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[01:00:13] JOHN VAUSE, CNN HOST: Airplane debris off the African coast could be first real breakthrough in the search for the missing flight MH370.

ZAIN ASHER, CNNI HOST: Also ahead, a police officer indicted for murder after a body camera captures the moment he shot an unarmed driver.

VAUSE: And the trophy hunter of a lion goes in to hiding.

ASHER: A warm welcome to all our viewers in the United States and around the world. So glad to be with you for the next hour. I'm Zain Asher.

VAUSE: Great to have you with us. I'm John Vause. This is CNN NEWSROOM.

We begin this hour with the breaking news out of Reunion Island until the far Western Indian Ocean. That's where investigators are headed for a closer look at a piece of airplane debris that could be part of Malaysian Airlines flight 370. Reunion Island is in Madagascar, a long way from the area where search crews are looking for the missing jetliner.

ASHER: And just to be clear, Malaysian Airlines had issued a statement. They are saying that it is way too soon to speculate on whether this debris that was found could actually be part of the plane.

CNN's Brian Todd has the latest.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's reported to be almost eight feet long, more three feet wide, and maybe the most tantalizing clue in the 17-month-old mystery of MH370. This metallic debris, which appears to be from a large plane was discovered off the Coast of Reunion Island in the Western Indian Ocean near Madagascar. Now, the race is on to see it is from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370. After one French air force official said the part seen here in local media appears to be an airline wing flap.

DAVID SOUCIE, CNN SAFETY ANALYST: If it is indeed part of 777, then we are pretty clear that it would be then also part of MH-370 because the number of 777 that crashed in this area are minuscule at best.

TODD: One French official stresses, it is way too soon to say if this is part of that missing plane. What do authorities need to examine from this piece of wreckage to possibly come up with the match?

LES ABEND, CNN AVIATION ANALYST: Many parts of specific Boeing airplanes, if not other airplanes, have serial numbers attached to these particular parts which are riveted on to that part. So, they will look to see if that serial number traces back to, first of all, Boeing airplane or any other type of airplane.

In addition to that, you are going to be able to find out, you know, this is part match up with the specific diagram of parts of the 777.

TODD: Flight 370 disappeared after taking off from Kuala Lumpur on March 8th, 2014, bound for Beijing but never made it, vanishing without a trace. And sparking an international search that continues to captivate the world.

Authorities know the plane intentionally veered off course. But say, they still don't know why the Boeing 777 with 239 people on board made a dramatic turn over the sea between Malaysia and Vietnam. And they don't know exactly where the plane's journey ended.

Using satellite data, search officials calculated that the plane went down in the Southern Indian Ocean. And most recently, have been combing an area of the ocean floor about a thousand miles west of Perth Australia. That's about 2,700 miles from where the debris was found. Now investigators and scientists are calculating if pieces of the plane could have drifted that far.

SOUCIE: The odds are against the fact that it would drift to that part. However, it is definitely possible that it could have considering the amount of time it has been on the water.

TODD: Experts stress other planes have crashed in the area and this piece could be from one of them. Contacted by CNN, Boeing would only say it is continuing to provide technical expertise to the search teams.

Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.

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ASHER: For more now on this piece of debris, I want to bring in CNN's David Molko. He is joining us live now from Hong Kong.

So David, we heard Brian Todd there. There were so many unknowns in this investigation. But we know that the location of the debris may possibly match up with drift modeling done by the Australians. But I'm certainly not alone when I say that we still need to be cautious. DAVID MOLKO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, Zain. A lot of caution

and a lot of sensitivity. What you have is 239 families watching this very closely, Zain. At this point, this is all they have. This is the first potential, potential I should stress, piece of debris from that flight.

Nobody wants to get this wrong. It will take time. It will take collaboration between the Australians and Boeing and the French and possible Malaysia, the Americans. They want to get it right.

Talking about that drift modeling, I had a chance to talk to the top Australian investigator, the Martin Dolan at the Australian Transport Safety bureau. What he said is that where this debris was picked up is not inconsistent with the current MH370 search zone. It is more than 2500 miles away, Zain. That's about from the distance from New York to Los Angeles. But the drift modeling and I think we have a graphic from a local professor there in Perth that we can bring up and show you, the drift modeling is consistent with a piece of debris making its way from the potential search zone down in that blue area which you see. And then up and around across the Indian Ocean in to the red area. Again, they are cautioning that this is just one of many possibilities. But the chief of Australia's transport investigation agency saying that it is not inconsistent with where they are looking right now -- Zain.

