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Aired September 24, 2015 - 03:00 ET
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[03:00:01] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) ERROL BARNETT, CNN NEWSROOM INTERNATIONAL HOST: Shock and despair as
another mosque bombing in the Yemeni capital kills scores of people.
ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN NEWSROOM INTERNATIONAL HOST: The Pope takes Washington by storm with a focus on poverty, immigration, and climate change. His next stop, Congress.
BARETT: And breakthrough after decade of conflict. The Colombian government and FARC rebels move closer to an historic peace deal.
CHURCH: Hello and welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the word. I'm Rosemary Church.
BARNETT: I'm Errol Barnett. Your last hour of the day with both of us. This is CNN Newsroom.
CHURCH: And we begin with breaking news out of Yemen. A bombing at a crowded mosque in the capital has killed at least 29 people and injured dozens. Officials say the death toll could rise.
BARNETT: This attack happened in Sanaa, just as worshippers attended prayers for the Eid Muslim holiday. The mosque serves both Sunni and Shia worshippers. Now, at this stage, no one has claimed responsibility.
CHURCH: Now, Hakim Almasmari, editor-in-chief of the Yemen Post, has more details and some insight into the situation right now in Yemen.
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HAKIM ALMASMARI, YEMEN POST EDITOR-IN-CHIEF: Shows that Yemen is very fragile security wise. And such attacks will continue because of the lawless situation happening right now in Yemen - government in the south, government in the north, a war happening nationwide. This is the result where civilians are paying a price. The mosque was not a majority Shiite mosque or Houthi mosque. The mosque was a mixed mosque, with both Sunni and Houthi. So the last two attacks, the mosque has not been only one Houthi mosque or the Shiite mosque. They're a mixture of general Sunni and Houthi mosque. This is what driving Yemenis crazy because these mosques are not supposed to be targeted, and Muslims killing Muslims just dramatic and sad for this war torn country. (END VIDEO CLIP)
CHURCH: Hakim Almasmari talked to me a short time ago. Well, Pope Francis wasting no time raising politically sensitive issues, including climate change, immigration, and marriage during his visit to the United States. His views were made clear on Wednesday, his first full day in the U.S., when he met with President Obama at the White House.
BARNETT: And this may be a sign of what is to come, when the Pope addresses a joint meeting of Congress in a few hours from now. CNN's Jim Acosta has more from Washington.
JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: His presence could be felt the moment he arrived, as cheers erupted across the nation's capital, when the tiny Fiat carrying Pope Francis pulled up to the White House. Before a sea of the faithful assembled on South Lawn, the Pope joined President Obama to deliver a message that seemed so coordinated, it could have come from political running mates.
BARACK OBAMA, U.S. PRESIDENT: You remind us that the Lord's most powerful message is mercy.
ACOSTA: On immigration, President Obama called for compassion.
OBAMA: That means welcoming the stranger with empathy, and a truly open heart.
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OBAMA: From the refugee who flees war torn lands. To the immigrant, who leaves home in search of a better life.
ACOSTA: And so did the Pope, speaking in carefully practiced English. So Americans could hear from him directly.
POPE FRANCIS: As the son of an immigrant family, I am happy to be a guest in this country, which was largely built by such families.
ACOSTA: Pope Francis pleaded with the world's leaders to protect the environment, describing the planet as our common home.
BARNETT: Alright, we need to break away from that report, to bring you what is happening live in Berlin right now. As you see on your screens, German chancellor Angela Merkel is addressing parliament. Now we expect that she will talk about migrant and refugee crisis in Europe, and of course, how to distribute funding. For the moment, let's just listen in, as to what she's saying.
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[03:04:50] TRANSLATOR: Refugee camps, we need to accelerate the asylum processing and also integrate those who are really in need of protection. Globally and on a European level, we need to agree to this and then, we are able to successfully master this challenge. It is in this spirit that the German government together with the federal office, local authorities, and the whole community to tackle this task as a national task, and also globally. Last Tuesday, we, together with the state premieres, have agreed to improvements. Today, I hope we will also agree to more decisions especially with regard to the financial support by the federal office and local authorities.
