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Ashley Madison Hackers Post Cheaters' Names; Iowa State Fair, the Whitest Place on Earth; Mike Huckabee: MLK Would Not Approve of Black Lives Matter Movement; Doctor: Tracy Morgan Miracle; Thai Police Release Sketch of Suspect. Aired 2:30-3p ET
Aired August 19, 2015 - 14:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
[14:30:00] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: I know that you created a couple of different profiles and you were explaining, you went out on some of these dates and saw how far you could actually take it. And I'm wondering because you hear about these websites and, in a statement, these hacktivists point out that 90 percent to 95 percent of the actual user is a scam and the site is a scam with thousands of fake female profiles, but who were the women you met?
CHARLES ORLANDO, RELATIONSHIP EXPERT & WENT UNDERCOVER ON ASHLEY MADISON: I met women, maybe some of the chat sessions I'm not aware of. Maybe this was a 65-year-old man, you know, on the east coast that I ended up talking to.
BALDWIN: How do you know?
ORLANDO: I'm not sure, but I am sure about the women I actually took out in person. And they had some interesting things to say. But when it comes to fake profiles, that goes for any dating website that's out there today. I did an expose a few weeks ago around online dating and dating profiles when it comes to everything from Tinder to eMatch to match to eHarmony, and they are all guilty of it. There's all -- reports show that there are fake profiles built up.
BALDWIN: Bottom line, you did this for work. What's the conversation you had with your wife when you wrapped this project?
ORLANDO: She told me not to screw it up. I wrote an in-depth piece going undercover on Ashley Madison to discover the real-world reasons women cheat. It's an option for a film, by the way, the entire experience.
(CROSSTALK)
ORLANDO: It's out there to see for everybody.
(LAUGHTER)
BALDWIN: You're the only man probably grateful for this.
(LAUGHTER)
ORLANDO: At this point, absolutely.
BALDWIN: Charles Orlando, thanks very much. I appreciate it. Best of luck to you
ORLANDO: Thank you
BALDWIN: Next, one of CNN's newest stars goes to the Iowa State Fair, which has been called the whitest place on earth.
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KAMAU BELL, CNN HOST, UNITED SHADES OF AMERICA: People are taking pictures of me. I don't think it's because I'm famous. I think it's because I'm a black dude.
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BALDWIN: Kamau Bell has interesting exchanges with some of these candidates, including Mike Huckabee. Do not miss that in Iowa.
Plus, Republican presidential candidate, Mike Huckabee, says Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King would be, quote, "appalled by the Black Lives Matter movement." We'll talk to the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta and get his reaction to that next.
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[14:36:37]BALDWIN: The Iowa State Fair, fried Oreos, butter, cows, photo-ops, what about all that? And comedian and new member of CNN family, Kamau Bell takes us to the fairgrounds. He's the host of the CNN upcoming series, "United Shades of America."
Here he is.
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BELL: Here we are at the Iowa State Fair.
They never have Kamau. They never have Kamau.
People are taking pictures of me. I don't think it's because I'm famous. I think it's because I'm a black dude.
There's like livestock and it's all about the food and the politics.
(voice-over): Now that I'm with CNN, I get my first assignment, interviewing one of the Republican presidential candidates. Nope, not Trump. I'm the new guy.
(on camera): Waiting for, I guess, Mike Huckabee to come out here.
(voice-over): But before I make my CNN debut, I make my C-Span debut.
(on camera): I'm a black dude from California. Sell me.
(LAUGHTER)
MIKE HUCKABEE, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: I believe in treating everybody the same regardless of who they are and where they come from and I'd love to have your vote.
KAMAU: You'd love to have my vote.
HUCKABEE: Of course.
KAMAU: I'm going to think about it.
(CROSSTALK)
HUCKABEE: Think about it a lot. And you just engage. I can see what happens. You're going to say, that's my guy.
KAMAU (voice-over): Hmm. Let me think. Nah.
MARTIN O'MALLEY, (D), FORMER MARYLAND GOVERNOR & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are Americans.
KAMAU: Next, the Democrats. Martin O'Malley. He's had his own problems connecting with black voters.
O'MALLEY: Black Lives Matter. White lives matter. All lives matter.
(BOOING)
KAMAU: So I'm going to try to help him out by teaching him a black man handshake.
(on camera): If you're going to hold it, we have to do this, this, and this.
Man, that was awkward.
(voice-over): Now the livestock, soon to be dead stuck.
(on camera): Apparently, we've got some Ku Klux lambs.
What is the competition I'm in the middle of?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're at the market lamb show and we're showing the lambs, and we're looking for muscle quality for lambs that go into the food market.
KAMAU: This is a food lamb?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
(LAUGHTER)
You're going to eat this?
KAMAU: I like them a little more well done than this. I'm like this is the adorable lamb show.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is your dinner.
KAMAU: This is dinner lamb? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
KAMAU: And now it's time for -- for something inappropriately deep fried.
