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Just-Released Clinton E-mails Were Kept On Her Private Server; Prosecutor: Alleged Cop Killer Found Mentally Incompetent in 2012; America's Choice 2016; Bernie Sanders Still faces Big Hurdles For Dem Nomination; Sanders Makes Gains In Iowa; State Dept. Releases More Clinton E-mails; Muddled Middle-Class Message; Is It From MH370?; Remarkable Rescue. Aired 9-10p ET.

Aired August 31, 2015 - 21:00   ET

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: A little after 9:00 P.M., here's breaking news out of Washington tonight with State Department moments ago put out another batch of Hillary Clinton e-mails.

They were kept you'll remember in a private server in the Clinton home in Chappaqua, New York while she was secretary of state and already they factored heavily into her presidential campaign. Elise Labott at -- excuse me -- at the State Department just gotten her first look at them. She joins us now.

So what exactly are you looking for with this new batch?

ELISE LABOTT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson. First of all, I'm looking at that time period 2009 to 2010. It's still the Obama administration fight between the White House and Clinton's camp about who's going to get nominated for certain positions. That was also 2010 the beginning of the of the WiikiLeak Scandal. So looking how Secretary Clinton handled that.

But there's also 150 we're told e-mails that has information that has since been made classified, not classified at that time, not marked classified but retroactively classified now because this information is being released to the public.

So I'm going to be looking to see what's been redact and what issues are related to this because as you know, there's been a lot of criticism about Secretary Clinton that she was handling classified information. We want to know in particular what issues that's (inaudible).

COOPER: And it maybe premature to ask this. Have you seen anything so far?

LABOTT: Haven't seen anything so far. Literally as we were in break the information just for those e-mails were just posted. So we're going through them as quickly as we can. We'll have some information but 7,000 pages were told about 12 percent of them have been redacted.

COOPER: It's going to be a long way. Elise Labott, we appreciate you doing that. We'll check back shortly. In Houston, there's breaking news in the murder of a local sheriff's deputy. New information about the alleged killer's mental health history and possibly his more recent state of mind. The facts are terrible and terribly sad.

Friday night, somebody came up behind this man Harris County sheriff's deputy Darren Goforth open fire with a 40 caliber semi-automatic pistol. The Deputy Goforth is a 10-year veteran of the department, a father of young son and daughter. Tonight the suspect is in custody. The case is become rightly or not, fairly or not part of a larger and deeply polarizing debate over the deaths of African American men and women and teenagers during encounters with the police and the treatment of the police.

We'll explore some of that dimension in a moment after CNN's Ed Lavandera brings us the breaking news. He joins us now. So what have you learned, Ed?

ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson, we have learned that in October of 2012, Shannon Miles was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon but he never went to trial on that charge. Before, he went to trial judge and then psychiatrist determined that he was not mentally capable of going to trial.

He was then sent to a state mental hospital for six months.

[21:05:00] This news comes as people are trying to get a better understanding of this man accused of murdering a beloved sheriff's deputy. And they had their first look at him in court today.

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LAVANDERA: It was so quiet when Shannon Miles walked into the Houston courtroom. You could only hear the sound of the shackles around his ankles and waist. A show of force looking on as several dozen sheriffs' deputies stared down the man accused of killing their fellow Officer.

DEVON ANDERSON, HARRIS COUNTY PROSECUTOR: He unloaded the entire weapon into Deputy Goforth.

LAVANDERA: Prosecutors gave the most detailed account yet of how Shannon Miles allegedly ambushed Deputy Darren Goforth as he was walking back to his patrol car at pump number eight.

ANDERSON: He runs behind Deputy Goforth and put the gun at to the back of his head and shoots. Deputy Goforth hits the ground and then he continues to unload his gun shooting repeatedly into the back of Deputy Goforth.

LAVANDERA: The prosecutor says Miles emptied all the rounds from his 40 caliber hand gun -- 15 shots in all before walking to his truck and driving away from the scene. Deputy Goforth left dead in a pool of his own blood shell casings on the ground around him. On this spot now, a memorial of teddy bears and flowers has blossomed in Deputy Goforth's honor.

Investigators say ballistic tests link to shell casing at the crime scene to a handgun found in Shannon Miles' home garage. Investigators are trying to determine the motive for a shooting. Investigators described as cowardly and cold-blooded. But the sheriff says Deputy Goforth was targeted because he wore a uniform.

