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[08:00:12] KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream. Now, Sweden tightens its border controls as

European leaders struggle to cope with the migrant crisis. We are live from the shores of

Greece where more people are arriving daily.

Plus Kurdish forces launch an offensive against ISIS in Iraq in an effort to take control of Sinjar and cut off a crucial ISIS supply line.

Also ahead, some Instagram users are being warned to change their passwords. Find out if you are one of them.

European and African leaders have just wrapped up the second and final day of talks in Malta over how to cope with spiraling number of migrants

flooding Europe's shores. Now, it is the sixth time the EU has come together to try to

hammer out a solution, but this time they are looking to Africa for help.

Now, the bloc is giving nearly $2 billion in aid to African nations. Now, the emergency funds are to be used to support repatriation programs

and finance a crackdown on human smuggling rings.

Now in a moment we'll take you live to Greece where Arwa Damon and her team have been reporting on the influx of new arrivals arriving there. But

right now at the moment in Iraq, Kurdish forces are fighting to reclaim the town of Sinjar from ISIS with thousands of Peshmerga they have launched the

offensive with air support from coalition forces.

Now they have recaptured several villages near the strategically important town.

Now for the latest on the ground, our senior international correspondent Nick Paton Walsh joins me now from outside Sinjar. Nick,

this has been called Operation Free Sinjar. They are determined to capture it. What's the latest?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So far today, definitely progress, certainly to the west where we have been. They have

managed to gain, as they admit, one village and control of the road that I'm standing on here.

But we hear the crackle of gunfire both further down the road here and behind me as well. Still very volatile.

There are still potentially 300 ISIS fighters inside Sinjar center. You can see that as part of the black smoke that fills the sky behind me.

That's been there for most of the day, often peppered, too, with lighter smoke from coalition airstrikes as well.

But the key question is how quickly this can wrap up? They have had the assistance of coalition air power pretty much all day. And it lit up

the skies last night and has been in evidence for the past three days as well.

But there are, as I say, hard core fighters inside that town.

Now, it's symbolically vital, of course, because it's sort of a way, I think, the international community and the Peshmerga of righting the wrong

of what happened to the Yazidi residents of this town in the past year when they were pushed out brutally by ISIS, many enslaved, many forced into

captivity.

But this is vital as a town as well, because where I am standing, this main road, that way is Raqqa, which is the self-declared capital in Syria.

That way if you keep going through Sinjar is Mosul, the key city they took in Iraq.

So, a vital moment here potentially for the Peshmerga who have seized this road, it seems.

They want to hold on to it. It looks like they may be able to do that given the sheer volume of individuals they have here.

I can't give you our exact location, because of the rules we agreed to when coming along with the Peshmerga on this offensive, but so far today

they do appear to have some success, although an element of pessimism, frankly, that the hours they hope they can wrap this up and simply isn't

going to happen, because of the volume of booby traps, mines, roadside bombs they have encountered on the roads around this area -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, I wanted to ask you more about that as you point out this is a vital moment for Kurdish fighters as they attempt to retake

Sinjar, but what are they up against and what is ISIS doing to resist and hold on to their advance? In addition to, as you point out, the booby

traps.

WALSH: So far we have seen today a vast amount of coalition air power being used right far out west from the city it seems, hammering ISIS it

must in that particular area. Now, that appears to have stemmed their moves down the west of the city. But ISIS still have adequate numbers

inside the city to hold them out, but also, frankly, that way not very far you have ISIS sympathetic villages, we are

told, by Peshmerga here.

So, the real question always is when ISIS appear to melt away in the early stages of an offensive, is that the sum total of their desire to

defend the area they have, or are they waiting for a better moment? Will tonight bring worse news for the Peshmerga? Or is there something else

they intend to do like perhaps just allow themselves to get drawn into lengthy urban warfare in the center of Sinjar. Behind me, a densely packed

series of streets.

Reminds me of Kobani, frankly, pushing out hard on ISIS fighters from there will be a nightmare, Kristie.

[08:05:18] LU STOUT: All right, Nick Paton Walsh, reporting on the front line with Kurdish forces. Many thanks indeed for that update.