[01:05:33] ASHER: So, it is possible that that piece of debris, the flaperon could have easily ended up there.

You know, David, this is a complicated investigation. There was so many parties involve. This is an American plane. It is a Boeing plane. The debris was found in French waters, Reunion Island. And the Australians have said that they are going to be the ones to examine the black boxes. So what is the role of Malaysia in the investigation do you think?

MOLKO: Well, this is a Malaysian investigation, fundamentally, Malaysian airlines. And the thing is they have been working closely with the Australians on the search efforts and also with China. You know, remember the majority of the passengers on board MH370 were headed from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. They were Chinese nationals.

There is two things in play here. And this is beyond the time window of identifying whether or not this piece is from MH370. There's still the question about finding the plane and the passengers. We have heard this from family members over the past few hours. Australian investigators are saying there's very slim chance that this could provide clues. It basically will not narrow down that search area, even if this is confirmed to be from the aircraft.

So finding the plane and the passengers and after that it is uncovering what happened so that it could potentially never happen again. That's huge responsibility, not only weighing on the shoulders of Malaysia, but all of the countries, all of their international partners that are looking at this. They do not want to get this wrong -- Zain. ASHER: Absolutely. You know, they certainly have to be cautious.

You know, this debris, a lot more debris could be floating. Some of the planes, though, could be under water.

David Molko, live for us there in Hong Kong. Thank you so much -- John.

VAUSE: Let's try to get a few more answers here.

Tom Ballantyne is the chief correspondent for Orient aviation. He joins us now live from Sydney.

So Tom, we are hearing from Boeing that this is in fact a piece of debris from 777. We know MH370 was a 777. It is the only listed 777 which is missing in the world right now. You fill out the rest.

TOM BALLANTYNE, CHIEF CORRESPONDENT FOR ORIENT AVIATION: Well, I mean, let us - with all the caution that we've talked about it by being careful until it is absolutely exactly identified. If we assumed that this is part of the Malaysian Airlines aircraft, it is certainly a major breakthrough in the search. However, we have to keep this in perspective. We have to realize this is not going to answer the major questions about this mystery. It's not going to tell us what happened. It's not going to tell us how it happened. It is not going to tell us exactly precisely where the rest of the aircraft is. So we have to keep that in mind when we are looking at this discovery.

VAUSE: What does it tell us?

BALLANTYNE: Well with, it will absolutely give the investigators once they are able to take a look at this piece of rubbish, for instance, they will probably be able to eliminate the possibility of an explosion. And if there was an explosion, the aircraft broke up in the midair there would be some sort of (INAUDIBLE) marks on this piece. And there would be signs on this piece if an explosion had taken place.

If it is apart from the barnacles which they found on it because it has been so long in the ocean it was in pretty relatively good condition, it would seemingly point to the aircraft perhaps have been pancaked in to the ocean in one piece and that perhaps some pieces broke off as it hit the ocean. But it will show that there was not a catastrophic breakup of the aircraft.

VAUSE: Are you surprised I it is this lone piece which is being found so far? Because normally, it is kind of debris it would travel in clusters at least, wouldn't it? There should be more pieces out there?

BALLANTYNE: Well, of course, it depends how large the debris field was in the first place. I'm not surprised. They found one piece. I imagine -- I'm sure that now the investigators and the French police, the authorities in Reunion will be searching the shores of all of those islands looking for further debris. And it wouldn't surprise me now if other parts of whatever aircraft this is were found on beaches in that area.

VAUSE: So the bottom line here is that everybody keeps saying this is a breakthrough, it is a big clue but was still not going to be able to reverse engineer it because the currents are tricky and it will give us a general idea. The bottom line is they may never find the bulk of the debris of MH370.

[01:10:01] BALLANTYNE: Well, I kind of disagree with that. I think they will eventually find MH370. But I think even then there will be issue finding out what happened. Even if they retrieved the black boxes. Because the fact is, the black boxes will only record the last hour or hour and a half of this flight. It will not show what happened when the aircraft diverted from its flight to Beijing. It will, however, show whether human hands were involved in controlling this aircraft in the last period of its flight.

