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Alison Parker's Parents Speak Out; Memorial Service for Slain Reporters; Dozens Gathering to Remember Texas Deputy Killed on Friday; Baseball Fan Falls to Death From Stands; Bernie Sanders Inching Up on Hillary Clinton in New Iowa Poll; Rising Broadway Star Kyle Jean- Baptiste Falls to Death; Europe Calling for Changes in Railway Security; Couple Wins $4 Million Lottery Prize; Brady and Goodell Due in Court Tomorrow. Aired 4-5p ET

Aired August 30, 2015 - 16:00   ET

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FREDERICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Happening right now, slain journalist Alison Parker's mother and father share memories of their daughter and talk about their new mission, changing gun control laws in this country.

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ANDY PARKER, FATHER OF SLAIN REPORTER: It's the only thing that's giving me strength right now, to take on this cause. I know that somewhere she'd be looking down and saying, you go, dad. You're - this is - this is what she would want me to do.

BARBARA PARKER, MOTHER OF SLAIN REPORTER: I can see...

ANDY PARKER: This is her...

BARBARA PARKER: It is her fight. I can see Alison sitting there going, because that's what she'd do.

WHITFIELD (voice-over): Plus, a terrifying fall. A fan plunges to his death from an upper deck during a Yankees/Braves game.

And Bernie Sanders closing the gap op Hillary Clinton. Newsroom starts now.

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WHITFIELD (on camera): Hello again everyone. And thank you so much for joining me. A mission expressed by the parents of slain journalist Alison Parker. They have vowed to make their daughter's legacy about meaningful gun control. It's an exclusive interview. The first time we've heard from Barbara Parker. Today, my colleague Poppy Harlow, we talked to the Parker's and gives us a preview of tonight's special, Poppy.

POPPY HARLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Fred. They told me so much. Some of the things that stood out to me about their remarkable 24- year-old daughter. They said she came into the world with light. And her father would call her scooter, texting her after each of her live shots to say how well she did. She was a daughter, she was a friend, she was deeply in love with her boyfriend. She was a remarkable journalist, so dedicated to the cause. So we spoke a lot about her mission and the stories that she was so dedicated to sharing with the world.

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ANDY PARKER: You know, she excelled at everything. You know, she wanted to be the best. I mean, she was just extremely competitive. And whatever she did, and maybe she - you know, maybe she got that from dad because if I pick up a sport or if I pick up an activity and as you will - we'll talk about later, now with this mission, you know, I want to be the best. And I've always been that way. It just sort of was instilled in her, you go at it and thankfully she was just gifted beyond belief.

BARBARA PARKER: She was.

ANDY PARKER: She tutored calculus at James Madison University. How many journalism majors can tutor call calculus. She just was not satisfied with just doing something. She wanted to be the best.

HARLOW: She wanted to be the best. When she set out to do something, she meant that.

BARBARA PARKER: She - she wanted to be the best and never win a race or never lose a race, never mess something up. She wanted everything she did to be perfect and she was driven to do that.

ANDY PARKER: And that's what made her such a great journalist. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Poppy.

HARLOW: I know that she wanted to be a doctor when she was younger. I wanted to be a lawyer when I was younger. We both found our calling, I think, in journalism. She and Adam together were known as the A-team, like this best, right?

ANDY PARKER: Yes. They were. I mean, they were. And, you know, before she - before she rejoined - she was interning at DBJ the semester before she graduated. The station that she - that she ultimately went to work for at her first job in - actually the eastern Carolina market, the guy that hired her, you know, he talked to her on Friday. He - he did her - talked to her references on Monday and he made her an offer on Tuesday. She went to work immediately...

BARBARA PARKER: Without a face-to-face interview.

HARLOW: Wow.

ANDY PARKER: She was driven to be - she was a journalist first. She was a news editor at James Madison, the paper there.

HARLOW: Right. ANDY PARKER: She - you know, the - the - the station there, their

motto was, getting the facts right. She was the epitome of that. That's what she did. Her work ethic was so great that that's what she did.

[16:05:00] HARLOW: We see all these images of her on TV. She could have a lot of fun on morning television, dressing up in costumes. But her heart lay with hard news and she was working on a child abuse special called "Childhood Lost." I wonder what she wanted to give the world, Barbara, with her stories.

