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Aired August 19, 2015 - 15:30   ET

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[15:30:00] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: Hold on. Let me go back to your point because I know you said I think you said you knew someone in the military. A 29-year-old woman who had both of her hips replaced I think to your point about, you know, some of this is incredibly arduous, you know, physically, right? But wouldn't women to a degree have to walk into these experiences or these challenges eyes wide open, a, and, b, I mean, listen, everyone's body type is different. I've even some pretty tough ladies.

GUNNERY SGT. JESSIE JANE DUFF, (RET.) U.S. MARINE CORPS: I agree with you 100 percent. The female that I know personally was 29 years old that needs to hips replaced. And essentially that is after carrying the packs for long haul.

When you're in a combat situation you are going to carry gear that's going to weigh 76-pounds plus along with a Kevlar helmet black jacket and a various weapon. With that said, you're doing this every single day. There is a great article everybody should read by Capt. Kathy Patrinio (ph) that was published that said get over it. We are not all equal. She served in Iraq and Afghanistan and she was a combat engineer. With the training that she had endured, the non-stop, out there in the hostile environment ready to meet the enemy, any given day, she ended up become infertile along with muscle atrophy and a wide range of ailments, (INAUDIBLE) I should say. She know that such. She deteriorated at a more rapid rate than men.

I agree with you, women can go into this eyes wide open. But the military has a responsibility to understand if they don't finish that four years or they done have a career, one, we're setting them up to be on the bottom three percent next to every single male they are performing, first of all. Second of all, are we prepared to pay for their medical discharge and continue to pay them for the rest of their life for the physical disability?

BALDWIN: No. And those are absolutely 100 percent, you know, valid concerns. But I guess want to be crystal clear as a woman of your stature, do you think this is even a good idea that women can now try to try to - you know, go through the six-month's intense basic underwater training?

DUFF: Underwater training. No, I don't think it's a good idea because I don't think we have a combat mission readiness need to put women in the front lines. I don't think we've demonstrated that. I think that this has been something that was influenced by a lot of politicians and people who wanted to get their name out there for women. But I question them. This isn't about equality. This is about a complete physical difference. This is about biology.

BALDWIN: When will you know it is about equality and not about politics?

DUFF: Well, I would say it would be about equality if women were equally capable of doing the job and we know right now, in our officer candidate school in the Marine Corps we've had discharge rates as high as 50 percent where the males are roughly around 16 percent. Medical discharges result in about 16 percent or 17 percent for women and only five percent for males. We have a dramatic much higher discharge rated based upon medical inability.

So I think we have to accept this reality. When you're talking about infantry and you are talking about Special Forces and Navy SEALs, for goodness sake, how are they going to perform under water training when we have 20 percent less lung capacity? I think we're setting a lot of women up for failure and we are going to be looking at a huge medical bill at the end of this.

BALDWIN: What a perspective. Gunnery sergeant Jessie Jane Duff, I appreciate it. I appreciate your voice.

DUFF: Thank you, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Thank you so much.

Well, they call themselves hacvtivists, the hackers who stole customer personal information from the dating Web site Ashley Madison where basically married men and women go to cheat. They have followed through with their threat to release that information to the public. A group named the impact team here basically what they can is they go in and money they published 33 million users' names on the dark web and now that information is becoming easily accessed on mainstream websites.

With me now are CNN money tech correspondent Laurie Segall.

So, you know, as it's been explained to me, you know, we are not just talking about on names, emails, you know, credit cards, it is also like what you like, personal preferences, et cetera.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY TECH CORRESPONDENT: Fantasies, you know, let me just give you the basics of what was leaked. We are talking 33 million accounts, 26 billion email addresses. So this is a lot. They do with the grain assault because people can put in a fake email if they want but they cannot put in fake payment information and this is where we're cross-referencing. You have home addresses, internal corporate data and of course, as you mentioned Brooke, embarrassing, embarrassing things like fantasies, and what specific people are interested. So this is also looking 35 gigabytes of data. That is a huge amount of data that's on the dark web. And now, unfortunately, for a lot of people who are very concerned making its way over to the open web where anybody can search for it. BALDWIN: OK. So let's talk about the type of people who signed upped

on the site and CNN cannot independently verify the email addresses on the list. But, you know, you've looked a little bit of everyone.

SEGALL: You know, there were about 15,000 government emails. Now we obviously can't independently confirm this. You know, I did speak to a security researcher who cross-referenced a lot of this data with credit card information that they found on the dark web. They said about 60 percent of them seemed pretty legitimate.

You're also, you know, they are dividing it folks potentially email addresses from Amazon, Boeing, so all sorts of folks. Now, these emails could be fake but this could get really, really nasty very quick. I actually got off the phone with someone from a company called Trustify (ph) and they are almost like a higher private detective, if you think something is sketchy.

Their phone is ringing off the hook because they have a service to figure out if you're on this list or not, and one of the representatives told me, Brooke, he said someone called and said I want to figure out if my husband is on here because I want to get more alimony. So it's getting nasty very quickly.