I would really like to thank all of these helpers and volunteers and also those officers, police officers, civil servants, relief organizations, and all of them. I would really like to thank them, because they do everything possible in order for us to have a smooth operation in difficult circumstances. This also applies to others with regard to border control that needs to be checked. We need to manage acute issues, but also long term issues, which means the integration of people who wish to be with us long term. This includes that we expect from them to respect our rules according to our constitution, and to integrate on the basis of our society. And that they also prepared to learn German and master this language.
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TRANSLATOR: Those who were fleeing from crisis and war regions and needs help, it is important that we accelerate asylum procedures. Especially in those cases where people come to us and they don't come from crisis and war regions, we need to make sure that we process them more efficiently and quicker.
On a national level, we need to do a lot. But also on the European level. Humanity, tolerance, responsibility, solidarity do connect us in Europe. They're the basis for common acting within the European Union. The way we deal with the crisis at the moment will shape us long term. I want Europe to accept this test within Europe. The European Union.
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TRANSLATOR: The European Union -- the European Union is a community of shared values, a community of responsibility, and these need to be implemented in practical terms. Minimum standard have to be respected with regard to accommodating refugees, and the asylum seekers process must be abided by. The minimum standards are not abided by everywhere, we also need to have better border controls at external borders, and we need to take care of those who are in need of protection. Transit countries, other countries need to be integrated. We need to combat human trafficking, and what will be a challenge is also the combating of the causes for refugees, while they flee. Middle Eastern countries need also to contribute, and we of course know about the problem situations in the south.
[03:10:05] TRANSLATOR: We need to have the right approaches. And on this basis, we need to make sure that we get quick results. We already have made some progress. We have the basis of a list of secure countries, 120,000 refugees are going to be distributed and we have decided on this yesterday. There was an urgent meeting of the ministers and we have had a declaration. The European parliament takes on responsibility. And I would like to thank everybody for that. A fair distribution can only work if we have a consequent registration
at the external borders and register those in need of protection. This need to be made sure in Greece, and Italy, we will have to implement this. I am totally convinced that Europe will not just be able to do this, distribution, but also have a -- a, will also need a lasting distribution system. And the German government agrees to what the European Union has decided. We are on the right way, but we have not reached the end yet. The first step required a lot of work and I would look to thank our Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere, for all of the work he has done.
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BARNETT: German Chancellor Angela Merkel there, at a very important moment for her and for Germany, a nation which has taken the lead in spearheading a mechanism to accept and process tens of thousands of migrant refugees that have spilled into the country this year. She thanked the interior minister as you just heard, and also aid agencies and local officials who had done the processing and logistical work needed, to really assimilate and process migrants into society. She made a note there to say, that integration will require that these new migrants respect the rules of the country, that people learn German. But she -- she made a point there to also say that this is not over just yet. There is a lot of work still to be done.
CHURCH: Yeah, and she pointed out that -- that Europe must accept this test. She said the European Union is a union, a community of shared value that needs to step up. And there is. A lot of that was a bit of a jab at some of the Eastern European countries of course saying, because they have rejected this situation.
Let's go to Atika Shubert, who is in Berlin. She's been listening in to this address by Angela Merkel. So, Atika, talk to us about your overall feel, when you listen to what she is saying there, particularly that comment she made about the European Union, being a community, and having to accept this test.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Exactly. What she's doing is making her case, not only to the German people really, but across the E.U., saying that there needs to be a comprehensive plan for dealing with the waves of refugees that are coming here, because it's not going to stop. So what she's offering is essential an extension of what Germany has done, which is accepting refugees, but also distributing them across the different states here.
And so the quota system that's being applied now to the E.U. is an extension of what Germany has done internally. But in addition to that, she also pointed out, it's not something about accepting refugees, it's about screening them, registering them, not just in one place, accepting them, for example at refugee camps in Lebanon, or Jordan, or Turkey, but also needing registration centers in Greece, Italy, Hungary, and also within countries like Germany themselves. So it is a much more comprehensive plan that she put out. Of course, all of this costs money, and that's the other part of the speech. Is that She's basically going to outline, how much it's all going to cost Germany, and whether or not extra money is needed. Remember that a lot of the states here that have taken on the burden of refugees, such as the area around Munich, Bavaria. Have said, they need $3 billion extra dollars, a lot of money.