BARBARA PARKER: That story was especially important to her. She spent many, many hours with the little girl who was the feature that we call Hope. And her adoptive mother. And talking about the things that she'd gone through. And Alison knew that she was one of the lucky ones. She had a loving family. She grew up with a lovely home. And she had what so many people do not have. And she realized that. And this little girl to be so eloquent and so beautiful in telling Alison her story that it - it broke Alison's heart. But she felt like that story was so important to be told.

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HARLOW: And Fredericka, that's exactly it. Telling the stories that are so important to be told. That is what she did every day. That's what she wanted to do for the rest of her life when it was cut so tragically short at 24 years old. That is a tremendous unfathomable loss for her family, for that community, for all of us.

But it has also lit a fire in the belly of her parents. They are on a mission. They are fighting for new gun legislation. I want to read you what her mother told me, she said, you cannot change the world in a day, but we cannot be intimidated, we cannot be pushed aside. We cannot be told that this fight has been fought before and we are just one for grieving family trying to do something.

WHITFIELD: I find it so extraordinary the resilience of these parents, especially so close to the deaths of their daughter just days ago. And the same resilience we saw when I interviewed the mother of the 6-year-old Dillon among those killed at Sandy Hook. It is extraordinary these parents are putting these emotions in a place where they're also allowing themselves to do good for a lot of people potentially.

HARLOW: They talked to me about that, that struggle between coping and grieving in their way, but also feeling like they have to carry forward what Alison would want as a journalist and getting the word out there and getting the message out there. They also spoke to me about Adam Ward's family. They said they are grieving in their own way, but we are speaking for both families. So we're going to play the entire interview with them a little bit later this evening.

WHITFIELD: We look forward to that. Poppy Harlow, thank you so much. Of course you can watch the entire interview with parents of Alison Parker at 5:30 eastern time today for a special on that tragedy. All right. In the past hour, WDBJ Television in Roanoke, Virginia,

has hosted an interfaith memorial for Adam Ward and Alison Parker. The event was open to the entire community. Many of those in attendance were ordinary people who came to know Alison and Adam by watching their work each day on WDBJ they were grieving along with the family and the friends right there.

CNN's Polo Sandoval is following the service and he is joining us now in Washington. So Polo, what more really stands out to you about what you heard and watched during that memorial service?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was a very powerful and relatively short ceremony. Really, there was prayer and musical tribute. So it was really a celebration of Alison and Adam's lives. Ceremony opening with a series of photographs, the A-team, that's how they were known in their local television market. It showed how they were passionate about telling the stories of their community.

You'd see the steady hand of Adam behind the camera and the bright face of Alison in front of it. And now it's the community's turn to tell their stories. That's what we saw at this ceremony, still continues right now. Also the general manager of WDBJ 7 Jeff Marks who took a moment at the podium to not just remember his fallen workers, but also to even highlight the need to identify and treat mental illness.

[16:10:00] Marks referring to really one of the key issues here in the state of mind likely of the killer. And then lastly, I should mention also there was plenty of prayer too, Fred. One of the prayers that really stands out was one that addressed gun violence. It said, as difficult as it might be, God, grant us the faith to pray for the shooter, the killer, our Enemy. May we not repay evil with evil. That line alone really does stand for and symbolizes the grace, the strength, and really the virtue that we saw firsthand while reporting on the ground the last couple days.

WHITFIELD: All right, Polo Sandoval, thank you so much from Washington.

And of course if you'd like to help honor the memories of Alison Parker and Adam Ward, head to cnn.com/impact. There are several ways to help. They're all listed there. That's cnn.com/impact.

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WHITFIELD: All right. In Texas, investigators are trying to determine why a man shot ask killed a sheriff's deputy execution style. Harris County police have arrested a suspect. 30-year-old Shannon J. Miles. He is charged with capital murder. This happened at a Houston area gas station Friday night.

[16:15:00] Miles approached the deputy from behind, said nothing, and fired multiple shots. Deputy Darren Goforth was a ten-year veteran. We're at the Houston gas station where all of this happened. There was a vigil last night. But people continue to stream in. What are they saying? ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, the emotional

outpouring continues here. As you look behind me, this is a memorial set up at the pump where deputy was at - where the deputy was at Friday night. That's the very spot where he was gunned down.

