consists of very basic housing. And the Israeli military says a
lack of infrastructure and building permits means it all needs to be taken down.
The Israeli defense ministry's coordinator of government activities in the territories tells CNN, quote, "the group of houses in Susya were built
illegally and adjacent to an archaeological site. The illegal building had been expanded over the course of several years."
Now you may be surprised to learn that the villagers have -- are receiving a lot of support from people inside Israel as well.
We're joined now by rabbi Arik Ascherman from Jerusalem. He's the president and senior rabbi with Rabbis for Human Rights.
Now, Rabbi Ascherman, we know we're very late in the game in all of this, the demolition could happen at any point. Is there still a chance
that it won't happen? And are there still legal possibilities as well?
ARIK ASCHERMAN, RABBIS FOR PEACE: Well, I'm a religious person. I always believe that god can intervene and that we can save Susya. But it
also depends on people around the world, that fact that the international community has been so firm about this has certainly given us a little bit
of an opening.
But, legally, the situation is, you know, there was a mid-19th Century rabbi (inaudible) who said you cannot allow those with all the power in
their hands to write the rules. And when they take on the white man's burden how to be decent and justice to people who aren't sitting on the
table it borders on criminality.
When you say their homes are illegal, let's not forget that unlike settlers, even, Palestinians have no representation, no authority, no
influence over -- of the planning of their communities. Who is it that decides where they can build and where they can't? The Israeli government
knows that this is private land owned by the Palestinians of Susya. Back in 1982, Pleya Albeck (ph) the government lawyer who is infamous for her
open support to try to turn over Palestinian land to settlements, said this is -- there's a village here. And they owned the 3,000 dunum (ph).
There's four dunum (ph) to an acre, around that. She said that the settlement of Susya built afterwards is -- parts of it is clearly built on
private Palestinian land.
And yet -- so when we talk about legal or illegal, it's really a farce. And the legal situation now is that we submitted a -- with Susya an
alternate building plan. We know we didn't have much of a chance, because it's all Israelis that are again on the committee. But we're now going to
court because the reasons that were given were simply outrageous.
They said it wouldn't be fair to the people of Susya to make them live in this place with no infrastructure, isolated. Well, how many isolated
settlements are there?
There are water mains and electricity lines running right by from settlement to settlement. There's no infrastructure, because they're not
allowed to have infrastructure.
And we've challenged this in the high court, but now, you know, the top army brass came to Susya on July 12 and said we have to demolish.
We're under terrible pressure from settlers. We have to do some demolitions before the court hearing, preempting the court hearing. And
that's our legal situation.
We're hopeful that maybe...
PLEITGEN: Rabbi Ascherman, if I can just interrupt for a second. Are you surprised -- because these demolitions didn't just start yesterday.
Generally, the demolitions going on of Palestinian homes, Palestinian villages. Are you surprised at the amount of tension this is getting?
The United States, for instance, is lending its considerable weight in support of these villages saying, quote, we strongly urge the Israeli
authorities to refrain from carrying out any demolitions in the village and saying also in a briefing by the State Department that the demolition would
be, quote, a provocation.
Are you surprised that this case is getting so much attention?
ASCHERMAN: Well, yes and no. I mean, the fact is that hundreds and hundreds of people have visited Susya over the years. And even among the
Palestinian population, which is so disenfranchised, these are really the poorest of the poor. They were living in caves until the army demolished
their caves, and then didn't let them build anything instead.
And so I think this raises a lot of sympathy among a lot of people in Israel and around the world who understand that we're beating up on people
who are simply helpless.
And we also know, by the way, that many congress people have been getting calls from their constituents. And then they have been taking that
further. And so that it really is a situation where people in Israel and around the world have been standing up for some decency.
PLEITGEN: Rabbi Arik Ascherman, thank you very much for joining us live from Jerusalem.
And of course, we will keep continuing to monitor this case as it goes along.
And live from London, this is Connect the World. Coming up in 10 minutes, the mavericks making Republican leaders and the Hillary Clinton
campaign very nervous.
And after the break, neighborhood transformed. From charming residences, to Chile's financial destination.
[11:24:58] JOHN DEFTERIOS, EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR: Supported by a strong economy, Chile has seen steady growth for decades. Its capital,
Santiago, is known as one of the most modern cities in Latin America, and its golf district is a prime example.
