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HALA GORANI, HOST: Tonight, Russian forces show no signs of letting up inside of Syria as Turkey warns Moscow to stay out of its air space.


GORANI: My interview with NATO Secretary General who tells me that Russia is acting recklessly.

Also, the commander of forces in Afghanistan says the bombing of a MSF hospital was a mistake. We'll have the details.

Plus a shock story from the United States where one child shoots and kills another in a dispute over a puppy.

And finally, allegations of cheating hit the billion dollar business of fantasy sports.


GORANI: Those among all of the stories we are covering this evening. I'm Hala Gorani, we're live from CNN London, and this is The World Right Now.


GORANI: Well, as Russia continues with the airstrikes inside of Syria, it made the announcements today; American officials are saying Moscow is also

ramping up military activity on the ground.


GORANI: Activists say these pictures in fact show Russian jets carrying out bombing raids on Idlib. Russia says it hit 12 ISIS targets across

Syria Tuesday and denies multiple reports that it bombed the city of Palmyra which is held by ISIS.

The NATO Chief, Jens Stoltenberg says he doubts that Russia's true interest is fighting ISIS and accuses it of attacking the Syrian opposition and

civilians. We'll have that interview with the NATO Secretary General in a moment.

But take a look at this map; most Russian air strikes shown here in yellow are not hitting ISIS strongholds. I spoke with Jens Stoltenberg today and

as I mentioned that interview is airing in just a moment.


GORANI: First though, let's check in with our correspondents. Arwa Damon is in Istanbul where Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has some harsh

words for Russia over violations of Turkish airspace. Let's start with Matthew Chance in Moscow for more on the very latest.

And Russia, as we were saying to our viewers at the top their of the program, Matthew continuing with its air strikes inside Syria.

MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes that's right. I mean over the course of the past 24 hours, it's carried out you know

nearly a couple of dozen air strikes still against various targets most of which the Kremlin insists or the Russian Defense Ministry insists are ISIS



CHANCE: They say they've struck areas you know across various Syrian provinces. They're targeting ISIS tanks and other heavy weaponry. Bunkers

where there are weapons stored and ammunition stored. And they've put out video as well of the explosions of these various facilities and bits of

machinery and weaponry being targeted.

And so, yes, I mean they're pressing ahead with this air campaign, and if anything they're stepping up the intensity of it as the days go ahead and

it has been you know almost a week now since these air strikes began.

GORANI: And Arwa Damon in Istanbul, of course it's not just what's happening inside of Syria but those two incursions now we're hearing from

NATO of a Russian jet inside Turkish airspace and we are hearing from the Turkish President about it today. What did he have to say?


ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We are and those two incursions happened on October 3rd and 4th. Initially seemingly being

downplayed as some sort of mistake, the Russians blaming it on the weather, NATO not necessarily buying that and Turkey is not either at this stage

with the President Recep Tayyip Erdogan lashing out to Russia with these words.


RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN, TURKISH PRESIDENT: (As translated) An attack against Turkey is an attack against NATO. I want people to know that. We know our

relationship with Russia but if Russia wants to lose Turkey as a friend with whom it has a great cooperation then Russia will lose a lot of things.

Russia needs to know that.


DAMON: And Turkey and Russia's relationship is fairly intricate and complex to say the least. They are on opposing sides when it comes to the Syrian

battlefield, but they do have very significant economic ties and they also have ongoing relationships, negotiations at stake when it comes to the

energy sector.


DAMON: Unlikely at this stage, Hala, that Turkey will go beyond that sort of rhetoric. But this really is becoming quite the game of words. We also

heard from Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem who had some pretty barbed comments seemingly directed at the United States, Turkey perhaps and that

coalition saying without a doubt Russia will win this race.


DAMON: Because not only has Russia positioned itself now as a very key significant if not most important player when it comes to the Syrian

battlefield, it has also formed that intelligence allegiance with itself, Syria, Iraq, and Iran, one that most certainly is putting it at the

negotiating table with a very strong hand, Hala.

GORANI: And Matthew Chance, in Moscow. There are now several reports that we heard from the NATO Secretary General that Russia is increasing its

ground troops, increasing in fact its naval assets in Syria as well. Is Russia continuing to deny that beyond its air campaign it is in fact moving

in more equipment and even ground troops into Syria at this stage?

