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HALA GORANI, HOST: Tonight, was it on purpose?


GORANI: A Russian jet flies into Turkish air space. While there are reports that Russia may be stepping up its ground activities inside Syria.

Then Doctors Without borders is demanding answers. Why was this hospital hit by air strikes, and who is really responsible?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He seemed happy about it. He didn't seem stressed or nervous.

GORANI: She was sitting in the front row of the Oregon classroom where a gunman opened fire. And now she's telling her story to CNN.

Plus, caught up in some angry protests in France. Air France executives have the shirts literally ripped off their backs.


GORANI: Hello everyone, I'm Hala Gorani. We're live at CNN London, thanks for being with us this hour, this is "The World Right Now."


GORANI: Russia says it was a mistake. NATO calls it unacceptable. Those comments after Turkey intercepted a Russian jet violating its air space.


GORANI It all happened during the weekend. A Russian jet was intercepted by two F-16s from the Turkish air force before it ended up eventually flying

into Syria. That news comes as Moscow intensifies air strikes in Syria which began last week. Russia says in just the past 24 hours it has hit

nine ISIS targets. Neighboring Turkey says it spoke with Russia about the air space violation and issued a strong condemnation.

AHMET DAVUTOGLU, TURKISH PRIME MINISTER: (As translated) What we have received from Russia this morning is that this was a mistake and that they

respect Turkey's borders and this will not happen again.

Turkey's rules of engagement apply to all planes, be they Syrian, Russian, or from elsewhere. Turkey's armed forces are very clearly instructed.


GORANI: Well there you have it. Now NATO is also reacting quite strongly to the violation of Turkey's air space saying that Russia's military

actions have reached now a more dangerous level.


JENS STOLTENBERG, NATO SECRETARY GENERAL: I just met with the Foreign Minister of Turkey to discuss the recent military actions of the Russian

Federation in and around Syria including the unacceptable violations of Turkish air space by Russian combat aircraft.

I made clear that NATO remains strongly committed to Turkey's security.


GORANI: The NATO Secretary General there. So what is the word coming out of Russia? Let's head to Moscow where our Matthew Chance has the latest

update. What is - what is exactly Russia saying about how one of its jets ended up flying into Turkish air space?

MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well Hala, it's been quite apologetic actually about the fact that this happened. It's

acknowledged that it took place on Saturday, October 3rd.


CHANCE: It's basically giving assurances that this kind of thing won't happen again. It's explained it by saying, look, there were bad weather

conditions in the area and the plane was avoiding that weather and sort of accidentally went into Turkish air space. It's an explanation that the

Turks themselves appear to be ready to accept. But obviously we've heard from NATO there, NATO coming out with a hard line condemnation of this

action by Russia.

And in a statement that they released a couple of hours ago, NATO says that there was another incursion as well by a Russian plane which took place the

day afterwards, so on the 4th of October, into Turkish air space. I've been trying to seek clarification from NATO officials about that because neither

the Turks nor Russians are acknowledging that happened. But NATO is insisting that that's what they've been told

And so there's a good deal of confusion around at the moment about what exactly happened. But I mean certainly from the terms of Russia and Turkey,

they're trying to play this incident down to a very large extent.

GORANI: And let's talk about those reports that perhaps Russia is getting ready to back up a ground offensive inside of Syria.


GORANI: We're talking here of yet another escalation if it indeed materializes inside Syria by the Russian military.


GORANI: What -- has there been any confirmation of that from Russian authorities?

CHANCE: No, not at all. I mean, we're hearing these reports from U.S. Officials. They're telling a Pentagon team that this is their latest

assessment of what the movements on the ground are, presumably as a result of their analysis of the satellite images and other intelligence that

they've been - they've been gathering.


CHANCE: They're saying essentially that Russia has been moving in ground attack weaponry and forces to operate them. Things like artillery and

multiple rocket launchers and things like that, in preparation for what could be a major ground offensive. Now what Russia says is that it has no

intention whatsoever of sending troops, ground troops into action in Syria. It already has several hundred at least on the ground. But they're more in

a sort of force protection role surrounding the air base at Latakia and other installations where Russia has a military presence.