VAUSE: At least it dispels some of the crazy theories out there. The plane was hijacked. It was on an island somewhere. We know that much at least. So that's some certainty.

Tom, it's always good to speak to you. We appreciate it. Tom Ballantyne in Sydney.

ASHER: And I want to bring in our meteorologist Ivan Cabrera who has been looking into ocean currents from that part of the Indian Ocean.

So, Ivan, when we spoke last hour, you were talking about how the Indian Ocean gires and the currents moving counterclockwise could possibly explain how part of the plane could have ended up from up the coast of Australia to off the coast of Africa. Some basically 2500 miles from where the initial search area was.

IVAN CABRERA, CNN METEOROLOGIST: A long ways away. And generally, yes, that's the case. We can talk about the global ocean currents here and generally they move in a certain direction here. But things get a little trickier here. We will show you the difference here.

Let's set the stage and show you what we are talking about here. The search area remains, by the way, that is not change to the west of Australia. As we fly you a little bit closer here, we would be able to see this is the arc that they have been searching here. This is their best case where they think the debris field is lying there. And it is still a very large search area. The debris was found upwards of 2,647 miles away. That has been over a year now. So this thing has been floating out there and has been influenced by the ocean currents at this point here.

The ocean currents, there are five gyres across here because of the circular nature of the planet here, we are spinning. And so the gyres do so as well. And the piece that was found on the beach there on the right on the coast there was large enough, buoyant enough to be carried by these gyres here which control essentially the first 300 meters or so above the ocean current here.

And the one we are particularly interested in is the Indian Ocean gyre where in the southern hemisphere. And because of the chorio (ph) is forced, things move toward the left in the southern hemisphere. So wind direction, whether it is an ocean current will be deflected toward the left here.

And so, on the northern side of the Indian Ocean gyre here, that is what we are talking about there, everything is moving towards the west. So generally, things undulating to the west. But look at this baloney here. Very tricky. There are nuances with the ocean currents here. So generally we do have that westward motion here. But if you talk about reverse engineering, Zain and John, it's going to be very tricky because you have some eddies here as well. And I think their best guess right now is where they have been looking over the last year and a half here. So they may not tell us much here, but it is at least one of the pieces in the puzzle here as far as the wreckage is concerned.

VAUSE: (INAUDIBLE). It is an important breakthrough. But don't put too much in to this.

Thanks, Ivan.

ASHER: And its investigation had gone to so many twists and turns. But fortunately, as soon as they identify the serial numbers on that piece of debris, then hopefully --

VAUSE: (INAUDIBLE) is going to be a better time.

ASHER: -- that this is part of MH370.

VAUSE: We have an update on another Malaysian airliner which was brought down, this time we head to the United Nations. And on Wednesday, Russia vetoed a security council resolution to establish an international tribunal which would prosecuted those responsible for bringing down Malaysia airlines flight MH17 last year.

ASHER: And just as a recap as to what happened, MH 17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine in territory held by pro-Russian separatists. All 298 on board were killed.

VAUSE: Still to come here on CNN NEWSROOM, a U.S. police officer facing murder charges after frankly shooting a driver during a traffic stop. The story his body camera video tells as the officer defends his actions.

ASHER: Plus, to Zimbabwe, a man accused of helping an American hunter kill a famous lion have now appeared in court. We will have the latest on the case and the worldwide outrage it has triggered. Stay with us.

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[01:18:31] VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. We have an update now on that breaking news. A piece of airplane wreckage has been found off the coast of Reunion Island in the western Indian Ocean, not far from Madagascar. A source tells CNN it appears to be a part of the Boeing 777, that's the same model as Malaysian airlines flight 370. ASHER: Now as a recap, that plane disappeared last March, March 8th

on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It was carrying 239 people. CNN spoke with one woman whose partner was on board.

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SARAH BAJC, PARTNER WAS ONMH370: If ultimately this is the piece of the wing then that little thread of hope that I have been holding on to will have to break. And reality will have to take over. But yes, up until now, I am and most of his family members have continued to believe that until we have a body, we can't give up hoping they still come back.

