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Recovered Airplane Piece Possibly Belonging to Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane Sent to France for Analysis; Family Members of Usama bin Laden Die in Plane Crash; Current Fundraising Numbers for Presidential Candidates Released; In Zimbabwe Cecil the Lion's Brother Jericho Also Killed in Illegal Hunting Incident; Audio Released of Interaction Involving Cincinnati Police Officer on Trial for Killing a Suspect; Jon Stewart Leaving "The Daily Show." Aired 2-3P ET

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[14:00:04] RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining me. I'm Randi Kaye in for Fredricka Whitfield.

Breaking now, news of two separate terrifying incidents over New York's JFK airport on the very same day, drones flying dangerously close to a JetBlue airliner and a Delta flight while both were on approach to JFK international airport. The drones reportedly were sighted within 100 feet of each flight. First a JetBlue found from Haiti telling controllers at the airport that a drone popped up just below its nose. Then less than three hours later a Delta fight with 154 people on board reporting an unmanned craft 100 feet below its right below. CNN's Nick Valencia following this story for us and joining me now with the very latest. Nick?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, there, Randi. These incidents, close calls between drones and commercial airliners, may happen a lot more often than many people think. We just reached out to the FAA and they tell us last year there was an average of 25 per month. This year that number up to 60.

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Two incidents in one day at the same airport. CNN has now learned of a second close call between a drone and a commercial airline in the skies above New York City. Around 2:30 Friday afternoon, JetBlue flight 1834 reports seeing an unmanned aircraft on approach to JFK. Less than three hours later a second encounter with a drone, this time by a separate airliner. Delta flight 407 prepares to land at JFK airport with 154 people onboard when the pilot spots a drone on the southwest side of the plane just about 100 feet below. The pilot immediately contacts air traffic control.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And 407, did you by any chance get the color or type?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I was not close enough to be able to tell.

VALENCIA: Then JFK tower warned other pilots of the possible danger flying around them. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: JetBlue 943, use caution on arrival. The one

ahead of you reported a drone at Floyd Bennett Field over there. So you might see that over there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, we're probably considerably higher than he was, but we're watching out for it.

[10:05:08] VALENCIA: Phil Derner of NYCAviation.com weighed in. Derner said without a doubt this was a close call. He explains a drone flying within 100 feet of a plane can easily get sucked into an engine or worse.

PHIL DERNER, NYCAVIATION.COM: These drones are made with aircraft aluminum, similar parts to the aircraft it is about to strike. Going into an engine can destroy an engine. Going into the cockpit window can injure or even kill a pilot.

VALENCIA: Scares like the one at JFK this happen more often than you think. The FAA reports at least two drone incidents each day. That's an average of 60 close calls each month. In the cases of Delta flight 407 and JetBlue flight 1834, both the plane landed safely. The FAA tells CNN it's investigating both incidents.

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VALENCIA: It's unclear if it was the same drone involved in both incidents, but we did reach out to a park official. Coincidentally, there is a recreational park, Randi, in that area of JFK where there is a group that's been given permits to fly these controlled unmanned aircrafts. We don't know if this group had anything to do with the incident, but it is worth pointing out they do have those permits. This time, though, investigators looking for whoever was behind this incident. Randi?

KAYE: Yes. And Nick, this is one of the busiest airports in the world. Certainly unnerving for a lot of passengers. What is the FAA saying about this?

VALENCIA: The busiest air space in the nation. The FAA is telling us that these incidents happen a lot more often than we think. We mentioned in that report, the average has more than doubled over the course of last year as these drones have become more popular in use. The FAA wanted to get to the bottom of this. The plane -- that Delta flight didn't make any maneuvers. It was the most critical part of the landing, but it didn't change its descent at all, so it seems as though those folks that were on the plane had no idea just how close this drone came from getting in contact with a Delta flight and the JetBlue flight, Randi.

KAYE: And that national park right there, right?

VALENCIA: Yes, there is a recreational facility in that area. It used to be some sort of base and they've turned it into a recreational park. And there is a group, as I mentioned, that flies these drones in the area. They have the permit to do so. We're looking into whether or not they had anything to do with this incident. But FAA investigators and local officials want to know who was behind it, certainly, Randi.