[03:15:01] BARNETT: She also, Atika, referenced addressing this crisis at its core. We know the E.U. approved $1 billion dollars in aid, for the Middle Eastern nations that have bordered Syria and Iraq, who of course are absorbing refugees as well. What though, when you say this isn't just a message for domestic consumption, what should be the takeaway nations like Hungary, Romania, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, those nations which voted against accepting any migrants against a quota system. Some of the rhetoric leaders of these nations suggest they want to take it to the European court. You know, what is she hoping that these nations take away from this message?
SHUBERT: There is a very deep divide now, between eastern countries of Europe and the west, particularly Hungary. Hungary sees this in the words of the Hungarian Prime Minister yesterday as moral imperialism. That's what he described, as what Germany is doing to states like Hungary. The way Merkel sees it, however, as she said in her speech is an issue of shared values of Europe. That to be part of the European community means not only accepting refugees, but finding humane ways to bring them over, and to register them, and to allow them to travel to the countries they needed and want to get to. There is this divide.
Now, Hungary is on the frontier of this issue. Is the one dealing with the waves of people coming across initially, and that's why it feels under such pressure. Germany is saying there has to be a better way than razor wire, tear gas, and rubber bullets to keep -- to keep refugees away.
BARNETT: Yeah, it is fascinating a crisis of not seen since world war two, and we'll be watching unfold.
CHURCH: Indeed. It's a long way for being brought to any sort of conclusion. CNN International Correspondent Atika Shubert covering the story from Berlin. Many thanks to you.
BARNETT: Now after 50years of war, a handshake could bring peace to Columbia. Next, we'll explain what Pope Francis has to do with this.
CHURCH: Donald Trump is kissing babies on the campaign trail in South Carolina. But the Republican Presidential Candidate is not showing any love for Fox news. We'll explain when we come back.
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PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN WEATHER WATCH: I'm Meteorologist Pedram Javaheri. Thank you for watching CNN. This is Weather Watch. And here's the forecast across the America right now, where we start you off with the northwestern corner of the continent. Temperatures around Vancouver should make it up to 16 degrees, showers from there stretching along towards Winnipeg. In Atlanta, Georgia, we will introduce some afternoon showers. Gorgeous conditions still in store for New York City and Montreal, enjoy it for that 19 to 27 degrees. Look at the wet pattern, really centered across the central portion of the U.S. with another storm system parked off the southeastern corner of the U.S. The storm system is really what we call a retrograde. Essentially, that means it's moving back against the grain, typically storms like move west to east, just this particular one doing the opposite of the stirring current, where the jet streams have weakened a little bit. So the storm moves back to the west, as it does copious rainfall around the portion of Charleston, and really much of the coastal Carolinas, out toward southern portions of Florida as well.
So we go with the forecast around the Caribbean. Showers across San Juan 31 degrees, Guatemala City, 10 cooler at 21, Chihuahua makes it up to about 31, with scattered thunderstorms. Farther to the south we go, Belem about 32. Manaus cools off a little from the last couple of days, up to around 39 degrees, and the diurnal pattern will be called us. You notice quick development. Thunderstorms in the afternoon hours across northern portions of Brazil, that Pattern going to persist the next couple of days. And into the south, spring here for Taman around 15 degrees.
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[03:21:15] BARNETT: Welcome back, everyone. The FBI has reportedly recovered work-related and personal e-mails, said to have been deleted from Hillary Clinton's private server.
CHURCH: Bloomberg news and The New York Times cite anonymous government officials. Clinton gave the server to investigators last month, after she turn over printed copies of all work related e-mails. The FBI is looking into how Clinton handled classified information, during her tenure as Secretary of State.
BARNET: And Donald Trump says, he will unveil a detailed tax plan next week with tax cuts for the middle-class, and increases for hedge fund managers.
CHURCH: On Wednesday, he was in attack mode on the campaign trail in South Carolina. Sunlen Serfaty reports.
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SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Republican front-runner Donald Trump back on offense, going after his Republican and Democratic rivals alike.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hillary who has become very shrill, you know the word shrill? Marco Rubio as an example, he's has no money, zero. Now, I think that's OK, it's fine, maybe it's good politically, to say you owe money, because you over borrowed your credit cards.
SERFATY: Mocking his opponents for their appearance at last week's debate.