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ASHER: And your heart really bleeds for her. I can't imagine what those 239 families are going through. But we know that Malaysia is sending a team of investigators to Reunion Island right now to get a closer look at that piece debris.

VAUSE: Out spoken since first started and maybe now she will get that closure clearly not easy.

We move on to the United States now where a former police officer in the state of Ohio is expected in court in the coming hours. He will be facing murder charges. A grand jury indicted Ray Tensing on Wednesday in the shooting death of 43-year-old Samuel Dubose.

ASHER: So, this shooting in Cincinnati was captured on Tensing's body camera during a traffic stop. And we are going to show part of it to you, but we do want to warn you that this video may indeed be disturbing.

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[01:20:08] OFFICER RAY TENSING, ALLEGEDLY SHOT AND KILLED SAMUEL DUBOSE: OK. I'm going to ask you again, do you have your license on?

SAMUEL DUBOSE, VICTIM: I have my license. You can check my name.

TENSING: You don't have a license on you? I'm asking you a direct question, do you have your license on you?

DUBOSE: Why did you pull me over?

TENSING: Again, the front tag.

DUBOSE: But it is not illegal to have a front tag in Cincinnati.

TENSING: Actually it is. I'm going to can you again, do you have your license on.

DUBOSE: I have a license you can run it again?

TENSING: OK. Is that on you?

DUBOSE: I don't think I have it on me.

TENSING: Be straight up with me, are you suspended?

DUBOSE: No. I'm not suspended.

TENSING: OK why don't you have your license on you?

DUBOSE: OK. Until I can figure out if you have a license, go ahead and take your seat belt off.

DUBOSE: I didn't do anything.

TENSING: Go ahead and take your seat belt off.

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ASHER: God. That was incredibly difficult to watch. But Ray Tensing, the officer has been fired from his job. And the 25-year-old turned himself in to authorities after the indictment. Now, Tensing says that he feared for his life and thought Dubose was going to run him over.

VAUSE: But the prosecutor says Tensing is simply making an excuse for a purposeful killing.

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JOE DETERS, HAMILTON COUNTY PROSECUTOR: I have been doing this for over 30 years. This is the most asinine act I have ever seen a police officer make. Totally unwarranted. It was an absolute tragedy in the year 2015 that anyone would behave in this manner.

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VAUSE: And a small number of people gathered on Wednesday night outside of a Cincinnati courthouse calling for justice for Dubose.

Now, we move to another story which has been breaking earlier today. His death had been long rumored but now the Afghan government said the reclusive founder of the Taliban is dead. Spokesman for the country's intelligence service says Mullah Omar died in the hospital in Karachi, Pakistan two year ago after an unknown illness.

ASHER: But just two weeks ago, the Taliban released a statement attributed to Omar. The terror group also claimed he was still its leader earlier this year.

VAUSE: Two men accuse of helping an American hunter kill Zimbabwe's famous lion, Cecil, were in court on Wednesday. (INAUDIBLE) they could face ten years in prison. Both men say they are innocent.

ASHER: The American hunter, he is a dentist, his name is Walter Palmer. He said that he didn't know the killing of the lion was illegal and because of the backlash from this incident he appears to have gone in to hiding as our Ryan Young reports.

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RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Where is Dr. Walter J. Palmer?

MARK DAYTON, MINNESOTA GOVERNOR: I'm so disgusted with that man to shoot any lion. But more on a lion like that, out of the, you know, preserve and shoot him. I mean, how could anyone think that is sport? Just appalling.

YOUNG: CNN tried to find him at his Minneapolis home but no one answered the door. In fact he has gone underground after releasing this statement which read in part quote "I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity that I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Preserves are meant to preserve wildlife not just lure them off and poach them.

YOUNG: Now, Dr. Palmer, a wealthy dentist from Minneapolis find himself under a torrent of criticism after a conservation group alleged that Dr. Palmer and his guides lured Cecil out of the park sanctuary and shot it with a bow and arrow, then pursuing the animal another 40 hours before killing, skinning and beheading him, all for a trophy kill. Zimbabwe authorities say Palmer paid at least $50,000 for the hunt.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We lost one of the icons. Lion which was popularly known in India as Cecil.