Formerly, a wealthy residential neighborhood, El Golf, changed drastically into the city's new financial district as author Miguel La
Bordet (ph) recalls.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): In the 80s when Chile started to open up after the dictatorship, this district underwent many changes.
Up until then, all office buildings were located in the historic downtown, but rapidly they've started to move to this area, creating a sort of a
DEFTERIOS: That revolution transformed ornate mansions into offices, and houses into modern skyscrapers, gaining the district the nickname
Sanhattan, a play on words blending Santiago and Manhattan.
Abraham Centerman (ph) is one of the main developers of the new neighborhood. He's an architect who has designed and built more than 2
million square meters currently in use.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): It's quite when you establish an attractive idea -- a series of buildings start popping up, all of them
very successful. There are no empty spaces here.
DEFTERIOS: Over 60 towers stand tall in the district. South America's tallest skyscraper Torre Constenera (ph) is the main anchor.
Boutiques, high-end restaurants and swanky hotels have also moved into the area, which the district's mayor says has helped boost residential
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): The fact that the infrastructure standard and services for this sector are so high, means
that according to financial trends, the prices for the residences will rise.
DEFTERIOS: Indeed, house prices in the area are now going for up to $12,500 a square meter, an example of how the gains of a new financial
district are spreading well beyond business.
John Defterios, CNN.
PLEITGEN: Welcome back, everybody. I'm Fred Pleitgen. This is Connect the World. And these are your top stories this hour.
Funerals have taken place for the victims of Sunday's bomb attack in southern Turkey. At least 31 people were killed when an explosion tore
through a rally in the town of Zuruc. Turkey's prime minister says one of the suspect has been identified and a connection to ISIS appears likely.
A man and his uncle have been charged by British authorities with trying to join ISIS. The nephew, Junaid Ahmed Khan (ph) was also charged
with planning a terror attack on U.S. military personnel in the UK. Both men are from the town of Luton north of London.
And Burundi has gone to the polls in a controversial presidential election. Current leader Pierre Nkurunziza is seeking a third term in
office despite claims from critics that he's breaking a two term limit. Scores of people have died in violence since Nkurunziza announced his
And Pope Francis spoke a short time ago at a Vatican conference calling for the United Nations to take action against human trafficking.
The Vatican is hosting the conference with local and regional leaders to encourage action on both trafficking and climate change at the local level.
In Mexico, there are new wrinkles in the investigation into Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman's prison escape. The notorious drug kingpin broke out of
his cell through an elaborate tunnel more than a week ago. Officials now believe his accomplices may have used a GPS global positioning system to
help with their plan.
And as CNN's Polo Sandoval reports, they may even have done a dry run at another jail.
[11:31:25] POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): 14 months before Joaquin Guzman pulled off his escape from a prison, his organization
may have been rehearsing with a separate jail break. A Mexican newspaper snapped these photos of a tunnel leading to a prison in el Chapo's home
state of Sinaloa. Mexican officials say it was used in the escape of three inmates accused of trafficking weapons and drugs, at least one with ties to
the Sinaloa cartel, a drug organization notorious for subterranean smuggling. This 2014 jailbreak and this month's el Chapo escape are
similar. They started at construction sites and ended behind prison walls.
This engineer has worked on some of Mexico's largest tunneling projects and says digging such a precise path takes manpower and technology
IGNACIO MANTEROLA, CIVIL ENGINEER: The first thing was they must do is get the location and then start digging in that location with topographic
equipment that is so accurate.
SANDOVAL (on camera): So el Chapo had to do was find the exact
coordinates of that shower and the experts would do the rest?
SANDOVAL (voice-over): Monterola thinks the easiest part of the dig probably came towards the end.
MANTEROLA: They have all the plans they could find the pipeline who goes right under the el Chapo shower.
SANDOVAL (on camera): And Mexican authorities are interviewing the supervisor of the prison. Investigators believe he may have given away
unauthorized access to the prison plans. However, at last check he has not been charged and added to the list of seven prison employees already
arrested in connected to this escape.
Polo Sandoval, CNN, Mexico City.