SHERIFF RON HICKMAN, HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS: This rhetoric has gotten out of control. We've heard Black Lives Matter, All Lives Matter. Well, cops' lives matter too. So why don't we just drop the qualifier and just say Lives Matter and take that to the bone.

LAVANDERA: According to Miles' Facebook page, he bounced around various Houston area colleges including the university where Sandra Bland was supposed to work.

SANDRA BLAND: Don't touch me. I'm not under arrest. I have the right to tell you...

UNIDENTIFED MALE: You are under arrest.

LAVANDERA: Bland's case garnered intense scrutiny this summer when she was found dead in her jail cell after being arrested during a traffic stop. All of these happened just a few miles down the road from where miles lives and where he allegedly shot and killed Deputy Goforth.

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COOPER: And we shoot point out Bland's death was determined to be suicide...

LAVANDERA: And Anderson, we've also...

COOPER: Go ahead, Ed.

LAVANDERA: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We've also learned from prosecutors that they've issued a subpoena for mental health records from a local mental health hospital here in the Houston area as well. And the defense attorney for -- and attorney for Shannon Miles also tells us that one of the first things they're going top do is order up a psychological evaluation of Shannon Miles. So clearly all of the indication appears to be that much of what will happen in this investigation from here on out is an evaluation and an examination of Shannon Miles mental state when he was accused of murdering Deputy Goforth here in Houston.

COOPER: You know, there -- I mean there's question about his mental state but his criminal record is already known.

LAVANDERA: Right. And it's quite extensive dating outside of the date that we talked about this aggravated assault hit charged from October 2012. There's also many other charges not as serious as that dating back from between 2005 and 2009. So there's definitely a lot of history there for prosecutors and defense attorneys to pore over.

COOPER: Yeah. Ed Lavandera. Ed, thank you very much. Perspective now from CNN legal analyst and former federal prosecutor Sunny Hostin. Joining us as well is Chuck Canterbury, national president of Fraternal of Order Police who recently renewed a long time call to expand federal hate crimes legislation to include a tax targeting law enforcement officers. Chuck, and I'm sorry you're under these circumstances.

Do you believe, Chuck, that the killing of this deputy, Deputy Goforth, should be considered a hate crime. And does the fact that the suspect had previously been found mentally incompetent which we just learned to stand trial, does that change anything in anyway for you?

CHUCK CANTERBURY, NATIONAL PRESIDENT, FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE: I think all of these cases have to be investigated thoroughly before you can make a determination. The justice department would do an investigation if we qualified for hate crime protection, they would do an investigation and determine if there was a personal bias or a bias against the class involved in hate crime.

In this particular case, I think the investigation is still at the early stage but from the circumstances that we know, it was an assassination of a police officer for no other reason than the fact that he was wearing a uniform.

COOPER: Sunny, do you think police should be in a protected class in that killing of police officer would be a hate crime?

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I think historically when you look at hate crimes are really reserved for people that are targeted because ofd their race or the sexual orientation or disability...

COOPER: Religion.

HOSTIN: ... and religion, national origin. So I don't know that it is appropriate for our officers to be labeled sort of as a group under that particular statue. But to be clear, anyone that shoots an officer typically in each and every state, that is a first degree murder charge.

[21:10:02] And so, officers do get special protection under the law. There's no question about that. I don't think it's sort of appropriate to sort of extend that to hate crimes.

COOPER: Mr. Canterbury, do you think it would -- be a deterrent or do you think it just sends a message?

CANTERBURY: Well, I think it sends a message just as the hate crime legislation was originally designed to do was to allow people the understanding that there are certain classes of individuals that are protected because of status for ethnicity, sexual preference.

In these particular cases, the assassination of police officers on the rise, nine last year, four this year, and they are protected class. They need to be protected. Our police officers are out protecting the citizens of this country.

And enough is enough. 60,000 police officers assaulted a year and that's not what they signed on to do. They signed to protect a lives and property. And they're not out there to be assaulted by the general public.

And hate crime legislation to add us to that protected class would allow the American people to understand that the assassination of a police officer is the bias event and that they deserve that protection.

COOPER: Sheriff -- sorry -- Sunny, the sheriff Houston raised a lot of eyebrows and got a lot of support as well for saying that sort of heated rhetoric from members -- some members of Black Lives Matter movement has made it more difficult for police officers.