And you know, it's quite difficult for Russia. There's a lot of sensitivities in Russia about sending ground troops into a combat zone like

Syria. Remember, Syria is the first campaign that Russia has engaged in outside the former Soviet Union since the late 1970s when it invaded

Afghanistan. And there's still a lot of sensitivity amongst the Russian public about that. Take a listen to what some of the Russian public had to

say that we spoke to earlier.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I see myself as a pacifist. I'm against any wars. I'm for peace and any war leads to another war and aggressive actions in

return, so I'm against it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are as businessmen, we are against anything that effects on our business and what we do.

CHANCE: Do you think conflict in Syria will have an impact on the economy here? Because it's going to be expensive isn't it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, one effect which will have its influence on the economy and the economical situation in our sphere, in our business, I

believe it will - it will have some impact and that's what we wouldn't like to have.


CHANCE: So not a very popular engagement by the Russians. In fact, the latest opinion poll that we've seen suggests that only 14% of Russians are

in favor of this kind of direct Russian military action in Syria. You know, a lot of people are against it, Hala.

GORANI: All right. Matthew Chance live in Moscow, thanks very much. And by the way I'll be speaking with Mark Toner, a State Department spokesperson a

little bit later about what's going on inside Syria, about Russia's involvement but also about our next story.

Doctors Without Borders are saying that the United States remains responsible for a deadly air strike on its hospital in Kunduz Afghanistan,

and it is trying to pass responsibility to the Afghan government.


GORANI: At least 22 people were killed in Saturday's attack which the aid group is calling a war crime. The commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan

says Afghan forces called for air support from the U.S. Military.

JOHN CAMPBELL, U.S. ARMY: We have now learned that on October 3rd, Afghan forces advised that they were taking fire from enemy positions and asked

for air support from U.S. Forces.

An air strike was then called to eliminate the Taliban threat and several civilians were accidently struck. This is different from the initial

reports which indicated that U.S. forces were threatened and that the air strike was called on their behalf.


GORANI: Well, let's get the latest on this. Our international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson joins me on the phone from the Afghan capital. He is

in Kabul. Nic, MSF continues to say that it gave all warring parties its precise coordinates.


GORANI: So I mean you have the Afghan saying, you know, the U.S. called it in. I mean how exactly can this go so terribly wrong?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: It's not clear at the moment. That's obviously what an investigation will get to. That's what General Campbell

says that the aim of the investigation will be to understand precisely what happened.

The Afghan Government had said that the Taliban were using the hospital as operations. Doctors Without Borders say they -- that is a disgusting thing

to say, that they -- that it implies that the Afghan and U.S. forces together were targeting them in the hospital which is a breach of

International Humanitarian Law and therefore a war crime.

What I think we're beginning to see here is that the U.S. is making an effort before there are results of any investigations to try to put out --

put forward new information. Initially and as recently as sort of 20 hours or so ago, NATO here was saying as General Campbell, said that the strike

initially was called in because it was U.S. forces that were under direct attack from the Taliban. Now it's something different. So I think what

we're hearing here is an effort to try to explain the steps of the (inaudible).

But Doctors without Borders say you know, first of all the United States collateral damage then an unfortunate tragic accident. And then they say

they're blaming it on the, you know blaming it on the Afghan forces. So Doctors Without Borders say you know, well, if that's the case, then that

really does show we actually do need an independent international and transparent investigation.


ROBERTSON: So you know, this investigation itself really still has some way to go before anyone is going to be satisfied with it here, Hala.


GORANI: And briefly, I understand there's an attack in Kabul tonight. You're heading, this is why we're on the phone with you. There is an attack

in Kabul. What's going on? What's the latest on that?


ROBERTSON: Well we've been out at the scene of the attack for several hours. There are large number of Afghan special forces and police deployed

blocking off a part of this area. Where an Afghan -- several Taliban, it appears, and it's an ongoing operation. Indeed, it appears at the moment as

if they were waiting until daylight they're saying to complete the operation.