PLEITGEN: Now, the already crowded Republican field in the U.S. presidential race is about to get a little more crowded. Ohio Governor
John Kasich is about to announce that he's entering the race as well. That will make 16 Republican contenders for the 2016 election ahead of the
primaries and caucuses. That will winnow that field down.
Kasich has a lot of ground to catch up. A CNN/ORC survey from earlier this month showed him with just 2 percent support among likely Republican
Now, we want to get back to the surprising appeal of a pair of mavericks in the race for the White House: the campaigns of billionaire
Donald Trump and Senator Bernie Sanders are causing headaches for some in the Republican and the Democratic parties.
A new nationwide poll shows Trump leading the Republican field by double digits, while Sanders, a self-declared socialist, is drawing huge,
fawning crowds at his campaign rallies.
Some people might argue Trump is being given too much attention to the media. So, that got us wondering how well known are the top Republican
candidates outside the U.S.?
Our own Hala Gorani went to the streets of London to find out.
HALA GORANI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Who do you think this is?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No idea.
GORANI: No idea.
American politician, Republican?
This Republican candidate. That is Ted Cruz. Scott Walker.
This is Jeb Bush. So he's the brother of...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, we know who the Bushes are.
GORANI: Rand Paul.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yep. Know.
GORANI: Did you know him?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
GORANI: Do you recognize this man?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
GORANI: This man?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
GORANI: That's Rand Paul.
[11:35:03] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Something Bush.
GORANI: Bush. Jeb Bush, correct.
This guy? Rand Paul.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, they're all running for that party.
GORANI: They're all running for their party's nomination.
Do you know this guy?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't know.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Trump. Hates the Mexicans.
GORANI: This man.
And how about this man?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know who that is?
GORANI: Finally, how about this man?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump.
PLEITGEN: Well, Trump certainly seems to be more well known than all the others here in London.
For more, let's turn now to Peter Beinart, CNN political commentator and contributing editor to Atlantic Media. He is live in our studio in New
And Peter, I remember in 2008 everybody thought that Hillary would take the nomination and along came this sort of unknown guy called Barack
Obama. In 2000, many people thought that John McCain would win the nomination and along came this guy called George W. Bush.
How worried are the campaigns of Hillary Clinton and all the others in the Republican field about Trump and about Sanders?
PETER BEINART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think that they pose different challenges.
Bernie Sanders is tapping into a frustration and anger on the left end of the Democratic Party about inequality in the sense that Hillary is not
authentic enough in her fight against that. But the difference between him and Barack Obama is that he almost no African-American and Latino support.
So there's a ceiling on how well he can do just winning left leaning white voters. That's his basic problem.
The problem for Trump I think is different. I don't think anyone in the Republican Party thinks he can win. What they're really afraid of is
that he is destroying an already weak Republican brand, especially with Latinos. And that in a general election that will cost their nominee
PLEITGEN: Is this the popularity of both Trump and Sanders, is this something that is just a spur of the moment thing, or do you think that
this is also showing wider discontent with many people at generally big politics, at the political establishment in the United States?
BEINART: No, this really happens every four years. I mean, every four years on -- in one party or perhaps both parties, you see outsider
candidates who are characterized by an authenticity by the fact that they say whatever is on their mind, which people appreciate given the
conventional politicians in America are so cautious. And also people who reflect some of the anger at globalization. And both Trump and Sanders in
different ways are doing this. And of course this is a phenomenon you see in Europe as well.
Sanders is reflecting a kind of left-wing anti-corporate anger about globalization's impact on inequality, and Trump is reflecting on anger at
immigration, a kind of right-wing response to globalization again that you see in Europe as well.
So -- but this happens every four years in the United States, because it is tapping into some real grievances that exist on both left and right
PLEITGEN: How likely do you think -- or does Donald Trump have a chance of taking the nomination? I mean, he's got a big lead at this point
in time. On the other hand, there are some who might argue, you know, that he's a little weak on experience, for instance. Does he have a chance?
And are there Republicans who are worried that he might make it afterall?
BEINART: No. I don't think he has a chance.
You know, these national polls really don't matter very much given the way America chooses its presidential candidates. What matters really is
how you're doing in the first key states, in Iowa, in New Hampshire, then Nevada and South Carolina. Trump doesn't have an organization in these
states. He's actually very unpopular.