TRUMP: In a room that was 100 degrees, that room was hot. I mean, poor Chris Christie. No. It's true! It was an amazing thing. I was like, a piece of water. Rubio never seen a young guy sweat that much. Huckabee, nice guy. He was seriously hot. He was soaking wet. I grabbed him around his back. I said good job. It was soaking wet. I immediately -- he was drenched.
SERFATY: Trump also going on a two-day Twitter tear against Fox News, declaring he is boycotting the network for treating me very unfairly. And calling Megyn Kelly a lightweight and highly overrated. Fox News said Trump announced his boycott after Fox canceled his interview, with host Bill O'Reilly scheduled for Thursday, and directing fire at Senator Rubio, saying he has the worst voting record in the senate.
But in an appearance with Stephen Colbert, still refusing to answer the question, whether he believes President Obama was born in the U.S.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, TALK SHOW HOST: Right there, right there. Come on.
TRUMP: You want to know, I don't talk about it anymore.
SERFATY: This as Ben Carson can't change the subject away from his controversial comments, that a U.S. President shouldn't be a Muslim.
BEN CARSON, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Anybody, and that include any religion, who lives according to American values and principles, and is willing to put our Constitution above their religious ideology, is acceptable to me.
SERFATY: Claiming the fallout led to a big boost in donations.
CARSON: I mean the money has been coming in so fast. It's hard to even keep up with this.
SERFATY: Meanwhile, Carly Fiorina now polling at second place says she thinks Trump's grumbling is a sign he is getting nervous.
CARLY FIORINA, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Maybe I am getting under his skin.
SERFATY: And riding the post-debate wave in South Carolina, Fiorina says she sees that momentum turning into something tangible.
FIORINA: We're seeing a big up-tick in our crowds, and fund-raising and interest and support, and obviously, that's really gratifying.
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SERFATY: And the Fiorina campaign would not divulge how much interest they're seeing, how much money they're seeing, in hard numbers, only saying that they're seeing a significant up-tick across the board. Sunlen Serfaty, CNN, Rock Hill, South Carolina.
CHURCH: Colombia's government is taking a major step toward ending its 50 year war with leftist rebel. The two sides signed a peace commitment Wednesday in Havana, Cuba, aimed at reaching a final deal within six months. [03:25:05] BARNETT: Now, the rebels have been fighting the government
since the 60's in a conflict that killed more than 200,000 people and forced millions from their homes.
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TRANSLATOR: We have reached an agreement on the basis of a judicial plan, which allows me to say with conviction, that we will achieve maximum possible justice for the victims, the most satisfaction possible of their rights. We have agreed to create special tribunals for peace. That will guarantee the crimes committed during the conflict, especially the most serious and significant, will have no impunity.
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BARNETT: Pope Francis may be at least partly responsible for the Colombian peace deal. CNN's Juan Carlos Lopez told us a short while ago the Pope made an appeal to end the fighting while he was in Cuba this past weekend. Take a listen.
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JUAN CARLO LOPEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In Havana, he made a call for Colombians to advance in the peace process, and he said the process would not accept another failure. There were hopes by Colombians, and the FARC and the Cubans for this announcement to be made while the Pope was here. That wasn't possible. Why is it significant? Because both the FARC and Colombian government have reached agreement on the most contentious points. And that's what going to happen with the victim, what's going to happen to those who committed crimes? And what does the future hold? There's an expectation many would go to jail. And this contemplates that possibility but it's spells it out in different ways.
Now, it's agreement that would be signed in six months, but now there's a concrete date, that's also significant. And also the announcement by FARC that 60 days after they sign an agreement, which would be March 23rd, 2016, that would be the cut-off date, 60 days after, they would start disarming and become a political party. There still a lot of work to be done. But for Colombians to see President Juan Manuel Santos, who belongs to one of the most traditional and politically involved families in the country, in the same stage with the leader of FARC, who has been fighting government for 50 years, joined by Raul Castro, this is a very significant issue. A lot of people are happy, a lot of people are not. But it is a process that is ongoing.
And by the way, President Santos, and the FARC leader, reiterated, Colombians have to go and vote and decide if they accept this agreement or not. But it's been over five decades of war, and as you mentioned over 200,000 victims.