CHANCE: I mean categorically denying that, Hala. You know there have been reports coming out of the Pentagon in Washington that analysts have been

looking at the intelligence reports, and assessing that there is a troop buildup of Russian forces in Syria, possibly in preparation for some type

of ground offensive.

But this is something that the Kremlin has absolutely ruled out at least publicly saying it has no intention of putting boots on the ground; this is

purely an air campaign. Of course the problem that Russia has that its credibility has been somewhat undermined by the experience of the past 18

months or so in Ukraine, where it has insisted all along that its forces have not fighting alongside the pro-Russian rebels, but of course many

western governments simply don't believe that, and they don't believe Russia now.

GORANI: And Arwa, finally as we - I mean what a difference two weeks make right? Because two weeks ago we hadn't even had the first Russian air

strike. How much is this truly helping the Assad regime?

DAMON: Well, it really is bolstering their self-confidence, and if you speak to the opposition and rebel fighters, they're very worried that these

Russian air strikes are going to allow Assad's forces to move forward to gain strategic territory. Because if you look at where the strikes are

really being carried out, they are yes in some instances on ISIS targets, but in a lot of other cases according to all sources except for the

Russians and the Syrian regime, they are going after the various different rebel faction.

Now Russia is carrying out these airstrikes at the request of the Syrian government that does by and large consider all of the rebel groups to be

terrorist. But there are yes very serious worries that the Assad regime is going to be able to move forward and gain key strategic ground. Whereas on

the flip side of it if you look at what the U.S. led coalition is doing, sure it's carrying out more strikes against ISIS but it hasn't really

served to push them back anywhere significantly. And it isn't really helping at this stage rebel factions move forward. So the Russians are

swaying the battlefield in the favor of the Assad regime.


GORANI: All right, Arwa Damon in Istanbul, and Matthew Chance in Moscow, our two senior international correspondences. Thanks very much interesting

discussion. We've been talking and reporting about the NATO Secretary- General Jens Stoltenberg about what he's been saying about Russia its violations of Turkish air space. He called them dangerous, he called them

unacceptable. I spoke with him before the show asking him first about Russia's increased military presence inside Syria.

JENS STOLTENBERG, NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL: So we have seen a substantial military build-up by Russia in Syria both in the air with combat planes and

air defense systems but also an increasing number of ground troops. In addition to that they have deployed naval assets, a large number of naval

assets close to the - close to the Syrian shores, and they continue to do so. I'm not able to provide any exact numbers but they have increased

their military presence very much over the last weeks.

GORANI: So no exact numbers of troops but what about their role? Because according to these Pentagon sources who've spoken to CNN, these troops

might in fact be preparing to provide support for a ground defensive by the Syrian army. Do you believe that's the case?

STOLTENBERG: The Russians have stated themselves that their purpose of this military deployment is partly to fight terrorism or terrorist groups. But

also to support the Assad regime and they have been very outspoken and clear on their support of the Assad regime.

The challenge is that they are not attacking ISIL, or at least they are - the mainly - they are attacking other opposition groups and this provides

strong support for Assad regime, and this is not constructive contribution to a solution of the conflict in Syria.



GORANI: But if I may Secretary General, my question was about the role NATO believes Russian ground troops may be preparing to play inside Syria. Do

you think it could go beyond airbase support and in to actually ground offensives in support of the Syrian military?

STOLTENBERG: So I will not speculate at this time I will just comment on what we have seen, and we have seen a substantial military buildup.

We have seen that they have mainly attacked other targets than ISIL. That they are providing support for the Assad regime and that is also the stated

purpose of their increased military presence is to also support existing regime.

GORANI: Now you've talked about this violation of Turkish airspace. You've said by Russia, you've said "it doesn't look like an accident" you said in

part because two violations occurred and they "lasted for a long time."

So really what you're saying is this was deliberate on the part of Russia. Correct?

STOLTENBERG: So based on our intelligence and based on the information we have this does not look like an accident. And it's always a serious matter

when the airspace of a southern nation is violated as we saw during the weekend. And we have to do whatever is possible to avoid something like

that to happen again.

GORANI: So do you consider that two violations of Turkey's airspace by Russia; do you consider those events to be acts of aggression in any way?