KAYE: I'm sure. Nick Valencia, appreciate it. Thank you.

VALENCIA: You bet.

KAYE: A piece of what is believed to be a Boeing 777 and suspected belonging to missing Malaysia flight 370 arrived a short time ago under guard at a French defense ministry lab. If the wreckage is a piece of the doomed flight, its discovery this week will be the first breakthrough in a mystery that has certainly baffled experts, grieving family members, the world for 16 long months.

Joining me now is P. H. Nargeolet. He is the director of underwater research at a program at Premier Exhibitions Titanic Exhibit.

[14:05:05] Paul, let me ask you. What can this one piece of wing, this flaperon, as it's called, tell us about what might have happened to MH370, if it is indeed part of that plane?

P. H. NARGEOLET, UNDERWATER RESEARCH DIRECTOR, PREMIER EXHIBITIONS, RMS TITANIC: Well, it's very hard to see anything. The experts will tell us soon what could happen. But I don't know if we'll have a lot of information from this piece. What we can have is the time of drifting. Maybe that would help.

KAYE: Paul, do me a favor. Just stand by because we have our reporter Saima Mohsin is right outside the lab in Toulouse where this piece of flaperon has arrived just a short time ago. Let me ask you, Saima, what is the latest from there? Have they gotten a look at it yet?

SAMIA MOHSIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, it arrived under armed guard, if you like. It had a police escort so important is this piece of flaperon, as you say, a piece of the plane that may be small but it could lead to some big answers.

Right now you ask, what's going on? I'll step aside and show you. This is a ministry of defense facility where a lot of air crash investigations have taken place. It's shut. So not a lot going on right now. We don't believe there is anyone going to come in here until first thing Monday morning. And that's when scientists will arrive. There are a lot of forensic experts that work here and they'll be taking a more detailed look.

We have been told that what they might be able to glean from this, and these are experts who have worked on things like this for decades, is, for example, where it came away from the main body of the plane. They will look at the edges of this flaperon and they will be able to establish whether this perhaps was torn away midair while the plane was still in flight or whether it came away on impact with water, and perhaps if it was involved in some kind of explosion. We know that terrorist activity and a hijacking is one of the many theories that could have taken place onboard flight MH370.

We have been told by many who have looked at the pictures that it doesn't look like it was involved in any kind of explosion. But, of course, nobody's got to get their hands on this piece, and that is why it's so crucial what's going to go on behind the doors at this lab behind me.

KAYE: And, Saima, from what we understand they'll officially start looking at it on Wednesday, which is very good news for many people, especially the families who are waiting for some answers. Saima Mohsin at the lab in Toulouse for us.

Paul, let me bring you back in here, because I wanted to ask you about not only this flaperon but the rest of the plane. I mean, if it's possible that this is MH370 and the rest of the plane is somewhere in the Indian Ocean and maybe even under water, how well can those other parts hold up?

NARGEOLET: Are you calling me?

KAYE: Yes. I was asking you --

NARGEOLET: Oh, I'm sorry.

KAYE: I was asking you if the rest of the plane is underwater, how well can it hold up?

NARGEOLET: Yes. It will be in better condition than even the piece they found now, because -- anything on the pieces. But it's a problem to know where is this wreck. That is the big question.

KAYE: So can these pieces, even if they're -- maybe they're some of the larger pieces, or maybe there are the black boxes. Would you imagine that they would drift to this same area off Madagascar?

NARGEOLET: I will say other pieces, yes, they could be on Madagascar. They could be even more on Reunion or a few other small islands. All of this area should be checked to see if there is anything, any other debris or anything. But, you know, there is probably thousands of debris and some of them could be there.

KAYE: Meanwhile, every expert, Paul, who has weighed in on this mystery is nearly 100 percent sure that this part is from MH370. Is it just out of extreme caution, do you think, that they're waiting to say this is it, or is there anything that you can think of that maybe doesn't fit right for them?

