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Barack Obama Announces U.S. Will Accept 10,000 Syrian Refugees; Torrential Flooding in Japan; Trump Widens Lead. Aired 3-4p ET.

Aired September 10, 2015 - 15:00:00   ET

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[15:00:07] HALA GORANI, HOST: Tonight the exodus continues and another world leader bows to pressure.

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GORANI: President Obama just announced the U.S. will accept 10,000 Syrian refugees.

And then torrential flooding in Japan forces thousands from their homes. Plus this hour no controversy, no headline grabbing remark seems to hurt

him. Donald Trump widens his lead, we have a live report.

And later, us humans have a new shockingly close relative we've just discovered. We'll get to know him or her or them.

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GORANI: Hello everyone I'm Hala Gorani, we're live at CNN London and this is The World Right Now.

Europe seems to be rapidly splitting into two camps; the countries that want mandatory refugee quotas and those that reject that idea outright.

In Austria the president says that sharing the burden equally is key to resolving the migrant crisis sweeping Europe.

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GORANI: Heinz Fischer spoke to CNN after his country was so overwhelmed by the influx that it was force to suspend train services to and from Hungary.

As for Denmark which had a much harder line, it seems to be relaxing its approach. It now says it will allow people to travel to Sweden and to move

freely. And of course, as you can imagine, the journey from Syria to Sweden is an impossibly long one as you can see on the map.

Atika Shubert has our story this evening.

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The river of refugees rolling across Europe has reached Denmark, hundreds marching up

the main artery connecting Germany to Sweden through Denmark shutting the motorway down for some time on Wednesday.

But the new Danish government has some very specific views on migrants; they'd rather they not come.

These are the ads the Danish government posted in a Lebanese paper a few days ago outline the country's tough new immigration law. When refugees

began to arrive by train and by boat, Danish police began pulling them aside to be registered and possibly departed.

SOREN RAVN-NILSEN, DANISH POLICE INSPECTOR: (As translated) We were here with a large police force and can deal with the situation even if it would

take days. We have enough staff to handle this problem.

SHUBERT: As it turned out few refugees wanted to make Denmark their home, some refused to get off trains demanding to be taken to Sweden. Others

decided to walk. By Wednesday night Danish police had taken the decision to allow refugees to travel freely to Sweden and beyond.

Denmark's newly elected center right government has vowed to uphold a campaign promise to crack down on migrants but at the same time the

government maintains it's doing its part. The Prime Minister says of the more than 3,000 refugees who come to Denmark more than 600 have sought

asylum in the country.

In Germany trains and ferries were stalled as police tried to clear the backlog of refugees there. Here's how one Syrian refugee explained his

decision to keep moving.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm from Syria, I want to go to Finland. I have come to German now, the government here is very good, everyone is very good,

they help us so much. But I want to go Finland because I leave my family in the frontier between here and Turkey and the situation there is so

dangerous. If I stay here in Germany maybe because there is so many people.

SHUBERT: Until all 28 states of the EU agree to united plan in tackling the crisis it seems refugees are taking matters into their own hands

traveling by car, train and on foot to any corner of Europe that they believe will give them the best chance at a new life.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.

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GORANI: Well we've just learned and as we mentioned at the top of this program that the U.S. President is ordering his administration to "scale up

the number of Syrian refugees it admits in the coming year to 10,000." Global affairs correspondent Elise Labott joins me now from our Washington

Bureau.

And Elise I was just checking out twitter. It's the sixth highest trending topic. 10,000 Syrian, this is worldwide. People are really talking about

the fact that the United States is opening its doors to more refugees but it's still quite a small number relatively speaking.

ELISE LABOTT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's quite a small number in compared to what other countries are doing.

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LABOTT: Hala if you take a look at what the U.S. does every year, it admits about 70,000 refugees.

[15:05:03] Yesterday Secretary of State, John Kerry, met with law makers on the hill as part of their annual discussions on the refugee resettlement

program Secretary Kerry asked to raise that to 75,000.

Today we understand that that number could increase and what the White House Press Secretary, Josh Earnest, said is at least 10,000 of those will

be Syrian refugees. Take a listen.

JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: This year that will end the fiscal year that will end at the end of this month, the United States is on

track to take in about 1500 Syrian refugees. The President has directed his team to scale up that number next year. And he's informed his team

that he would like them to accept, at least make preparations to accept at least 10,000 Syrian refugees in the next fiscal year.

LABOTT: Now, Hala if that 75,000 number increases officials tell me so will the number of Syrian refugees that the U.S. will take will also

increase. But right now we're talking about 10,000 Syrians at least. And then the U.S. also makes - points out it's the largest donor to countries

around the world particularly in the region who are housing a lot of these Syrian refugees.