And he kind of linked it to the killing of this deputy though he -- the sheriff admits we don't know what exactly the motive of this person was that's still being investigated. Do you think a linkage can be made? Do you think it's inappropriate to make it so quickly?

HOSTIN: I do. I was actually disappointed that the sheriff made that link and especially so early on in an investigation anyone that's dealt with law enforcement especially a sheriff knows that you don't make that linkage so early and it was quite inflammatory.

And so, I'm surprised at that. I also think, you know, bottom line is we have the first amendment and so people are allowed to voice their frustration even in artfully, the way some in the Black Lives Matter movement. And so I think it's really inappropriate to make that sort of link.

It's just -- it's not fair right now and what we do know in terms of motive is this is a man that has a significant mental health history. When you're talking about someone not being found competent to stand trial and someone being placed against his or her will for six months, that is an indication of a significant, significant mental disease or defect. And so, I think this is really more about mental health.

And Anderson, I know I talked about it all the time, but when are we going to start talking about mental health and gun control? Because why our people that have that kind of mental history able to get guns to shoot a police officer 15 times is just beyond me and perhaps the officer should talk about that.

COOPER: We should point out -- well, we should also point out actually this guy was actually shot off a gun years ago in public. He served time in jail for that, had the gun confiscate for that.

But, Chuck, do you believe that there is a linkage between rhetoric that's been spoken by some rhetoric on social media and violence against police officers in particular with this what you determined as assassination, this cold-blooded murder?

CANTERBURY: Anderson, I believe there are people in this country that are willing and able to commit violent crimes at any time. The rhetoric and the calling for the assassination, the calling for pigs in a blanket, let them fry, that's like screaming fire in a movie theater.

The police officers in this country are protected in the first amendment rights of everybody and we advocate that protection of all constitutional rights. But when you advocate violence in this society, it's a crime and they should be treated like a crime.

COOPER: Chuck Canterbury, I appreciate you being on again. I'm sorry some under these circumstances. Sunny Hostin as well.

Just ahead tonight, we have details from a new batch of Hillary Clinton's state department e-mails, Foreign Affairs Correspondent Elise Labott and her team have just gotten them. They're trying to speed read them as much as possible right now and check in with her shortly about what she is finding.

Later the piece of a wing that so much hope is riding on seems to be from the missing 777 Malaysia Airlines' flight 370. Well now the Spanish company that made the part is weighing in. We'll tell you what they had to say about it and why more needs to be done before it can be determined when we continue.

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COOPER: And tonight, our foreign affairs correspondent is going through the latest edition of e-mail from Hillary Clinton's private server when she was secretary of state. There are about 7,000 of them so she is reading as quickly as she can. We'll get some details from her shortly as she reads and as we weigh we want to look at the kind of drag that the story could be putting on the Clinton campaign as well as the appeal this primary season of anti-establishment candidates that like Donald Trump have been course in on the Democratic side Vermont senator, Bernie Sanders. A new polling tonight on the state of the raise in Iowa, our chief national correspondent John King has the numbers.

John, Bernie Sanders with striking this since of Hillary Clinton shows the details.

JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, Bernie Sanders has to encouraged by the numbers. Let start in Iowa, Bernie Sanders at second percent -- second place, I'm sorry in the new Iowa poll at 30 percent but Hillary Clinton stand out at 37 percent. So Bernie Sanders within seven points that's the first time Hillary Clinton is below 50 and it says here, 31st report has a back grade on Iowa of the past few months. So Bernie Sanders it has to be encouraged with that. We should note Joe Biden is there at 14 percent but Bernie Sanders with this striking distance now in Iowa.

The latest New Hampshire poll has Bernie Sanders actually in the lead by seven points so Hillary Clinton trailing in one state, very competitive in the state of Iowa, it's just a fascinating race. Can he build on this, we'll see but he's in great shape as the summer ends and we turn to September.

COOPER: And Sanders, I mean he's got momentum on the polls. He's drawing huge crowds in terms of actually getting the nomination what kind of hurdles do we have tackle?

KING: This is the defining question for Sanders, is he a message candidate is he more of approaches candidate or is he a candidate to win the democratic nomination because let's assume he does well on Iowa when there was very close second. Let's assume he does well on New Hampshire when there's a close second. Bernie is in a race with Hillary Clinton.

