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New Body Cam Video Of A White Police Officer Killing A Black Man; Donald Trump Continues Shock And Surprise; The Former Police Officer Accused Of Murder Is Out Of Jail Tonight; The Man Who Hunted And Killed Cecil The Lion Is In Hiding Tonight; Young Dudes Pick A Bar Fight With The Wrong Guy. Aired 9-10p ET

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[21:00:13] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, we have new body cam video of a white police officer killing a black man. Hear what he said today.

Plus, Donald Trump continues shock and surprise. Omarosa from "The Apprentice" is here."

And, it all starts right now with "Top Of The Feed." The former police officer accused of murder is out of jail tonight. Ray Tensing posted bond

just hours after pleading not guilty in the death of Sam DeBose. Let us take a look at the video that is at the center of this case.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RAY TENSING, FORMER UNIVERSITY OF CINCUNNATI POLICE OFFICER WHO KILLED SAMUEL DEBOSE: OK. Well, until I can figure out if you have a license or

not, go ahead and take your seat belt off for me.

SAMUEL DEBOSE, KILLED BY A WHITE POLICE OFFICER: Man, why you --

TENSING: Go ahead and take your seat belt off.

DUBOSE: Stop. Stop!

(GUNSHOT)

(CAR ENGINE)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER (voice-over): Frame by frame, you see the police officer reach for DuBose`s door. He asked DuBose, who is driving on a

suspended license to remove his seatbelt.

DuBose starts the car. It begins to move. The officer`s gun comes out. He shouts, "Stop. Stop!" Then the gunshot. Car speeds up, the

officer is on the ground. The gun in front of the camera.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER (voice-over): This is the video slowed about 20 percent. You can hear the car engine. The officer shout twice and then

that single fatal shot.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: Joining me Samantha Schacher, host of "Pop Trigger" on Hulu.com; Areva Martin, attorney and legal consultant; Mike Catherwood, "Love Line

and KABC Radio co-host, also host of "Chain Reaction" on GSN.

We also have Anahita Sedaghatfar, Attorney of Counsel to the Cochran Firm; Omaarosa, T.V. Personality and former contestant on "The Apprentice"

and Andy Dean, former "The Apprentice" contestant as well, who worked for Donald Trump for seven years.

I have not heard from many of you on this topic. I am going to go to these guys. Omarosa, what do you think of what you just saw?

OMAROSA MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH, T.V. PERSONALITY/ FORMER "THE APPRENTICE" CONTESTANT: You know, I grew up in Ohio. And, I lived in Cincinnati for a

long time. This city has a history of tension between police officers and the black community. This video, unfortunately, does not shock me or

surprise me, because they have been here before with another killing with police officers.

PINSKY: Is it, Anahita, just the fact that we now have the body cams -- the body cams are the game changer? We have been hearing complaints about

police from the African-American community for a long time, and now we are watching it.

ANAHITA SEDAGHATFAR, ATTORNEY OF COUNSEL TO THE COCHRAN FIRM: Yes. A lot of people are asking would this officer even be prosecuted or charged if it

was not for this video camera? I doubt it. I do not think so. And, I have been such an outspoken advocate of making sure -- or saying that

police officers all should have body cams.

It should be mandatory, every department, because we have this technology. Why are we not using it? There should never be a he said, she

said when there is an incident like this, especially when there is a killing and someone is shot and dead. So, I think it should be mandatory.

SAMANTHA SCHACHER, HOST OF "POP TRIGGER" ON HULU.COM: And, of course, you know, this police officer would not be indicted if it was not for this

lapel cam.

PINSKY: Right.

SCHACHER: We know that. We absolutely know that. And, the fact that this officer falsified the statements and threw Sam DeBose`s name

under the mud while also killing him and then also having other officers corroborate his story. What other things did they also falsify? That is

what I want to know. I do not think this was the first time.

PINSKY: Areva, so it is not guilty he says?

AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY AND LEGAL CONSULTANT: You know, I think what Anaheda said is correct about the body cameras being a game changer, but I

think we got to go beyond the body cameras. Because what we see, body cameras is not stopping the behavior. The reality is we cannot teach the

wrong people to do the right things.

So, we got to look at who are these cops that are getting hired? How can someone go in two minutes, you know, escalate the way this guy did.

And, everyone is trying to say that if Sam DeBose would not have started the car, this would not have happened. And, I say that is the wrong

analysis. That is the wrong focus.

The cop had an opportunity to step back. Why is he even putting his hand inside the car? This is a routine traffic stop. Cops that have in

these routine traffic stops have to learn to deescalate and not ever allow it to become a murder like what we just witnessed a minutes ago.

PINSKY: Andy, do you agree with that?

ANDY DEAN, FORMER "THE APPRENTIST" CONTESTANT AND CURRENTLY WORKING FOR DONALD TRUMP FOR SEVEN YEARTS: Yes. I mean I think in this particular

case that cop is a psychopath. I do not know how you read it any other way. I like the body cams, not only the criminal, it is the civil side,

because you have these, you know, criminals suing the police department saying that they were beat up by cops all the time.

But, the body cameras actually showed that they were not. So, it can save taxpayers actually hundreds of millions of dollars. Body cameras,

actually, I think are better for the police than they are for the community.

PINSKY: You say psychopath. I want to bring in John Cardillo. He is former NYPD Officer. He is also a radio host at 1290 WJNO. John,

psychopath? Are we going to far here?

JOHN CORDILLO, FMR. NYPD OFFICER/RADIO HOST AT 1290 WJNO: I love always being the voice of the saint, explained by the panel. Yes, it is going way

too far. Look, we got to look at this whole incident in context. If you look at the June footage of Officer Tensing, they released I believe seven

videos. He is polite and courteous.