NARGEOLET: No. I really agree with that, because we know that this 777 is the only one that was never found, and it's the only one to disappear in the Indian Ocean. The chances it would be from another 777, it's almost zero. I will say for me, it's 99 percent sure. But, of course, the experts, they want to see the serial number to say it's, of course, MH370.

[14:10:08] KAYE: All right, Paul Henry Nargeolet, appreciate your expertise. Thank you.

NARGEOLET: You are very welcome. Thank you for having me.

KAYE: Coming next, Zimbabwe wants the American dentist extradited for killing one of Africa's most treasured lions. So will it happen?

Plus, brand-new video revealed in the shooting death of an unarmed black man. A campus cop says he was dragged. Does the new video support his story?

And members of Usama bin Laden's family killed in a plane crash and it's all caught on video. That story next.

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KAYE: A representative for the Minnesota dentist accused of illegally killing Cecil the lion in Zimbabwe has reached out to U.S. authorities. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service wants to talk to Dr. Walter Palmer, and Zimbabwe wants him extradited to face charges there. Palmer has been in hiding due to the international outrage over Cecil's death.

I want to talk more about this now with wildlife biologist and TV host Jeff Corwin. Jeff, so nice to see you. This is a tough story for a lot of people. I'm curious what your reaction is to the killing of Cecil the lion.

JEFF CORWIN, WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST: It's incredibly tough. It's really hard to wrap my mind around it. It's really gut-wrenching to think how this iconic, emblematic feline, this symbol of a national park, a celebrity in this part of the world, just was dispatched so grotesquely.

KAYE: And are you concerned at all about what this could mean for the rest of Cecil's pride? Because I have to share some news that we're just getting in, which is really a heartbreaker. I'm just being told that Cecil's brother -- I'm not sure if this was the brother Jericho, who was watching over the kids, it was Jericho. I'm just being told, was killed today, Jeff, at that national park. I'm not sure -- by a hunter, I'm being told, operating illegally. So here we have another one in his pride, in his family, being killed by in an illegal hunt.

[14:15:15] CORWIN: That is incredibly tragic to hear. It's not impossible for cubs to survive when the alpha male, the head lion that rules this community of lions, this family, it's not impossible for them to survive because oftentimes there's another patriarch involved. You'll off find two brothers running a family unit like this.

But things become desperate when the lionesses abide themselves with their babies. Of course, it is the lioness that actually do the lion's share of raising their cubs. But once the males are gone, either they've been dispatched or killed by a poacher or killed by a competing lion, the lion that moves in will often kill the cubs. He does that so he can get rid of the genetic competition and then actually breed the females so he can get his genes moving into the next generation of lions.

But it tells you really how desperate the situation is over there when it comes to the wildlife there. Poaching is the number one reason why so many iconic creatures are disappearing across the African landscape. KAYE: So what will happen -- I mean, you don't know for sure, but is

there any chance that any of the females will watch over these cubs, or just it absolutely won't work that way?

CORWIN: Oh, they will. Yes, they will. Again, it's the females that do most of the work. The lions have a great life. They get to sit around. The females go out, they do the hunting. They move in. They have an easy meal. And then they get to sire their future generations.

Of course, that's the easy part. The tough part is they're constantly defending landscape and real estate and their harem, and they put their life on the line to do that. If competing lions stay away from them and this is a healthy environment, which it is, it's a national park, there's a good chance that those cubs are old enough and those females are tenacious enough, they could survive.

KAYE: It's just such sad news about --

CORWIN: I know, I just found that out from you. That's really, really shocking. You know, it just really highlights the challenges with poaching. If you look at something like elephants, just the last few years, 100,000 elephants have been killed by poachers. That's one out of every 12 African elephants. It's because of poaching that the western black rhino became extinct two years ago, and today there's only four northern white rhinos left.

KAYE: And you look at them and they're such a beautiful animal. Have you ever been to that area, or that park?

CORWIN: I've not been to that park specifically. But I've been to all that region. I've spent a lot of time in that part of the world. And I've been there. I've had that powerful moment sitting there in an open vehicle, and you look to your left and there's a 600-pound lion just like Cecil. And that's the thing. Cecil lived in a national park, so he doesn't understand human beings as competitors or as the danger zone, so once he leaves that secured area, whether he's been lured out illegally through bait or whether he wanders on his own, it's no man's land. And it's open season.