Are they heart healthy? They're a little bit like kale.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The number-one weight loss food.
(LAUGHTER)
KAMAU: OK, OK.
(MUSIC)
KAMAU (voice-over): While politics divides us, food shoved on sticks brings us all together.
(on camera): Pork on a stick 2015.
What do you have to say about the Iowa State Fair?
UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: It's awesome.
KAMAU: Are you going to eat anything?
(LAUGHTER)
Yeah!
UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: That's what I'm going to eat.
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BALDWIN: Is that wrong?
Let's move on. Some are hailing this as the civil rights protest of the new millennium. The Black Lives Matter movement has taken a hold of the national discussion when it comes to race and criminal justice and reform and politics. But Republican presidential candidate, Mike Huckabee, says if civil rights icon, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr was alive today, he would not approve.
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[14:40:00] HUCKABEE: When I hear people, you know, scream Black Lives Matter, of course, they do, but all lives matter. It's not that any life matters more than another. That's the whole message I think that Dr. King tried to present. And I think he'd be appalled by the notion that we're elevating some lives above others.
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BALDWIN: Let's get some reaction to that from the Reverend Raphael Warnock, the senior pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church, where Dr. King preached in Atlanta on vacation, and good enough to join us for a couple of minutes here, but also the author of "The Divided Mind of the Black Church."
Reverend, wonderful to have you on. And it's impossible to crawl into the heart and mind of Dr. King, but when you hear Governor Huckabee say that, what do you think Dr. King would think today?
REV. RAPHAEL WARNOCK, SENIOR PASTOR, EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH & AUTHOR: Well, it's really not difficult. Thanks, first of all, Brooke, it's great to be here with you. Mike Huckabee should go again and read Dr. King's iconic I have a dream speech. In that very speech he says that we cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. He addressed police brutality all those many years ago. He address it had head on. He didn't pretend like everyone is the victim of police brutality. Black men are mostly impacted. Plaque lives matter they are in fact saying all lives matter and those who respond as Mr. Huckabee has with this kind of knee-jerk response are tantamount to fire fighters who show up at a three-alarm fire and decide to spray all the Houses on the street because, of course, all houses matter.
BALDWIN: Let me -- I want to come back. I'm glad you brought up Dr. King's writings and I want to come back to that. As part of this conversation, Huckabee said, you know, he himself faced death threats some 35 years ago as a pastor who he was trying to integrate at the time this all-white church and was arguing you don't resolve the issues by magnifying the problems but by magnifying the solutions and I'm just curious what you make, reverend, of these activists jumping in and interrupting some of these campaign events. Do you agree with that approach?
WARNOCK: Dr. King brought attention to the issue. The reason we're not where we were 50 years ago because Dr. King and those who were with him were incredibly strategic and gifted at dramatizing the problem that the nation would have ignored had they not drawn attention to the issue, and so, you know, civil disobedience is inconvenient. It's disruptive. But very often it's necessary to draw attention to a larger issue.
BALDWIN: OK.
WARNOCK: Dr. King spoke in very specific terms about what was going on. He didn't say that everybody should be able to sit at a lunch counter or everybody should be able to get -- to be able to sit wherever they like on a bus. The fact of the matter it was black people who were victimized by this so I'm proud of the young people who were in the streets today. It's a broad multi-racial coalition of young people a new kind of consciousness unfolding before our very eyes, and as one who is speaking the highest office in the land it seems to me that Mr. Huckabee rather than simply saying something very simple in order to get past the way in which Donald Trump is taking all the air out of a room he ought to think in a serious and substantive way about race in this country and the ways in which all of us need to be embraced by this great American country.
BALDWIN: It is such an important issue, reverend, and this has become one of the questions for this campaign and to go back to Dr. King's words, part of a letter from a Birmingham jail in 1963, he wrote, "I must confess that over the past few years, I've been gravely disappointed with the white moderate who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a more convenient seen. Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolutely misunderstanding of people of ill will."
Overall, Reverend, do you feel like these candidates, and I mean Republicans and Democrats, do they have a shallow understanding of this very important issue?
WARNOCK: Wealth, I think that if you're running for the highest office in the land you really ought to take the time to sit and listen. You know, politicians like preachers are used to talking, but I've become a better pastor. I'm better at what I do when I sit down and listen to the people that I'm actually trying to serve and I would encourage those running for office to do the same.
BALDWIN: Reverend, thank you so much for taking the time to be with me today. Truly appreciate it.
WARNOCK: Thank you.
[14:45:08] BALDWIN: Thank you.
Next, his doctor calls it a miracle. Comedian Tracy Morgan making a comeback this upcoming season on "Saturday Night Live" after his accident. We'll talk to someone who just interviewed Tracy Morgan's brain doctor, next.