Now, let's return to Europe's efforts to cope with its migration crisis. Now, Arwa Damon is on the Greek island of Lesbos, it's where

refugees have been arriving in a steady stream, including today. And Arwa, what have you witnessed earlier today?

ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A number of ships, boats if one can even call them that, more like rubber dinghies packed with

migrants and refugees did arrive on this shoreline throughout the hours of the morning, not necessarily in the volume that volunteers here have seen

in years past, but coming from Turkey, which you can see very clearly in the distance. It takes about two hours for them to get here, but of course

these waters continue to be deadly, not necessarily because they themselves pose a danger, but because these rubber dinghies that the smugglers pack --

I mean, pack these refugees and migrants into end up sinking, their motors end up failing, and they are also being captained by

usually one of the refugees or migrants themselves.

You can see there one that arrived earlier on these shores this morning. And then you have what has been set up here as something of a

reception center. This is mostly a volunteer effort being undertaken by and large by a Greek lifeguard group of volunteers.

They are -- a lot of them from Athens. They have left their jobs, they've left their studies and they've come here to try to give their time

to help those refugees and migrants when they do first arrive. And a massive pile of life jackets. And this is just a fraction of what you will

find scattered along this entire shoreline. Those who do come, their faces just etched in relief, Kristie, the children appearing to recover slightly

quicker than the adults from the trauma of having made it across.

And this is really just the beginning of their journey. You mentioned the big Malta conference happening there between various EU and African

leaders. At the end of that, a sizable sum of money, some $1.8 plus billion being pledged to try to help various African nations cope with the

problem to crack down on smugglers to help them try to implement various different economic programs that will perhaps stem the flow of migrants

from there.

But that also has its own set of very serious and real problems and that a lot of these various African countries are very corrupt and they are

absolutely no guarantees that they will be able to implement the kind of economic

opportunities that they will end the oppression that is driving people out of Africa. And that in and of itself is a very separate set of problems to

the one that we see in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, where those countries' people are all facing war zones, fleeing literally for their lives.

So when we talk about the problem of migration and refugees, it's really one that European international leaders are going to have to begin

to address the very core causes and that at this stage and we're not really seeing that happening just yet.

LU STOUT: And let's talk more about the child migrants, the child refugees who are involved in this just massive human crisis, because just a

few hours ago, you and your producer, you captured this heartbreaking moment: two little boys in tears, clutching each other, clinging on to each

other. The moment after they made it to land, I mean, such at young a age to experience this. What is it like?

DAMON: And there are so many like them. Those were two boys, they were from Afghanistan. And in that moment where producer (inaudible) did

take that photograph. They seemed of have in the chaos, because it is chaotic when these boats come to shore, temporarily lost their mother. And

you do see scenes like that unfolding where the boats arrive, people are trying to jump off the boats. Medical teams are coming in trying to help

them out, especially trying to keep the kids warm, because to protect them the parents will put them at the bottom

of these rubber dinghies, but that's also where a lot of the water does tend to come in so you'll see the medical teams really rushing to their

assistance, trying to warm them up.

You do see cases like those caught in that photograph of children being separated from their parents.

And when you speak to them, I mean, it is just so phenomenally traumatic. This is such a dangerous part of the journey.

In fact, just yesterday 18 people, including children, lost their lives in these very same waters. That is something that weighs so heavily

on the parents. And did see the mother of those two children afterwards still seeming to be in shock. She was shaking slightly as well almost as

if she was trying to just recuperate and come to her senses.

We saw a number of Syrian families that arrived here in a larger boat as well. Even though they had come in a sturdier boat, they were still

traumatized but also elated at the fact they had made it alive because etched in every single

parents' mind who makes this journey is the image of the children -- the lifeless children's bodies who have washed ashore in both Turkey and Greece

as their parents tried to make this trip.

[08:10:41] LU STOUT: Yeah, it is such a treacherous journey, but this is the risk that they are willing to make just to make it to some sort of a

safe haven.

Arwa Damon, reporting live for us for the Greek island of Lesbos. Many thanks indeed for your reporting all day today. And take care.