But a car -- a car was parked outside a parliament member's building. Somebody was spotted going up or several people were spotted going up a

ladder into the building. The vehicle was left with its doors open. Somebody went to inspect the vehicle. The vehicle then exploded. Then there

was a detonation inside the building. So right now, there are several hundred Afghan security forces, multiple vehicles, you know, heavy weapons,

flak jackets, helmet, it's a full-on military operation at the moment to surround that area and then clear it. But what again it does show is the

Taliban's ability to strike inside the capital here, Hala.


GORANI: All right. Nic Robertson is in Kabul with the very latest. By the way you did hear from U.S. military officials that the strike was called by

Afghan officials, the strike on the MSF Hospital in Kunduz. We've reached out of course to the Afghan government today for an interview. They

declined our request and we'll have plenty more on that attack. As I mentioned I'll be speaking to the U.S. state department spokesperson, Mark

Toner, in just a few minutes.

A lot more ahead here on The World Right Now.



GORANI: Tensions are running high in the west bank after a weekend in violence in Jerusalem. The details are just ahead.





GORANI: Welcome back. The Israeli Prime Minister is speaking out. Benjamin Netanyahu is vowing to take strong action against what he calls a current

wave of terror. This comes after a violent start to the week in the Middle East. A Palestinian teenager was shot and killed Monday.


GORANI: He was 13 years old. He died after riots broke out in Bethlehem in the West Bank. Israeli security forces fired rounds toward what they called

instigators who were hurling rocks. The boy's family members say he was simply walking home from school at the time.


GORANI: In Jerusalem's old city, Israeli authorities are taking some extreme action. They are banning most Palestinians from entering at all.

The measures were taken after a knife and gun attack that killed two Israelis and injured two others. There's been a lot of increased violence

between Palestinians and Israelis and it's taking tensions to new heights in recent weeks.

Just last week, an Israeli couple were shot and killed before their four children. A week before, a Palestinian teenager was shot by Israeli

soldiers at a military checkpoint.


GORANI: The latest developments in Jerusalem are shocking and we should warn you, it may be difficult for many viewers to watch. The overnight

events were captured on cellphone video and there are scenes that not only depict the horror of what happened, but also threaten to inflame tensions

even more. Here's CNN's Erin McLaughlin.

ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Panic in the old city of Jerusalem, about 8:30 in the evening. Screams of a dying Rabbi. Israeli

authorities say moments before he had attempted to defend an Israeli couple and their infant from stabbing by a Palestinian man.

The subsequent attack on the Rabbi captured on this shaky cellphone footage by a Palestinian shop owner. Israeli police say by the time they arrived,

the attacker had grabbed the Rabbi's gun. Now they will kill him says an off camera voice in Arabic. [ gunshots ] Shooting happens out of frame.

Israeli police say when the teenager fired, police shot and killed him. We was later identified as Mohammad Halabi, a Palestinian from the West Bank.

His last Facebook posting, according to what I see, the third intifada has started, he wrote. The Rabbi and Israeli father died of their stab wounds.

In that charged atmosphere at 2:00 a.m. a group of far right Israelis gather outside the Damascus gate of the Old City. People want revenge, they

say. In Hebrew a young boy shouts, death to Arabs. Then two hours later and a block away another incident captured on Israeli cell phone footage.

Another 19 year old Palestinian man is seen running along a tramline outside the Old City, followed by Israelis shouting, he's a terrorist,

shoot him, shoot him.

In another video you see the police arrive and you hear seven gunshots as he falls to the ground. [gunshots ] you see a police officer pointing his

gun. Voices off camera ask, did he stab someone? Someone answers, no, he did not succeed. Who did he try to attack? Israeli police say the 19-year-

old man was shot holding a knife in his hand covered in blood. Police say he had just stabbed a 15 year old Israeli and the shooting prevented

additional attacks.

Palestinians say he had attacked no one. Just got into a verbal altercation with the Israelis protesting outside Damascus gate. They say the Israeli

protestors simply wanted him dead.

He was later identified as (inaudible) from East Jerusalem. His friends say he was peaceful, that he loved fashion and wanted to be a model. His

father says he was executed in cold blood.