He was polite and courteous on this stop until Samuel DeBose who had 60 plus arrests, who had been acquitted multiple times by the same very

soft judge, decided he was not going to comply. He was going to take off and leave. He was going to take off and leave.

(CROSSTALK)

[21:05:12] SCHACHER: Yes. But, John, that does not justify him in killing him.

CARDILLO: Hold on. Let me finish.

SCHACHER: It does not --

CARDILLO: Let me finish my thought.

PINSKY: Finish it, John, please. Go ahead.

CARDILLO: Hold on. You have a cop who is acting courteously and professionally, who decided that he was not going to comply. Now, we were

not there, but I like this video. Because if you dissect this video frame by frame as I have today, hours I spent dissecting this case to prep it for

my show this weekend. I see tons of reasonable doubt.

Now, that said, if the officers lied and falsified reports, departmentally charge them, criminally charge them, but that is not murder.

And, every defense attorney who has ever been on your panel, Dr. Drew, who is here tonight knows that they could turn this video on its head and

create reasonable doubt and they will never get 12 jurors to convict on murder.

PINSKY: Anahita?

SEDAGHATFAR: I totally disagree with that, Dr. Drew. As a defense attorney, I have handled these types of cases quite frequently. And, I

always say on your show, there is never such a thing as a slam-dunk case. But, when you heard the D.A. here saying that I am going to get a murder

conviction?

I do not blame him. I think that he can, because this is all about credibility. The officer is going to say, I acted in self-defense. But,

when you have this objective video evidence, you cannot dispute it, and it is totally contradicting the statement that the officer gave his

credibility`s shot.

PINSKY: Omarosa.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Immediately, they start to attack the victim -- you know, he 60 plus arrests. Do you think that this officer knew that when he

pulled his gun out in one moment, shoots the guy in the head? There were ways to deal with it. He could have stepped back. He could have found a

way to communicate. Get out of your vehicle, sir, but he did not.

MICHAEL CATHERWOOD, "LOVE LINE" AND KABC RADIO CO-HOST/HOST OF "CHAIN REACTION" ON GSN: I calmly agree with Mr. Cardillo and I am always saying

that we should at least analyze the fact that the suspect in all these videos or these police-involved shootings, you know -- or beatings, you

know, they commonly are committing a crime and the cop has no other choice.

But, in this particular case, I mean he pulled his gun and shot at a guy when there is really very little evidence that there was any threat

towards that officer for his life. And, that really wreaks of something that is really -- I mean you got to think -- think about pulling your gun

as a law enforcement or even as a citizen. Pulling a firearm at that close a range and pulling the trigger. That is really intense.

PINSKY: And, John, you even think it is a reflexive reaction he had that he did not sort of willfully pull the gun or something -- pull trigger?

Having the gun out is the problem, right?

CARDILLO: Yes. Yes. Look, first of all, we can dissect this video frame by frame and create reasonable doubt. So, thanks, doc, for letting me

rebut. But there are a few firearms experts that were commenting today.

I mean, really Top Notch guys in the training field, guys that have trained police and Delta operators, Navy S.E.A.L.S, who feel this might be

a situation, and I do not disagree with them. It is what they call reflective discharge.

Now, tactically, I think the officer made a big mistake reaching into the vehicle. But reflective discharge occurs, and it is a physiological

response when the officer clenched DeBose`s shirt with his left hand and had his finger on the trigger with his right hand. His brain effectively

caused both hands to clank discharging the firearm.

PINSKY: Why you do not pull the gun out?

SCHACHER: Yes.

MARTIN: I just thought -- Dr. Drew, about him reaching in his car, we saw that in Sandra Bland, too. We saw this --

PINSKY: Hold on, Sam.

MARTIN: Hold on a second. We saw this aggressive policing, where police are reaching into cars trying to pull people out, and that is a

formula for disaster. If you are reaching inside a car, quite naturally there is going to be some altercation. So, why are the police in both Sam

DeBose and Sandra Bland reaching their bodies or hands into cars?

CATHERWOOD: And, in terms of reflective discharge --

PINSKY: Hold thoughts. Hold the thoughts. Hold thoughts. We are going to continue the conversation. I am glad I was able to talk over Mike on

that one.

And, later, the more Donald Trump says the higher his ratings go. Andy Omarosa know him well. I will get their insight and the panel after this.

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[21:09:04] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Frame by frame you see the police officer reach for DeBose`s door. DeBose starts the car, and the

car begins to move. From a second body camera attached to a different officer, you can hear what Tensing says happened.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TENSING: I just got tangled in the car. I thought he was going to run me over.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER (voice-over): Tensing`s attorney says his client feared for his life.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

STEW MATTHEWS, RAY TENSING`S ATTORNEY: He says he was dragged, and I think that that is accurate. I think that video bears that out.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MEGAN SHANAHAN, !HAMILTON COUNTY MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE: What is the plea?

ATTY: MATTHEWS: The plea is not guilty.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER (voice-over): Charges, murder and voluntary manslaughter for the shooting of 43-year-old Samuel DeBose.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JUDGE SHANAHAN: The bond will be $1 million anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a courtroom.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

JUDGE SHANAHAN: You will conduct yourselves at all times, appropriately.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PINSKY: And, just hours after that arraignment, former Officer Ray Tensing posted bond. He walked out of jail. He has pleaded not guilty in the

shooting death of Sam DeBose during what is called a routine traffic stop. Back with Sam, Areva, Mike, John, Anahita, Omarosa and Andy.

Take a look at this comment from Hilton on "Reddit." He says, "A police officer, quote, "The one thing my field training officer is drilled

into my head was, there will be people who get away and drive off from you. When that happens, focus on the license plate." And, Omarosa -- and Mike,

both of you, I drove away from a police officer once. I just remember this, when this --

SEDAGHATFAR: You did?

PINSKY: Yes.

SCHACHER: He did. Yes.