I think what he's benefiting from, as your -- as Hala Gorani's piece showed, is name identification. But he -- there are so many problems with
the idea of taking Donald Trump seriously as a presidential candidate that I think that we are going through a Trump moment. And I think that his --
he's going to kind of collapse like a pinata.
PLEITGEN: We'll go to Bernie Sanders as well, because his popularity is also something that many people find surprising, even Democratic
senators he sides within the U.S. Senate. Monday's Washington Post/ABC News Poll shows Sanders getting a 14 percent of likely Democratic vote.
That's seconds to Hillary Clinton's 63 percent, but virtually no change since the same poll in May that led to this comment last month from
Huffington Post columnist H.A. Goodman saying, "finally we're all asking a question that we've been too frightened to ask for fear of seeming
unrealistic: why not Bernie?"
So, Peter, why not Bernie?
BEINART: Well, the -- where Bernie Sanders is showing greater strength in that national poll is in New Hampshire. He's from Vermont,
which borders New Hampshire. New Hampshire has a tendency to like outsider underdog candidates. And he is again tapping into the same anti-corporate,
anti-inequality kind of zeitgeist that we saw with Elizabeth Warren has tapped into, that we saw with the Occupy movement a few years ago. So,
there's something real there.
The -- his basic problem, as I mentioned earlier, is that his support is almost entirely white. And you can't win a Democratic primary unless
you have significant support amongst African-Americans and Latinos.
And so I think while he's going to be an important figure in the debate, because of the issues he's raising, I think the chances of him
defeating Hillary Clinton are extraordinarily slim.
[11:40:33] PLEITGEN: Go back to Donald Trump, then, are you surprised that the comments that he made about John McCain haven't cost him more?
BEINART: Well, you know, they'll cost him in the sense that the Republican Party elite and the candidates are all now going after him as
hard as they can.
But, in the American political system today, political parties are not that powerful. There was a time when individual candidates were very
dependent on political parties, now they're really not. Donald Trump doesn't need the Republican party to raise money. He has his own money.
He doesn't need it to get attention.
And in some ways, he thrives on this sense of being persecuted. This is always the dilemma with candidates -- outrageous candidates like him is
that there -- the sense of grievance on which they thrive is accentuated when you go after them.
So, I think that I'm -- I think the Republican Party is looking desperately for a way to get Trump out of the spotlight. And I don't think
Trump is a serious contender, but it's not clear to me how we're going to get him out of the spotlight given that he's -- let's face it, he's more
fun to watch than a lot of the other Republican candidates.
PLEITGEN: He certainly does love the spotlight. Peter Beinart, CNN contributor, thank you much there in New York.
Now, as we heard earlier, Pope Francis is renewing his push for governments around the world to combat climate change. He just signed a
declaration urging mayors and other local leaders attending a Vatican conference to take action. Those in attendance are also expected to sign.
The conference is also addressing another issue the pope has made a top priority: human trafficking. Of course that's something that we also
have as a priority here at CNN. The CNN Freedom Project is dedicated to shining a light on that issue. Our latest production is a documentary
called "Children for Sale: The Fight to End Human Trafficking."
Actress and activist Jada Pinkett Smith spoke with a young survivor in the U.S. who was sold for sex a few years ago.
She says she was lured in by someone she thought was her friend.
[08:40:12] JADA PINKETT SMITH, ACTRESS: Sasharay was born and raised in Florida. By the time she was 14, she was constantly being teased at
SASHARAY, TRAFFICKING SURVIVOR. : What I got picked on a lot about was being black, like really, really dark-skinned I guess.
SMITH: She felt alone at home and at school. Sasha Ray says that's why when an older classmate offered friendship she jumped at it.
SASHARAY: I thought she was like my best friend, because I can like tell her anything. One day she asked if, you know, I want to skip school,
want to have fun, you know. So, we went to this barber shop. When I was there, she introduced me to these guys.
SMITH: Sasha Ray's new "friend" had just led her to the man who would eventually become her trafficker.
SASHARAY: They talked about how we was going to make money, how it was going to be easy. We didn't have to depend on nobody. And it was all
sounding good and stuff, so I fell for it.
SMITH: Was there kind of grooming process like when this first started where it is just something that is just happened and you -- he was
just expecting you to learn on the way?