People have come out leaving flowers, teddy bears, messages of support. They have collected about $25,000 for the wife and two children of deputy Darren Goforth. That is in addition to a website collection on Go Fund Me where I believe last we heard was about $30,000 worth of donations have been collected as well. We talked to several people who say they have been really struck and shaken very hard by the developments here and the way this attack on this deputy was carried out.

Darren Goforth was ending his shift. He had come here as we're told many deputies come through this area to fill up at this particular gas station. Investigators say Darren Goforth was shot in the back multiple times and simply guilty of wearing a police uniform. The investigation continues. We still don't know much about what motivated this attack. But the suspect is in custody expected to make a court appearance tomorrow morning.

WHITFIELD: OK. Thank you so much. Ed Lavandera, appreciate that.

Later on this hour, we are going to be hearing from retiring NYPD Detective Harry Houck about the possibility of this deputy being targeted because he was wearing a uniform.

All right. Straight ahead crews in Washington state are still fighting the largest wildfire in state history. Next, why officials are saying this fire could burn until it snows.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Welcome back. Checking the top stories, a hiker missing nine days is now recovering at a hospital. Fellow campers reported her missing after she didn't return from a day hike. California highway patrol says she blew a whistle when she heard the voices of rescuers. They found her near a reservoir. A nearby wildfire made the rescue even more difficult. They say she was talking, and very grateful when she was found.

Britain, Germany and France are calling for urgent talks on the immigration crisis in Europe. Officials say immediate action needs to be taken to face the challenge of thousands of migrants coming into Europe. They also say steps must be taken to register them and identify those in clear native international protection as soon as possible and definitely by the end of the year.

And French experts say they haven't figured out if part of an airplane wing found on an island in the Indian ocean belongs to MH-370. Investigators now say that they believe the part comes from a Boeing 777, but they still need time to identify a number inside that wing part. They also say the staff of a subcontracting firm that could do that identification is on vacation. And a group of fires, wildfires in Washington state is now bigger than

any other fire in that state's history. The fires are so out of control that officials are now warning they could burn until the first snowfall. Let's bring in CNN meteorologist Tom Sater with more on this.

TOM SATER, AMS METEOROLOGIST: We've seen a lot of fires, there's no doubt. But they're much larger than they typically are. About a month ago, I heard there were 6,000 firefighters. It's an incredible number. Canada, Australia, New Zealand. We're actually below average whether it comes to fires. Ten-year average, 52,000. But they've been so much bigger. Look at the acres burned now. 7.8 million. 5 million of that is in the State of Alaska.

So we keep talking about the west, but overall - yes, here's what we're looking at. 68 active large fires. That's the main word is large. We have several small ones in every state. 7.8 million. The air quality is so bad that even at the University of Montana, they were playing a football game, they almost canceled it because it was so bad.

WHITFIELD: (inaudible).

SATER: Poor, and I think the spoke is going to start to slight. The smoke from Calgary made it all the way to the east coast. Been a lot of smoke across the whole U.S. Now, there is rainfall. Unfortunately, it came with a fatality, but it's just not making it over the cascades. That's the problem.

Even though the wind damage and the heavy months of rain, we're now looking at a threat who does get rain for the mudslides. This is what's interesting here. As the front moves across causing all that rain, it dries up. These areas of concern are all where they could have more fires in the next 24 hours. The national guard is outfitting.

WHITFIELD: And remember, they were also training citizens, residents.

SATER: They'll take anybody.

WHITFIELD: To get engaged in fighting the fire, very safely of course.

SATER: They're heroes, no doubt about it. They're hoping for more rainfall. But can you imagine you're in this 100-degree heat, retardant clothing head to toe and working 16 to 18 hours.

First time in recorded history we have three typhoons in the central and eastern Pacific. It's just amazing. Real quick, Hawaii is looking at a powerful category 4 losing some strength. First time for everything. Not a whole lot going on. The surf is going to kick up. I'm sure a lot of folks are flying there to surf.