The race goes out next to Nevada, February 20th. Labor support key here organizing Latino voter's key here. Sanders does have labor support. His political career's been based on Vermont not a lot of track record going after Latinos, then from there the race would come to South Carolina.

[21:20:01] This is the first state where you have a majority of the Democratic primary electorate African-American. Bernie Sanders again has been in Vermont all his life, hasn't competed for the black vote much. This is the Hillary Clinton's constituency especially with Obama not in the race. So that would be another big question and a challenge. There's the biggest one, Anderson.

After those contest, you do in Nevada, you do in South Carolina, that on March 1st, about a dozen states are going to vote.

Now, Sanders own state of Vermont votes that day, Massachusetts votes that day, Minnesota might be friendly to the liberal Sanders. But then you get into a number of states, you have Alabama and Georgia, a majority of the Democratic electorate African-Americans. North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, about a third of the Dem -- 30 percent to a third of the electorate of the African-Americans.

Texas is about 20 percent African-American, another 30 percent Latino. So not only does he have to have a diverse coalition, Bernie Sanders build and organized that, but with the dozen states on the map, you got to do your delegate work. You got to do your state work. You got to have the money for television ads. This will be a test of whether Bernie Sanders again is a message candidate working out the national campaign.

COOPER: Yeah, John, stay with us because I want to bring in Gloria Borger, our CNN Chief Political Analyst. When you're talking to people in Iowa, I mean do they see this as a protest vote for Bernie Sanders or do people you talked to in Iowa, in New Hampshire, really feel like he could get the nomination?

GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: You know, I think that what voters are doing in those too early states right now is they're kind of dating Bernie Sanders a little bit. They're not sure they want to marry him yet.

It's not that they don't like Hillary Clinton. She's got a 77 percent favorability. He's got favorability of 73 percent. So they're taking a look at someone new and they like what they see.

But here's something also to keep in mind, two-thirds of the Democrats in those early states believe that Hillary Clinton could actually win a general election. Democrats want to win. They don't necessarily feel the same way about Bernie Sanders. They're going to have to see how this develop, but they've want to nominate a candidate they think can beat the Republicans.

COOPER: John, how bigger problem is it going to be that Bernie Sanders has in the past identified himself as a socialist? I mean if he continues to get a lot of Hillary Clinton's thunder, would she ever use that against him?

KING: You just asked what potentially could become the, the, the underlying that again and keep running it out to finding question. Right now the Clinton campaign says Bernie Sanders is a friend. We have no intention of attacking him whether it's through direct rail, whether through e-mail, whether through television ads to conventional weapons if you will in politics.

Hillary Clinton's friends in the Super PAC community say Bernie Sanders is part of the family. We have no intention of negative ads against Bernie Sanders. If he were to win the state of Iowa, if he were to win the state of New Hampshire or essentially be in the dead hit as the contents moves on, they would have to revisit that question.

Anderson, you make a key point. When you move to south, you have a lot more conservative Democrats. Yes, levels of the base of the party, well, you move into those southern states, the socialist label would hurt Bernie Sanders more without a doubt. The question is will Secretary Clinton herself or some of her friends in the Super PAC community. Will it come to that point when the Democratic way comes in from a friendly competition into a battle?

COOPER: Gloria, I mean you look at the age factor on Bernie Sanders.

BORGER: Yeah.

COOPER: He will be 75 when he would be entering the White House. Ronald Reagan was 77 when he was leaving.

BORGER: Right. I mean, look, you know, Bernie Sanders is not a string chicken as they say. Hillary Clinton is 67. Donald Trump is 69 years old. Joe Biden is 72 years old.

It seems to me that voters right now aren't talking about age. They are talking about where you are on the spectrum and they want to see you as an outsider. They don't care about how old you are. If somebody who's older gets nominated -- and you know this, Anderson -- then we all start talking about will that person have a single term, who will that person's vice president be.

That was very important with John McCain if you recall. But right now, it's a little too early to start talking about whether they would nominate somebody who's 60 plus. COOPER: It's cable news. It's never too early to start talking about anything.

BORGER: OK, not too early. I take it back. I take it back.

COOPER: Gloria Border, thanks, John King as well.

KING: You're welcome.