YOUNG: And now, the dentist with a practice and a home this this upscale neighborhood finds himself being hunted as questions remain of whether he will face charges in Zimbabwe. Today, protesters took to the streets in from this Minnesota office which it since been shattered.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He can apologized. And so (INAUDIBLE), but for us, it is more about we are here for Cecil. We are not here for Dr. Palmer.

YOUNG: But this is not the first time Dr. Palmer's big game hunting hobby has got him in trouble. Court documents show that an individual, the same age as the dentist was put on probation years earlier for killing a black bear in Wisconsin and then lying to U.S. fish and wildlife services about it.

He pleaded guilty, he got probation and paid a $3,000 fine. And in Zimbabwe, conservation officials say that the hunters tried to destroy the research tracking collar Cecil wore. These two men seen here has since been arrested for the slaying. A professional hunter and landowner released on $1,000 bail. Both facing upwards of ten years in jail. Their attorney says they are innocent. Dr. Palmer says he relied on their expertise as guides to quote "ensure a legal hunt."

[01:25:48] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is a bad image for Africa and it shouldn't be condoned. And I think action should be taken. YOUNG: Put back state side, questions still remain of what is to

become of Dr. Palmer? With many on social media mourning the lion's demise, steadily coming to foiled anger and outrage. Even "Late Night Show" host Jimmy Kimmel responded at one point choking up.

JIMMY KIMMEL, HOST, LATE NIGHT SHOW: If you want to do something, if you want to make it in to a positive -- sorry. OK, I'm good. Make a donation and support them at the at least, maybe we can show the world that not all Americans are like this jack hole here.

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ASHER: Jimmy Kimmel very emotional there. But Kimmel was referring to the Oxford University wildlife conservation program that had been researching Cecil before his death. You can find more about their work by visiting the wildcru.com.

VAUSE: Dot org, by the way, not dotcom, just in case you want to go there.

OK. We will take a short break. When we come back, a lot more out breaking news, investigators are on their way to the western Indian Ocean for a closer look at airplane debris that could be from Malaysia airlines flight 370.

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[01:30:23] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. The latest on the breaking news. Airplane debris found the Western Indian Ocean could be from Malaysia Airlines flight 370 which vanished 17 months ago. A source tells CNN the debris appears to be a part of the wing from a Boeing triple seven, the same type of plane as MH370.

Tom Foreman takes a closer look at the debris and what it may tell investigators.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This piece of debris is about seven feet long, three or four feet wide, and we're now told it is consistent with what you would find on a 777 made by Boeing.

Let's bring up a model of the missing plane and talk about where you would find it on the plane. Our aviation analysts say it would likely be on the backside of the left wing, right in here. A controlling flaperon as they call it. So it meets the first part of a test for the match. It is the right type of piece to find and the right color, condition. It has barnacles on it. It is something consistent in the water for 500 day s roughly.

Now you have to check out the identifiers or serial numbers on this piece. Most every part has serial numbers on it, like this seat cushion from a different plane. If they find the serial number and it matches the Malaysia Air flight, then that is a deal. They will know. They have evidence of what happened to that plane. Doesn't answer the question how did it wind up where it is. Remember

all the search areas for this plane were near the coast of Australia over here. How did this get all the way over there, some 2300 miles or more away? That's where they have to look at the currents and see if in fact ocean currents were strong enough to push it to Reunion Island and give us maybe the first physical piece of what happened to this missing plane.

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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: That was our Tom Foreman there.

CNN Mary Schiavo says, if the plane debris is from a triple seven, she is fairly confident it is from MH370. I spoke to her a while ago.

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MARY SCHIAVO, CNN AVIATION ANALYST: There haven't been that many plain plane crashes there. One in 2009 if this part was from that plane crash. That was not a Boeing plane and not a triple seven. It would have been much more water damage and more covered with barnacles. By process of elimination it certainly seemed to point to the Malaysia Airlines plane.

ASHER: The flaperons, this piece of debris that was found, the flaperon, a combination of the flaps and the alerons that are used to turn the plane and take off and landing, does that tell us anything of what could have happened here?

SCHIAVO: It can. Obviously, if you have the flaps extended, if they are down it gives a greater surface area and more lift. It is important in landing. You have to put the flaps down and for take off you have to have them set in a certain area, too. Clearly the plane wasn't taking off. Some might suggest if this flap was down that perhaps the plane was in some sort of a landing configuration or trying to get extra lift or thought they would have to make a water landing or the complete opposite. That the plane was on auto pilot and no one was controlling it and it was part of a stall. In other words, the plane had lost the speed that it needed to go forward and it was spiraling down and turning.