[16:25:00] WHITFIELD: All right. Tom Sater, thank you so much. Real hodgepodge of extremes. All right. We'll have much more newsroom right after this. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: All right. Hello again, and thanks so much for joining. I'm Fredericka Whitfield and thanks so much for joining me. A horrible incident at last night's Atlanta Braves baseball game. A fan died after falling from the upper deck of Turner field. 60-year-old Gregory Murray tumbled out of the stands during the 7th inning. He landed on a concrete walkway in front of a row of fans. Atlanta police say they don't suspect foul play. We have the story from New York for us now. Boris.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Investigators are conducting an autopsy this afternoon to try to get a toxicology report and figure out whether or not alcohol may have played a role in this tragic incident. Witnesses say that it was the 7th inning of the braifs/Yankees game. And this man apparently walked over to a railer to boo Alex Rodriguez.

At some point, the man went over the railing head first falling 50 to 80 feet and landing on his head on a concrete walkway. Fans were escorted out of the way as paramedics rushed over to try to help him. He was rushed to the hospital, but obviously he didn't make it. This is the second time that a fan has fallen from the upper deck at Turner field and died.

In 2013, a man reportedly committed suicide by jumping off the upper deck. In this incident, there's no indication that points to the fact that that's what may have happened. We're still waiting to get more information. We'll bring it to you obviously as we learn more.

WHITFIELD: All right. Boris Sanchez, thank you so much.

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WHITFIELD: Lot of people in those stands, among them one of CNN's employees, the Southeast Bureau Chief Marilynn Ryan. She was at that game last night. She's joining me right now on the phone. So Marilynn, you were sitting -- I understand fairly close to where this man fell. What did you see?

MARILYNN RYAN, CNN SOUTHWEST BUREAU CHIEF: So just as Boris said, Fred, I was behind home plate and when A-Rod was announced, there fans who had who been going back and forth -- there are a lot of Yankee fans at the game with the Braves fans and everybody was kind of yelling back and forth at each other. So of course A-Rod, they announce his name and everybody stood up. And I couldn't really see. So I looked to my left almost as if, you know -- when everybody stood up and started yelling and cheering or yelling, I looked over and I see this man -- I didn't even believe it was a person as he was tumbling. I was like -- I am watching this and it was surreal that he was tumbling head over feet and crashed into the ground and everybody in the section that was next to where we were just stood up in horror. And everybody just kept standing there like -- and the rest of the game kept going on and everybody kept waiting for someone to show up to help him. But if you saw the fall, you would know that that person probably would never have any chance to make it because it was just too high, and his body came just down so fast. So the paramedics did what they could and then they took him away on the orange boards. And the whole section that was there that I believe are the coaches' and player's families, they were evacuated from that section and police started asking questions, so that's what I saw.

WHITFIELD: So initial reports that were the game kept going, everyone really kept going about their business because they didn't know exactly at the immediate what happened. Is that what happened or was there a moment where the game had to stop or there was an announcement made, anything like that, once there was that realization?

RYAN: No, you're right. Everybody behind home plate was like in shock. And everyone kept saying, why is the game not stopping. But if you could see how fast that incident happened, no one really knew in the stadium until security was alerted. And then they probably alerted others around the stadium. So the game kept going on. But everybody in our section behind home plate kept standing and looking over as they were working on the man. And then when they took his body up the stairs -- and then the whole time the game kept going. So it was just really horrific and it left everybody -- you know a lot of people ended up leaving in that section.

WHITFIELD: Right. And when you looked up to the section where that man -- Mr. Murray, now we know his name, fell, could you see what the reaction was from the people that were in that upper deck area close to where he was standing?

RYAN: Yes, I could. I actually kept looking up there, did he fall from the upper deck or the middle deck. There's a smaller middle deck. But he fell from the upper deck. And I could see people with their hands on their faces. And then the people below where I was told we were at the stadium, there was a lot of blood, as you can imagine. They were all horrified and they were all just shaking their heads. And people were just -- you know you could see that everybody around there was impacted by the horrific aspect of the -- of the body hitting the concrete and luckily nobody below was struck either because that's happened before.

WHITFIELD: Right, tragic, all right, Marilynn Ryan, thank you so much for calling in about what you experienced and witnessed last night at Turner Field.