SEDAGHATFAR: Oh my goodness.

PINSKY: Well, I will not have you be my defense attorney. What do you mean what?

(CROSSTALK)

SEDAGHATFAR: I am just shocked.

PINSKY: No. I was -- I was --

MARTIN: You did not get shot.

SCHACHER: No.

MARTIN: All right. All right.

PINSKY: That is my point. That is my point. I did not even think about getting shot or did not --

SEDAGHATFAR: Why did you do it?

CATHERWOOD: Why did you do it?

SEDAGHATFAR: Do not -- do not -- Do not get mixed up in the details. I will tell you.

(LAUGHING)

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Can I just interject, everybody. First of all, this is the University of Cincinnati police.

PINSKY: Yes.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: We used to think of them as like rent-a-cop. These are not police officers that you are thinking about -- you think

about like a Cincinnati police officer. These are guys with little red and white stripe on the side of them.

[21:15:00] He is probably not taking them very, very seriously by the way. So, I do not want people to think that this is like a police

officer that you would standardly see. It is a University of Cincinnati Police Officer.

SCHACHER: That is an interesting point, though. John, if I can ask you because you are the expert in this, what is the protocol? What is the

training of a university police officer in comparison to like the LAPD?

PINSKY: And, why not let the guy drive away --

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: -- and go in pursuit for crying out loud?

SCHACHER: Exactly.

PINSKY: And, I will tell you my story after -- Anahita still feels as though she should she should be defending.

SEDAGHATFAR: I am shocked.

PINSKY: Go ahead, John.

CARDILLO: I want to hear Dr. Drew`s story. Now, it is a great question. And, I spoke to several active duty Cincinnati City Police

Officers today. The standards and training for the University of Cincinnati Police in terms of tactical training is apparently a bit less.

And, their charter allows them to go a few blocks off campus.

MARTIN: That is it.

CARDILLO: So, it was a result -- what I was told by Cincinnati Police Officers only a few hours ago, it was a result to an increasing robberies

of students to increase the police presence, so that University of Cincinnati students feel safer both city P.D. presence and University P.D.

presence. So, to that point it does appear that the training is a bit less and there were some tactical errors here.

MARTIN: And, that raises the question, if they expanded their territory to address issues of student robberies, again why is he pulling this guy over?

This is Sunday at 6:30 P.M. for a missing license plate. And, Sam says, "Yes, I do not have my license. I do not have it on me. I live around the

corner."

The guy could have said, "Pull the car over. Get out. Walk around the corner. Go home, get your license. Come back drive the car." There

were so many other options at this point. But for him to pull the gun out is just inexcusable.

And, I think we have to talk about, Dr. Drew, that second officer, who was prepared to back the lie of the first officer. Obstruction of

justice and should be indicted himself.

SCHACHER: Absolutely.

PINSKY: Do not we have his lapel cam? Will not we have that --

SEDAGHATFAR: Yes. There are two lapel cams. I think that is what makes it that much more egregious in terms of reasonable doubt not being a

possibility in this case, because he lied. He lied. He is inconsistent.

The video shows that it is totally inconsistent with his statement. And then now you have apparently other officers on the scene who

corroborated his misstatement. That is a problem.

PINSKY: And, you said -- Listen, I am no fan of what this guy did or anything. But, you say --

SCHACHER: Well, you have done it, Dr. Drew.

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: No -- Because I have been a perpetrator, yes. I will tell you the story.

MARTIN: Driving while white, though, not driving while black.

PINSKY: I know.

MARTIN: It is different.

PINSKY: And, that is one of the reasons I bring it up. Well, and the policewoman was an African-American woman that I pulled away from. And, I

will tell you the story in a second. But, you said he lied, and -- but you know as an attorney that the eyewitness and the memory of what people

went through is vastly different from the facts, almost always.

SEDAGHATFAR: That is very true.

PINSKY: So, are you saying it is willful lying or just a convenient distortion or what is it?

SEDAGHATFAR: Well, eyewitness testimony is not necessarily reliable, but in this --

PINSKY: It is never reliable, right? Always, never.

SEDAGHATFAR: I do not know about never --

PINSKY: And, it may be accurate --

SEDAGHATFAR: -- But it is notoriously unreliable.

PINSKY: There you go.

SEDAGHATFAR: You always need additional information.

PINSKY: Yes.

SEDAGHATFAR: In this case, yes, he is going to obviously -- maybe if he is confronted with his life, say maybe, "I did not remember. It was the

heat of the moment." But, he made these statements supposedly and he put them in a police report.

SCHACHER: Right.

MARTIN: So, that the cracker, Anahita. This guy was not there. He did not witness what happened.

PINSKY: Oh, he did not? He did not?

MARTIN: No. He came up after.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Of the other officer.

MARTIN: He came up after the incident had occurred. So, he did not witness the so-called being dragged by the car that the first officer

reported.

SCHACHER: They all talked about it.

MARTIN: So, it was, you know, getting together and getting their stories together. And, this D.A. was very smart. He would not release that first

video because he did not want the first officer to have an opportunity to conform his story to the tape.

CATHERWOOD: Yes. Honestly, I think maybe there needs to be a more of an emphasis on training. I do not know how to put it, but with bedside manner

for cops, because --

PINSKY: You need an independent office, an office of inspector general sort of thing.

CATHERWOOD: Look what has happened here in L.A. --

SEDAGHATFAR: It happens to so many other industries.

PINSKY: Hospital, doctors. Yes.

SEDAGHATFAR: I am surprised that we do not have that in the police department.

CATHERWOOD: It worry so much. It worry so much, because in Los Angeles, I will tell you. In the mid 90s, you could not have anyone with a worse

reputation than the LAPD.

PINSKY: Yes.

SEDAGHATFAR: Right.