[15:35:45] BALDWIN: I know. Saying earlier maybe divorce attorneys after this whole thing, salivating.

Laurie Segall, thank you so much.

SEGALL: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Next, CNN goes one-on-one with the number one ranked tennis player in the world. I'm talking about Serena Williams who is making headlines both on and off the court. We'll talk to Rachel Nichols with that outstanding interview.

Also, he refused to give up key information that ISIS wanted. The hidden locations to priceless antiquities and a renowned scholar was killed after protecting the treasures. We'll talk to someone who knew him coming up.

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[15:40:39] BALDWIN: Serena Williams, she is on top of the world right now. She's the number one ranked female tennis player in the world. And if she wins this year's U.S. open, she will join a very small elite group of people to achieve the holy grail of her sport, the grand slam.

CNN's sports anchor Rachel Nichols sat down with Serena for this in- depth interview.

And I'm so glad we're getting a chance to chat about this. Let me just first throw to a little bit of your interview, this is when she is, you know, you're asking her about, you know, this power she has really in lending her voice to social issues. Here she was.

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RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: You recently tweeted about the college football player, the unarmed black player, Christian Taylor, who was gunned down by a police officer. You said, quote, "really? Are we all sleeping and this is one gigantic bad nightmare? How many hashtags to all these incidents that keep happening?" What does it feel like you to keep reading these stories?

SERENA WILLIAMS, PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYER: Well, I think not just for me but I think a lot of people in America and outside of America are kind of frustrated and concerned. But I really think it just boils down to people as a nation pulling together and it's not just me. It's not just me speaking out. There's a lot of people that are speaking out, and it's a whole nation that's coming together and we're just asking the same question why?

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BALDWIN: I really commend her for speaking out about it.

NICHOLS: Yes, absolutely. Look, I've been covering Serena since she was 16 years old. And one thing I will say is she's never been afraid to speak her mind, even when, frankly, it has been really difficult and she may have had an easier go it of in her tennis career just keeping her mouth shut and going along with the flow. She says what she thinks and as she's gotten older and got more advanced in her sport. She and others followed behind her. That's admirable.

BALDWIN: Advanced in her sport and I love that 33 is old. I say this in air quotes. I have a few years on her. She's 33 and she is taking college classes.

NICHOLS: Yes. Well, it is amazing. First of all, we talked about her age and she said, yes, you know, you go to the doctor and they say, you're 33, you're so young and then, of course, you go into tennis and they say --

BALDWIN: You're an old lady.

NICHOLS: She said I like to think of myself as vintage.

BALDWIN: Mature.

NICHOLS: We're all vintage.

BALDWIN: We'll steal that.

NICHOLS: Exactly. But yes, she started seeing college classes.

BALDWIN: What is she doing?

NICHOLS: She is taking pre-med classes.

BALDWIN: What?

NICHOLS: Her sister Venus, unfortunately, has been diagnosed with something called Sjogren's syndrome. It means your immune system actually starts to attack itself and is very impressive that Venus is out there still trying to play at age 35 with this condition. But Serena going through all of this, she is the baby sister. She never has had to take care of Venus before and now she is aiding her sister and she is taking college classes anyway. She decided she wanted to switch her major from business to pre-med. She said look, I just want to know more about what goes on in the human body, how to think about myself and take care of myself. And I learned by watching my sister being an educated person when you go through a system like this is valuable.

She is not going to go to medical school. But it is fascinating to that, and, by the way while also trying to become the most decorated female grand slam champion in history, she is also taking pre-med classes. What did you do this morning, Brooke?

BALDWIN: Wished I was still at the beach.

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BALDWIN: No, no. I'm glad I'm here. But that's phenomenal.

If you want to hear more from this great interview just go to CNN.com for that.

Rachel Nichols, thank you very, very much.

NICHOLS: Thanks.

BALDWIN: Next, a renowned scholar killed by ISIS after refusing to reveal the hidden location of his ancient treasures. We'll speak live with someone who knew him, and why that is so significant next.

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[15:48:35] BALDWIN: One of Syria's most prominent antiquities scholar who in his early 80s, he has been killed by ISIS. The extremists beheaded 82-year-old Khaled Al-Asaad because he would not reveal the location of ancient archeological treasures. The artifacts and ruined and question reside in the ancient city of Palmyra. Syrian officials say al-Asaad knew everything about Palmyra and spent his entire life there.

So I want to bring in someone who knew al-Asaad, Syria's former deputy minister in-charge of cultural heritage, Abdalrazzaq Moaz.

Abdalrazzaq, thank you so much for joining me. And I'm so sorry for the loss of a man you knew for 25 years.

ABDALRAZZAQ MOAZ SYRIA'S FORMER DEPUTY MINISTER IN-CHARGE OF CULTURAL HERITAGE: Thank you.