ASHER: Initially, the search area was focused off of Australia. Now it has been found, a piece of debris, potentially, I want to emphasize it could be been found near Madagascar. Does that tell us where other pieces of debris could also be?

SCHIAVO: Well, there are two schools of thought. One is that it traveled the two to three thousand mile actress the search area with the currents. The currents are strong. The currents would be taking the pieces in that direction. However, if I was directing a search I wouldn't want to rely on that. I probably would go back out and search in the areas closer to the point where there's washed ashore to -- and certainly comb the shores of the area and look at the shores along Africa to see if there are any parts of any other countries on the other side of the island. And Madagascar, as well. Because, you know, parts can travel long distances. And I have had plane crash investigations that I have worked on that they have washed up years later. I'd want to look a little closer to the Reunion Island.

ASHER: Finally, Mary, what sort of closure are will this debris bring to those 239 families, do you think if it is indeed part of MH370?

[01:35:08] SCHIAVO: You know, I have had the opportunity to speak to many, many of them. They have reached out for information. You know, it will bring information and it will, of course, let them know if this is a piece of the plane, where the plane finally did come to rest in to the ocean. But closure isn't really real for them and will never be because there are too many unanswered questions and mysteries. They have never had an opportunity to lay their loved ones to rest. I don't think they will ever have closure but this will answer an important question of where are they.

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ASHER: Those families may indeed never have any closure.

Mary Schavio speaking to me earlier there, the former inspector general of the U.S. Department of Transportation. She is now an attorney for victims of transportation accidents.

John?

VAUSE: Zain, about 3500 migrants have tried to cross the channel tunnel from France to the United Kingdom in the last two days. French official says nine migrants have died since June attempting this dangerous journey. Some risked their lives by hopping fences and trying to jump onto trucks or trains which then take them to the U.K. Many of these migrants are from Africa as well as the Middle East.

ASHER: To the U.S. now where Secretary of State John Kerry is facing tough questions from Senate Republicans over the Iran nuclear deal.

VAUSE: Barbara Starr has more on heated exchanges on Capitol Hill, including one with a Republican presidential candidate.

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UNIDENTIFIED SENATOR: They can walk, they can legally walk from this agreement.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The fireworks over the Iran nuclear deal getting hotter each day.

SEN. MIKE LEE, (R), UTAH: Why on earth didn't we insist as a condition press dense to getting any deal at all that Iran, for the love of god cease and desist from its terrorist ambitions.

JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: It would be great, ideal if one could negotiate that. We felt we had to keep this targeted on the greatest threat of all that you have just defined, which is the potential of their having a nuclear weapon.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: And a stunning revelation from the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, revealing his view on a key part of the agreement which lifts sanctions on ballistic missiles in eight years and lifts sanctions against conventional arms trade in five.

SEN. KELLY AYOTTE, (R), NEW HAMPSHIRE: When you became before the committee then you said under no circumstances should we relieve pressure on Iran on those issues. Was it your military recommendation that we not agree to lifting of those sanctions?

GEN. MARTIN DEMPSEY, CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF: Yes. And I used the phrase as long as possible and then that was the point at which the negotiation continued. But yes that was my military advice.

STARR: One Senator, a presidential candidate, pressing the defense secretary on how he views the Iranian regime.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Does the supreme leader's religious views compel him over time to destroy Israel and attack America?

ASHTON CARTER, DEFENSE SECRETARY: I don't know. I don't know the man. I only --

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GRAHAM: Well, let me tell you, I do.

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GRAHAM: I know the man. I know what he wants. If you don't know that, this is not a good deal.

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VAUSE: Lindsey Graham there, the Senate Republican presidential candidate, closing out that report there from Barbara Starr.

We should not, Congress begun a 60-day review period of the deal and is expected to vote on it come September.

ASHER: To India now where that country has executed a man for plotting the 1993 bombings in Mumbai that killed 257 people. He was hanged inside of a jail in western India earlier today. A trial court sentenced him to death in 2007.