CATHERWOOD: And, they went out of their way to rearrange that. And, now - -

PINSKY: And, they have.

CATHERWOOD: And, they have really, really have. They stand above the rest of the urban kind of police departments.

MARTIN: Guys the big elephant in this room is race. We are talking about training. We are talking about inspector generals. We have to talk about

implicit bias. This guy -- First thing, he says, "Come on, Sam, you know your license is suspended."

SCHACHER: Right. Without knowing.

MARTIN: Without knowing. Without knowing that he made an assumption because he did not look like Dr. Drew in a nice suit and a nice tie and the

color of his skin. He made some assumptions. And, this would not have been the same had it been a white male.

PINSKY: John, real quick.

CARDILLO: Yes. You know, let me say one thing that the officer rule out training and experience will have to fundamentally disagree. Number one,

we know now -- I did thorough research today.

Sam DeBose`s license was suspended indefinitely probably for life. He had multiple convictions, but he was driving a car registered in someone

else`s name. He could not produce identification. It was missing a front license plate. All of these things do tie into an officer`s training and

experience.

[21:20:00] I find no problem with the officer making the trained experienced assumption that he did not have a license, because the officer

was right. And, whatever tactical errors might have occurred, the officer`s suspicions --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH Tactical error?

CARDILLO: -- about DeBose --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You got to get out of here. Tactical error? Shooting a man in the head is a tactical error during a traffic stop?

CARDILLO: Yes, because you are never going to get 12 jurors to convict.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Oh, get out of here.

CARDILLO: DeBose still resisted. He closed the door and tried to drive away. As much as you want to in a progressive mindset blame the cop,

you will never get 12 jurors to convict on murder.

(LAUGHING)

MARTIN: John, the cop shot the guy.

(CROSSTALK)

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: The cop shot him in the head.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: He always will be the one to blame.

CARDILLO: It is not murder. It is not murder. And, you defense attorneys know, you would never get a murder conviction and you would

easily get a murder acquittal dissecting this video point by point.

MARTIN: We unequivocally disagree.

SEDAGHATFAR: I am not quite sure about that in this particular case. And, I do not think we have --

CARDILLO: Well, talking about credibility --

SEDAGHATFAR: Well, hold on. I do not think that we necessarily have to pretend that this victim was an angel.

PINSKY: Yes.

SEDAGHATFAR: He did not follow instructions. That is true. He did sort of argue with the officer. That is true. But that does not justify

what the officer did.

(CROSSTALK)

CATHERWOOD: We would not be having this conversation --

MARTIN: I do not agree with that. I do not agree with that.

CATHERWOOD: We would not be having this conversation if the cop dragged him out of the car and handcuffed him. It is the fact that he

almost -- almost impossibly pulled his gun and shot him at point blank range practically.

PINSKY: So, what happened, Anahita, when you defend me? I was driving across the Rose Parade Route. I was in the middle of the street.

SEDAGHATFAR: OK.

PINSKY: People had let me through open barriers up. And, at the last minute, this cop started banging on my car. I thought she did not

understand what I was doing. I tried to just drive across street, so I drove across and park. And, she came in, gave me a -- what you called,

resisting an officer or something --

(LAUGHING)

SEDAGHATFAR: Really? Did she gave you a ticket? You should have called me.

PINSKY: Arrest ticket. It was 20, 30 years ago.

SEDAGHATFAR: Oh, I was not born yet, Dr. Drew.

PINSKY: It turned out -- Long story.

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: I know. Omarosa. Punch her for me, will you?

SEDAGHATFAR: Hug me. Do not punch me.

PINSKY: I do not, insolent woman.

Next up support for Donald Trump appears to be still growing. I will ask my "Apprentice" alumni guests what they think. Back after this.

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[21:26:00] DONALD TRUMP, 2016 U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When Mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. They are not

sending you. They are not sending you. They are sending people that have lots of problems.

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PINSKY: Donald Trump, racist or misunderstood?

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TRUMP: They are bringing drugs. They are bringing crime. They are rapists.

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VANESSA BARNETT, SOCIAL COMMENTATOR: He is a racist! He is a racist!

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ROLONDA WATTS, HOST OF "ROLONDA ON DEMAND" PODCAST: I do not think he is a racist. I think he is a strategist.

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TRUMP: I want to save the country. Our country is going to hell. We have a problem. I want to make America great again.

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ERNIE WHITE, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: You got one candidate right now who does not care about politics! And, that should be refreshing to everybody.

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MARTIN: All Donald Trump wants to advance is Donald Trump! Every speech he gives he talks about how wealthy he is.

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TRUMP: I am using my own money. I am really rich.

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STEPHEN BALDWIN, ACTOR/FORMER "THE APPRENTICE" CONTESTANT: I think he had make a great president.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Why?

BALDWIN: Because he is not a politician.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, 2016 U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He should not be commander in chief. He is a jackass.

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PINSKY: Donald Trump burst onto the scene just last month with some of those controversial statements about Mexicans and the presidential race has

not been the same since. Today in Scotland, he addressed the Hispanic vote. Take a look.

(LAUGHING)

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TRUMP: I did well. In fact, the Hispanics poll came out two days ago where I am number one with the Hispanics. I know you are surprised to

hear that, but I am number one with Hispanics. And, I said that if I get the nomination, I will win with the Hispanics. So, it has been another

great thing.

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PINSKY: Back with Sam, Areva, Mike, Anahita, Omarosa, and Andy. A new national poll says if the Republican Primary were held today, Trump

would win. Omarosa, your vote?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I am a democrat. What are you guys asking? I am watching this "Trump Show." And, it is the most fascinating thing I have

ever seen in the Republican Primaries in my entire life. The best thing that happened to Republican politics.