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BARNETT: Now, earlier, I spoke with Virginia Bouvier from the U.S. Institute of Peace. She was telling me, not everyone in Colombia who has been a victim can expect compensation. But the most serious criminals will be punished. Take a listen.
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VIRGINIA BOUVIER, U.S. INSTITUTE OF PEACE: Times have changed. The international environment really does not allow for amnesties, broad based amnesties or pardons to take place for broad violations of human rights, for crimes against humanities, the war crimes. And these agreements today, they specify that these kinds of crimes, monumental grave crimes will not be, will not go unpunished. I think this is an advance for everybody. It's an advance for the victims, whose voices will finally be heard, and some justice will prevail.
BARNETT: There are currently estimated a thousand FARC rebels in Colombia. That's down from a peak of about 17,000. The U.S. and E.U. considered FARC a terrorist group.
CHURCH: Well, just ahead here on CNN Newsroom, China's president promises to welcome more foreign investors and underscores his point with a huge Boeing deal. We'll explain when we come back.
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ERROL BARNETT, CNN INTERNATIONAL NEWSROOM ANCHOR: Warm welcome back to those you watching here in the U.S. and all around the world. This is CNN Newsroom, I'm Errol Barnett.
ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL NEWSROOM ANCHOR: And I'm Rosemary Church. Of course, time to check the headlines for you. And a bombing at a mosque in Yemen's capital of Sanaa has killed at least 29 people and injured dozens more. The attack hit the mosque while worshippers were attending prayers for the Eid holiday. No one has claimed responsibility for that bombing. The mosque serves for Sunni and Shia worshippers.
BARNETT: Pope Francis will be the first pontiff in history to address a joint meeting of the United States Congress in a few hours. He starts on Wednesday at numerous events including a White House welcoming ceremony and a mass. This is all part of the six-day tour of the states.
CHURCH: EU leaders have pledged more than a billion dollars in aid to help refugees in the Middle East. The decision came as heads of state gathered in Brussels to discuss the humanitarian crisis in Europe. The money will go to the U.N.'s refugee agency and the world food program.
BARNETT: Chancellor Angela Merkel has just wrapped up an address to the German parliament on the European migrant and refugee crisis. She said the EU plan to relocate 120,000 asylum seekers is a first step, but more needs to be done. And she talked about what she expects from migrants who want to stay in Germany.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR: We need to manage acute issues, but also long term issues. Which means the integration of people who wish to be with us long term. This includes that we expect from them to respect our rules according to our constitution and to integrate on the basis of our society. And that they also prepared to learn German and master this language.
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CHURCH: China's president heads to Washington today, where he will meet President Barack Obama for a working dinner. His focus was business Wednesday as he vowed to ease restrictions on foreign investors. He held a brief closed door meeting with some of the country's top tech executives.
BARNETT: Earlier, Mr. Xi announced a multibillion dollar deal to buy 300 jets from Boeing. And Boeing announced plans to build a finishing facility in China.
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XI JINPING, CHINESE PRESIDENT: There is a Chinese saying, when the main river rises, all the tributaries would be filled. So when China- U.S. relations do fine, the American companies, including Boeing, will be even better place to cooperate with China.
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CHURCH: All right, let's turn now to Kristie Lu Stout who is in Hong Kong to get some more on what has been happening with these meetings. What came of Xi's meeting there with the business and tech executives in Seattle?
[03:35:08] KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN NEWS STREAM ANCHOR: Major pledge that you mentioned, Xi Jinping promised to make it easier for U.S. companies to invest in China. That was a message he delivered to U.S. business leaders at a Paulson Institute Event. And then after that, he went to the Microsoft campus in Washington State where he was greeted by the co-founder of Microsoft Bill Gates, as well as the current CEO Satya Nadella and the host of other top U.S. tech executives including Tim Cook of Apple, including Jeff Bezos of Amazon and Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook. And yes, Facebook is still blocked in China. Also, there is a meeting in number of Chinese top tech execs and companies like Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent. The chairman and CEO of Lenovo were also there. In fact, he was posting on Twitter, updates of the internet policy meeting there in Microsoft and this update saying the technology is pivotal to global economy and U.S.- China ties, open dialogue and deeper cooperation, always great. I should add Twitter is yes, still blocked in China. Also, there is a meeting. They're in Seattle with Lu Wei. Lu Wei is the internet czar of China. He is the man who controls the internet and the great fire wall in China. And he's promoting this cyber sovereignty model of internet governance, saying that China should have the right to determine what comes in and out of its cyber or internet borders. Of course, the internet is going to be the top of the agenda when Mr. Xi meets with Mr. Obama, and that very, very tricky issue of cyber security, back to you.