KAYE: So what is the answer? I mean, I've heard just recently about some people who have been actually -- to help protect elephants, they've actually been going and painting their tusks pink so the poachers wouldn't go after them anymore. Is there something that can be done?

CORWIN: Well, it really comes down to enforcement. There are a lot of boots on the ground trying to protect these animals. Of course, there are a lot of rules and regulations. We have the convention for the international trade of endangered species, this umbrella organization. But rules only work if there's enforcement. And that's the challenge.

And it also has to do with if you take someone, a poacher, someone who is from this part of the world, and they're economically disenfranchised and are so desperate they will go to these measures to provide funds for their family. Someone will put their life on the line if they know they can get two or three years living wage by taking a rhino's horn.

So there's a number of things they're doing, just like you said, painting the tusks of elephants. They're actually coming to that desperate point where they're actually sawing the rhino's horns off to make them less economically valuable. But it's a huge challenge. It is a $20 billion a year industry. And there's a great saying out there -- when the buying stops, the killing will, too.

KAYE: What a shame, just a shame. Jeff Corwin, thank you so much. Really appreciate you coming on and talking about this.

And once again, it's very sad breaking news, just in to CNN. The brother of Cecil the lion named Jericho killed today by a hunter. Not just any hunter, but a hunter who was operating illegally in a national park, in Zimbabwe. Remember, Jericho was the brother who was protecting, what we've been told, protecting Cecil's cubs after Cecil had been killed as well. Much more on this as we get it.

[14:20:13] Coming up next, members of Usama bin Laden's family among those killed in a plane crash. We'll show you what happened.

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KAYE: British police say three of Usama bin Laden's family members were killed in a small plane crash in southern England. They crashed into a car auction site. One other person onboard the plane was also killed. Our Phil Black is in London. Phil, so tell us, are police naming the victims yet?

PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They're not. No, Randi. We first learned about this bin Laden family connection from the Saudi ambassador to the United Kingdom when he released a statement expressing his condolences to the family of the late Mohammed bin Laden. Mohammed bin Laden was Usama bin Laden's father, but he was also the father of many other people. The bin Laden family is very large. Mohammed bin Laden had many children by many wives. Usama was just the 17th out of more than 50 children.

So we know that it is a relative of Usama bin Laden, perhaps more than one. We don't know just how close or which ones specifically just yet.

Also interesting to note, experts on the bin Laden family say this isn't the first time that this family has suffered because of air accidents. That patriarchal figure Mohammed bin Laden, he died in a plane crash that was back in 1967 and so did his elder son Salem. He died in an air accident in 1988, Randi.

[14:00:13] KAYE: And since they're related to the late Al Qaeda leader, is there any foul play do you think suspected, or was this just a horrible accident?

BLACK: It is too soon to comment on any of this. All we know is that something went wrong on approach to the landing at this small airport in southern England. British authorities are now beginning the process of investigation, trying to find out precisely what went on, why. I think it's probably worth noting that by all reports, the wider bin Laden family itself had no direct connection to Usama bin Laden and his terrorist activities.

But as I say, the exact causes are now being investigated by British authorities. And the Saudi ambassador here says he's working to try and get the victims' bodies returned to Saudi Arabia as quickly as possible, Randi.

KAYE: We're continuing to look at this video, Phil, as you're telling us what happened there. And the pictures of it crashing into that car auction site are really something. Were there any injuries on the ground?

BLACK: Surprisingly, no, and fortunately, no. It was a Brazilian manufacturer, the jet, a small aircraft, relatively speaking. And it appears to have simply come in short of the runway at this small airport and, yes, crashed in fairly spectacular fashion into that -- what is effectively a large car park, really. There are a lot of vehicles there on site. There were people in the area, people who witnessed this crash, according to reports, but fortunately, none of them were hurt.