Now, the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, he has just touched down in the UK. And he is looking to use his three day visit to lock down trade

deals worth billions when he meets with his British counterpart David Cameron.

Now, the Indian leader is to also meet the queen and hold a rally Wembley Stadium more than 50,000 supporters.

But it's not all a warm welcome. Now, some in London they plan to protest saying he is not doing enough to stop the violence between Hindus

and Muslims.

Now to Indonesia now. And a high profile visit from Australia's new prime minister. The bilateral talks billed as a diplomatic reset, or a

chance to mend relations.

Now, the two countries that have had their share of sharp disagreements. And David Molko reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DAVID MOLKO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was all smiles and handshakes for Australia's prime minister and Indonesia's president as they stuck to their

script of putting aside past differences.

Malcolm Turnbull and President Joko Widodo, or Jokowi as he's known, highlighting common ground.

They are meeting at the presidential palace in Jakarta, described as Jokowi as productive and friendly and focusing largely on plans to boost

trade and investment.

There was no mention of the executions of two convicted Australian drug traffickers in April, members of the so-called Bali Nine. And neither

leader brought up what's perhaps the most sensitive issue between these neighbors, Australia's controversial policy when it comes to migrants, one

that calls for boats to be towed back and for asylum seekers who land to be sent to off shore detention centers.

It's a legacy of Turnbull's predecessor Tony Abbott, and one that was heavily

criticized earlier this week by the UN Human Rights Council.

Australia maintains its burn back policy has deterred would-be smugglers and saved lives by discouraging people from attempting the trip.

Turnbull is setting foot on the world stage on the first time since he became prime minister in September. He heads to Berlin next then to the

G20 in Turkey.

David Molko, CNN, Hong Kong.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: All right, coming up on News Stream, Amnesty International accuses China of using torture to force confessions. We'll be speaking to

one of the researchers of this disturbing new report.

Now also ahead, Russia orders an investigation to allegations of doping by its elite athletes.

And with Aung San Suu Kyi's party heading for victory, U.S. President Barack Obama congratulates Myanmar's president on this country's landmark

election.

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[08:16:05] LU STOUT: All right, live pictures from London of the welcoming ceremony underway. It's happening outside the foreign and

commonwealth office. Narenda Modi being formally welcomed by the British prime minister David Cameron.

Now Modi just touched down in the UK. He is looking to use his three day visit there to lock down trade deals worth billions when he meets with

his British counterpart. Now pretty soon after this welcoming ceremony, he will indeed go to 10 Downing Street for a meeting with Mr. Cameron.

Now Narenda Modi is also to meet with the queen and he will also hold a rally at Wembley Stadium with more than 50,000 supporters.

Live pictures there of the welcoming ceremony underway for the Indian leader Narenda Modi who has just touched down there in London.

Now, Amnesty International has released a damning new report on China's

criminal justice system. It alleges that torture and forced confessions are rampant and that lawyers' attempts to raise or investigate claims are

thwarted by police, prosecutors and the court.

It says lawyers are often threatened, harassed, detained or even tortured themselves.

Now the Amnesty International report also outlines a new form of detention. It's where people can be kept incommunicado for months at a

time. And one of the authors is China researcher William Nee who joins me now live.

William, what other techniques, what other tools are being used in China for torture and for forced confessions? What are you learned?

WILLIAM NEE, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL: Well, I think we have learned that some of the most common techniques are

sleep deprivation, just not allowing people in pre-trial detention to sleep for extended periods of time, or interrogations that go on and on.

Sometimes we've heard cases of 18 hours, day in, day out, these are very common.

But in terms of the tools, China has a whole industry dedicated to producing tools for law enforcement, some of which are valid, but some of

which are not valid just as electronic stun batons. There's things called tiger benches where you sit back on a chair and put your legs out on a

bench and then bricks will be under your feet causing extreme stress to your knees and pain -- and people are subjected to this for long periods of

time.

There's also restraint chairs, iron chairs that are very uncomfortable, weighted leg cuffs, weighted handcuffs and then also these

probably the worst is these iron chairs in which there's no restraint back and you're off the ground. And so you're tied to the chair as well and it

causes extreme discomfort and lawyers and people who have ended pretrial detention have been subjected to these types of torture devices.