So a lot of U.S. money, as much as $4 billion so far is going to help Syrian refugees in the region.

GORANI: All right, that's still more than the U.K. interestingly and certainly 10,000 more than some of those Gulf countries including Saudi

Arabia, so that's an interesting announcement today.

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GORANI: Thanks Elise Labott, in Washington. Let's take you to Japan now where at this hour rising flood waters are forcing hundreds of thousands of

people from their homes. And we're getting word of the first fatality.

The Kyodo News Agency reports a woman was killed by a landslide and at least nine people are still missing in the City of Joso alone. As Will

Ripley explains unprecedented rainfall has put large areas there under water. Take a look.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A wall of water in Eastern Japan leaving many stranded on rooftops, balconies, anywhere above water.

Japan activating its military, bringing in helicopters, rescue teams pulling people to safety searching flooded buildings for anyone trapped

inside.

Japan prone to all kinds of natural disasters but the rapidly rising Kinugawa River took many by surprise Thursday.

This is the first time this has happened says one longtime resident. Tens of thousands got evacuation orders many had just minutes carrying what

belongings they could unsure of what to do next.

I haven't seen anything like this in decades says this woman. She's one of thousands spending the night at evacuation centers; 100 of them providing

food, water and medicine.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe warning the region could see more unprecedented heavy rain meaning potentially more flooding at the already

waterlogged Fukushima nuclear plant.

Heavy rains from tropical storm Etau overwhelming the drainage systems causing radio-active water to leak into the ocean for several hours

Wednesday. Power company TEPCO says the situation is contained outside radiation levels normal for now.

The full scale of this disaster unknown. Also unknown how many people may still be waiting for rescue surrounding by flood waters hoping their house

won't be the next one dragged away.

Will Ripley, CNN, Tokyo.

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GORANI: Some dramatic images there. Of course people in those areas want to know will it get worse, is the worst over?

Let's bring in CNN Meteorologist Tom Sater for more. What is the forecast looking like at this stage?

TOM SATER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Where you see the pictures of the rescues and the flooding Hala, it is going to get better at least for the next

couple of those days and those waters will subside. The long term forecast however, September's the wettest month of the year for Japan and even

though they've been breaking all kinds of records, these records have been going on for weeks and months. It's not been very good since the beginning

of June.

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SATER: Here's the Kinugawa River as Will was pointed out. Now there's multi-faceted problems here. Landslides are in the higher elevations, this

is mainly a rural area but you can see the flooding that is now taking place and has been taking place with the homes being just ripped off their

foundations. Numerous rescue attempts during - before the night fell. Now they've been using boats with high powered lights to search every home.

They're not even sure how many maybe missing or who still may be trapped in these homes. So again, it's the middle of the night and they're going to

be working on this.

This has been a problem for the last several months. You go back to the beginning of June, we had areas in Japan that had their all-time wettest

month in the history of record keeping. Just a week and a half ago we had cities that broke their one hour rainfall totals in history.

Well in the last 36 hours a number of areas after our tropical storm moved in, we started to see 24 hour rainfall totals. The top 10, 6 of them were

broken in the last day.

[15:10:09] This is the frontal system that's been hanging around for a long time and then you toss in a tropical system. Look at how active the

western pacific has been. It's El Nino and we've got the warm water, we're seeing stronger storms and longer tracks and they've been hit by several

systems.

This yellow one, that's tropical storm and that is Etau. So as it moved it and it converged with the frontal system and enhanced the rain. But here's

what we're looking at now; even though it's going to get better our problem has really been about 50km northeast of Tokyo. And you can see the NASA

images that will show just how active that front has been. And then when you toss in your tropical system it really enhanced the rainfall.

The problem is now moving east. So even though it's going to get better where we've had the flood problems, it is now Sendai that has the problems

with the heavier amounts of rain.

The totals Hala have been incredible. You got over a half meter of rainfall in just 24 hours. But this is where Sendai is and this is where

the 200,000 have now been evacuated. But, it's the rainiest month of the year in September and we still have a good tropical season in the weeks

ahead unfortunately.

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GORANI: Thanks very much Tom Sater. A lot more to come on the program. Israel's Prime Minster takes his case against the Iran nuclear deal all the

way to London.

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GORANI: As his British counterpart makes a public appeal in support of the agreement. Not on the same page. Plus one moment this former tennis star

was waiting outside his luxury hotel in New York. The next, police were slamming him into the ground.

We'll look at what happened and why he says its racial profiling. Just ahead.

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GORANI: Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu says he needs help to combat the "tide" of militant Islam in the Middle East.

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GORANI: He met with the British Prime Minister, right here in London, David Cameron today. They were expected to discuss many issues including

the war in Syria, and the Iran nuclear agreement which of course Benjamin Netanyahu bitterly opposes.