VAUSE: He was considered a key conspirator behind 12 bomb blasts that ripped through hotels, markets and buildings in Mumbai on March 12th, 1993, the deadliest terror attack in the country's history.

ASHER: We'll take a quick break here on CNN NEWSROOM. When we come back, New England Patriot star, Tom Brady, now taking his case to federal court. That's after the NFL upheld his four-game suspension. The furious response from the team's owner coming up.

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[01:42:26] ASHER: Welcome back. We want to get you caught up on our breaking news. A team of investigators is headed to the remote Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean. That's where a piece of airplane debris has been found that could possibly be from Malaysia Airlines flight 370.

VAUSE: A source tells CNN, aircraft maker Boeing says it appears to be a part of the wing from one of the triple sevens, the same type of plane from MH370. The jetliner disappeared in March of last year on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

ASHER: To the U.S. where a long-serving Congressman has been indicted on racketeering charges by a grand jury.

VAUSE: Representative Chaka Fattah faces 29 charges tied to several allege allegedly corrupt schemes. They are accused of misusing hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign, charitable and federal funds. Fattah denies any wrongdoing.

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REP. CHAKA FATTAH, (D), PENNSYLVANIA: I've never been involved in any wrongdoing, any unlawful activity or misappropriation of federal funds. I have spent my time helping people. We have helped at least 25 million that we can count. And I will spend my time helping millions more.

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VAUSE: Many of the charges stems from Fattah's run in 2007 for mayor of Philadelphia back in 2007. He has been a congressman more than 20 years.

ASHER: Three members of a college fraternity are suing "Rolling Stone" magazine for defamation for a story that accused frat members of gang raping a woman. The three men, who graduated in 2013, attended the University of Virginia. "Rolling Stone" retracted the story after questions arose over the magazine's reporting and the article was then discredited.

VAUSE: The NFL Players Association has filed an appeal in U.S. federal court on behalf of New England Patriot star, Tom Brady. It comes a day after the league upheld his suspension for allegedly using under-inflated footballs during a playoff win earlier this year.

On Wednesday, Patriots owner, Robert Kraft, ripped in to the decision calling it unfathomable.

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ROBERT KRAFT, OWNER, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: I was wrong to put my face in the league. Given the facts, evidence and laws of science that underscore this entire situation, it is completely incomprehensible to me that the league continues to take steps to disparage one of its all-time great players and a man for whom I have the upmost respect. Personally, this is very sad and disappointing to me.

(END VIDEO CLIP) [01:45:10] VAUSE: Brady is maintaining his innocence. He released a statement on Facebook saying, in part, "I did nothing wrong and no one in the Patriots organization did either."

ASHER: Of course, Brady did have his assistant destroy his cell phone.

VAUSE: Unfathomable.

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ASHER: On that note, we will take a break. When we come back --

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ASHER: -- Donald Trump doubles down on his criticism of a lawyer who says he called her disgusting. That story is coming up.

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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. We are following breaking news. CNN has learned that Boeing believes a piece of wreckage found the Western Indian Ocean is consistent with a triple seven. That's the same model as the Malaysia Airline must be number which can disappeared on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

ASHER: A team from Malaysia is heading to Reunion Island for a first- hand look.

CNN safety analyst, David Soucie, says investigators can tell a lot from the debris.

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[01:50:06] DAVID SOUCIE, CNN SAFETY ANALYST: There are two clues that are unique about parts that would have drifted this far. One is you know of course how long it has been in the water. And what debris is on it. You might be able to get clues as to where it traveled from. Secondly, you can also look at the way it is broken apart to determine the entry in to the water, whether was a skid on ditching or a sudden penetration of the water. Just by the way the metal is torn and how it came off the wing. I can see in these photos there is evidence this was a sudden tear. It wasn't something that slowly worked its way off and caused the accident. This is went to some event either running out of fuel or perhaps we don't really know at this point obviously but there are clues that are available from what's on that part.

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ASHER: CNN analyst, David Soucie, there now.

Now an Australian official says finding the debris so far to the West is possible based on drift modeling they have done on ocean currents. VAUSE: To U.S. politics now, and presidential candidate, Donald

Trump, has remained in the headlines for his brash opinions on pretty much everything. Now he is facing allegations that he lashed out and stormed out of a deposition in 2011 because of a breast pump.