For days, there have been running clashes as Palestinians protest restrictions that have prohibited Palestinian men under the age of 50 from

worshipping at the (inaudible) mosque. Far right Israelis too have been visiting the mosque compound. Now stone throwing and tear gas have

escalated to stabbing and gunfire. The anger and passions captured on video, video that will likely make tensions worse in this already tense

city. Erin McLaughlin, CNN, Jerusalem.


GORANI: A lot more coming up.


GORANI: She's the lifeline for many Yazidi women enslaved by ISIS. Their path to freedom starts with a phone call asking for help.


GORANI: Also ahead, Air France executives were forced to take plight after being attacked by their own staff. Details are coming up.





GORANI: Let's return now to one of our top stories. The escalating outrage and dispute over an air strike that devastated a Doctors Without Borders

hospital in Kunduz in Afghanistan. Let's take a look at the aid groups stance on the bombing.


GORANI: The group is also known as Medecins Sans Frontieres it says the attack continued even after U.S. and Afghan officials were informed that

their hospital was being hit. Both American and Afghan forces were given GPS coordinates of the hospital days before the strike according to MSF.

It has also strongly denied claims that led - that it let or allowed I should say combatants use its facilities for fighting in Kunduz.


GORANI: Let's go live to Washington and speak to Mark Toner, he's a deputy spokesperson for the U.S. State Department. Mr. Toner, thanks for being

with us.

Let me ask you first about this tragedy in Kunduz. MSD saying the U.S. all war parties in fact were given precise coordinates, that the bombing

continued for 30 minutes after the hospital was hit.

How could this have gone so horribly wrong?

MARK TONER, DEPUTY SPOKESPERSON, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT: Well, you've heard everyone from the President as well as the Pentagon speak to this, as you

said, terrible tragedy that happened over the weekend.


TONER: Obviously, first and foremost, our condolences to the victims, the families, the loved ones of this - who suffered in this tragedy. And it is

that. It's obviously under investigation now. I can't speak to the timeline of events or what led to this. That's all under investigation. And in fact

there's I think three investigations underway at this point, one obviously led by the Department of Defense.


TONER: You know, we're going to get to the bottom of it, and we're going to do so in a transparent and credible manner, and we're going to hold those

accountable if there are those who should be held accountable for their actions. But right now obviously our deepest condolences to the people

affected who are by it.

GORANI: But is this going to change the way the U.S. operates in Afghanistan militarily? And top U.S. Commanders, as you know are saying the

Afghans called this strike saying they were taking hits? How is this going to change things in order to avoid this in the future?

TONER: Well again, that's one of the reasons behind, and one of the reasons why we conduct these kinds of investigations. Is if there are -- were

mistakes made, that we learn from them and we correct them going forward. And we -- and we improve our processes.

You know, I can't speak to what this investigation will find. What I can speak to is the fact that you know, no one, no country, no government, no

military holds itself to a higher standard in terms of investigating and working to avoid civilian casualties than the United States. And so we're

going to investigate this thoroughly and we're going to find out what happened and as I said we're going to take steps to ensure it never happens

again. But that said --

GORANI: Let's turn to Syria.yes, go ahead. No I was going to turn to Syria here. Go ahead and continue your thought, sir.


TONER: No, I just wanted to say let's let the investigations run their course. But you know obviously it's a great tragedy. Go ahead.

GORANI: It is indeed and a lot of people want answers as quickly as possible as well which is understandable.

If we could turn to Syria now and Russia -- the Russian incursion into Turkish air space, a jet on its way into Syria. What does the U.S. believe

happened there? Do they believe the version of events that this was accidental?

TONER: Well, accidental or not, it's extremely concerning. We obviously met as part of NATO earlier today in Brussels.


TONER: Expressed our strong concern about Russia's actions which -- whether accidental or not, were reckless. And it really speaks to the need as we've

said multiple times in the past week, that if Russia is indeed operating in that air space, that we need to have a mechanism in place, a dialogue in

place where we can know where they're going, what they're doing and de- conflict. Because God forbid you know a horrible accident happened or an incident take place that puts in jeopardy the lives of our airmen and our

airwomen. Whether - whoever .