COOPER: All right. Just ahead. There's newly released Clinton e- mails. I'm with Elise Labott and her team will find it. We'll check back in with her within a moment.

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COOPER: At the top of our broadcast with Elise Labott here just come in the latest batch of Hillary Clinton's State Department e-mails. She's been going through them with the help of her team. Joins us again with some early findings. Anything jumped out?

LABOTT: Well, no big bomb shells, Anderson, but a few interesting things. Now Secretary Clinton talking about needing a teleprompter for her speech. She was going to be giving on a run at the time that her aides were having secret talks with Iran.

And I also want to look at some of these e-mails just to show you how they run the gamut in just one 10-day period. We're talking about in June 2010, Secretary Clinton's iPad arriving and she's looking forward.

It says your iPad has arrived. And she says exciting news, can you teach me to use it on the flight to Kiev. So that's pretty kind of mundane, but then just a few days later, there's an e-mail entitled Lavrov. So, we're talking about the Russian Foreign Minister and all it says is from one of her aide can you run the traps. And at the rest of it here is redacted.

So it just shows from the mundane to the pre-sensitive and that were -- there's an e-mail we'll hear from Sidney Blumenthal, a three-page e-mail that talks about the crisis in Kyrgyztstan and Sidney Blumenthal as you know is a very close adviser to Clinton never remade it to the State Department staff over objections from the White House, but he was still sending her kind of intelligence that he was gleaming from his sources. And it shows the relationship between Clinton and Blumenthal that I think is really been a focus particularly of the Benghazi committee and that's how this all started, Anderson.

COOPER: And just to be clear, I mean, the e-mails now marked classified, they were not classified at the time, is that correct?

LABOTT: Not classified at that time, not marked classified at that time. They've been upgrade to classified. I'm told by sources that the vast majority of them have the lowest level of classification and that's because this all started from what we call a FOIA, Freedom of Information Act lawsuit to get some of these documents released to the public.

[21:30:05] So while they don't necessarily have to be on a classified system at the same time they don't want this information released to the public so that's why they're rejecting a lot of them. But in some of these previous batches, there had some information that was since leveled to top secret.

So, I think, you know, you've -- 150 e-mails now that's about 13 percent of the e-mails. It's about, you know, double the amount of e- mails that were upgraded from the previous batch and I think it reflects the State Department kind of erring on the side of classifying more because they've been under a lot of criticism from the intelligence community that they weren't classifying enough in taking the sense of the material seriously enough.

COOPER: All right. Elise, I appreciate it. Thanks very much. Joining us now is Democratic Strategist Paul Begala. He co-chairs a pro-Hillary Clinton's Super PAC. He was a long time adviser of President Bill Clinton. Also GOP's strategist Ana Navarro, she's a Jeb Bush supporter, good friend of Marco Rubio as well as an adviser to other GOP candidates.

Paul, let me start with you. The idea that the e-mails weren't classified at the time, do you think voters care about that caveat? And you know, I'm not saying I don't think voters care at all about this.

PAUL BEGALA, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIEST: Yeah. Well, we know from the Dem (ph) Registry Poll which is mostly bad news for Hillary, right? That John King talked better there and she's down to 37 and she is -- Bernie Sanders when spent the distance in that very poll. A bad news for Hillary, they asked people do you care about the e-mails, 17 percent said they care about the e-mails.

I do think -- it -- Congress cares a lot about it, God bless them, controlled by the Republicans. They keep digging to it. We in the press -- apparently I'm not really in the press, but the press really seems to care about it, so fine. We'll grind through all of these.

But where we are today is where we've been for months which is she ain't break any rules, she didn't send or receive anything that was marked classified because how are you going to know? What apparently was happening from Elise's reporting is that post facto. People are looking back and saying, "Gee, we should have classified this. We should classify this now less, you know, the -- our readers and viewers and listeners actually know what their government is doing."

There's a terrific article I recommend you, Matthew Miller, former Justice Department spokesman wrote saying "The real scandal here is how we over classify things." And Miller's job at Justice was trying to get information out and he talks about how it just completely nuts our system is how we over classified so many things. But...

COOPER: I mean, Anna, do you -- were you told that this is not going to be a big deal -- and I'm assuming on Democratic voters or do you think it is? ANA NAVARRO, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: I think that's already a big deal. And look, you know, I gave also the kudos to my friend, Paul. But when you're on T.V. having to explain the minutia of the classification process, it's not something you would like to be doing.