CHURCH: And it will certainly be interesting to say what comes out of those talks. But last hour, you and I talked about this, this new report that's come out, linking cyber attacks to a Chinese military officer. Talk to us about that. What the new findings were?
STOUT: Yeah, this is a bombshell report that just came out, and what we've learned is this. That U.S. researcher had established a link between a cyber hacking groups called NAICOM to a Chinese military officer in Qiming, China. The cyber attack group is known to use e- mail attachments to bridge and breaking to the computer networks of countries that are competing with China in the South China Sea. Now we heard from that speech, Xi Jinping earlier the week saying that he defends cyber security that the Chinese government would never encourage or take part in such cyber activities. And yet, this is another example, additional proof of what looks like state sponsored cyber attacks, establishing this link between this cyber hacking group and the PLA. So that is definitely going to be brought up. More further for discussion between these two world leaders.
CHURCH: Yeah. Well, it's certainly being interesting to see what impact that has on those discussions and the tone of those talks as well. Christie Lu Stout, joining us live, from Hong Kong, always a pleasure to talk with you. And we have complete coverage of Mr. Xi's trip on that website. You can learn more about the complicated relationship between Beijing and Washington. And of course, find the latest headlines about China. That's all of cnn.com/china.
BARNETT: Still to come here on CNN Newsroom, a new report reveals just who may be profiting from the illegal ivory trade, decimating Africa's elephant population, a live interview, coming up next.
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BARNETT: Our next story examines the illegal ivory trade. Devastating Africa's elephant population, consider this, 35 years ago, more than a million elephants roamed the continent. Well now, population is estimated to be less than half, as low as 419,000.
CHURCH: A new report by a think-tank in shedding light on which groups maybe largely profiting from the illegal ivory trade, tied to the poaching crisis in East Africa. It also cites which groups may be serving as a distraction from the real threat.
BARNETT: For more on this, we can discuss everything with Cathy Haenlein in London. She is a research analyst for Royal United Services Institute and it's the think tank to publish this report which she co-wrote. Thank you so much for joining us today, Cathy. I want to talk about this report and look through it, and it claims that terror groups like Al Shabaab in the horn of Africa. They are actually not funding themselves to a large degree through the ivory trade and that's despite the widely believed perception that they are. Explain your research that discovered this.
CATHY HAENLEIN, RESEARCH ANALYST, ROYAL UNITED SERVICES INSTITUTE: Sure. So the research is the first of its kind to really look into the strength of the links between Al Shabaab and the illegal ivory trade. The idea that it does a very strong connection has been very widely propagated in the mainstream, mainstream news media, by a number of conservation NGO's and by certain politicians. The evidence underpinning these links, though, is extremely limited. So our study sought to actually investigate the strength of these links. It found that the evidence to suggest, there are very large flows of ivory moving through Al Shabaab held territory in Somalia is extremely weak. And that we would do far better to focus on limited resources on the groups that are known to drive the trade in East Africa. And these are very sophisticated and networked criminal groups and corrupt actors at the very low anti levels in all of the countries involved in the region.
BARNETT: And one thing your report found is that claims that Al Shabaab was funding itself through the ivory trade were coming from unnamed, anonymous sources. And they just really didn't hold up. So where then is their money coming from? Where do they get most of their funding?
HAENLEIN: Well, Al Shabaab has proved a very sophisticated organization with very adaptive and flexible fund-raising strategy. So it's -- it has increasingly moved toward more localized sources of funding, as its traditional revenue sources have come under pressure from growing international efforts to intercept these, these, sources. So, we are seeing growing pressure on flows of income from the Diaspora. Increasingly, Al Shabaab is focused on taxation of the local population in areas it controls, and also trade-based financing. So looking particularly at how it can gain revenue from the charcoal trade and from the importation of other commodities including sugar, which is then smuggled into Kenya. And it's here, that our efforts really need to focus if we are going to make, make an impact...
BARNETT: right.