GORANI: It sounds like you're saying - it sounds like you're saying not enough dialogue is going on when we understand that the Defense Ministries

of both countries have been trying to at least stay in touch with regards to basically sharing the same air space inside Syria. Do you believe

there's a risk here for some sort of crisis between the two while both countries conduct parallel air campaigns?

TONER: Well, this is the reason why we called for these talks in the first place, and this is a very operational level. You know, it's because when

you've got two militaries or frankly many more militaries, there's 60 some odd members of the anti-ISIL coalition operating in the same air space that

you need to de-conflict. You need to make - you need to make others aware of where you're flying, what your routes are, what your missions are.

You know, we've often said that we want to see Russia play a constructive role if they indeed that's their intent in combatting ISIL. Thus far, we

haven't seen that at all.

GORANI: OK, let me ask you about these reports that perhaps and two separate sources told our Barbara Starr that Russian ground troops may be

readying some sort of enhanced mission inside of Syria to at the very least back up a ground offensive by Syrian military personnel. Do you believe

that Russia is readying ground troops inside Syria?


TONER: We've seen those reports. We just don't have any information. We're seeking clarity, frankly, on that precise report as I speak. Look, you

know, thus far, we've seen no indication that Russia is playing a constructive role in Syria right now. In fact, frankly, they're only

raising tensions between the Syrian regime led by Bashar al Assad and the Syrian opposition, the moderate opposition. We've been very clear that when

you're talking about the civil war that has now engulfed Syria, there's no military solution to this. There needs to be a political process. We agree

on that. Frankly the Russians say they agree on that. Go ahead.

GORANI: OK, we'll wait and see if there's confirmation of Russian ground involvement or any increased Russian ground involvement in Syria. But many

people looking and observing this situation are saying Russia seems to be completely shaping events inside Syria where the U.S. was completely unable

to do so, with an anti-ISIS army that basically collapsed.

I mean, how do you respond to criticism that the U.S. has been inept inside Syria and Russia is now holding the cards?

TONER: Well again, I think that's, I would call that a mischaracterization.


TONER: You know I think it's a strategic mistake on Russia's part, we believe, to put itself into what is basically a civil war. Obviously

there's long-standing interest there, support for Assad. But you know as Secretary Kerry said multiple times last week, that's not the winning side

on this, that's not the side of Syria's future. You know, Assad represents a minority. He's carried out brutal attacks on his own people. And so for

Russia to affiliate themselves even more so with Assad and his regime, it's not a winning hand.



GORANI: Mark Toner, , spokesperson at the State Department, thanks very much for joining us. We appreciate your time on CNN this evening.

TONER: Thanks.

GORANI: A lot more ahead. She survived by playing dead.



GORANI: We'll introduce you to a woman who made it out alive after a college shooting that killed nine others. Her incredible story is next.




GORANI: Welcome back. Our top stories; Russia is calling a Turkish air space violation a mistake according to Turkish media.


GORANI: Turkey says it intercepted a Russian jet during the weekend before it flew into Syria. This news as Moscow is intensifying air strikes in

Syria began last week.


GORANI: Doctors Without Borders says it holds the United States responsible for an air strike at a hospital in Afghanistan that killed at least 22



GORANI: The Pentagon says Afghan forces asked for a U.S. air strike in Kunduz Saturday before the aid group's hospital was hit.


GORANI: Also among our top stories; the U.S. Coast guard is looking for survivors from a missing cargo ship it now believes sank near the Bahamas.


GORANI: Searchers have found debris from the vessel including a life boat and unidentified human remains. 33 crew members were on board when the El

Faro lost contact last week in the middle of hurricane Joaquin.




GORANI: We're learning more horrifying details about last week's mass shooting at a community college in Oregon.


GORANI: They come from a woman in the classroom who actually survived by playing dead. She told our Sara Sidner the gunman seemed happy and calm and

showed no mercy. And we warn you, some of what she shares is disturbing.