KAYE: All right, Phil Black, thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Next, Donald Trump returns from Scotland, Hillary Clinton releases a big statement about her health and income, and one presidential candidate makes solid contact taking batting practice in Iowa.

Plus, much more on our breaking news, the brother of Cecil the lion has been killed during an illegal hunt. This as the American dentist is in the spotlight for a possible extradition.

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[14:30:22] KAYE: Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining me. I'm Randi Kaye in for Fredricka Whitfield.

Polls are telling us that Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush would be locked in a super tight battle if the presidential election were held today. But race for campaign cash, well, that is a whole different story, Jeb Bush just blowing everyone else out of the water. You see it right there. Through the end of June, his super PAC and official campaign combined raised more than $114 million to Clinton's $67 million and change.

So let's talk more about this with CNN contributor Errol Louis. He's also political anchor at New York 1 News. And also with me, political strategist Brian Morganstern. Good to have you guys back. So it's interesting, Brian, to me that Bush is so far ahead of everyone when it comes to case. Does this show that the GOP establishment thinks that he's actually the better candidate here?

BRIAN MORGANSTERN, POLITICAL STRATEGIST: Well, it may show a number of different things. He obviously has an attractive record as governor. He also starts out with a big advantage in terms of a name brand and a network. And, of course, that helps especially in terms of fundraising, knowing not just who's going to be active but who's going to write checks. So he certainly had an advantage out of the gate.

That said, that doesn't take anything away from this accomplishment. That is a tremendous amount of money. And Democrats, by the way, should be very concerned about this. We looked at those numbers there, $60-some-odd million for Hillary Clinton, over $200 million for not Hillary Clinton. That should show you how energized the Republican Party is. That's why there's 17 candidates lined up to run against her, because they believe that the negative campaign in the general can boil down to if you don't trust her, don't vote for her. And so they see she is a vulnerable candidate. That's why the Republicans are raking in so much money.

Governor Bush, we'll see if he can maintain this momentum. That is a tremendous number, and it's awfully hard to compete at that level when there are so many other options going forward. We'll see who starts to nip on his heels.

KAYE: Yes, absolutely. Meanwhile, though, Hillary Clinton took a pretty good jab at Jeb Bush while addressing black voters. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't think you can credibly say that everyone has a right to rise and then say you're for phasing out Medicare or for repealing Obamacare. People can't rise if they can't afford health care.

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CLINTON: They can't rise if the minimum wage is too low to live on. They can't rise if their governor makes it harder for them to get a college education. And you cannot seriously talk about the right to rise and support laws that deny the right to vote.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAYE: So Errol, Bush actually polled higher than Clinton in a head- to-head match-up this week. That's the first time a Republican has led her in that poll. What do you think the reason is?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, Hillary Clinton has a number of negatives. Those same polls, if you look at them, and this has been true for quite a while, there are a number of people, including Democrats, who say that they don't trust her, who say that they don't like her on some level. And so she's doing better than everybody else, but her approval ratings have been under that fateful 50 percent mark in a number of polls, and that is a problem, especially if she's not facing any serious competition on the Democratic side.

So there's a problem with Hillary Clinton. I would be hesitant to identify where it comes from because if it's about fatigue and not wanting to see names from the past recycled and so forth, well, Jeb Bush is going to have that same problem, not only with this Republican base or his Republican constituents, but also with general election voters. If this comes down to Clinton versus Bush, we've already heard from a number of commentators and the number of polls that suggest a lot of people are going to stay home. They're going to say we've seen this movie before.

KAYE: All right, we'll leave it there. Errol Louis, Brian Morganstern, Thank you both.

LOUIS: Thank you.

MORGANSTERN: Thanks, Randi.

KAYE: Next, breaking news. CNN learning the brother of Cecil the lion has been killed during an illegal hunt. Much more on that when we come back.

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HOWARD TURMAN, LEGALLY BLIND: Two weekends ago, I sat down and read "The New York Times." I haven't done that in maybe 30 years. My wife came down. I had a cup of coffee. We were reading "The New York Times" and she was crying.

SAMUEL BURKE, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: Just being able to read again is emotional for Howard Turman. He started losing his vision as a child. His new glasses don't fix his eyes, but they do the next best thing.