BALDWIN: I should also point out that you fled Syria, and you're now the co-director of cultural heritage initiatives as the American schools of Oriental research. So as far as this -- it sounds like he was just phenomenal in his knowledge of this history. The fact that ISIS militants tried to get this information, location for these treasures. He refused to betray his commitment to Palmyra and he sacrificed his life. Does that sound like the man that you knew?

MOAZ: Yes. Yes, in fact he refused to leave Palmyra and he wanted to stay there with his son and other colleagues at the department of antiquities in Palmyra. He wanted to say with his site, monument, and artifacts and museum and people as well.

[15:50:13] BALDWIN: Can you help us understand why these treasures are so, so significant, so beautiful to the history there?

MOAZ: Palmyra is already listed by UNESCO as a world heritage site. It's belonged to the all of humanity. It is international, it has an international value as a historical site as well.

BALDWIN: And so, when you hear --

MOAZ: It's unique. Yes.

BALDWIN: When you hear that these terrorists feel that these, you know, antiquities of this is idolatry, right? That's what they are saying and they want to destroy them. When you hear that, knowing what you know, having, you know, lived there for as long as you have, how is that make you feel? You are sad or angry?

MOAZ: It's really the extreme of the extreme. And this is really unbelievable and they are really top extremists.

BALDWIN: Just final question, how worried are you that these antiquities will not survive what's happening there?

MOAZ: I worry about the people who are there, our colleagues as friend as well as the cultural heritage in Palmyra. And I call on the community to assume its responsibility vis-a-vis this international site and the cultural heritage and the human beings in Syria.

BALDWIN: Abdalrazzaq Moaz, thank you so much for joining me. Again, I'm so sorry the loss of someone you knew for 25 years. Thank you for joining me.

MOAZ: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Coming up here on CNN, will the race for the White House test the long standing friendship between Ivanka Trump and Chelsea Clinton, two friends will now find themselves on competing side of daughters of (INAUDIBLE).

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[15:56:31] BALDWIN: Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton waging a war of words against one another in their bid to win the White House, but despite this their daughters Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump remain friends, at least thus far.

CNN's Sunlen Serfaty take a look at the friendship that binds these two famous daughters. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is pretty pathetic that Hillary Clinton just blamed me for the horrendous attack that took place in South Carolina.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: As their parents sling insults at each other on the campaign trail --

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So I have just one word for Mr. Trump -- Basta! Enough!

SERFATY: Ivanka Trump and Chelsea Clinton's long standing friendship is about to be put to the test. It is a test their parents have failed. After once being close friends themselves, Hillary Clinton attending Donald Trump's wedding, Trump making donations in the past to the Clintons and their foundation, they are now rivals, not holding anything back.

CLINTON: I think the guy went way overboard, offensive, outrageous, pick your adjective.

TRUMP: She's the worst secretary of state in the history of the country.

SERFATY: But Ivanka and Chelsea have a private relationship, one that has grown more intimate over the years. The two women both in their 30s, new moms and living in Manhattan, finding bonds in their similarities, their unconventional upbringing in the spotlight.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you talk to kids about why math and reading are so --

SERFATY: Their career paths from high profile TV gig --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You both are amazing.

SERFATY: To big roles now in their respective family businesses and their family ties, both marrying men of you Jewish faith, Ivanka converting with marriage.

On social media, they both seem to be president of the others' fan clubs, (INAUDIBLE) in their phrase on Facebook and tweeting out complement. Ivanka quoting Chelsea in a tweet with the #wisewords.

Chelsea telling "Vogue" magazine, there is nothing skinned deep about Ivanka saying she is always aware of everyone around her. Quote "it's an awareness that in some ways reminds me of my dad in his ability to increase the joy of the room.'

But their biggest connection could also become their friendship's kryptonite. Both are fiercely loyal to their family and big boosters of each of their parents' presidential bid.

IVANKA TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP'S DAUGHTER: I can tell you there's no better person than my father to have in your corner when you're facing tough opponents or making hard decisions. He is battle tested.

SERFATY: A battle that could now become a rivalry for this Trump and Clinton too.

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BALDWIN: Sunlen, thank you so much.

And do not forget Chris Cuomo with the full interview with Donald Trump, part of the CNN special report airing tonight, 9:00 eastern right here on CNN.

I'm Brooke Baldwin here in New York. Thank you so much for joining me. "The LEAD" with John Berman is starting now.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump -- shy, humble, apologetic in a brand-new CNN interview -- I'm kidding. He was none of that.

I'm John Berman, this is "the LEAD."

The politics lead, Donald Trump one on one in his most extensive interview of the 2016 race so far, as new CNN polling says that Trump signature scowl is getting clearer in Hillary Clinton's rear-view mirror.

The national lead, the man who made millions selling subways sandwiches, now admitting to disgusting acts, secretly taking children and traveling to have sex with them. The shocking details with Jared (INAUDIBLE).

Also a national news, dangerous duo for scary moments on the U.S. flight as the passenger plane slams the runway and scraps light during in the board of landing, only to try it all over again.

Good afternoon.