STOLTENBERG: It's unacceptable, it's dangerous and it's reckless behavior. And it adds to the tensions we see and the violation of the Turkish

airspace becomes even more important or more dangerous because it happens in a context where we saw more fighting, more Russian military presence in

Syria. So I think also we have to understand that in this context of increased tensions to the south of - the alliance to the south of Turkey in

Syria, this just adds to the seriousness of the whole situation and of the airspace violation.

GORANI: So you're not calling it an aggression you're calling it reckless. But the question of course now is if you say it happened twice, what will

NATO's reaction be if it happens again.

STOLTENBERG: We have the means, we have the capabilities to defend all allies, but the important thing now is that we have to convey a very clear

message to Russia that this should not happen again. And that's also a reason why our military commanders will contact their counterparts in

Russia, to convey this very clear message to them.

GORANI: So if Turkey decided to shoot a Russian jet into its airspace that would be something that would be considered, if indeed there was a

violation, justified.

STOLTENBERG: I will limit myself to say that NATO is able to defend and protect all allies and Turkey is a strong ally and they have their own

military capabilities and they are able to uphold the sovereignty and control of their own airspace and we support them when they are controlling

their own airspace.

GORANI: The NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg, answering the question what would NATO do if Russia makes another, a third incursion into

Turkish airspace.

Still to come tonight.


GORANI: America's commander in Afghanistan says the bombing of an aid hospital was "a mistake" but the decision to OK the strikes went through

the military's chain of command.

New details ahead on what Doctors Without Borders is calling a war crime.






GORANI: The head of American forces in Afghanistan says that a Doctors without Borders hospital was bombed by mistake.


GORANI: The medical center in Kunduz was hit by an air strike during the weekend killing 22 people, including medical personnel.

Testifying before the U.S. Senate today, John Campbell said that Afghan forces initially asked for the strike, but that it was an American decision

to launch them.

GENERAL JOHN CAMPBELL, COMMANDER, U.S. FORCES AFGHANISTA: To be clear, the decision to provide aerial fires was a U.S. decision made within the U.S.

chain of command. A hospital was mistakenly struck. We would never intentionally target a protected medical facility. I must allow the

investigation to take its course, and therefore I'm not at liberty to discuss further specifics at this time.

However, I assure you that the investigation will be thorough, objective and transparent.


GORANI: Well just moments ago we heard from the U.S. Defense Secretary, Ash Carter, he echoed those comments by General Campbell saying "when we make

mistakes, we own up to them." Doctors Without Borders though, is demanding, not a U.S. investigation, they want an independent investigation, and

they're calling the bombing "a war crime."

Now heavy fighting has been battering Kunduz for weeks even with American air power to help. Government forces are struggling to take the city back

from the Taliban, and thousands of civilians are paying their price. As CNN's Nic Robertson shows us many are escaping to the capital Kabul

carrying with them the grief and their anger.


NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERANTIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Chased out of Kunduz, the city's lawmaker comforts residents. The government doesn't have any plan to

help these people, she tells me, they have nothing. They've left it all al behind in Kunduz. In protest, they've set up a makeshift camp outside of

Kabul's Ministry of Power and Water. It's not their only complaint against the government.

They tell me that they saw soldiers running away from the Taliban, residents left to fend for themselves. My father was shot by the Taliban,

he tells me, we couldn't get to his funeral.

Is the Taliban getting stronger these days?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. Taliban not strike. But the government.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, some government supported the .

ROBERTSON: The Taliban.


ROBERTSON: His parliamentarian has suspensions about how they entered and captured the city. Ethnic divisions may have played a role in helping the

Taliban. How were the Taliban able to get into the city and take it so quickly?

[15:20:00] Lawmaker Aziz tells me the Taliban captured it easily within two or three hours. The Government she says did nothing for three days allowing

the Taliban to loot stockpiles of tanks, vehicles, weapons and ammunition.

Whatever the facts about how the Taliban took Kunduz, right now the people of the city are vulnerable, they feel let down by their government.

I ask if they want American help.

The Americans, they hit the hospital but they're supporting the Afghan army, do you want the Americans to continue to help the Afghan army?

Yes we do he says but if they hit more hospitals then no.

Do you still want American forces here to help the government? Do you still need American forces to help the Afghan army?

AZIZ: She tells me the Afghan army are not really capable of stopping. The people she calls terrorists at the moment. We need help but please, please

she adds stop killing civilians.