All right, still ahead, a man is in custody as police look for a motive now in that execution style killing of a Texas deputy. We'll discuss the theory the deputy was targeted simply because he was in uniform.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Dozens of people are gathering at the site of Friday's execution style killing of a Texas deputy. Remembering a man his friends and family say was ethical, loyal, and gentle.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN MCCULLAN, VISITED DEPUTY'S MEMORIAL SITE: I think when something like this happens to an officer, the word hero always comes to find. I would want the family to know and they know that he was already a hero even before all of this. He was a person that felt like he could make a difference. And every day, that's what he tried to do. And I truly believe that. I know that.

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WHITFIELD: A suspect in the shooting is in custody, he is 30-year-old Shannon J. Miles. He is now facing capital murder charges. Joining me right now to talk more about the case is CNN Law Enforcement Analyst Harry Houck. He is a former NYPD Detective. So Harry, good to see you, we don't yet know the motive in this case, but yesterday the Harris County Sheriff called this a, "Cold-blooded assassination," and the deputy was targeted in his view because he wore a uniform. Listen.

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SHERIFF RON HICKMAN, HARRIS COUNTY TEXAS: Our system of justice absolutely requires law enforcement to be present to protect our community. So at any point where the rhetoric ramps up to the point where calculated, cold-blooded assassination of police officers happen, this rhetoric has gotten out of control. We've heard black lives matter, all lives matter. Well, cops' lives matter too. So why don't we just drop the qualifier and just say lives matter and take that to the bank.

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WHITFIELD: So Harry, what's your reaction to what the sheriff had to say that there is a dangerous national rhetoric that may in part be to blame?

HARRY HOUCK, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: There's no doubt it's an assassination here. And of course there's anti-police rhetoric out there you know based on lies and assumptions, helping to promote the assassination of police officers out there. You've got this group black lives matter that's out there. And I believe just the other night in Minnesota, they were screaming pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. We don't need this. We don't need a movement like that. I put them on the same -- on the same line as I would the Ku Klux Klan or Black Liberation Army. We police officers you know have to be aware as this type of rhetoric going on right now, we need to be more careful of possible assassinations. We've had about 26 police officers shot in the line of duty already this year.

WHITFIELD: Now, and again, we don't know the motivation behind this gunman. We don't know if there was any link you know or inspiration that there may be as it pertains to, say, the black lives matter movement or any movement or association of a group as far as we know. So you know, this shooting does follow, you know, the cold-blooded shootings of two officers in Brooklyn, just months ago. In your view, will these incidents in any way precipitate some sort of change or policy for police departments? We heard the Harris County Sheriff say yesterday, that -- how much more can we protect ourselves, talking about police officers.

HOUCK: Well, I tell you, I see two police officers on patrol instead of one because of what's going on right now. It's much more dangerous for police officers. So I'd like to see two police officers, this way they're able to back each other up in the event something like this happens or we can at least capture the perpetrator right away. But as police officers, there's not really much more we can do, except be extra vigilant. And you're going to see police officers, if I was working today out there, I would be extra vigilant when it came to confronting people on the street.

WHITFIELD: All right. Harry Houck, we'll leave it right there, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

HOUCK: Sure.

WHITFIELD: All right, still ahead, Bernie Sanders is closing in on Hillary Clinton in the latest poll, details on that next.

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WHITFIELD: All right, Democratic Presidential Hopeful Bernie Sanders is inching up on Hillary Clinton in a new Iowa poll, according to the Des Moines Register and Bloomberg Politics, bills Sanders is now within seven points of the Former Secretary of State. This morning on CNN's State of the Union, the Vermont Senator criticized President Barack Obama saying he squandered his big victory in 2008.