HAENLEIN: On restricting the financing of Al Shabaab.
BARNETT: And your report is critical of African governments along the horn of Africa, that you say, either aren't doing enough, aren't willing to admit that it is more complicated than it is, and you in fact say some officials are corrupt as it comes to dealing with this. Which governments, in your view, aren't doing enough to look at true sources of funding?
[03:45:00] HAENLEIN: Well, it's -- I mean, it's really a problem that affects all of the source countries where ivory is coming from. So in our study, we focused exclusively on East Africa. Our reports, the majority of the research that went into our reports were conducted in Kenya. The Kenyan government has expressed a concern about the Al Shabaab link, but it -- it, the evidence shows that the organized crime groups operating in the region and beyond are where our attention should really focus.
BARNETT: All right. I appreciate you enlightening us. That is Cathy Haenlein, research analyst for Royal United Services Institute. Thanks for chatting with us this morning.
HAENLEIN: Thanks a lot.
CHURCH: And coming up next here on CNN Newsroom, this may look like a chaotic hovel, but it is actually a difficult rugby play. We will explain after the break.
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PATRICK SNELL, SPORT ANCHOR: Hi, there. I'm Patrick Snell with your CNN World Sport Headlines. I know it's a traumatic night in European football, Real Madrid returning to the top of La Liga when in 2-1 at Bilbao. But the big story coming, as Celto Vigo who trash Barcelona, 4-1, it was the reigning European and league champion, the heaviest league defeat since 2008. And Head Coach Luis Enrique worst losses (inaudible). To England, a north London derby taking place in the League Cup between Tottenham and Arsenal with (inaudible) is emerging victorious, 2-1. Both goals scored by the French man Mathieu Flamini. After break, the Rugby World Cup returning on Wednesday, but the fairytale story just couldn't last with Japan. The cherry blossoms that shocked South Africans last weekend, we're both firmly back down to earth by a ruthless Scotland do thrashed Japan, 45-10, scoring five tries in the process, but one of the tournament favorites. Australia, making a stuttering starts to their campaign, failing to earn a bonus point in their, 28 points, 13 victory against Fijians. Now the finale of the PGA in a golf season coming to a head in Atlanta with the FedExCup, the world number Jason Day, as being on the tag with the Australian saying the word. And about he is doing this, preparing him to when tournaments is a blueprint. That's really working. Day is paired with Jordan Spieth, for at least the first two round there, here in Atlanta.
BARNET: Thank you so much for joining us.
SNELL: You are bang up to date. That is a look at your global sports headlines, I'm Patrick Snell.
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CHURCH: The fairytale is over for Japan in the Rugby World Cup. They pulled off an amazing win against two time champion, South Africa Saturday, but they were no match for Scotland.
BARNETT: That's right. Japan came in to the match, 11th in the world rankings, but the Scots, he lost play the game September 5th, beat Japan, 45 to 10, to Kingsholm stadium.
[03:50:13] CHURCH: Die hard rugby fans call the scrum the most important part of the game, but to most people, well, it just looks like a huge pile of bodies pushing each author round.
BARNETT: Because I know what it is, but CNN explains why this play is considered one of the most technically difficult parts of the sport.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The scrum is one of most recognizable and technical aspects of rugby unit. It's a method of restarting play. The eight players from each side bind together into a unit, trying to outmuscle and outpower the opposition. The plays who take part are known as the forwards or the pack. They make up three distinct sections of the scrum. The front row, two props on each side and a hooker in the middle, they probably have the most important role, anchoring the front and colliding with the opposition. It's often a brutal job. The second row, almost always the tallest players on the team and known as the engine room because of the drive and strength they must provide. Finally, the back row, two flankers on each side and a number eight at the back, they have several jobs including power, stability and link-up play.
When instructed by the referee, the two packs engage and push against each other. The ball is inserted by a player from one team, and the hooker from the same side, hooks it back to the number eight. If everything works according to plan, the ball is then released into open play and that team retains possession. The team that puts the ball in usually keeps hold of possession, but if the opposition overpowers the scrum with a huge shove, the referee can penalize and then decide an award play to the other team. The scrum is a battle of power. A combination of brute strength coupled with technique and team work. They may not win you any point, but scrums offer teams the chance to do something even more important, to physically dominate and intimidate the opposition. Win the battle of the scrum and you usually win the game.