Mr. Netanyahu made brief remarks before the talks.

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: The Middle East is the (inaudible) under the twin forces of militant Islam, the militant Suni's

led by ISIS, and the militant Shias led by Iran. And I believe that we can cooperate in practical ways to roll back the (inaudible) militant Islam

both in the (inaudible) and in Africa altogether.

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GORANI: Well, on the very same day he met with Mr. Netanyahu, the British Prime Minister made a new appeal in support of the Iran deal.

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GORANI: The Washington post published an editorial that he wrote together with French President, Francois Hollande and the German Chancellor Angela

Merkel. They say the U.S. congress has a crucial opportunity to show what diplomacy can achieve as it prepares to vote on the Iran agreement. The

leaders say the deal cuts off all roots for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon and has "verifiable" long lasting controls, something Republicans in

the United States disagree with. More on that later.

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GORANI: Now, let's continue to talk about Syrian war, allies, and also enemies of the regime. U.S. officials are keeping a close eye on the

build-up of Russian troops in Syria.

Moscow acknowledges that its arming and training Syrian government forces against the Rebels but denies that its own soldiers are heading for the

frontlines. CNN's Matthew Chance has those details from Moscow.

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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the fighting the Kremlin insists it has no part of. The Russian Foreign Ministry confirms

its troops are in Syria but only to train it says, not to fight.

SERGEY LAVROV, RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: (As translated) Their presence is (inaudible) to deliveries of arms but a Syrian that is taking the brunt

in the fight against terrorism for the Islamic state and other extremists groups.

CHANCE: But there are persistent concerns in the west that Russian involvement goes much further. Fueled in part by images on Syrian

television; one showing a Russian made armored vehicle of a modern type painted in Russian camouflage and not seen in Syria before.

In another scene a Russian voice can be heard shouting orders amid the fighting. It's not proof of Russian involvement in Syrian combat but the

U.S. Secretary of State of course with access to U.S. intelligence reports has called his Russian counterpart twice on the issue in less than a week.

JOHN KIRBY, U.S STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON: He reiterated our concern about these reports of Russian military activities or build-up if you will

in Syria and made very clear our view that if true and if borne out those reports could lead to greater violence.

CHANCE: But it's to curb the violence why Russia says it will continue to equip the Syrian army to help its allies, Bashar al-Assad defeat ISIS the

Kremlin says and to prevent his regime from being changed.

Matthew Chance, CNN, Moscow.

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GORANI: A political shakeup in Northern Ireland. Peter Robinson is stepping aside as the First Minister there.

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GORANI: The leader of the Democratic Unionist Party says all but one of his party's ministers will also leave the regions power sharing and

administration which is teetering on the brink of collapse.

The crisis began when police said they believed members of the Provisional IRA were involved in the murder of a former Republican prisoner last month.

Republican Party Sinn Fein insists the parliament - the paramilitary IRA has gone away. Complicated situation continues there.

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GORANI: In the United States New York City's Police Commissioner has been insisting that race had nothing to do with this.

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GORANI: With the wrongful arrest of a former world number four tennis player, James Blake.

According to the New York Daily News Blake was on his way to the U.S. Open when as many as five police officers tackled him to the ground and

handcuffed him all because one officer mistook him for a suspect he'd once seen in a photograph.

Speaking to the American News Network ABV earlier Blake explained his side of the story.

JAMES BLAKE, RETIRED AMERICAN TENNIS PLAYER: I was held for about 15 minutes and about five or 10 minutes in I admitted I said look officer, I'm

scared so if I say something wrong I'm sorry but I just - I want to know what's going on. I think you have the wrong person. And I had my

credential for the U.S. Open in my back pocket. And I said please, check that you can tell that I'm a former player at the final 8 badge, it means I

did pretty well at the U.S. Open, I'd like to - you know I'd like to clear my name. And just - and I told him that and he wasn't having any of it OK

we'll see, we're running your license we'll figure it out.

I said you're running my license the worst you're going to find is a speeding ticket, you know that's the most trouble I've been in.

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GORANI: James Blake there speaking to ABC and let's look at the wider issues around this arrest now. For that CNN Correspondent, Boris Sanchez

is live in New York.

So Boris, what is the NYPD saying here because James Blake is saying essentially that this was a case potentially of racial profiling.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hala, the NYPD is essentially saying that this was a case of mistaken identity. They say

this was part of an identity fraud investigation outside that hotel trying to bust a ring that was buying cell phones using fraudulent credit cards.

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SANCHEZ: They say that two separate witnesses pointed to Blake signaling that he was somehow involved in the ring and that's when they went after

him.