I live in Miami, Florida where it rains a lot. When you have a leak and it drip, drips, drips, you know, maybe one time it doesn't do anything, maybe two times it doesn't do anything, but if you don't take care of that leak, next thing you know your roof is going to fall, your ceilings going to fall right on top of you.

And that's the problem that Hillary Clinton has, that this is a constant drip, drip, drip that does not go away. There's new revelations coming out every week. When you ask voters what the first word they are associated with her...

COOPER: Well, they said liar.

NAVARRO: ... it's dishonest, liar, untrustworthy. So, it's a problem already. It's not a problem in the future, it's now.

COOPER: Yeah, yeah, Paul, I mean what about that, could that be, Paul, the first word people using to describe Hillary Clinton liar.

BEGALA: Right. The only other politician whose numbers on untrustworthiness is -- are as high as Donald Trump and he haven't had months and months of congressional investigations and attacks. And I'm just curious now. What I want is fair is fair, right?

Jeb Bush is he's...

COOPER: By the way, his untrustworthy numbers have radically changed.

BEGALA: They have it on Republicans, but I'm -- I don't believe they have across, but I'll check. I'll check on it and he may be -- entirely right.

My point there is I want fair treatment across the board. Why haven't that Jeb's taken dive? Because nobody points out. For example that Jeb Bush had a private e-mail account when he was governor as well as well as his governmental one, 280,000 e-mails according to PolitiFact...

COOPER: But he doesn't have classified information.

BEGALA: Well, but maybe could classify -- he help rig and steal the 2000 election. He hasn't released one e-mail from that time not one. He's a lot more important than what she had for lunch with some mayor of Kiev, OK?

Jeb has not released any of that. He hasn't released one e-mail about Terri Schiavo, heartbreaking case where he intervened in the life and death decisions of the married couple, the wife, Terri Schiavo we all remember was in a chronic vegetative state and he invaded that family's privacy. No e-mails has he released about that.

So I just want fair as fair. Let's look at both sides.

COOPER: Ana, is that fair?

NAVARRO: All right, Paul. That's not -- no, I don't think it's fair as in quite it is. It's a wonderful attempt and a distraction tactic and, you know, let's face it. Jeb was Governor of the state of Florida, Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, OK?

She wasn't secretary of yoga. She wasn't sending and receiving 50,000 e-mails on yoga routine.

[21:35:01] Some of the e-mails she was sending and receiving were very sensitive information that other governments and sides would like to get their hands on. And she made a mistake doing this because she wanted to have absolute control of everything.

Her paranoia and her victim syndrome let her to want to have control and that's lead to this entire problem. And also look at the way she's handled it, she -- it let -- she gets from her stand, she's been flipping, she's tried unsuccessfully to use humor. You know, this is a serious thing. This is not a laughing matter. The national security did not receive.

COOPER: We're going to leave there. Paul, good to have you, Ana Navarro as well. Up next Hillary Clinton's call to help the middle class is the message being muddled by word? She's vacation, your pretty exclusive part of the country were summering is actually a verb. You can decide at yourself and we'll continue.

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COOPER: Welcome back. Joe Biden is still the big wild card in the Democratic primary he's polling better than Hillary Clinton and gets their Republican field. And also it's better favorability ratings in Mrs. Clinton. Now, if he decides to run, his blue collar background say his reporters could give him powerful leverage where Hillary Clinton maybe most vulnerable.

[21:40:04] Last night she was back in the Hampton's for fund raiser guests reportedly pay as much as $2,700 to get in. Just days earlier she cut short her vacation there to campaign in the Midwest, more now tonight from Randi Kaye.

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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So I'm going to do everything I can to try to get that deck reshuffled. So being middle class mean something again.

RANDY KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Middle class, two words Hillary Clinton would like voters to associate with her campaign but it may take a whole lot more than a campaign add called reshuffle the deck and rebuild the middle class for what she calls everyday Americans to buy in.

CLINTON: When you see that you've got CEOs making 300 times what the average workers' making, you know, the deck is stock can favor of those at the top.

KAYE: But that's precisely where she and her husband fine themselves. They are once again summering in the Hampton's on Long Island the eastern shore reportedly renting the seven bedroom house with the lot pool by the beach that cause $100,000 for two weeks.