Nic Robertson, CNN, Kabul, Afghanistan.


GORANI: Coming up, it's the billion dollar industry you may have never heard of.


GORANI: But is there cheating in the world of fantasy sports? Stay with us.



GORANI: It may be a niche activity, I have to confess I have never engaged in it but it is a big multi-billion dollar business and it operates with

very few rules and some very high stakes.


GORANI: Two of the biggest companies in the fantasy sports industry have banned their employees from playing the games for money, amid claims that

workers used insider information to place bets.

The New York Times says one worker has admitted to accidentally leaking confidential information.


GORANI: The two companies defended the integrity of their game saying they have strong policies in place to ensure employees to do not misuse any

information at their disposal.

Perhaps that isn't what happened. CNN Money's Cristina Alecsi joins me now from New York with more.

First of all for those of our viewers who may not be familiar with fantasy sports and gambling. What is it about?

CRISTINA ALECSI, CNN MONEY"S CORRESPONDENT: Well it's a platform where you pay an entry fee, a small - usually a small amount for one of the larger

leagues. You put together a team of players you think that has the best likelihood of winning.


ALECSI: And the users that put together a team that scores the most points, that's the actual players score the most points, they get a piece of the

prize money. So it isn't technically gambling, it is a platform for people, it's a game of skill, because you need data in order to make that



ALECSI: Now what in this case is that a Draft Kings' employee basically leaked accidentally is what he says, some information that is confidential

and could be helpful in making those decisions.


ALECSI: That information could give whoever had access to it an unfair advantage, that's why the closest analogy is insider trading in the stock

market. It is when you have information that's not disclosed to the general market that can help you profit. So that is what may have happened here,

and that's what's caused so much controversy is.

And there is a lot of money at stake. If you think about it, these two companies combined said that they were on track to pay off $4 billion in

prize money, that's a lot of prize money.


ALECSI: And keep in mind that there's $56.8 million people who play fantasy sports, not exactly this kind but industry wide. And those numbers are

supposed to grow which is why media companies, including CNN's parent company, Time Warner had made investments in these kind of vehicles not in

Draft Kings per se in Time Warner's case but in the rival site, Fan Duel.

So there's a lot of money at stake and this is a - this is a big deal. The story's really going up.

GORANI: And so is it first of all, a) is it illegal to share privileged information I mean in the same way it's illegal when you buy and sell

stocks, and are the companies reacting?

ALECSI: So it's not illegal because when Congress passed a law about internet gaming and internet gambling I should say it carved out an

exemption for these kinds of platforms. So none of this seems to be illegal but that doesn't mean to say that all of these people are shielded from


But there's no question of the legality from a criminal standpoint at this point in time. The companies say look we're changing our policies so that

employees of both companies are no longer allowed to play for money. Which should have been, you can argue, the case from the beginning.

GORANI: All right, interesting. Christina Alecsi in New York, thanks very much.

We'll return to our top a moment General Mark Hurtling will join me to talk about Russia's latest moves in Syria. What's the end game? Where do they

see the big picture in Syria? We'll be right back.




GORANI: Welcome back. Here's a look at our top stories this hour. NATO Chief, Jens Stoltenberg says Russia now has a substantial buildup of forces

in Syria.


GORANI: He says he doubts that Russia's primary interest is fighting ISIS accusing it of attacking the Syrian opposition and civilians instead.

Russia says its jets hit 12 more ISIS targets on Tuesday and it is denying any plans for a ground invasion.


GORANI: Also among our top stories, the head of U.S. forces in Afghanistan says that a Doctors Without Borders Hospital bombed in the city of Kunduz

was hit by mistake.


GORANI: The attack on Saturday killed 22 people. General John Campbell also told U.S. law makers that because of the tense situation on the ground

there he may need to readjust troop levels.


GORANI: Palestinian authority President, Mahmoud Abbas, says he does not want an escalation of violence with Israel as days of unrest threaten to

spiral out of control there.


GORANI: Palestinian protesters clashed again with Israeli forces in the West Bank. The Palestinian Red Crescent says at least 90 Palestinians were

hurt. Israel's military says it has no reports of injuries.

And also this story.


GORANI: The U.S. Coast Guard has spotted more debris as it searches for a cargo ship that disappeared in a hurricane.