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BALDWIN: When Tracy Morgan hosts "Saturday Night Live" this upcoming fall, it will be not only a major comedic comeback, but also a medical miracle, and that's coming directly from Tracy Morgan's doctor, who spoke with a reporter, as we heard from "The Daily Beast," who said, quote, "When I started treating Tracy in June 2014, if someone had told me that he was on "SNL" in October 2015, I would have had to look at that with great doubt. So many people don't recover as well as he does. Nothing short of a miracle in general."
Morgan was nearly killed in a highway crash on the New Jersey Turnpike. The NTSB says a truck driver had not slept for 28 hours when he slammed into Morgan's limo bus. The accident killed his friend comic, Jimmy Mack, and put Morgan into a coma for two weeks.
Kevin Fallon is "The Daily Beast" reporter who spoke to the doctor.
Kevin, thanks for coming through.
And we all read your piece this morning, my goodness. Not only the fact that he'll be hosting this upcoming October and how difficult the hosting duties, are but remind us how tenuous the first few weeks and months were for him.
[14:50:57] KEVIN FALLON, REPORTER, THE DAILY BEAST: So when Tracy arrived at the hospital to be treated by Dr. Greenwald, when I spoke to, he was in a coma. His brain injury was so bad he was in a coma, and it took a month for him to even be well enough to be released and to go back home. He had trouble with memory, fatigue, couldn't speak well, couldn't do anything on his own. The doctor was describing how literally every basic task you do every day required assistance. So the fact that even just a year from now he's doing this hugely, hugely, hugely taxing ordeal with "SNL" is astonishing, like the doctor said. It's a bit of a miracle.
BALDWIN: Just quickly, before we go through how difficult the hosting duties are, so rehab. What's he been doing these last however many months to get back to where he is.
FALLON: So this is a lot of physical therapy, on ton of the brain injury also fractured his leg very, very badly. Walks around with a cane still, and it was visiting this doctor once a month to get the quickness back and learn the cognitive skills that you need to live.
BALDWIN: So when you are a host at "SNL," from everything I've been told, you show up that Monday or Tuesday, that week, you're in it the entire week.
FALLON: It is a grind. And forget just the rehearsal of the week. That night of shooting is absolutely insane. You're carted around like, you know, you're a car and the crew was disassembling you. You don't do the show once, do it twice.
BALDWIN: Dress rehearsal.
Do the entire show before you do the live show. Very, very physically demanding. Watched the tip-top talent sweat bullets trying to get this done, so it will be a really huge talent for him.
BALDWIN: And how he addresses what happens, right, in his own sort of way and move forward.
Incredible, incredible for him to be able to do this.
Kevin Fallon, thanks very much, with "The Daily Beast."
Next, authorities searching for the two additional suspects after bomb rocked Bangkok in Thailand. And now a taxi cab driver is saying he gave the suspect a ride, and the clues he's providing for authorities. We'll live I Bangkok, next.
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[14:57:19] BALDWIN: New information and now a sketch of the suspect in the deadly bomb attack in Bangkok, Thailand. Let me show, you first, this is the sketch released just a couple of hours ago by Thai police, and we are now learning a motorcycle taxi driver is telling investigators he may have been the one to pick up the suspect who handed him a note written in English and spoke on the phone in a language the taxi driver didn't quite recognize. Thai police also now saying they are searching for possible accomplices.
CNN's Andrew Stevens is live in Bangkok with me on the phone.
Andrew, let's just begin what are you hearing from investigators and how -- do they have any solid leads?
ANDREW STEVENS, CNN ASIAN-PACIFIC EDITOR (voice-over): They don't have follow-up leads at this stage, Brooke. As you say, most of this comes from the taxi driver who picked up the suspect. He said that the suspect was on the phone during the trip. He wasn't -- he didn't know he was speaking English, didn't actually speak to the taxi driver. Just landed him a note with the name written in English in a well-known park and that's where the taxi driver dropped him off. As you say, they released a sketch of the man that they are looking for, the man they say they are very sure is the bomber, and there are also two other suspects. They were seen in the video at the -- at the shrine as well. They are just being referred to as a man in a red shirt and a man in a white shirt at this stage.
The images that we've seen are grainy, but police say this man did not work alone. The bomber did not work alone. There are at least two other suspects. And interestingly, Brooke, the prime minister tells reporters that the -- that the bombers should turn himself in for his own protection basically to suggest that he could say outside the law be killed for his actions and he should turn himself in to actually take the safety of the police so that's the development so far at this stage.
We don't know whether he's still in the country. Thailand police are still treating this as if he's still in the country -- Brooke?
BALDWIN: Just to quickly follow up on your thought, so they are looking for him and possibly other accomplices. An arrest warrant has been named for an unnamed male foreigner. Who would that be?
STEVENS: That is the same person --
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STEVENS: -- the unnamed male foreigner, so, yes.
BALDWIN: Got it.
Andrew Stevens, thank you so much, in Bangkok.
[14:59:51] All right. Let's continue on hour two. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin.
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