So if she really is try to reshuffle the deck for the middle class, why rub elbows with so many 1 percenters especially in a swanky spot where A listers like Jerry Seinfeld and Steven Spielberg hang out. When ask why the Hampton's Clinton had said simply, it's where her friends are and it's also where the money is.

In addition to pilling around with A listers, Hillary is hitting them up for money like at this fund raiser where the guest list included supermodel Christie Brinkley targeting the super rich to help fund the political campaigns may not be unusual but at the speech in July in New York City, Hillary Clinton made this promise.

CLINTON: I will get up everyday thinking about the families of America like the family that I came from with the hard working Dad who start a small business in scrap and save and gave us a good middle class life.

KAYE: Moments like this at the Iowa states fair may help hammer that message home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's really good.

KAYE: After I with Hillary hop on a private jet to mark his vineyard to attend the party where she in build then to Stevie Wonders, "I wish". Earlier in the summer Hillary attended a fund raiser thrown by Justin Bieber's manager posing for selfies with Kim and Kanye and mingling with John Travolta and Dreamworks CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg and there's the question of Clinton's own net worth. Remember when Hillary took hit for telling Diane Sawyer this after leaving the White House?

CLINTON: We came out at the White House not only dead broke but in debt.

KAYE: They are certainly doing better now. In July, the Clinton's release their last date tax returns showing they earned $139 million in adjusted gross income for that time. She earned nearly $10 million in speaking fees in 2013 alone. It's a lifestyle everyday Americans may not be able to relate to no matter how many times Hillary Clinton promises to turn the tie. Randi Kaye, CNN New York.

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COOPER: The former Vice President Dick Cheney is swaying in a Hillary Clinton. He describes her handling for a e-mail is quote sloppy and unprofessional. This comment is part of a wide ranging conversation he had -- he and his daughter I should say had with CNN special correspondent Jamie Gangel which covered a number of themes and Mr. Cheney and his new book "Exceptional: Why The World Needs a More Powerful America". Here's a preview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JAMIE GANGEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You and the book blame the spread of Isis on President Obama. He say's, it's your fault that Bush-Cheney left origin unstable.

DICK CHENEY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: Well I think he is wrong. Look at the record. We had a situation in which by the time we got through the surge, you know, '07 and '08 President Bush made a very courageous decision, very correct decision and Iraq was in good shape when left the office and Barack Obama said as much. What happen basically was they failed to follow through. They would do as quickly as possible and that no stay behind enforce there. They created a vacuum and the vacuum was filled by Isis.

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COOPER: That's one interpretation, tune in for more of that interview tomorrow night here on 360. Meantime, tonight after all the hopes that a small part of an airline weighing might be part of the missing MH370 is significant new development tonight.

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COOPER: And a possible dead end in the world's biggest unsolved aviation mystery. That part of a wing that wash the shore on an island in Indian Ocean, Malaysia's prime minister has said there's no doubt that it came from Malaysia Airline Flight 370. Today though, the Spanish manufacture weight in and it's not hopeful news, Martin Savidge which has the latest from Paris.

Martin why exactly our French investigators is not able to tell whether or not this part is from 370?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They've run up against the number of factors that they probably didn't anticipate they we're going to have. Initially, I think many people thought that we would have an answer within 24 hours. The France thought for sure that they would buy the inside that flaperon that serial number and that serial number they could quickly got a Boeing with Boeing would say, "Yes MH370."

But according to all the stories that we spoken to there is no serial number inside either it was torn off in the accident or it fell off when it was floating in the ocean or it wasn't there to begin with but it's not there now.

So then they've had do to deeper inside of the plat run itself in tone interior parts which have numbers they apparently belong to a Spanish subcontractor. They reach out to that company and the way that a little bit but then an engineer got back to them source to tell us last week and unfortunately there again the news was bad. The company said "No, we have not been able through our records to trick -- track them rather that back to MH370." So two strikes already and then lastly we've heard that they had paint samples and that the French have even tried to much those and the results there have been inconclusive, Anderson.

COOPER: So they can't match the paint and they can't get this information from the Spanish Company with their records where to investigators turn?

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SAVIDGE: You know, this is really what is so frustrating because of course the French do believe this is from MH370. It makes all that logic. I mean of course there's only one missing in 777, you know, a flaperon washes up. So it makes logical sense.