SASHARAY: He slowly brought it on when we got closer, when he felt like he got closer to me. He usually did it out of the back of the barber
shop. And he even had people that worked with the post office, mailmen come in. Mailmen came in and paid their money to him, came back there to
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PLEITGEN: It's important to learn about this, to talk about this. And you can join us all this week for an in depth look at this global
problem. Be sure to join and to watch CNN Freedom Project Documentary "Children for Sale: The Fight to End Human Trafficking" that's at this time
And if you miss that, watch on a few hours later at 8:00 p.m. in London, 9:00 p.m. Central European Time.
And of course only here on CNN.
Live from London, this is Connect the World. And coming up, vacationers on the French Riviera say a king is depriving them of their
favorite holiday spot. That story just ahead.
Plus, there's a dark side to these Eid celebrations in Egypt. They're often marred by sexual harassment. Next, I'm joined by an expert to ask
what's being done to combat this.
[11:47:21] PLEITGEN: You're watching CNN. And this is Connect the World with me Fred Pleitgen here in London. Welcome back to the show.
And after a month of piety and restriction during Ramadan, sexual harassment in Egypt often spikes during the religious celebrations that
follow. And authorities are looking to step up their response. Take a look at this video showing the arrest of a man accused of harassment by an
Egyptian police woman.
And the arrest itself gets pretty tough. You can see her hitting him with what appears to be an electric cattle prod and slapping his face.
Of course, we have to highlight this policewoman has not been accused of any sort of wrongdoing. And there's been an outpouring of support for
her actions on Egyptian social media.
Now, we want to bring in an expert to help us understand why sexual harassment is such a problem in Egypt. Shareen al-Feky joins me now live
in the studio here in London. She's the author of "Sex and the Citadel: Intimate Life in a Changing Arab World."
And, first of all, thank you for joining. And I have to ask, you've been speaking with people in Egypt. What's the reaction to the spin there?
SHEREEN EL FEKY, AUTHOR: It's very interesting. It's quite remarkable to in a patriarchal society like Egypt to have a woman take a
man to task so publicly.
But what's equally remarkable is the response. As you said, there has been tremendous outpouring saying that absolutely this woman is right to
have stood up for women's rights. Sexual harassment is an enormous problem.
I need to point out, however, that some voices on social media are more critical saying that for example this is against Egypt's traditions.
But also more significantly some people saying, look, this is another example of police brutality, the long arm of the law
PLEITGEN: Of course, the police is always a bit lightning rod, if you will, in Egypt.
But why is there such a problem in Egypt with sexual harassment? Because it's every time there's public gatherings, also in the aftermath of
Tahrir Square, of the revolution, there were these problems as well. Why does this happen so much there?
FEKY: Again, I need to point out that sexual harassment is not a uniquely Egyptian phenomenon, but you're absolutely right. There have been
these extraordinary figures, for example, 90 percent of women having experienced harassment.
PLEITGEN: 99.3 percent, according to one survey.
FEKY: Yeah, the numbers vary according to the studies. But it's high. It's unacceptably high.
A lot of dynamics are playing out. I mean, certainly there is a big issue about relations between men and women. There is -- Egypt, as I said
is patriarchal, there are a lot of attitudes, that are unhelpful towards women. And of course, we have seen the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in
recent decades, which has sort of pumped up these men first attitudes.
PLEITGEN: But has that really changed the attitude? Because I mean this is something that hasn't been a problem in Egypt just recently, I mean
this is something that's been an issue for decades and not necessarily something that's linked to religious fundamentalism, is it?
FEKY: Absolutely. I mean, the overarching issue here is an authoritarian structure. And hierarchies of power. And men in Egypt are
under pressure. Women are under enormous pressure, but so, too, are men, and particularly poor men. And when you put men under pressure --
economic, political, social, they tend to behave badly. And in these structures, they behave badly to the next people down the line, and those
happen to be women.
PLEITGEN: And Egypt, it had an authoritarian structure under Hosni Mubarak. It had a bit of, some would say, chaos, after the revolution.
And now it has an authoritarian structure again under Sisi.
Why is this still happening? And what is the new government doing about this?
FEKY: Well, in terms of what the government is doing, it has passed a law last year which imposes fines up to 5,000 Egyptian pounds, that's 700
U.S. dollars on people who are found to be sexually harassing. And also imposes jail terms up to six months. So there is the law there. The
government is trying to enforce it, as we have seen.