ASHER: This is how the lawyer on the other end of that interaction described it on an interview with CNN's "New Day." Listen.

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ELIZABETH BECK, ATTORNEY: He had an absolute meltdown when I said I needed the break and it was for breast pumping purposes. He got up, his face got red, he shook his finger at me and he screamed, "You are disgusting. You are disgusting." And he ran out of there.

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VAUSE: Donald Trump, no stranger to controversy, has fired back. Listen to what he had to say about the lawyer and her accusations in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash.

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DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: She said that you got up, shook your finger, screamed, "You are disgusting, you are disgusting," and ran out.

DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP GROUP: OK. I watched that and I thought it was disgraceful. She's a terrible attorney. She lost her case in to me. In fact, I won legal fees. The judge awarded legal fees which is rare when you get that. But we beat her soundly. She has a terrible reputation in my opinion. She has a terrible reputation. Bottom line, I beat her. And what happened is in the middle of everything it wasn't breast-feed. It was breast pump. She wanted to pump in front of me during a deposition.

BASH: The way she described it as she wanted to take a break --

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TRUMP: Not true. If you ask my lawyer, who was there, he said, I have never seen anything like it. She wanted to breast pump in front of me. I may have said that's disgusting. I may have said something else. I thought it was terrible. She's a horrible person. Knows nothing about me. I see her, she is now the great expert on Donald Trump.

BASH: I guess the question isn't so much that she is an expert but she does have an experience, which she clearly doesn't think was very good.

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TRUMP: She lost. That's what the country needs. The country needs somebody who is going to win. We always lose. We lose on trade, to China, Japan, Mexico. We lose to everybody. Wouldn't it be nice if we could win something? I beat her so badly. She's a vicious, horrible person.

BASH: Because you are not a politician, we don't have your voting record to go on. We don't have -- we have your experience as a businessman, and part of your experience are legal issues. I guess the question is --

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BASH: Can I --

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TRUMP: So many people are on television that don't know me and they are like experts on me. You know when Michael Jackson died -- I knew him very well -- and everybody was talking about Michael Jackson. They didn't know him. Some of them never met him and I laughed to myself. Here they are talking about Michael Jackson and they never met him. And that's happening to me.

BASH: But she -- I don't think that anyone is saying she's an expert on Donald Trump.

TRUMP: She claims to be.

BASH: She is somebody who is recounting an experience she had. I guess my question is --

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TRUMP: -- is she lost.

BASH: My question is people are looking at that, they are thinking, OK, if he blows up at a lawyer in a deposition --

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TRUMP: I didn't blow up.

BASH: -- negotiating, what would you do if Vladimir Putin challenged you?

TRUMP: Excuse me. Oh, believe me. I would do well with him. I get along with people. I didn't blow up at a deposition. I don't blow up. I'm a person --

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BASH: So that didn't happen. She is wrong. That didn't happen?

TRUMP: She made it up.

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VAUSE: Trump firing back defending himself. The remark about the breast pump comes on the heels of another controversy surrounding Trump. Earlier this week, one of his top aides and attorneys told "The Daily Beast" that legally, quote, "You can not rape your spouse." That got a lot of people upset and --

VAUSE: Because it's wrong.

ASHER: Trump said he was wrong and later apologized.

[01:55:04] VAUSE: The aide of Donald Trump said he was wrong and Donald Trump distanced himself from the aide and says he speaks for himself.

Also, it's not just Democrats. Donald Trump has been keeping a lot of scores on candidates within his own party.

ASHER: On Wednesday one of his rivals responded with an unusual challenge. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Mr. Trump had a couple of interesting things to say about you. I'd like to get your response to them. He said you don't belong on the debate stage on August 6th. He questioned your energy, toughness and, quote, unquote, "brain power," that it might require to run a successful campaign. What would you say to Mr. Trump if he were here saying that in your presence?

RICK PERRY, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER TEXAS GOVERNOR: Let's get a pull-up bar out there and see who can do the most pull- ups.

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ASHER: There that is Rick Perry there.

VAUSE: I can't believe he said that. Really?

ASHER: Yeah, but that is U.S. politics for you.

Thank you for watching, everybody. I'm Zain Asher.

VAUSE: I'm John Vause.

Errol Barnett is up next with more CNN NEWSROOM after a short break. Stay with us.

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