But they want more than that especially for the victims' families who need closure. They need this kind of finality to it. But so far, they haven't found it and they're running out of options.

COOPER: Yeah. I mean do they have any kind of a timeline or for when they can know what the degree of certainty?

SAVIDGE: No, they don't. This is being done by the Paris prosecutor's office. They're actually looking at this as if it were some sort of crime and under the rules and the laws in which they operate, there is no deadline for them. It doesn't like they have to within a month or within six months. There is no exact timeframe in which they report. However it is expected that of course the world's waiting. It's been a month.

So it's anticipated and we're hearing there could be something coming out perhaps as early as this week, but it's not expected to be the revelation that everyone thought which was this part came from MH370. It appears just to be another frustrating dead end.

COOPER: Yeah. Martin, I'm glad you're there. Martin, thanks.

Just ahead tonight, remarkable Katrina rescue and the two boys were alive today because of it.

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COOPER: 10 years ago tonight, two days after Katrina made landfall 80 percent of New Orleans was flooded thousands of people who were left behind or stayed behind were stranded in the city without power. Horrific conditions inside hospitals were critically all patients waited days to be rescued, the power outage and failure back of generators, put logs and jeopardy. Tonight that remarkable rescue story that save one family's dream to have more children.

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ANDREA WILLS, FROZEN EMBRYOS RESCUED DURING KATRINA: My gosh. The seven years that we end it was bad. We cried and prayed and cried and I was angry and I didn't know why, why? You know, they said nothing is wrong with you guys. There's no reason why you can't have baby.

COOPER: Andrea Wills and her husband tried everything to get pregnant but nothing worked nothing until an experimental in vitro fertilization process gave them twin boys. Another two embryonic was still frozen in a fertility clinic in New Orleans about two hours from there Mississippi home then Katrina struck.

WILLS: When the hurricane came through we lost all power, we lost phone, I had no clue what something anywhere else except where we were and it just hit me. My gosh, my babies and they are in the sign predicament as all this people set in the Superdome that was being on T.V.

COOPER: Andrea forensically calls the clinic but no one answered. Before Katrina however the canisters containing for embryos in 1,200 other were moved to the second floor. Now that building was flooding and without power but a rescue mission was underway.

LT. CURT LEWIS, ILLINOIS CONSERVATION POLICE: It was a sergeant with the Illinois conservation police. Illinois put together his task force they're on their way and hope for the services to Louisiana for whatever they were in need of.

They told us that we have doctors and a couple of nurses that we need to transport out there to get into the flooded hospital and we need to try and recover these canisters as they have for those an embryo cells. The amount of liquid nitrogen that was keeping them frozen is quickly depleting especially in this heat and we have to get them to a facility and get them back into that cold storage.

When we got to the hospital, I mean we got to the canisters and we got through space where we look down and said OK they haven't been bridge, they are secure. So we carried them down the stairs out through the flood waters, golden men are boats and it's starts to hit you, OK we didn't just come here and pick up canisters, we came up here and pick up lives.

This is 400 potential children in our tour of being down there we've seen a lot of death. We've seen a lot of distraction. And now we've given back. We've given new life, new hope to those families that thought their hope was deteriorated when Katrina hit.

COOPER: The rescue occurred on September 11, 2005. In December 2006 Andrea Wills had twin, Span and Sam the first to recovered embryos brought to full term.

WILLS: I just thank this people that rescued our children. I want to introduce them to Sam and Ben and I would tell them, "Thank you for believing that this embryos were people." Because not everybody believe that that they are -- those are babies and I will say, "Look what you did and now our children are alive today because you did that. And I would hug them and asking, "And I thought you'd cry?" I would just thank them.

COOPER: I would just thank them and tell them that they are the heroes most definitely for doing that. Do you have a reaction for that?

LEWIS: Yeah, excuse me. That makes me a hero. It's amazing, you know, to think how much we impacted them.

COOPER: Sam and Ben.

LEWIS: That is awesome.

[22:00:03] That is fantastic.

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COOPER: Awesome indeed. I want to thank our colleagues at CNN Money for collaborating on that story. That does it for us. We'll see you again an hour from now at 11 p.m. Eastern. CNN Tonight with Don Lemon starts now.