TRACY HEU, OREGON SHOOTING SURVIVOR: I really don't know how i survived. I just -- I don't know. I was actually planning on just, you know, waiting to

see the black light. You know, just waiting not to see anything anymore.

SARA SIDNER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Tracy Heu lived because she played dead.

HEU: I was sitting in the front of the classroom facing the teacher when everything happened. He just came in and shot towards the back of the wall

and told everybody to get in the center of the room.

SIDNER: It was one of her fellow students. He showed up on the fourth day of classes with guns, not books. He set his sights on classroom 15 and

Snider Hall at Umpqua Community College.

HEU: He seemed happy about it, he didn't seem stressed, he didn't seem nervous. But when he came in, he told everybody to get on the ground. So

everybody huddled to the ground and then the girl in the wheelchair tried to get -- she got off and tried to get down on the ground.

SIDNER: Wait, there was a woman in a wheel share during all this as well?

HEU: Yes. And she had a dog with her. But the dog was just on the ground. And she got off the chair, she went on the ground, and then he told her to

get back on the chair. And then she tried to climb back on the chair and then he shot her.

SIDNER: Tracy didn't know it yet, but the girl in the wheelchair was dead. He turned his attention to professor Larry Lavine.

HEU: He told the professor to get down on the ground as well. So he was trying to crawl down to the ground with us, then he shot the professor and

then he just started shooting everybody on the ground. And then that's when I knew that, you know, this is it, I'm probably going to die, you know. I

probably won't see my kids anymore. I probably won't see anybody anymore.

SIDNER: Face down on the ground hit by a bullet in the hand, she thought about her three children and waited to die.

HEU: The warmth of the blood that was all over me, that's when I knew that it was real. And I remember whispering to one other person that was next to

me, you know he's only one person, all of us, you know we've just we got to do something about it or you know we're all just going to die.

SIDNER: But then she heard the shooter make a promise. He would spare one of the male students. What did he say exactly?

HEU: He said that you're the lucky one, I'm -- you know, I'm going to let you live, but I'm going to need you to go and tell the police everything

that happened and give them this.

SIDNER: He handed the man an envelope to give to police, and then started asking his victims about their religion.

HEU: He asked them, are you Christian, do you believe in god. And then they said yes, and he said good, I'll send you, you know, I'll send you to God,

you'll be visiting God pretty soon. And he shoots them. Then he asked them about being Catholic and they said yes, he then he still shot them. I

seriously don't know where he shot them or who he killed, but he shot them either way.


GORANI: That was Sara Sidner reporting. Police said that during the weekend, the medical examiner determined the shooter in fact killed


All right. Now onto something completely different. There is a new man in the top job at twitter and he's a very familiar face and name. He is in

fact the founder of twitter, Jack Dorsey, and he's taking over the CEO job on a permanent basis after serving as interim chief for the past three


CNN's Samuel Burke joins me now with more. Jack Dorsey, so he founded it, he was interim CEO, and now permanent CEO. What's in store?

SAMUEL BURKE, CNN BUSSINESS CORRESPONDENT: He has more and more in common with Steve Jobs. Created this revolutionary tech company pushed out and now

he's back. And today on the call with investors he talked about making fundamental changes to the twitter product which is something he's been

saying for a long time. Here's what he told me late last year.


JACK DORSEY, TWITTER CEO: I think there will always be evolutions of the product because you know we want to make it better and we want to make it

more relevant for people. And you know there's a lot of work to be done so that when people open up the app or open up the website, they see something

that really speaks to them right away.


BURKE: So what I understand that to be is he wants the timeline on twitter to be a bit more like Facebook.


BURKE: So not chronological order, Hala, but maybe the tweets that are most important. You're up there, and we're also hearing reports that they're

going to move past the 140 character limit. Are you dying to right longer tweets?



GORANI: I'm actually not at all dying to write longer tweets. And my question is if you duplicate the product with Facebook, I mean we're

journalist, twitter's a dream for us. Very short updates, we like them to be chronological. I certainly wouldn't want to type in a story or a search

and then get something that just happen to get something relevant from six hours ago.