PINSKY: And, both you guys know him personally, either you worked for him or worked with him or been in competitions he has created. Does this man

want to be president, Omarosa?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You know, can I point something out? There was this whole campaign to draft Donald Trump to run for president. Do you remember

this when we first got on "The Apprentice"? He did not get into this because he just want it. There were people recruiting him to run for

president.

PINSKY: Why him?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I met him in 2003.

PINSKY: Why him do you think?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Because he is a good businessman. Whether that translates to government, I do not know.

SCHACHER: Right.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I worked in the White House. You need a different set of skills to kind of work in that bureaucratic environment,

but Donald may work.

PINSKY: Yes. Or Andy just blowing up all that bureaucratic nonsense. Is that a better way to approach it?

DEAN: Right. I think it is a reaction to seven years of Obama, the extreme political correctness. Watch everything you say, and Trump just

blows all that away. He is totally blunt. When he says something crazy, the media says are you going to apologize? And, he is like no and then he

takes it even further. And, people -- it is refreshing. It is different. I think it is cool.

(LAUGHING)

SEDAGHATFAR: It is.

SCHACHER: I do not know if it is refreshing. I get it because I do like the transparency in what you see is what you get. But I also do not

think that the good tactic when you are having discussions with world leaders. If you do not agree with them, "Oh, you are an idiot and walk out

the door."

CATHERWOOD: It is not a good tactic to run the country. It is a great tactic to win the republican primary. It is fantastic.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: All the media attention. He makes these outlandish statements and gets all of the conference though.

DEAN: I disagree. I disagree. Reagan had that thing where he had a vision. He was a very simple guy. Trump has a vision. He keeps it very,

very simple. The people understand that. And, this complex nuance that Obama has, there is a rejection of that. The Obama is simple. It is very

Reagan.

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: I remember Reagan saying very much like, sort of making America great. That was sort of Reagan`s thing.

CATHERWOOD: Without question -- Without question, there is similarities especially with someone who acutely knows how to use the camera to his

advantage. But President Reagan was always before and after his time in the White House a very humble man that liked you as soon as he was outside

of the White House put on his denim and be this kind of every man. And, Donald Trump has a helicopter with his name on it. And, you know what I am

saying? And I am not --

PINSKY: Different time, Mike.

CATHERWOOD: I am not saying this to disparage him in any way, what I am saying is that I think that the comparisons get blown out of the water when

you compare their personalities and how they drastically --

[21:30:00] DEAN: He is in a joke. He is very self-deprecating. And, the humor will come out you will see in the debates and that works. And I am

not --

PINSKY: He is in on the joke. That is a really interesting thing --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: He has a great sense of humor. You have to know him to understand him.

DEAN: Dr. Drew is about to analyze my genes.

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: But, being in on the joke is an interesting thing. My question though is, would not ways he is getting attention, and I keep

saying this and people probably getting tired of me hearing me this. He picks a scapegoat and marginalizes them. That is a very powerful way to --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: No, they mimic him. When you start calling his followers crazy, you open up a whole can of worms.

PINSKY: Well, that is right. They become unified as being a scapegoat in population themselves.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: That is right.

PINSKY: It is the Mexicans. They are scapegoated. It is the Hispanics, they are scapegoated.

(LAUGHING)

MARTIN: Now are casual mothers.

PINSKY: We got that whole thing, too. Can we pull that up?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: My favorite Trump story ever.

PINSKY: I am going to pull it up. Can you, guys, get it for me? I think we have it. Here it comes. I want to tell Omarosa`s very favorite Trump`s

story. During a 2011 deposition, an attorney alleges that Trump quote -- Had a meltdown. A quote, "Absolute meltdown," when she requested a break

to pump breast milk. Here is what Trump told CNN.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: She wanted to breast pump in front of me. And, I may have said that is disgusting. I may have said something else. I thought it was

terrible. She is a horrible person, knows nothing about me. I see her, she is now great expert on Donald Trump. I beat her so badly. She is a

vicious, horrible person.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DANA BASH, CBB CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: People are looking at that. They are thinking, OK. If he blows up at a lawyer in a deposition

negotiating --

TRUMP: I did not blow up.

BASH: What would you do if Vladimir Putin challenged you?

TRUMP: Excuse me. Believe me, I had do very well with him. I get along with people. I did not blow up at a deposition. I do not blow up. I am a

person that knows exactly --

BASH: So that did not happen?

TRUMP: Of course.

BASH: She is wrong. That did not happen.

TRUMP: She made it up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: But, here is what is so fascinating. Who would not love to tell an attorney, who is doing a hostile deposition, "You are a horrible,

horrible person." I have thought that many times when I saw it. I had love to go to tell him to go down, but he would never do that, obviously.

SEDAGHATFAR: On the case, he got his attorney`s fees. And, I do not think that is going to hurt him, just like calling, you know, Mexican illegal

immigrants. That did not hurt him. Just like calling McCain a non-hero did not hurt. That did not hurt him. He is number one, Dr. Drew.

SCHACHER: OK.

SEDAGHATFAR: He is number one in the polls.

SCHACHER: But, it is still insulting to working moms. It is.

PINSKY: That is right.

SCHACHER: Because, listen --

SEDAGHATFAR: But, then --

SCHACHER: Hold on now, Anahita.

SEDAGHATFAR: Let me just make my point.

SCHACHER: No. Let me talk.

SEDAGHATFAR: I was just going to say, whatever it is --

MARTIN: You are like Donald Trump and John McCain right now.

(LAUGHING)

SEDAGHATFAR: No. No. I just wanted to just make the point of whatever the reason is --

CATHERWOOD: You, guys, just go kiss and make up.

(LAUGHING)

SEDAGHATFAR: Mwuah.

SCHACHER: Love you.

SEDAGHATFAR: Love you.

SCHACHER: Love you.