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BARNETT: All right. Now you know.
CHURCH: Thank you...
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CHURCH: Very good to have that background.
BARNETT: (inaudible) there. We want to end with some amazing video.
CHURCH: Yeah.
BARNETT: A man in Saudi Arabia, narrowly escaped death when a pane of glass fell right next to him, apparently, skimming the side of his head.
CHURCH: Look at this. You can see the man stop to check something on the bottom of his shoe, moments before, then bam.
BARNETT: Oh, my goodness.
CHURCH: The glass falls from above. Lucky he stopped.
BARNETT: Knocks him over. The man -- look at this.
CHURCH: Wow.
BARNETT: He survived. And then he can be seen walking away afterward. He appears to be OK. I would be quite... (LAUGHTER)
BARNET: I would be so mad.
CHURCH: He is in shock, that's...
BARNETT: Extraordinary, lucky to be alive.
CHURCH: Yeah, indeed. Oh, let's check the weather. And there is some bad weather in store for southern Europe.
BARNETT: Our meteorologist Derek Van Dam, our first time seeing him today. Hey, Derek...
DEREK VAN DAM, WEATHER ANCHOR AT CNN INTERNATIONAL: Hey.
BARNETT: From the international weather center with details on that.
[03:53:20] DAM: Hi, Rosemary, Errol -- yeah, it's really more past tense. In fact, they've already had a slew of bad weather into southern Europe, including Turkey, the very popular tourist destination of Bodrum. Look at this, 221 millimeters in the past 24- hours, and that led to scenes like this. You could actually see some of this local footage sent to us, well, it was actually on Instagram, you can see just some results of a flash flood that reached two meters in places. Search and rescue teams had to go out and reach some of the individuals in their stranded vehicles, scary moments for people across that part of the world and it appears that that storm system is slowly dying down. Here it is across the Turkey region. But now we're gonna start to focus our attention on Italy and into the southern Adriatic. This particular storm system, you see rotating across the region, it's bring the possibility of heavy rainfall from Montenegro to the coast of Croatia, as well as southern Greece. Locally, heavy rainfall possible for this region, eventually, moving over portions of Italy as well. Storm system across Italy, becomes less of a concern. And again, we focus our attention towards the southern Adriatic. Here's our possibility of heavy rainfall today, large hail. Even an isolated tornado for the coast of Albania and then to Montenegro, look out for that possibility where you see the darker shading of red. A rainfall forecast accumulation for this region, anywhere between 50 to 100 millimeters. And this is already a saturated environment, so any additional rainfall on top of that could lead to the possibility of localized flooding as well. You can see the storm system just rotating and bound to cross the southern Adriatic. And that will continue to bring unpleasant weather anywhere from Rome to Sarajevo, Zagreb, Croatia, and Southward into the Athens, Greece region. So for all of our vacationers out over that part of the world, unfortunately, it doesn't look to be that pleasant. Errol, Rosemary?
BARNETT: All right.
CHURCH: Good idea.
(CROSSTALK) CHURCH: Thank you. Well, before we go, we want to share one of the more memorable moments from the Pope's day in Washington. A 5-year- old girl was stopped by secret service as she tried to get closer to the Pope. Sophie Cruz got over a security barricade twice in fact. Security surrounded the girl on her second try, but the Pope waved her over.
BARNETT: And then he gave her a kiss on the cheek. She handed him a picture and a note written in Spanish. It read "My friends and I love each other, no matter the color of our skin."
CHURCH: Look at that drawing. Look at that drawing. And reports say the girl fears her parents will be deported. Sophie says she hopes the Pope can bring changes to U.S. immigration laws. That's great. She got through security...
BARNETT: Yeah.
CHURCH: To the Pope.
BARNETT: We share a nice message. That is it for our four-hour anchor marathon.
CHURCH: I'm (inaudible).
BARNETT: Done and dusted. We appreciate you joining us for some of it. I'm Errol Barnett.
CHURCH: I hardly remember my name, I'm Rosemary Church. Early Start is coming out for our viewers in the U.S. for everyone elsewhere, stay tuned for CNN Newsroom. See you next...
BARNETT: Have a great day.
CHURCH: See you next week.
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