BURKE: And Jack Dorsey was quick to say to me in that interview that he wants to find a happy place between where twitter is now without becoming

Facebook. But the problem is, they've made a product that's great for journalists and 316 million other people, but nowhere near the 1.4 billion

that Facebook has.


BURKE: They need to have a product that appeals to more people. They can monetize, but they haven't -- don't have the user base.

GORAN I: And also they don't -- the percentage of people who use it daily is a lot lower than the percentage of people who use Facebook daily and

that's a big problem.

BURKE: And people come to it and just leave permanently because they don't understand how to use it. So he said over and over again, we have to make

the product easier to use.


GORANI: All right, let's talk about a set of executives who are not having such a big day. And speaking of Twitter, the talk of twitter, is what's

going on with Air France. Three Air France executives were forced to flee. Angry employees basically attacked them physically during meeting about job

cuts. Take a look at the video it's absolutely remarkable.


GORANI: You can see executives struggling to escape the crowd. Their shirts and jackets in tatters ripped off their bodies. Two human resources

executives and the company's CEO had to just leg it out of there. The staffers were angry because of job cuts.


BURKE: I saw this all over twitter today. But absolutely incredible. I can't ever think of a time where employees, while understandably upset

about 3,000 jobs being cut, actually ripping the shirts off of their bosses. And imagine, if you're caught in the video doing that Air France

did say that they are going to press charges against those people. Stunning.


GORANI: It is stunning indeed. There you have it once again. And you can hardly see it - in fact there you go. That I think is the human resources

director. Absolutely unbelievable. Thanks very much, Samuel Burke.


GORANI: Speaking of Facebook, speaking of Twitter, join us there, find us there, and let us know what you think of the

stories we cover. This is The World Right Now.

The U.S. State of South Carolina grappling with some deadly floods.



GORANI: The governor says it is not over yet. The latest next.




GORANI: Part of the CNN Freedom Project which aims to end modern day slavery, we want to focus now on a former Iraqi lawmaker and her husband.

They're on a mission literally to rescue Yazidi women and children held under ISIS control. As she spoke to CNN, the desperate phone calls from

some of those enslaved women kept coming in. Senior International Correspondent, Atika Shubert has our story.


ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The sound is muffled, crackly. Barely audible over the sound of children, but this is a

life line. A way to plot an escape from slavery under ISIS.

Every day, Ameena Hassan takes calls like this, pleas for help to escape. A former Iraqi lawmakers, Hassan she now makes it her mission to rescue as

many Yazidi women as she can. She remembers when ISIS first captured Mosul. She thought the Yazidi on Mount Sinjar would be safe.

AMEENA HASSAN, FORMER IRAQI LAWMAKER: We said why are they coming to Sinjar because there is no oil, not anything.

SHUBERT: But ISIS did come for the Yazidi. They took the women and children and killed the men. Many of the families turned to Ameena Hassan.

HASSAN: I mean the people know me. And I'm from Sinjar and also I'm Yazidi. I know many people of them who was kidnapped.

SHUBERT: This audio recording was one of Hassan's first rescues. A 35-year- old woman with six children all captured, bought and sold in the slave markets of ISIS. She described what happened when ISIS surrounded their



Together with her husband Khalil, Ameena Hassan manages a network to smuggle the women out. She takes the calls, Khalil makes the dangerous

journey to the border to bring them out.

These are photos of just some of the rescues. So far, they have brought out more than a hundred. But there are still hundreds more. And for many, the

wait is too long. Some have taken their own lives rather than wait for rescue. Hassan collects photos of the girls she could not save.

HASSAN: We just want they be rescue. We just want that. I said there is most of them we don't have contact with them. We don't know where they are


SHUBERT: And you try to talk to them so that they don't lose hope.

HASSAN: When they lose the hope to rescue and when the ISIS many times sell them and rape them.

SHUBERT: Ameena Hassan's work has been recognized, awarded by the state department this year. But Hassan says it's the voices of the people she

could not save that she can't forget.