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BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: His biggest political mistake is after his brilliant 2008 political campaign, when he rallied millions of people to stand up and fight back, basically what he said after he was elected, well, I will take it from here, I will negotiate with Bainer and Mitch McConnell and Republicans. Two points, first of all, these guys never had any intention of seriously negotiating. I think the President has caught onto that. But second of all, the powers that be in Washington, Wall Street, the huge campaign donors, the Koch Brothers, are so powerful that the only way we bring about real change in this country, which represents the needs of the middle class and working families is when millions of people stand up and say, enough is enough. They are organized and that is what I'm talking about when I speak about a political revolution. No president, not Bernie Sanders or anybody else can do it unless millions of people say you know what, this country belongs to all of us, our government must represent all of us and not just a handful of billionaires. It can't be done within the beltway itself. We need a mass movement. And that's what we are trying to create and are succeeding in creating right now. Not only in Iowa, not only in New Hampshire, but all over this country, we're generating enormous enthusiasm. People do not understand why the middle class of this country is collapsing at the same time as almost all of the new income and wealth is going to the top 1 percent. People do not like the idea that as a result of citizen's united, our campaign finance system has become corrupt and politicians are dependent upon super packs and billionaires for money. People want us to deal with climate change, make college affordable. Those are the issues I have been talking about, those are the issues that are generating enormous enthusiasm from one end of this country to the other.

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WHITFIELD: All right. With me now from New York, Political Strategist Brian Morganstern and Columnist Ellis Henican, all right gentlemen, so let's talk now about this new poll out of Iowa. Bernie Sanders is just seven points behind Hillary Clinton now, this is just within the margin or error. So Ellis, what is it about what Bernie Sanders is saying that has caught this kind of traction?

ELLIS HENICAN, POLITICAL COLUMNIST: Well, his words are resonating, right? By the way, he probably ought to say them a little more quickly than he did in that previous bite. You have got to speed things up a little, Bernie in the big time here. But listen, the message is fairly appealing. A lot of Democrats support it, not just people on the progressive lane, in fact there may be some Republicans, moderate Republicans who like that middle class talk. I think he's onto something.

WHITFIELD: Brian, you think this -- I don't know, might strike a fire in Hillary Clinton too to know that he is kind of nipping at her heels?

BRIAN MORGANSTERN, POLITICAL STRATEGIST: Oh, absolutely. And look, it's based in this resentment towards the rich and powerful. We just heard those sound bites. Well, there's nobody more rich and powerful than Hillary Clinton. But in goes deeper than that. She is also sort of a living counter argument, because both she and Bill came from humble beginnings to the White House and a $100 million fortune. So on multiple levels, there's a credibility gap between the sort of every man, Bernie Sanders and the elite aristocrat that we see now.

WHITFIELD: Can he be talking less about the Clinton's because -- as you say, you know starting from more -- I guess modest beginnings and might he be talking more about a Donald Trump?

HENICAN: You know what, Fred, the Bernie message is not anti-Hillary. In that poll, if you drill down into it, you'll notice that people are supporting Bernie in larger numbers. Not because they have some particular issue with Hillary, they just feel like the issues that he is pounding are things that really affect real people's lives. So I think that may be the message more to Hillary than dissing of her or the emails or some other complaints.

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WHITFIELD: All right. The Des Moines Register poll also revealing that the majority of voters don't think the Clinton email issue is really that important. And if that is the case, then what is eroding her lead, Brian?

MORGANSTERN: Well, I think Bernie's promising more free stuff. He's promising to take more money away from billionaires, that's a key tenant of his platform, taking money away from rich people, transferring it to other people. And he's promising more of that more directly, more succinctly where Hillary speaking more in platitudes and trying to stay above the fold a little bit. Bernie is really just cutting to the core of it.

WHITFIELD: So why is money, I guess, a detriment for a Hillary Clinton, but money is an attribute for a Donald Trump, Ellis?

HENICAN: Well, it may not be a detriment in the end. We don't want to be naive here. We've covered enough of these things to understand money is what helps you get your message out. Particularly in places like Iowa where you need to organize -- this is the era that money in politics still matters. So I don't want to sound too candy-eyed about that.

WHITFIELD: Ok and so this poll, the Des Moines Register Poll as it pertains to the Republicans, putting Donald Trump on top, 23 percent support Ben Carson making gains with 18 percent support, the rest of the pack -- Jeb Bush all registering single digit support levels. So Brian, is Ben Carson -- is he winning appeal because he is kind of the anti-professional politician and he's not the billionaire also?