TURMAN: I put on my glasses. It recognizes the finger, snaps the picture. Now it just reads.

BURKE: The glasses have a camera that recognizes text and can read the world to him. The technology is called Orcam.

AMNON SHASHUA, CO-FOUNDER, ORCAM: It's a clip-on camera, so a camera that you clip onto any eyeglasses. And you have here a completing device which you can put in your pocket. And the way it interacts, it's with a hand gesture. For example, it's written there "rentals and tours."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Rentals and tours.

BURKE: It's not perfect, though. It uses a pretty bulky cable and sometimes it needs a few tries to get things right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donuts. Hours of operation, 9:00 p.m. How was your service today?

BURKE: Even now, Turman says it's a game changer.

TURMAN: Picture a kid the first time he got his favorite toy, just the best thing that has happened to me in a long time.

BURKE: Samuel Burke, CNN Money, New York.

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KAYE: Some sad breaking news to bring you this hour. According to park officials, the brother of Cecil the lion named Jericho was killed earlier today by an illegal hunter in a national park in Zimbabwe.

[14:40:01] This as Zimbabwe is requesting the extradition of American dentist Walter Palmer. Palmer admits killing the beloved and now world famous lion known as Cecil on July 1st, but says he did not know it was a protected lion. As outrage grows over Cecil's killing and now his brother's killing --

CROWD: Extradite Palmer!

KAYE: Other less famous animals are being slaughtered by poachers in Africa. CNN senior investigative correspondent Drew Griffin reports the illegal animal trade generates billions of dollars every year.

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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Step into this grotesque, macabre warehouse on the outskirts of Denver and you'll soon grasp just how endangered this world's endangered species really are.

This is an animal that's about to go extinct really.

COLEEN SCHAEFER, SUPERINTENDENT, NATIONAL WILDLIFE REPOSITORY: It's the same plight for the rhino and the tiger and the elephant. They could all go extinct within our lifetime.

GRIFFIN: Colleen Shaffer runs the wildlife repository for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and this is just a fraction of what wildlife officials recover, just enough to show how repulsive the trade in endangered dead animals can be.

You get shipments in here every day?

SCHAEFER: Every single day. It depends the size of the shipment. Sometimes it will be one box full of 50 different items. Sometimes it's 50 smaller boxes maybe of jewelry of some type or another. So it's really variable what we get from day-to-day.

GRIFFIN: Shelf after shelf of endangered tiger heads, even a stuffed tiger fetus, tons of elephant ivory, bizarre and worthless medicines made from illegally poached animals. And of course, the extremely endangered black rhinos, whole horns, horns crushed into medicine, carved into statuettes.

This is a baby rhino foot. It's turned into a pencil holder.

There are just 2,500 of these black rhinos left in the wild, protected now by armed soldiers. This animal alive but its horn cut off by poachers. Most are not so lucky, their carcasses left to rot while their valuable horn is smuggled across the globe. The U.S. Department of Justice says illegal species trade is driven by mostly Asian buyers willing to pay up to $60,000 per kilo.

SCHAEFER: We also have basically the full snout, which you can feel still the skin.

GRIFFIN: According to Shaffer, wealthy hosts in Vietnam have even used ground up rhino horns as a party favor said to cure a hangover.

SCHAEFER: Not only their status symbol, but of their wealth and their ability to provide this to their guests.

GRIFFIN: And of course, it doesn't work.

SCHAEFER: It doesn't work.

GRIFFIN: To stop the killing, the U.S. government has targeted people who deal in the illegal animal trade. And according to the U.S. government, that includes an antique dealer in south Florida named Chris Hayes. For two and a half years Hayes and his international auction site sold black rhino horns, some for as much as $80,000. His cut, he admitted in court documents, 31 percent of every sale.

Hayes pleaded guilty and on May 20th was sentenced to three years in prison. In court he told the judge he made a terrible mistake. Leaving court, shielded by friends, he said almost nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you explain to us why you were selling these horns? You obviously knew for two and a half years, according to the prosecutor, that you were selling these horns --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn't matter.