Blake says that that was unnecessary the way that he was approached. An officer that wasn't wearing a badge, wasn't in uniform and didn't identify

himself tackled him to the ground holding him for about 15 minutes. In a press briefing this morning in New York the NYPD essentially said that this

was totally unnecessary that his detainment was inappropriate and they're investigating that officer that tackled him trying to figure out if the

method by which he tackled him, the force used was appropriate.

[15:30:17] They have yet to interview that officer but right now he's on desk duty. His badge and his gun have been taken away. Again Blake has

implied that race may have something to do with it but as you said the NYPD is claiming race had nothing to do with this. Here's what they said.

WILLIAM BRATTON, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: Race has nothing at all to do with this. If you look at the photograph of the suspect it looks

like the twin brother of Mr. Blake. So let's put that nonsense to rest right now, race has nothing to do with this.

We have a witness who identified Mr. Blake as an individual that he had sold a phone to and had been given a false credit card. The officers acted

on that information, the witness was there and pointed him out.

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SANCHEZ: The experts that we've spoken with have told us that the officers may have had probable cause to go after him considering the two witnesses

and the photograph which you just heard about that indicated he had a likeness, a resemblance to his suspect. However they mention that the

approach may have been a little overblown. That officer of course now being investigated by Internal Affairs at the NYPD.

GORANI: And this was a fraud case? I mean it's a puzzling amount of violence, of strong handed kind of arrest tactics, techniques. Five cops

total holding this guy down for 15 minutes. How do they justify this amount of violence in a fraud case arrest?

SANCHEZ: That's what they're trying to figure out. Blake himself says that he was compliant from the beginning, that he didn't resist in any way.

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SANCHEZ: In fact telling the officers at one point that he was scared. And again he says that they didn't identify themselves. Usually they would

and they were telling him that he was under arrest. Instead he says that an officer simply told him you'll find out what's going on soon enough.

Obviously he was held for 10 to 15 minutes and they didn't necessarily believe him when he told them who he was.

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SANCHEZ: It took a retired cop that was on the scene to recognize him and tell the officers, this is a world famous tennis player, likely not a

suspect in a fraud investigation.

GORANI: And briefly we haven't seen this picture that the NYPD says proves that the suspect and James Blake are practically - look so much alike that

they're like twin brothers. We have not seen that. It has not been produced correct?

SANCHEZ: That is correct. Here's another wrinkle in the case. We're probably not going to see that picture. It was given to the NYPD by an

internet service provider that somehow linked that suspect in the picture to the fraud investigation. However we've since learned from the police

that the person in the picture was totally unrelated to the crime so they say would be inappropriate to show the picture considering that the person

in it is not a suspect and wasn't involved in the crime at all. However the NYPD have said that the man in the picture has a striking resemblance

to Blake so we'll just have to take their word for it.

GORANI: Boris Sanchez in New York, thanks very much for joining us.

SANCHEZ: Thank you.

GORANI: Well CNN has been speaking to some Americans who have lost loved ones to gun violence.

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GORANI: We'll hear what they have to say about gun control coming up next, stay with us.

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GORANI: Here's a look at markets for you and the Dow is up 50 points. Let's take a look at the NASAQ and the S&P before moving on to Europe. And

here we are also a positive day across the board there.

European markets and here are the main European indices and they were all down today with the Paris CAC 40 losing almost one and a half percent on

the day.

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GORANI: In the United States activists have taken to Capitol Hill to demand action on gun control. The group that has garnered support using

the hashtag whatever it takes is using Congress' first week back from summer recess to push for a tightening of gun legislation.

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GORANI: Some of those who attended the rally were survivors of gun attacks as well. One of the speakers at that rally in Washington was Andy Parker,

his daughter Alison was a journalist at a local T.V. station in Virginia, she of course you'll remember we reported on this tragic and shocking

story.

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GORANI: She was killed last month live on television along with her cameraman Adam Ward.

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GORANI: Well that wasn't the only multiple shooting incident in the United States this year, far from it. Five U.S. servicemen were killed when a

gunman opened fire at two military centers in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And in June nine people were shot dead in a horrific killing inside a church in

Charleston South Carolina. Historically black church.

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GORANI: CNN's Brooke Baldwin has been speaking with survivors and family members who have been personally affected by gun violence. One of those

she spoke to was Sharon Risher who lost her mother and two cousins. Listen to this emotional exchange.

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In that Charleston church you lost your mother.

SHARON RISHER, RELATIVE OF GUN VICTIM: Yes.

BALDWIN: And two cousins.

RISHER: Yes, I was at work when my nephew called and said auntie there was a shooting at the church. And I said what church? And he said granny's

church.

BALDWIN: When you heard about what happened at that church in Charleston, Lucy, what was the first thing you did?

LUCY McBETH, RELATIVE OF GUN VICTIM: I was weeping, I weeped literally on my knees for a good hour and a half two hours, because I felt like the last

bastion of safety .