HASSAN: When you will rescue us, but I don't have answer. I don't have answer. And I'm not government. I'm not anything. I'm just people. It's

very difficult.

SHUBERT: Hassan's weapon against ISIS is her phone. Delivering the sound of hope, however distant, and her promise that help is coming.

Atika Shubert, CNN, in the Kurdish region of Iraq.


GORANI: Our week one coverage on the plight of Yazidis continues on Tuesday.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He showed me a letter and said, this shows any captured women will become Muslim if ten ISIS fighters rape her.

GORANI: Three Yazidi girls who were ISIS sex slaves provide a firsthand account of the brutality of the terror group. Watch that Tuesday on CNN.


GORANI: And remember, we'll be covering these remarkable stories of courage and resistance on our website, There you'll find all of

our exclusive reports.

Coming up, officials in South Carolina tell residents not to let their guard down as the danger from flooding persists.


GORANI: Take a look at these unbelievable images. Despite the rain finally letting up, the danger is still there. We'll be right back.






GORANI: Well, the rain is tapering off in the U.S. State of South Carolina, but the governor is making it clear that the danger is not over.


GORANI: There have been some really deadly flood waters hitting the state. Very hard during days of heavy record setting rainfall, take a look at


Basically people chest deep in this raging rain water on the streets. At least nine people have died in weather-related incidents. Hundreds of roads

and bridges are still closed. And now we're just getting word out of the city of Columbia of a dam breach.


GORANI: Officials have ordered a mandatory evacuation downstream of the Overcreek dam. That's just east of downtown Columbia, the state capital.

Let's get more, Tom Sater, is at the world weather center. What's the situation right now? Is there more rain in the forecast? Hopefully not.

TOM SATER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: No, the only rain Hala is just going to play with the psyche a little bit. It's light rain and those are following a

forecast just see the clouds that are dark and rainy thinking here we go again.

To back up a little bit before we get to the breach. What a devastating weekend from the landslides in Guatemala, deadly floods on the French

Riveria. We had a typhoon spawn tornados in southern China and of course Joaquin.

We're hearing that out of the 31 inhabited islands, many have lost communication in the Bahamas, they're dropping supplies now from above.


SATER: The moisture field that Joaquin started to spill into the southeastern U.S., you can see it here, just a stream. Over 72 hours of the

rear tail end of the moisture getting caught up in an area of low pressure. Watch it spin in the southeastern U.S. All-time record rainfall. For one-

day record, two-day record, three-day records, a one in 1,000 year event. There have been over 30 breaches of bridge and levies across the state of

South Carolina, and we fear many more now that the rainfall is making it's way from small tributaries to the major rivers.


SATER: For the first time in five days, we do not have any flash flood warnings except for the area where we possibly now have a new breach in a

dam near the capital of Columbia. If this goes, this could be another Katrina of New Orleans.

Look at the amounts of rainfall. In purple here you're getting well over 500, 550, 600 millimeters of rain just two to two and a half days.

Something they have never seen before.

The rivers, there are small rivers that make their way into the larger rivers. And unfortunately, all of the rivers flow from the west to the

east. That means those communities such as Columbia, the capital, Charleston, that has been inundated, will now have rivers moving that water

back into their communities. There will be breaches. There will be problems with the flow. And again, how do you even manage this when you have so many

levies that have broken you can't control the flow of water and try to release it in some areas of dams?

This is a quick picture of the state. In red are road closures. Look at all the dots. And bridges are in blue that are closed. We fear once the water

recedes, Hala, this could be the next billion-dollar natural disaster in the U.S. that we've seen in the last several years. We're not sure what the

infrastructure problems will be, but it's going to cost a lot and it's going to cause months of worries for hundreds of thousands in South



GORANI: All right. Unbelievable images. We saw similar images actually in the South of France, which is extremely unusual there.

Thanks very much., Tom Sater is at the world weather center with more.

All right do stay with us. We're going to have a lot more at the top of the hour Quest Means Business is coming up. And of course over the next

several hours, we'll have a lot more of the latest on Syria, that Russian jet incursion into Turkish air space.

I'm Hala Gorani. Stay with CNN.