GRIFFIN: According to the government, Chris Hayes and his Elite Art companies were involved in the selling of more than 19 pounds of rare endangered black rhinoceros horns worth about $400,000. And while the government says there was no human victim involved, each horn represented a dead endangered animal, smuggling, poaching, bribery, and even organized crime.

Government estimates have put the global trade in illegal animal products as high as $10 billion. Hayes was caught trying to arrange sales to Asian buyers in Canada, Texas, even Milan, Italy. The buyers and the sellers willing to force an animal into extinction for a worthless cure or a trinket.

Drew Griffin, CNN, West Palm Beach, Florida.

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KAYE: Many thanks to Drew Griffin there. And we'll have much more on our breaking news coming up in just a few minutes.

And also next, brand-new video revealed in the shooting death of an unarmed black man. A campus cop charged with murder says he was dragged by the victim's car. Does the new video support that claim? Mark O'Mara, the attorney representing the victim's family, joins me next.

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[14:48:38] KAYE: Well, a peaceful rally turned into a demonstration overnight in Cincinnati. The night started with speeches and candles lit in honor of Samuel DuBose, the driver shot and killed by ex- University of Cincinnati cop Ray Tensing. At least six people were arrested.

We've seen the video of the incident where DuBose was shot and killed, and it is at the center of the story in what eventually led to charges being filed against Tensing. But now coming to light, video of another contentious traffic stop involving that same officer Tensing. Last May he pulled over two black men who felt that they weren't being treated fairly. I want you to listen here to the exchange that he had with passenger Demetrius Pace.

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RAY TENSING: I need your name and date of birth.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Demetrius.

TENSING: I need your date of birth.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not giving you that.

TENSING: If you're refusing to identify yourself, we have a charge --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the charge? What's the charge? What's the charge? What's the charge? I just told you my name.

TENSING: Why do you keep interrupting me?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the charge?

TENSING: Step out of the car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the charge?

TENSING: Step out of the car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For what? What am I stepping out of the car for?

TENSING: Because I asked you to.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What am I stepping out for?

TENSING: Step out of the car. You wouldn't identify yourself. Step out of the car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just told you who I was.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're asking for your supervisor.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are we free to go? Can you write the ticket so we can go?

TENSING: You're not free to go right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are we doing then? What are we doing?

TENSING: We're doing a thing right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're being detained for what? We're being detained for this?

TENSING: You guys wanted a supervisor?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It don't matter.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[14:50:03] KAYE: All right, so let's talk more about this with the attorney for Samuel DuBose's family Mark O'Mara, who is also a CNN legal analyst. Mark, nice to see you. So your reaction first to this latest video allegedly occurring back in 2014 over a loose bumper.

MARK O'MARA, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: The concern with this video and certainly the concern with Sam's death in that video is that Tensing doesn't seem to have very much understanding of how to deescalate a situation, how to respect the people that he is interacting with. It seems as though he's bringing his ego into every situation. We only have two, but the two that we have seem to suggest that he's being a bit aggressive.

KAYE: Meanwhile, Tensing, as you know, is out on bond, and the police union is working to get him his job back. What do you make of that?

O'MARA: I'm hopeful that that is some technicality to maintain some contractual right that he has, because if he is actually daring to tell Cincinnati, never mind Sam's family, if he's daring to tell anyone that he actually expects to be a police officer ever again, then his hubris and ignorance of what he has done is almost beyond belief.

KAYE: Let me ask you about two officers who witnessed DuBose's stop. They are not being charged. A grand jury declined to indict them. But there is at least one officer who says he did see Tensing being dragged by the car. What do you make of him supporting Officer Tensing in that?

O'MARA: First of all, I do trust the grand jury and I know they had a lot more information, and they decided not to indict the other two for anything. I also know that when the statements they actually gave to law enforcement were opposite, certainly inconsistent with what they said at the scene. But it's very troubling what they said at the scene because, but for that video, the presentation would have been Tensing's story that he made up, that he was injured, that he was dragged and was in fear for his life. And then you have the two officers basically backing that story up.