BALDWIN: . is a church

MCBETH: is a church. The next day when I was asked you know what are you going to do? Do you want to go to Charleston? I was like yes, I need to

go to Charleston. Because I know firsthand what those people are feeling and I wanted to go there and I wanted to pray for them and I wanted to

offer them the very same support that I know those family members in that charge prayed for me and my family when Jordan was murdered.

BALDWIN: How did you meet Sharon?

RISHER: I received a bag full of cards and I was going through things and I came upon this envelope that had the address and then they had my name

written on the side. So my curiosity says open this and I open it and here is a two page letter from Lucy. She left me her phone number and I didn't

think about sending an email, I jumped on the phone. And we started to cry, and it just seems like our souls came together in a commonality that I

can't even explain.

As far as the question of peace, it will only be three months so I am raw, I am new to this cause. Peace will come.

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GORANI: There you have it a hope for the future peace will come. Thousands and thousands of Americans of course are killed in the United

States as a result of gun violence. These just a few examples from the last year as this conversation comes, as you saw it there in Washington

D.C., a national conversation on what needs to be done.

And a lot more on the World Right Now coming up.

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GORANI: A German couple offers a warm welcome to refugees. We'll show you the creative way they're matching asylum seekers with home owners.

And later his insults are making headlines once again but it seems nothing can dent Donald Trump's rise and rise in the polls.

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[15:32:00] GORANI: Welcome back. A look at your top stories. Austria's railway company says congestion caused by a mass influx of migrants is

forcing it to suspend trains to and from Hungary.

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GORANI: Traffic is suspended until further notice and no tickets to Hungary are being sold.

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GORANI: Japan is ordering the evacuation of more than 200,000 people as flood waters there keep rising.

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GORANI: They've already killed at least one individual. The Kyoto News Agency is reporting that a woman died in her home after it was hit by a

landslide. Rescues have been going on throughout the night.

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GORANI: The leaders of Britain, France and Germany are pressing their case for the Iran nuclear deal.

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GORANI: They wrote a joint editorial in the Washington Post today saying that the U.S. Congress has a crucial opportunity to show what diplomacy can

achieve as it prepares to vote on the deal. The leaders say it cuts off all roots for Iran to develop a weapon.

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GORANI: Scientists say they've made an unprecedented discovery. Inside a cave in South Africa they have recovered fossils from a new species of our

own human ancestry.

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GORANI: A human ancestor of ours. It was named Homo Naledi, and there are signs that it was able to bury its dead, something scientists had thought

was limited to humans.

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GORANI: The civil war in Syria is helping to fuel the refugee crisis in Europe. Millions of Syrians are seeking shelter in other countries.

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GORANI: The majority have settled in Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and also some in Iraq and Egypt.

More than 4 million Syrians are now in those countries with almost twice as many displaced inside Syria. There are also some 350,000 Syrians seeking

asylum in Europe.

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GORANI: Our Becky Anderson spoke exclusively to Jordan's Queen Rania about her own country's dealing with those refugees.

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QUEEN RANIA, JORDAN: We are talking about numbers exceeding 350,000 refugees going into Europe and although that seems like a very large number

compared to the 4 million refugees that are now in Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq, it's only a small percentage of overall number of Syrians trying

to seek safety.

We need to remind the Europeans that these people are not coming to your country by choice. And I -- actually I hear that this crisis is being

referred to as a migrant crisis. They're not migrants. A migrant is somebody who chooses to go to another country because they're looking for a

better job or education or to reunite their family. They can choose to go back to their own country and know that they have the protection of their

government.

Whereas refugees are literally running for their lives. They're running away from a well-founded fear of persecution. And so if we just remember

that.

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GORANI: Powerful images from the refugee crisis have moved people to act around the world.

American Garrett McManus traveled from San Francisco all the way to Munich just so he could hand out candy and gum to children coming of a train. He

captured an emotional reunion between father and child for CNN iReport.

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[15:35:21] GORANI: (Ali) and he was waiting for his family at the station, they didn't speak much English so McManus never learned where they

were from. A universal language though a child running to her father. You don't need much language there or many words to be spoken.

McManus tells CNN that the world needs to see the emotion and relate to the joy of just feeling safe.

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GORANI: A beautiful moment captured by a stranger. A couple in Berlin is also doing what they can to help.

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GORANI: They've started a service called refugees welcome. It matches up asylum seekers with home owners.

Jonas Kakosche joins me now from Berlin.

Jonas let's talk first about this service. How does it work?

JONAS KAKOSCHE, CO-FOUNDER "REFUGEES WELCOME": It works like a real easy website I would say like a real normal web service so you go on our domain

like (inaudible) common in German and refugees(inaudible) welcome.net.