SEDAGHATFAR: I was just going to say whatever it is that he is doing is working, because this is not hurting him, it is helping him. And, I think

even if he does not really want to be president, if that is not his intention this is going to translate into money for him.

SCHACHER: OK .

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: But, Sam. Sam -- I want to let you give you tons of room here, which is there is collateral damage every time he makes one of these.

SCHACHER: That is what I am saying.

PINSKY: It is the Hispanics. It is the moms trying to work and be attorneys.

SCHACHER: Exactly. If I am -- you know, I will hope to be a working mom soon. You know, I look at my sister and if you do not pump, it hurts.

And, you know what? I looked at the documents, and there was supposed to be a break. Donald Trump said, "No, we are going to power through this

deposition. Power through this deposition."

She was not able to pump. And, at the end of the day, these are feeding tools, OK? Their primary function is to feed babies. It is not

that big of a deal if she needs to leave to pump her damn breasts.

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: Mike, Mike stop it. Stop it.

CATHERWOOD: The truth is Donald desperately wanted to take care of that for her.

SCHACHER: No, it is insane. It is insulting.

CATHERWOOD: He wanted do it on his own. He did not want to let the machine take care of it. He is going to go right across the table with --

you know, peek back his little comb over --

PINSKY: Mike stop. Stop.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Listen. As the Trump whisperer, let me just let you in.

PINSKY: Trump whisperer, please.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Number one, Donald Trump does want to be president. So, when people ask me why he does not go into anything without winning.

In that same clip he just said, "I destroyed her." He likes to win. He is going to go into these debates.

He is going to decimate everyone. I am going to be sitting with my popcorn, Dr. Drew, and I am going to be watching every moment. That is why

America is paying attention to Trump. He is interesting and he is not like any other politician you have ever seen.

PINSKY: I will be back with the Trump whisperer, and later the man who hunted and killed Cecil the lion. He is in hiding tonight. I will talk

about that after this.

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[21:34:15] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: There is a silent majority out there. We are tired of being pushed around, kicked around, and acting and being led by stupid people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEGMET CHUBAKA (ph), AUDIENCE MEMBER: First of all, you all need to leave Trump alone, OK? Because I am for Trump today and forever. He can make

this world a better place because he knows how to make money. He knows how to get money.

(LAUGHING)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHUBAKA: He said a lot more greater things that nobody focused on one great thing that he did say, and I listened to him. And, he said that

he could make this world a better financial place, which is what we need, because we are really in debt.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: But he is like you and I. Just because he has money does not mean that he does not have feelings.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is refreshing because we have had so many politically correct presidents. And, I appreciate what they have

done. But, I am ready for a straight to the point entrepreneur to be in charge of the country.

PINSKY: Do you hear this?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is not a racist. And he is just against immigration, because we do have a lot of illegals in our community.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I understand that, you know, everyone calls him a racist or buffoon, but he is honestly just like a normal person

like he is just very real.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is off the cuff. He is real.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: We have had so many members of our audience, and many diverse types, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, males, females, all throwing

their support behind Donald Trump. Back with Sam, Areva, Mike, Anahita, Omarosa, and Andy. And Trump whisperer, are you surprised by that?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: It does not surprise me. People love Trump. I meet them in the grocery store. I meet them at the Laundromat. I meet them

everywhere. And, they come up and want to express how much they support Donald Trump.

PINSKY: Let me ask you something. You said you are -- you sort of said you are not really interested in necessarily his policy as voting for a

republican candidate. How do you withstand the spell?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You know what? Donald Trump is interesting. That is what has been missing in the Republican Party. He is interesting, and

he tells it like it is. When you are real to the American people, they respond to it. That is why he is number one in the polls.

[21:40:05] MARTIN: You know, I have a problem with everyone. And, I love you, Omarosa, but this concept that Trump tells it like it is, to me he is

a big bully. He attacks people. Look how he went after that woman. So, telling it like it is may be saying, "You know what? I am uncomfortable if

you breastfeed." But to call that woman vicious --

SCHACHER: Thank you.

MARTIN: And to take her down, that is not being real. That is being a bully. And, how come people do not just call it out the way that it is?

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I am not defending him, by the way. I am just explaining, and I have to separate. Donald Trump is my friend. He is a

politician, but he is my friend, too. I am just going to just tell you that he is not looking to just bully someone. He wants to win. And maybe

--

MARTIN: With that language? The language that he uses?

(CROSSTALK)

SCHACHER: That is not a great example.

PINSKY: How you win.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: He is not a politician.

MARTIN: He said he went to war --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You want him to speak like a politician --

MARTIN: No. I do not want him to speak like a politician. I want him to be respectful of other people. He calls everyone -- If you do not agree

with him, you are stupid. You are automatically stupid. Obama -- everyone in office cannot be stupid.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Have you not seen our show for the last 10 years? Have you not watched "The Apprentice" for the last 10 years? This is not

new.

(LAUGHING)

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: The presidency is not a reality show. The presidency is not a reality show.

SCHACHER: Thank you. That is the problem, and you said it yourself.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: It is. It is.

SCHACHER: But, that is the problem, you said it yourself that this is entertainment where is the popcorn. That should not apply to our

president. That is insane to me.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: Talking about health care or talking about jobs.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I will let you all in a secret. It is.

PINSKY: You worked in the White House.

SCHACHER: For the Republican Party --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I worked in the White House. Let me just give you some perspective. People are tuning in for their leaders to be tough,

to be pushy, to be in the face of their enemy. I am sorry but you are speaking to the crowd that is supporting him.

MARTIN: But being tough -- No one can be tougher than me, but I do not call people stupid!

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Girl, I know that is right.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: I do not call people stupid! I do not attack people. You can be tough and be respectful.

SCHACHER: Yes. Thank you.