So we have one crime, the killing. Now we have the officers with this blue line or whatever it is basically supporting the lies of another officer. And that's what's destroying, or led to the destruction of the trust between the community and law enforcement. We have to address that as much as we have to address unnecessary killings.

There are three body cams, three different views. I listened all the way through the third body cam, which was the last one to be released. And at some point on there, you hear one of the other officers on the scene, this is after the shooting, telling Tensing not to say anything. But they're all wearing their body cams. Why do you think that was?

O'MARA: Well, it is traditional that law enforcement have this special benefit given to them that they are not to give statements when they are involved in a shooting. The theory is that they are traumatized themselves. I think it's extra protection that they should not be given. But that is part of the brotherhood, and, to a certain extent, I understand it.

But, yes, what they're basically telling them is hush up, don't say a word, let's find out what's out there first, you know, a benefit they don't give to other witnesses and they try not to give to subjects, or suspects when they offer the Miranda and try and get a statement right away.

KAYE: All right, Mark O'Mara, good to talk to you and good have you on with this story, appreciate it.

O'MARA: Great, Randi, thank you.

KAYE: Coming next, breaking news, CNN learning the brother of Cecil the lion has also been killed during an illegal hunt. Much more on that when we come back.

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KAYE: Well, after 16 years, 20 Emmys, and two Peabody Awards, comedian Jon Stewart is ending his run as host of "The Daily Show" next week. Stewart is known for using both humor, and, let's not forget, his very sharp tongue. He's become somewhat of a media critic, holding politicians to the fire with his fact checker and other segments. Stewart has announced some of the guests for his upcoming final week, and no surprise, they are fellow comedians. Sian-Pierre Regis, founder and editor-in-chief of SwaggerNewYork.com and HLN contributor joining me once again to talk about this. So who is lucky enough to make his guest list?

SIAN-PIERRE REGIS, FOUNDER AND EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, SWAGGERNEWYORK.COM: This is going to be such a great week, Randi. Amy Schumer will be his guest on Monday, Denis Leary on Tuesday, and Louis C.K. on Wednesday, all friends of Jon Stewart. And it's interesting that he's going to comedian route, not bringing politicians as he did with President Obama a couple weeks back. He wants to keep this funny. He wants to keep this light. And he wants to be real, which is what he is very good at, as are those comedians.

KAYE: What about his last show, August 6th? Any surprises, you think?

REGIS: Well, they're keeping very mum on it. It is a longer show at 52 minutes, so we do expect that there will be lots of packages. Maybe a lot of surprise guests, but they are keeping very quiet. I'm very excited to see what they do on Thursday.

KAYE: He's certainly going to be missed on "The Daily Show." what is the word on what he's going to do next? Any word at all?

REGIS: You know, again, he's being very mum about that. A lot of people are saying internally that he probably will take time away from the camera. He's a director as well. He districted the critically acclaimed "Rosewater." He's also the executive producer of "The Larry Wilmore Show" and other shows. So people think that he'll take more of a role maybe in Hollywood or in the TV industry behind the scenes.

KAYE: And we know that South African comedian Trevor Noah is next in "The Daily Host" anchor chair. Certainly he has some big shoes to fill. Do you think he's going to make any changes?

REGIS: He will, actually. They held a conference last week to talk about what the changes would be. And, you know, he said first off, we'll stop talking about FOX News as much. We'll stop following this 24-hour news cycle as the last 16 years of "The Daily Show" did.

But more importantly, my perspective will be different. Trevor Noah is a biracial man from South Africa. And so his perspective on race relations in America or America's relations globally will be a lot different. It will come from a very personal place. But he is such a funny guy. I think viewers are really looking forward to what he brings. He's the face of a new generation, if you will.

KAYE: Oh, certainly. It's going to be fun to watch. And we will certainly miss Jon Stewart until he shows up somewhere else. Sian Pierre, nice to see you. Thank you.

[15:00:00] REGIS: Thank you, Randi.

KAYE: Thanks so much for watching today. I'm Randi Kaye. We have much more just ahead in the newsroom with Poppy Harlow, and it all starts right now.