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KAKOSCHE: And then you register there your spare room which you can offer and we can just get the data into our database and then we look for someone

who can fit to your situation.

GORANI: Alright. So you - how many have you matched so far? How many refugees with homes have you been able to match so far?

KAKOSCHE: So far in Germany we match 90 persons, 90 refugees to flat shares. And our sister organization in Austria which is existing since

January this year matched about 55 persons.

GORANI: And I understand you were absolutely overwhelmed just a few weeks ago, correct? I mean that you were not able to keep up with the demand?

KAKOSCHE: Sorry?

GORANI: Were you - I understand that a few weeks ago there was so much demand that it was overwhelming for your website.

KAKOSCHE: Yes, it was kind of overwhelming the whole time I would say. So we started last year in November and since the day we started we had much

big press impact and because of this we had many, many registration of refugees, of people wanting to offer a spare room. So at the moment we are

trying to build up a structure of the team and to get back to all these registrations.

GORANI: And you have a personal experience. You welcomed a refugee for about half a year, and we have a picture of you - yes we have a picture of

you and him and also your partner in this website. Tell us about your personal experience with this.

KAKOSCHE: So this was totally to start up the project because Mareike who's also in the picture, the co-founder and me, we decided because we had

a spare room for six months because Mareike decided to go for a job to (Tahoe) for these six months and then we had a spare room and decided OK,

now it's the point for us that we can be active and become active in all this refugees topic what we were interested before in. So we saw OK, this

is an opportunity for us to do this then we only had the problem of financing and we just asked friends and families via email if they want to

support us and this was so easy to get the rent. So it takes us two weeks to get the whole rent for six months.

And because this was so easy we just were wondering why are we the only ones who are doing this and spread the word and made this platform.

GORANI: Where is he now - where is he now the young man?

KAKOSCHE: His name is Bakary and he's living now in his own little apartment in Berlin still and we are - I don't know we are friends now and

meeting each other like sometimes a week and just hanging out with each other and yes..

GORANI: All right, Jonas Kakosche. Remind the address for your website, the actual name of it.

KAKOSCHE: It's refugees-welcome.net.

GORANI: All right, thanks again, Jonas Kakosche, for joining us. He's in Berlin.

KAKOSCHE: See you.

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GORANI: All right. In the French town of Calais, thousands of migrants continue to live in that makeshift camp known as the jungle.

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GORANI: Photographer Amanda Nuro visited after sunset and captured a side of the camp you might not have seen before.

This makeshift shop for instance sells hand rolled cigarettes. Nuro says they are around a dollar for ten. There are bars too and this one

Eritreans play cards and drink beer.

And this man is selling Samosas. There are many of these food stores in the Calais jungle. The people who live here often sit around campfires at

night or play football if they can find lights.

Not a nice place to live I've got to say we were there a few weeks ago. But people are just having to put up with what they need to put up with.

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GORANI: Many of those migrants and refugees are hoping to reach here, where we are, England. But once they do they're faced with a dim reality

often very different what they'd dreamed off.

CNN's Sherisse Pham has the story of one Syrian refugee who after a long time finally made it to the U.K.

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SHERISSE PHAM, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: His journey to Europe took four months and cost thousands of dollars but he finally made it.

[15:40:03] (MILAD), SYRIAN REFUGEE: I'm incredibly lucky. I'm in U.K. now I'm in a safe place. I can start to build something for my life.

PHAM: Milad has asked that we not use his real name because he fears the family he left behind in Syria may face reprisals. He snuck into the U.K.

from Belgium late last year, hidden in a smugglers truck. But that was one of the easier parts of his journey. Before that he had traveled from Syria

to Egypt boarding this small wooden boat in Cairo crammed in with about 400 people. They sailed toward Italy for seven days.

(MILAD): You are on the sea and there is not anybody around you and there is nobody to see you. Just the guards who can help you.

PHAM: But there is more hardship ahead. (Milad's) 29 and he's got no family here. He's a trained dentist and he's looking for work with the

help of a job center.

(MILAD): I can't work at a dentist but at least I want to work as an assistant.

PHAM: In the U.K. refugees receive financial support including housing and a job seekers allowance which (Milad) says he's grateful for but he still

worries about his future here.

(MILAD): It's a very difficult thing after you've studied like five years, six years and you worked after that and then you come to the new country to

work like washing dishes or to any other things, it's a very difficult thing.

PHAM: Europe is facing a refugee crisis. Activists say where governments are falling short ordinary citizens are stepping up to help.

SAM BARRATT, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, Avaaz: The public are miles ahead of the politicians on this. We've seen people open up their front doors.

PHAM: After seeing images of Aylan Kurdi this London father wants to welcome refugees into his home.