GORANI: The authorities in America say they believe the El Faro sunk near the Bahamas with 33 people onboard. The ship's owner has said that the

captain appears to have lost control of the boat because of a mechanical malfunction.


GORANI: Bringing you back now to our top story; Russia intensifying its air attacks in Syria in just the past two weeks since Russian's incursion

began. It is dramatically changing the military dynamics on the ground and severely rattling diplomatic relations.


GORANI: It's been a game changing couple of weeks in international relations over Syria with Russia escalating its role in the civil war, and

the United States now entangled in a diplomatic standoff with its former Cold War enemy.

The first sign that Russia was stepping up its involvement came two weeks ago when new satellite images showed a buildup of Russian military inside


Russia has never hidden its support of Syrian President Bashar al Assad, but until recently it denied direct military involvement to help his


At the U.N. General Assembly last week, President Vladimir Putin sought to re-assure President Barack Obama, that no Russian attack inside Syria was

imminent stressing instead the need for a political solution.

But within two days the Russian parliament voted in favor of deploying military forces in Syria and just hours later the Russian air force carried

out its first airstrikes. The target, according to Putin, ISIS terrorists.

VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT: (As translated) we will support the Syrian army only in its legitimate fight specifically against terrorist


GORANI: Reports from on the ground in Syria however painted a very different picture. Syrian opposition groups supported by the United States

said they too had been hit by Russian strikes prompting Barack Obama to criticize Putin's strategy.


BARACK OBAMA, U.S. PRESIDENT: He doesn't distinguish between ISIL and a moderate Sunni opposition that wants to see Mr. Assad go. From their

perspective they're all terrorists and that's a recipe for disaster.

GORANI: As officials in Moscow and Washington discuss how their pilots will stay out of each others way over Syria already signs of further escalation.

The Pentagon and NATO say Russia has moved ground troops into Western Syria.

STOLTENBERG: We are seeing a substantial military buildup by Russia in Syria both in the air with combat planes and air defense systems, but also

an increasing number of ground troops.

GORANI: Yet another ratcheting of military action that threatens to bring two of the world's biggest militaries into direct confrontation in the

Middle East.


GORANI: Let's get more on Russian actions in Syria. We turn now to CNN military analyst and retired U.S. Army Commanding General, Mark Hurtling,

he joins us via Skype from Orlando, Florida.

Well it seems like everyone now is involved in some way or another, the major actors inside Syria here. What do you - what do you think the bigger

picture is here for Russia? What is it trying to achieve.

MARK HERTLING, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Well I think it's not just Russia Hala, I also think you have to include Iran into this equation.


HERTLING: Russia has claimed and Mr. Putin and his defense minister have both claimed they have limited objectives in Syria and I think those

consist of securing the Alawite safe zone, defeating the armed opposition and you rightly pointed out this isn't just ISIS terrorists, this is what

Bashar al Assad considers all terrorists in this case and that's the armed opposition to his government.

And then finally part of their operational objective is to secure the eastern area of the country so ISIS can't get into Damascus and this

Alawite safe zone. That's what Russia wants to do.

GORANI: Yes, OK. So we're seeing that perhaps take shape. But I mean when you look overall strategically at what Russia is doing agree with it or not

depending on what side of this conflict you're on, they really are shaping events inside Syria in ways the U.S. has not been able to over the last

more than a year of bombing ISIS targets.

HERTLING: Yes, much more than just Syria too I would suggest Hala. You're not only talking about strengthening their position in Syria with their

ally but they're also strengthening their position in the Mediterranean and they're distracting the west from what they've done in Ukraine.

So they are in fact really strengthening their position overall while showing the west doesn't have that much strategic power right now to

counter what they're doing.

GORANI: So what are the options for those who oppose the Russian military involvement inside Syria? I'm speaking of course of the United States, also

Turkey, also Gulf countries like Saudi Arabia and others. What options are open to them now?

HERTLING: Yes, it's a very tough position because we have not used military power and Mr. Putin was banking on that. I also think he's trying to tweak

NATO a little bit as we saw with the flights into Turkish airspace this weekend. So when you ask what are the options, right now not much. But I

think this is all short-term gain for Mr. Putin. And from a long-term perspective, from a strategic perspective, this is worsening the situation

and I think he's going to suffer in that regard. Not only internationally but also within his own country. Popular support is not very strong behind

this new adventure into Syria.