DEAN: The country is getting pushed around. You look at the Iranian deal, it is a joke. So, the reaction to that is, Trump is not going to get

pushed around. People like that. And, by the way, he is calling certain people stupid who are stupid up like Rick Perry. I am a conservative but

Rick Perry is stupid and when Donald calls him stupid it is refreshing for the conservatives.

CATHERWOOD: As another conservative, do not you agree there is times when he can poke fun at Lindsey Graham or he does these outlandish things to

gain attention. When he goes and says the country is tired of a dumb administration talking about President Obama. And, I have sincere

political disagreements with President Obama, one thing he is not is stupid.

SCHACHER: Yes.

(CROSSTALK)

DEAN: And, I think it comes to governance. I disagree. The Iranian deal was stupid. It was dumb.

CATHERWOOD: Well, that is a very --

MARTIN: You can disagree with a policy that someone proposes, but that does not make that individual dumb.

CATHERWOOD: You are right, but Areva --

MARTIN: You cannot be dumb. I graduated from Columbia and Harvard Law school. I am sorry. That is a dumb statement.

(CROSSTALK)

CATHERWOOD: There is ever a time when the American people are going to confuse tough talk with actually being a tough person. It is on the heels

of this Iran deal where they truly might feel like the United States at least its government is perceived on a global scale as being soft.

And, right now people are so thirsty for a guy who is going to say not that, "I was uncomfortable that you breastfeed." "She is stupid. I

destroyed her. I am the most terrific person." And, I do in no way agree with that level of decorum. I am saying that. But, he is doing what I

think a lot of people are in deep need for, and that is hearing this unbelievable -- wildly politically incorrect decorum.

SCHACHER: We have not even heard his opinion really on the issue. He has not really broken down the issues.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Well, he has.

SCHACHER: But, not entirely. I just hear him call people idiots --

MARTIN: Well, let us talk about immigration. Let us talk about immigration, Omarosa. Build a wall and deport 11 million illegal --

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: No, no. Keep ones here that are here.

MARTIN: Well, no he says he wants to round up -- he wants to round up the 11 million that are here illegally. And, someone asking --

(CROSSTALK)

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: -- that is what the Republican state should be look like.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: Wait a minute. On CNN, they asked him, "How are you going to get those 11 million people out of the country?" "Oh, I do not know. I

will worry about that later, because the government now cannot do it. They are stupid again. They are stupid, but I will figure it out."

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: We did have George W. Bush. Are you panicking about someone who is not clear on policies?

MARTIN: I am not panicking because the democrats are winning.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: He is still not clear.

MARTIN: I am not panicking because Donald Trump is not going anywhere against Hillary Clinton.

PINSKY: Anahita, you have a point.

SEDAGHATFAR: I was just saying it is resonating with people. I agree with you. I think people are sick of politics as usual. They are

sick of the P.C. police. You do not even see the conservatives that have this much balls if I can say that. So, it is a refreshing to people --

CATHERWOOD: No!

SEDAGHATFAR: Even if you do not agree with him, even the people that do not necessarily agree with the statements that he is making, they still

support him and they like the fact that he is telling it like it is.

PINSKY: You know, I do not know.

MARTIN: I am waiting for him to use the "N" word.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Wait a minute, Areva. I think that is just out of line to say that. That is so out of line --

MARTIN: We are talking about a man who has no boundaries.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Areva, that is out of line.

MARTIN: From the Latinos to vets to nursing moms.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You may dislike Trump, but I know him --

MARTIN: I do not --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: He would not use that word and you are out of line.

MARTIN: OK. We will wait and we will see.

(CROSSTALK)

CATHERWOOD: But, wait. What if, Omarosa?

MARTIN: But this guy has shown no filters when it comes to anybody - -

(CROSSTALK)

CATHERWOOD: I know you know him as a person -- what if he and his people --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: He is my friend. I do not like the idea that you would think that I would sit across a table from a man that would use that

word.

[21:45:00] MARTIN: Your friend is not who we are talking about. We are talking about your friend. We are talking about a GOP candidate.

(CROSSTALK)

CATHERWOOD: What if he and his people, his advisers, realized that the use of that word were to secure him a victory? Would you feel that he

would --

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: That is so ridiculous. We are -- Dr. Drew, get control of this panel. They are going off track.

CATHERWOOD: On the heels of him giving up someone --

(CROSSTALK)

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: It is even insane to even say that.

CATHERWOOD: I am not encouraging him to use it.

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: Guys -- Guys, one at a time.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I am not even going to entertain that question. I know him to the core. You had me here because one, I know him as a person.

PINSKY: You are a whisperer.

MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: As a boss. And I am the Trump whisperer. That line of questioning is so absurd. I cannot even respond to it.

MARTIN: OK. I appreciate your comment --

PINSKY: Andy, do you have anything to add to what the whisperer is telling us about this man? --

MARTIN: -- but I disagree.

PINSKY: Because we are in a lot of -- lot of, you know, sort of wonderment about whether or not this is all show or is this really him. What are we

looking at here?

DEAN: A quick thing. The guy is not a racist. He runs a company of tens of thousands of people. That would be laughable. I will tell quick what

person he is. I remember when he was upgrading his plane from a 727 --

PINSKY: Like we all do.

DEAN: From a 757. And, he said Andy, "Is this necessary?" And, I shrugged my shoulders because I do not really, you know, I do not want to

weigh in. I am a yes man around him. And, then he said, he goes "I am going to get the plane because it is good for the brand."

He is like, "I do not need it. I do not want it, but it is good for the brand." So, he is always thinking. He gets kind of like we said he is

in on the joke and I think for the presidential race, he is in on what he needs to get.

PINSKY: Do you think he will see the United States as a brand that he is trying to sort of --

DEAN: That is a good yes. And, we need to be improved as a brand. We need to toughen up.

PINSKY: That is very interesting. Thank you guys. Thank you, Trump whisperer. I learned a good deal tonight. Thank you guys.