MARK TANNER, LONDON RESIDENT: The tag that was on the photo was "never let them say England is full."

PHAM: Mark Tanner's son is nearly the same age as little Aylan.

TANNER: The boy looks quite a lot like my little boy. So I could completely empathize with the father. I don't think it's right that

children should be ever dying in such circumstances.

PHAM: Tanner want's to host a Syrian refugee, perhaps an unaccompanied minor or a mother and child. He hopes others will also help carry the

Syrian refugees to a safe and peaceful place.

Sherisse Pham, CNN, London.

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GORANI: Well don't forget you can always weigh in on the stories you see on the program. Go to Facebook.com/halagoraniccn -

facebook.com/halagoranicnn, please let us know what you think of the stories we've covered this evening and just generally speaking we

appreciate your comments.

You're watching the World Right Now. Up next, Donald Trump takes aim at the only woman in the Republican race.

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GORANI: His problem is not with her policies. We'll explain ahead.

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[15:45:05] GORANI: The gloves are really coming off in the Republican race for the White House as Donald Trump continues soaring in the polls.

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GORANI: The frontrunner has increased his lead nationwide to listen to this, 32% according to the latest CNN ORC figures.

Athena Jones has more from Washington.

ATHENA JONES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This morning the Donald still sitting high atop the pack. In the new CNN ORC poll GOP voters say

they think Trump is most likely to win the Republican nomination.

Then Carson surprising some by taking a jab at the GOP frontrunner Wednesday, going after Trump's faith.

BEN CARSON, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: By humility and the fear of the lord our riches, and honor, and life. And that's a very big part of

who I am, I don't get that impression with him, maybe I'm wrong.

JONES: To which Trump shot back on Twitter, "wow I am ahead of the field with Evangelicals and virtually every other group and Ben Carson just took

a swipe at me."

But Carson didn't stop there. Critiquing Trump's immigration policy as well though not mentioning him by name.

CARSON: If anybody can show me how you can actually round up these people who aren't necessarily going to be cooperative and how that's not going to

jam up the court system and cost enormous amounts of money, I'm perfectly happy to listen.

JONES: Trump sticking it to Carson too.

DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He doesn't understand it and he's wrong.

JONES: As Trump's lead grows a controversial new profile of the billionaire hitting the newsstands in this month's issue of Rolling Stone magazine.

The magazine "Trump insulting rival GOP candidate Carly Fiorina while watching her on T.V." Saying "look at that face, would anyone vote for

that?" Fiorina responding on Fox News.

CARLY FIORINA, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I'm not going to spend a single cycle wondering what Donald Trump means but maybe, just

maybe I'm getting under his skin a little bit because I am climbing in the polls.

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GORANI: Well, CNN Political Analyst, Josh Rogan, is following all the jabs flying back and forth, he's joining us from Washington.

So Josh, this latest comment about Carly Fiorina and her face et cetera, I mean he's seen - sorry I should say he has said extremely offensive things

according to many people, especially women and it's done nothing but carry him further in the polls. So what is this going to do?

JOSH ROGAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Right, well I think you've seen a lot of outrage and the Hilary Clinton campaign has been quite to try to

capitalize on these comments because they reinforce the narrative that Trump has this mechanistic side to him.

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ROGAN: Now the Trump people will always say well we're still rising in the polls but it's very possible he's rising in the polls in spite of some of

these gaffs not because of them. And the concern here, and I think you saw this in the Rolling Stone profile is that Trump's greatest asset which is

that he's not politically correct, that he talks off the cuff, that he seems authentic, is also his greatest detriment. Because there's no-one to

say to him hey stop, don't say that extra thing that's going to come off as racist of mechanistic or too controversial. So he doesn't have anyone

telling him when enough is enough.

GORANI: But he's at 32% in the latest CNN ORC Poll. He's widening his lead and he's said outrageous things before. And by the way we're putting

those poll numbers up for our views. Ben Carson is at 19%, we see Jeb Bush at 9% and everyone else in the field trailing far behind.

ROGAN: Yes it seems that the more controversial things he says the more media coverage he gets, the more name recognition he capitalizes on and the

higher his poll number goes. It's what they call a virtuous or some would say a vicious cycle because it self-reinforces.

You know the question really for political professionals here in Washington is is Trump doing the things on the other side of the equation to build the

national campaign that can capitalize on those poll numbers?

It's all well and good to have a third of the polls but when it comes time for people to vote in all these states you have to have machines, offices,

pollsters, people gathering signatures, people doing get out the vote. He doesn't have any of that. He's up to 60 staffers which is not a lot

compared to the other candidates.

So now he has the big polls what's he going to do about nobody really knows.

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GORANI: Does the Republican party believe that after having been sort of an entertaining sideshow for a few weeks turning into a genuine contender.