GORANI: OK, but this - is this - I mean the fact that so much more involvement coming from Russia is certainly materializing in front of our

very eyes.


GORANI: And also perhaps a response from Gulf countries that are saying they might also join the fight with more strikes, the U.S. continuing its

anti-ISIS strikes inside Syria.

I mean is this going to spiral out of control and prolong the war or will this bring it to a head and force everyone to try to come up with some sort

of solution?

HERTLING: My personal belief is that this will prolong the war and make matters worse.

What you're talking about in terms of securing this Alawite safe zone, you're only talking about 10% of the Syrian population. The other 90% or so

are Sunnis and they are the ones who have been creating the refugee crisis in Europe and have been causing problems.


HERTLING: So you're going to see a backlash not only on other Sunni backed middle eastern countries but you're also going to see concern from NATO,

especially Turkey. You're going to see concern from Israel.

So I think Russia's action as the President has said are going to make matters worse. It's a short-term gain on Mr. Putin's point and I think he's

really going to stir the pot and creating more problems than he's solving by this adventure in Syria.


GORANI: All right, we'll see in fact how it turns out for Russian interest. But as you - as you point out it's the entire country that's suffering from

this and causing so many refugees and so much misery.


GORANI: Thanks very much General Mark Hertling, in Orlando, Florida, we always appreciate your analysis on the program.

Turning now to a tragic case involving gun violence in the United States, yet another one.

Police in the southern state of Tennessee say an 11 year old boy shot and killed an 8 year old girl. Lynda Kincade has the story of another

community devastated by gun violence.


LYNDA KINCADE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: One child is dead, another charged with first degree murder in a small town in Tennessee, two families

ruined by gun violence.

CHASITY ARWOOD, NEIGHBOR: My heart's aching because a little girl lost her life really young. But my heart's aching too because a little boy's having

to go through what he's having to go through.

KINCADE: The mother of 8 year old MaKayla Dyer says her daughter was asked by an 11 year old boy if he could see her puppies. She said no and was shot


Police say the fifth grader took his father's shot gun to shoot her. MaKayla's mother claims the boy had bullied her daughter. At the place in

White Pine where MaKayla took her last breath neighbors cover the blood.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After the rescue workers, the sheriff department and everybody left there was still a spot on the ground, so we're covering it

up to keep the animals away.

KINCADE: According to a 2014 study by Yale University around 7,000 people under the age of 20 are treated for firearm injuries in the United States

in 2009, roughly 20 a day. Another 3,000 died before reaching an emergency room.

The mortality rate from guns in the U.S. is ten times higher for young people compared to other developed nations. In this case the boy is

scheduled to be tried in a juvenile court. A judge could determine if the case is moved to an adult court.

ED MILLER, PUBLIC DEFENDER: The court has ordered my client detained until the hearing in this matter. The hearing has been set for October 28th.

KINCADE: MaKayla was described by her school principal as a beautiful little girl and a great student.

Lynda Kincade, CNN.


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This is The World Right Now, coming up. The horrific use of rape and slavery as a weapon of war.



GORANI: We'll speak with some Yazidi girls who endured some difficult to imagine trauma to the hands of ISIS. We'll be right back.




GORANI: All this week CNN's Freedom Project is bringing you special reports that highlight the scourge of modern day slavery. We're exposing this week

the inhumane treatment of Yazidi women and girls in Iraq and Syria.

Today's story focuses on the barbaric use of rape as a weapon of war and we warn you this material is very disturbing and may not be suitable for all

viewers. Here's CNN's Atika Shubert.


ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The refugee camps of Duhok are filled with stories like this. Women and girls bought and sold.

Sometimes for money, given as gifts, bartered for weapons, one of them was (Nor).

(NOR), YAZIDI REFUGEE: (As translated) We sat and chat, one man picked me, he was old, ugly and fat. I was scared. There were some other ISIS fighters

so I begged quickly to one of them please, take me - take me anywhere and marry me if you want but take me away from this one. So he did.

SHUBERT: (Nor) is not her real name, she and two others spoke to CNN, we are not identifying them for their own safety. (Nor) says she was not

raped that day but two days later the fighter returned from the frontline.

(NOR): He showed me a letter and said this shows any captured women will become Muslim if 10 ISIS fighters rape her.