The man who killed Cecil, the lion, is a wanted man tonight. There is a lot of really awful aggression directed toward him whether you feel that

way about him or not. That man may be in danger. Back after this.

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(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: Time for "Click Fix," where my guests tell me what is trending on their Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook feeds. Sam, what do you have?

SCHACHER: OK. So, I have an update for Cecil, the lion.

PINSKY: OK.

SCHACHER: And, this involves Walter Palmer, the dentist, who has been in hiding, but he did send out a note to his patients. Part of it

reads, quote, "I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion. The

media interest in this matter has disrupted our business and our ability to see our patients. I apologize profoundly for this inconvenience."

Now, also he has said that he has been cooperating with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services, but they say something different. They say, quote,

"At this point in time, multiple efforts to contact Dr. Walter Palmer have been unsuccessful."

So, he keeps blaming it on everybody else. He is blaming it on the guides. He is blaming it on the media. Just own it, dude. Buck up. Own

it. You have a history of illegal hunting. It is disgusting.

PINSKY: Sam, loves this guy.

SCHACHER: Arg!

MARTIN: Yes. I think he is afraid of that federal investigation that they just opened.

PINSKY: Oh, is that right?

MARTIN: Yes. So, he is in a lot of trouble.

PINSKY: Areva.

MARTIN: Yes. So, mine is update as well. Remember the story about the Chinese shoppers because the woman got crushed. She was trying to save her

2-year-old child.

PINSKY: Yes. This thing with the escalator --

MARTIN: So, now -- the escalator, yes.

PINSKY: Big thing pops off. The child went in, the mom pulled the child out but she had to get crushed --

MARTIN: She was tragically crushed by the escalator. And, now, on Facebook, Chinese people are posting these incredible pictures of things

they are doing to avoid taking the escalator. They are jumping. They are hopping. They are skipping. They are doing these incredible things, which

are really dangerous. But, there is a lot of fear after this incident, which was so tragic.

PINSKY: You mean they are having trouble?

MARTIN: They are having trouble getting back on the escalator and trusting that they can go up and down without, you know, being crushed. So, they

are, you know, walking like that lady on the side. You see this guy? But that is so dangerous in and of itself. So, I just hope that we do not have

another tragedy because people are trying to avoid the first tragedy that occurred with respect to that child.

PINSKY: All right. Mike, what do you got?

CATHERWOOD: All right. This man was -- This video is unbelievable. This man was almost hit by an SUV at a gas station. Joel Moran from West

Gardner Maine managed to take a step backwards just in the nick of time.

He said not until I saw the video did I realize how close I was. The SUV driver had ignored a stop sign, clipped another vehicle and then

hurdled its way straight towards him. So, I think we have the video. Look at this. It is unbelievable.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY (voice-over): Whoa!

MARTIN (voice-over): Whoohoo!

CATHERWOOD (voice-over): Watch watch!

MARTIN (voice-over): Whoohoo!

PINSKY (voice-over): Wait. What caused this to happen?

CATHERWOOD (voice-over): So, someone ran through stop sign and then got clipped, and then it whirled them out of control.

PINSKY (voice-over): I see. And, it flew him into the gas station.

CATHERWOOD (voice-over): Oh.

MARTIN (voice-over): And it missed him by --

SCHACHER (voice-over): Did not touch him at all? Did not he have any injuries?

CATHERWOOD (voice-over): No. He just walked away. I think he had to check his pants, but you know --

PINSKY (voice-over): Now. He got clipped a little bit. He got tapped. See?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CATHERWOOD: Yes.

SCHACHER: Wow!

CATHERWOOD: And wildly all he is complaining about is how expensive his gas is.

(LAUGHING)

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: All right.

CATHERWOOD: He had a charger. Gas guzzler.

PINSKY: All right, next up. I do not know if you have seen this one. This was lighting up my Facebook page. I called my producer you got to see

it. An older man -- you see this guy that was a boxer, does it sound familiar to you? It is really a good one. Two dudes, young dudes, pick a

bar fight with the wrong guy. I will show you that after this.

(MUSIC PLAYING)

[21:54:34] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: Time for my "Click Fix," and it comes from "The Sunday World" out of Ireland. Of course, the septuagenarian pugilistic center of the

universe. And, so warning to anyone who gets into a bar fight with a septuagenarian. Look at this guy. You cannot really tell before the fight

--

SCHACHER: Wow!

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: They are down and out. Two -- three guys out!

SCHACHER: Wow.

CATHERWOOD: He slipped that knock. Did you see that?

PINSKY: Yes. And, when you see the guy, you really get a sense in this particular video. Look how old he is. He looks frail. Boom, and

that is it.

CATHERWOOD: Wham!

SCHACHER: Is it snowing there? Why is there white stuff all over the ground?

CATHERWOOD: That is people is skin in Ireland.

(LAUGHING)

MARTIN: The other guys will not go in.

PINSKY: No.

CATHERWOOD: Yes, see that guys hanging out? They are like --

PINSKY: Looking at the guys on the ground making sure they knocked --

CATHERWOOD: Who is want some? Ay.

PINSKY: Popeye. Is not that something?

MARTIN: Do not count anyone out because of their age, right?

PINSKY: There we go. No ageism in Ireland. There should not be any here, either. Thanks for having the Trump discussion. I think that was kind of

very interesting. I feel it is not over, this conversation.

SCHACHER: No.

MARTIN: Far from it.

PINSKY: I appreciate it. Reminder, we are on Snap Chat. And, also sometime during the show when we have audience in her periscope. You can

see us there on our Snap Chat, DrDreHLN. Also, be sure to DVR us then you can watch us anytime. Set your DVR. Thank you all for watching. Of

course, we will be here next time, and we will see you then.

[22:00:00] (MUSIC PLAYING)

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