I mean these poll numbers are undeniable, that he might become the nominee.

ROGAN: Yes, I think over the last two or three weeks what you've seen is people from all of the other campaigns change their view and now come along

to the realization that at the very least Trump will be at the top or near the top of the polls until people start voting in December and January.

And that there is a chance, however remote, that he could actually win the nomination.

[15:50:00] That is a wholesale shift from what these people were saying all over Republican Intelligence community only a month ago. So now their

strategies are changing and you're seeing some of the big campaigns take shots at Trump and respond to his shots more aggressively.

There's a lot of money going into the anti-Trump campaign as Trump has mentioned. So we'll have to see how that all plays out. But the bottom

line here is that Trump is here to stay, everybody knows it, it'll still be an uphill climb for him to win the nomination.

GORANI: All right, it's certainly making the race interesting. Quickly let's talk about Hilary Clinton after all she is the presumptive, I mean

certainly the frontrunner in the Democratic field. She alluded to Donald Trump while she was talking to his supporters, let's listen to what she

said.

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HILARY CLINTON, DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE: And there is one particular candidate who just seems to delight in insulting women every

chance he gets. I have to say if he emerges I would love to debate him.

GORANI: So is Hilary Clinton taking a possible Trump candidacy seriously now?

ROGAN: Well for Hilary Clinton it really doesn't matter if Trump is serious or unserious it's all upside for her. She benefits no matter what.

As Trump makes his rampage through the GOP primary he's damaging all of the other candidates that she might be facing. He's doing real damage to Jeb

Bush for example. He's doing real damage now to people like Ben Carson whose poll numbers are rising.

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ROGAN: So for Hilary it's a win-win. She might as well engage Trump. It helps her on the demographics. It helps her on taking steam away from her

other rivals and it gets her into the press. So she has no downside. She might as well just keep pumping up the Trump machine because it's all bad

for the GOP and it's all good for her.

GORANI: All right, Josh Rogan, thanks very much, I appreciate you joining us this evening.

ROGAN: Any time.

GORANI: This is the World Right Now. Coming up.

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A discovery that scientists say "absolutely questions what makes us human." We'll tell you why these fossils are so important. Coming up.

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GORANI: Scientists are calling it an unprecedented discovery that could transform how we understand human evolution.

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GORANI: Fossils of a new species of human relative have been found deep in a cave in South Africa. Some of the bones were unveiled today in

Johannesburg.

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GORANI: The New species has been named Homo Naledi and there are signs that it was able to bury its dead, and that's a behavior that is thought -

was - has been thought to have been limited to humans according to scientists.

David McKenzie explains.

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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Descending into the rising star cave Professor Lee Berger puts a startling new discovery into

perspective.

PROFESSOR LEE BERGER): This is like opening up Tutankhamen's tomb.

MCKENZIE: Berger and his team of scientists say they've uncovered a new species of the human family tree. They call it Homo Naledi.

BERGER: We though we knew how human origins worked.

MCKENZIE: He says what they've found deep underground will shake our understanding of human evolution.

There are miles of tunnels underground here and sometimes it's the tightest (inaudible). They had to recruit what they called underground astronauts

to get in and make the discoveries.

[15:55:11] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He had posted that he was looking for any scientist.

MCKENZIE: Like many others, Lindsey Hunter answered Berger's Facebook ad. The dangerous job mostly fell to scientists who were able to crawl through

the narrow passages.

What they found was extraordinary. A chamber of more than 1500 fossilized bones coming up with the controversial conclusion that this is a burial

ground and that Homo Naledi could have used fire to light the way.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've just encountered another species that perhaps thought about its own mortality and went to great risk and effort to

dispose of its dead in a deep remote chamber right behind us.

BERGER: It questions what makes us human. It absolutely questions what makes us human and I don't think we know any more.

MCKENZIE: It's extraordinarily human like.

BERGER: It is in part superficially short fingers, long thumb.

MCKENZIE: Homo Naledi is not human but at times comes close. The original fossils are a strange mosaic of ancient and surprisingly modern, a brain no

bigger than an orange, but feet almost identical to ours.

And every one of these tells a story.

BERGER: Every one of them is a mystery to science.

MCKENZIE: And leaves many unanswered questions. They haven't been able to date the fossils yet so Homo Naledi may have lived tens of thousands of

years ago or even millions.

BERGER: This was right under our nose. And we didn't see it. What else is out there?

MCKENZIE: Perhaps the very key to unlocking the story of humankind.

David McKenzie, CNN, Rising Star Caves, South Africa.

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GORANI: Always nice to meet a distant relative. This has been The World Right Now, I'm Hala Gorani, thanks for watching. Quest Means Business is

next. Stay with CNN.

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