SHUBERT: Then (Nor) says, he raped her. After that, he gave her to his friends. She says each one raped her.

How many men did he pass you to?

(NOR): I was passed on to 11 others.

SHUBERT: That's very difficult for anyone to hear, man or woman. (Maneera) fidgets next to (Nor). She still remembers her father wearing his name on

her arm, a homemade tattoo. She used a sewing needle and a pen while waiting to be sold.

Do you know if they paid for you as well?

(MANEERA): I was given as a price to another ISIS fighter. Twice. And the second time I was traded for another girl.

SHUBERT: (Inaudible) says ISIS was so intent on using rape and slavery as a weapon of war that they brought their own doctors, gynecologists to

determine which women were virgins and which were pregnant. (Inaudible) says she witnessed two doctors invasively examine the girls.

(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): One of my friend was pregnant, a child was about three months in the womb. They took her into another room with the two

doctors and they did the abortion. Afterwards they brought her back. I asked her what happened and how they did it. She said the doctors told her

not to speak.

SHUBERT: Was she bleeding a lot?


SHUBERT: Was she in a lot of pain?

(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): Yes, she could not talk or walk.

SHUBERT: How many women did this happen to?

(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): She was the first, after that they took the pregnant women and put them in a separate house.

SHUBERT: Days later (Busra) found a bottle of pills and swallowed them all hoping to end her life rather than become a victim of rape, but she


(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE): One day, there were 14 girls with me, they tried to kill themselves by drinking rat poison but they took them to the hospital

and cleaned their stomach. They told us we will not let you die so easy.

SHUBERT: As difficult as these stories are to hear, these are the lucky ones, they managed to escape. There are hundreds that still remain enslaved

by ISIS. (Nor, Maneera, and Busra) told us they want their stories to reveal the truth about ISIS to help those left behind.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Duhok in the Kurdish region of Iraq.



GORANI: Some Yazidi women are fighting back against ISIS forming a volunteer force led by a singer turned soldier. Here's a preview of

tomorrow's report.


SHUBERT: The Sun Brigade is made of women, Yazidi women, a special unit at (Peshmerga) Kurdish forces. Most have never even held a gun but there is no

shortage of volunteers.


GORANI: Well, we're going to have a lot more of course as I mentioned tomorrow. Do stay tuned. And also stay with us, a very quick break here on

The World Right Now, we'll be right back.




GORANI: Usually the discovery of a rat is not something to celebrate, quite the opposite, unless however, unless, it is a new species. That's what we

have here this evening.


GORANI: Researchers in Indonesia have discovered the hog-nosed rat in a remote area on the island of Sulawesi. It looks a bit like a typical rat

with perhaps a (inaudible) nose.

The new species certainly resembles a hog. One researcher says he was amazed to find a unique species never documented by science.


GORANI: Now for something you don't see every day in front of your house; a moose fight. A father and son captured the battle on camera in where else?

Alaska. Jeanne Moos has the story and the video.


JEANNE MOOS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Put up your dukes, make that your antlers, a fight over a female in mating season spilled onto the

streets of suburban Anchorage, Alaska, recorded by a father and son hiding behind a car.

When the moose brawl got too close for comfort the driver of the car fled and Bill and Josh Tyror had to head for higher ground.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I filmed a lot of that video from about right here.

MOOS: Where they had front row seats. At least these two weren't as dumb as the Colorado moose that tried to mate with bronze moose statue, not since

two Kangaroos faced off near Sydney, Australia, have we seen such a wild kingdom Donnybrook in a suburban setting.

The guy who shot this said it's a "nutcracker" which made sense since that's were many of the kicks were aimed, using both legs weight resting on

their tails.

Back at the moose fight, the struggle intensified.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One was just like carrying the other one all the way across the street.

MOOS: And that's pretty much how it ended with the alpha moose giving the evil eye as his rival hightailed it away. They left behind scattered moose


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I collected this.

MOOS: The two did manage to bang into the Subaru parked in the driveway leaving a dent or two.

Have no fear insurance agents assure us that as long as the motorist has comprehensive coverage moose damage will be covered. But when the top

moose went to claim his prize after all that work what did the female do? She vamoosed.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.


GORANI: This has been the World Right Now, I'm Hala Gorani, see you tomorrow, thanks for watching. Quest Means business next.