MORGANSTERN: Well, that's part of it. You know, actually Americans across the spectrum are dissatisfied with politicians. As part this poll, 60 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of Republicans are fed up with politicians in general. So that's something that Ben Carson is capitalizing on. He also came off as a very likable guy, very personable person in the debate and people are getting to know him.

WHITFIELD: The smart comments and all that.

HENICAN: Absolutely. He's coming off as a likeable guy. So that helps too.

WHITFIELD: Ok. Brian Morganstern, Ellis Henican, thanks so much gentlemen, always good to see you. Have a great week.

All right, don't forget the Republican presidential contenders will be debating on CNN Wednesday, September 16th, right around the corner. And we'll be right back too right around the corner.

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WHITFIELD: A look at our top stories now, a rising star who made history on Broadway, suddenly falling to his death, 21-year-old Kyle Jean-Baptiste died Saturday after falling from a fire escape. He was the first African-American to play the lead role in a Broadway production of Les Miserables.

And Europe is calling for change in railway security after an attempted terror attack on a train in France, they want an increase in identity and baggage checks at stations, more police patrols on board international trains, and better coordination on intelligence and security across Europe's border-free travel zone.

And for richer or poorer, well this couple struck it big. Just one day after getting married, they won a $4 million lottery prize in Massachusetts. And here they are with their daughter as well. They are taking that lump sum after taxes of $2.6 million. They're going to use it on a honeymoon, paying off student loans, buying two cars, and then they say they're going to build an oasis right in their backyard.

And New England Patriots Quarterback, Tom Brady and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell are due back in a New York courtroom tomorrow for the final Deflate Gate hearing in front of a judge. Judge Richard Berman after nearly eight months, this could be the week the Deflate Gate saga comes to an end perhaps. Our Andy Schultz has the latest, Andy?

ANDY SCHULTZ, CNN SPORTS: Fredricka, both sides are still giving no signs of budging when it comes to reaching a settlement over Tom Brady's four game suspension, which means the Judge Berman is likely going to have to make a ruling in this case. But even if we do finally get a ruling, it likely won't be the end of Deflate Gate.

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SCHULTZ: If and when Judge Richard Berman hands down a ruling, the Deflate Gate saga may still be far from over. Even if the Tom Brady wins and Judge Berman overturns his four-game suspension, Brady wouldn't be out of the woods just yet. The NFL could appeal to the Second Circuit Court, and if they overturn Judge Berman's ruling, Brady could possibly miss games when the Patriots are making a push for the playoffs.

MIKE MCCANN, PROFESSOR OF LAW, UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE: If Tom Brady wins before Judge Berman, the appeals court could reverse and hold later on this year, perhaps in November or December or maybe January, at a time of the year when the games may be more meaningful for the Patriots and for Tom Brady that in fact he is suspended.

SCHULTZ: The good news for Brady is that the appeals process could take months or even years, 2008, former Minnesota Vikings Pat Williams was suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy. But thanks to many appeals and injunctions, Williams not only played the entire 2008 season, he played in 2009 and 2010 and then retired before his case was ever resolved.

JOEY JACKSON, LEGAL ANALYST: Justices move by their time frame. The wheels of justice move, but ever so slowly. So it's certainly possible and potentially likely that this won't be resolved if it goes to the appellate level within the NFL season itself.

SCHULTZ: If Judge Berman rules for the NFL, and upholds Brady's suspension, Brady and the NFL Player's Association could also file an appeal to the Second Circuit Court, but time would be of the essence with the Patriots opening the season on September 10th.

JACKSON: Brady would have to ask Berman to stay the suspension pending his appeal. And so that would be up to the judge in terms of whether they did that.

MCCANN: It's often difficult to get a stay. But the argument will be that he'll never get those games back if he misses the first four games of the season. The NFL would say look, even if misses those four games, he'll get them back if he later on wins because we would owe him money. So there would be a fight over that.

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SCHULTZ: Another option for Judge Berman is to simply send this case back to arbitration with the stipulation that an independent arbitrator rules on the case, not Roger Goodell. If that happens, the appeals process would basically be starting all over again and would certainly last into the start of the season, Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: My gosh, Andy this is never ending. All right, thank you so much.

All right, thank you so much for spending your Sunday with me, I'm Fredricka Whitfield. The next hour of the CNN NEWSROOM begins right now.