The problem, though, is that for example during Eid there have been more than 80 arrests of harassers.
PLEITGEN: 86, yes.
FEKY: Yet, what is interesting is if you look at how many of those arrests are actually going to the system, it's less than five. And one of
the problems that police are facing is that women are reluctant to pursue these cases any further.
PLEITGEN: Is there a try by the authorities to try and create more awareness? Because it's one thing to punish people, but it's another thing
to do public awareness campaigns, to change the whole attitude towards women there.
FEKY: Well, what's interesting about the public awareness is certainly there has been a seachange.
In 2007, for example, the government was in denial about sexual harassment, now it's speaking out very publicly.
But what's really making the difference is the rise of civil society. We have now close to a dozen NGOs in Egypt. And they're working on all
aspects of this problem trying to empower women, trying to take cases to court, trying to work with men as well to change their attitudes and
But I have to tell you that this change takes time. We've had a recent national youth survey in Egypt. And it found that over 60 percent
of men and half of women, young women, young men, polled said that if a woman is provocatively dressed that she deserves to be harassed.
So we have a long way to go in Egypt in changing these patriarchal attitudes. But this is a first welcome step.
PLEITGEN: It certainly is something that does take a long time to change.
Shareen, thank you very much for coming on the program today.
FEKY: My pleasure.
PLEITGEN: We're live from London, this is Connect the World. And coming up, we take a look at the art of Fantasia in Morocco, an equestrian
tradition no longer being performed only by men.
PLEITGEN: You are watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me Fred Pleitgen here in London. Welcome back to the program.
Sun, sea, and sand are usually a staple of any vacation in the French Riviera, but now one beach there has been closed for visiting royalty.
And, as you can imagine, the locals aren't happy about it.
George Howell has the story.
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN: It is a popular spot along the Mediterranean coast, but now this beach on the French Riviera has been sealed off in
preparation for visiting Saudi royalty, a move that has many locals here livid.
[11:55:03] UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I've been coming here for 70 years. I used to come here with my parents, and it was here
that I learned to swim. So it shocks me a little at what's happening at this beach.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We've been deprived of our holidays because of a king, who I have all respect for, but just because
he's king doesn't mean he has more say than the citizens, whether they're Europeans, French or any other nationality.
HOWELL: Near Valy (ph) it sits between Cannes and Antibes on the French Riviera, a destination home to many exclusive resorts and marinas.
It's usually open to the public. It's also the place where the Saudi King Salman owns a villa.
Though French authorities say the King's visit is not confirmed, local officials say members of the royal family entourage are already on site
preparing for the arrival of the monarch and some 500 people. and it's evident, as some point to cement being poured on the beach to install an
elevator, linking the house to now private shores.
Also, by the insulation of a gate blocking the only public access to the beach through a tunnel just below the king's villa.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): So, as you can see here, there are holes that have been drilled into the wall. This was in
preparation for the grid which was then rejected to protect the residents.
HOWELL: A French official tells CNN the beach's closure is a temporary security measure and necessary in the wake of recent attacks that
have put France on high terror alert.
No Saudi officials were available for comment due to the public holiday, but authorities rarely comment on the King's personal travel.
Still, people who live here say it's clear what's happening: the public is getting pushed out. And they don't like it.
George Howell, CNN, Atlanta.
PLEITGEN: And on tonight's Parting Shots, we take a look at the Moroccan equestrian tradition normally performed only by men, but not any
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Females Fantasia in Morocco, a traditional equestrian show that celebrate remains of military art of Berber and Arabs.
These local celebrations involve competing male troops in what's commonly reserved to men, because of its dangerous and physical aspects.
I discovered that a few troops -- women have begun performing this traditionally male equestrian show. I was immediately hooked by the story.
To ride in traditional clothing, holding Moroccan rifles as they gallop full tide on fields toward a group of crowd and Moroccan tents.
At the very last moment, they fire the rifles. It's fast, it's noisy, it's dusty, and it's very dangerous.
I am Zara Rasamuni (ph), a Moroccan photographer and I'm based in Paris.
PLEITGEN: And I'm Fred Pleitgen, that was Connect the World. Thank you very much for watching.