This continues to happen even though China's torture problem is well known and there have been steps to address it in recent years.

LU STOUT: And is this widespread? I mean, where do these alleged beatings and acts of torture take place?

NEE: From our research, it is widespread. It's happening all over the country and especially to people who are perceived as troublemakers or

political dissidents. It's very common in pretrial detention. And that's because the system

still puts so much emphasis on confessions. And the police, in order to get those confessions, will torture people or subject them to other forms

of ill-treatment. And these forced confessions then become the basis of evidence in court.

So this is very common. We talked to 37 lawyers who are some of the few lawyers who are willing to bring up these cases and ten of them in fact

were tortured.

So China to make matters worse has launched an unprecedented crackdown on human rights lawyers targeting over 250, 28 are still in detention.

Some of those in the secret detention that you mentioned.

[08:20:00] LU STOUT: And separately, William, I wanted to get your thoughts on these reports out there of four Hong Kong publishers known for

books critical of Beijing. These individuals have gone missing. Now, they all live in Hong Kong. They were recently traveling to places like

Thailand, but they're missing. What happened to them?

NEE: Well, I think the facts in this are still unclear. It's very suspicious that the four went missing all at the same time, two apparently

in the mainland China, one apparently in Hong Kong, one in Thailand. And they were about to produce a book about the government, obviously about

sensitive material, and this fits a pattern of cracking down on these type of books that speculate or produce prohibited material that you can't find

in China, but you can find in Hong Kong in every book store.

So, it's a very worried time for freedom of expression in Hong Kong. And it's also very worrying to see this potentially international --

creeping internationalization of the attacks on human rights defenders and freedom of

expression.

There have been other incidents in Thailand, incidents in Myanmar and elsewhere.

LU STOUT: Yeah, very disturbing report of Chinese dissidents being targeted overseas. And of course this latest report from Amnesty, your

group, on torture and these forced confessions inside the country. William Nee reporting live, or joining me live. Many thanks indeed for that.

Now, you're watching News Stream. And coming up next, the app popularized the filtered square photos on social media. Now, Instagram

looks to take image sharing to the next level.

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[08:25:25] LU STOUT: Went from a photo sharing startup to one of the biggest

image apps in the world. Now Instagram is celebrating 400 million users who upload 80 million photos and videos a day. And five years after its

launch, Instagram is setting its sights on the next generation of image sharing: virtual reality.

Laurie Segall has more from Instagram founder Mike Krieger.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

LAURIE SEGALL, CNNMONEY CORRESPONDENT: Last time I interviewed you was years ago before you guys sold to Facebook. This was huge for the

startup community. What was it like signing papers that day?

MIKE KRIEGER, CO-FOUNDER, INSTAGRAM: Obviously a huge decision. The thing we were reflecting on at the time was we wanted Instagram to live on

and continue to succeed and grow and that was our baby.

And so when we did the deal with Facebook, we were excited because we would really get to see that and see it continue to grow and prosper.

SEGALL: We recently saw this Australian model come out and say she's getting off Instagram because she said social media life isn't real and I

was trying to be this person I wasn't on Instagram.

What's your message for some of those people?

KRIEGER: I think all social media is editing, right, when you're putting yourself out there whether you're writing or whether you're posting

photos, you're choosing what you post. And so there's always that aspect of that. And, you know, there are examples of folks that do take it very

seriously and try to present an angle, but also others that use something like Instagram that show real struggles that they are going through, maybe

an eating disorder, and you know get support and communicate through Instagram.

I think those things counterbalance each other.

SEGALL: When did you realize that this was going to be something big?

KRIEGER: About a week in when things were taking off, we had about 100,000 people sign up. It took me another three or four months before I

really started seeing that it wasn't people just were coming through the door, they were staying around. That, for me, a startup when you are

building a startup is the truest sign of success, not to be able to get people in but getting them to retain.

SEGALL: five years later, you have this massively successful company. When you look back, what do you want to remember?

KRIEGER: I think just the fact that success is never guaranteed. And in those early years, there was a lot of articles about us at the time,

like, oh this will be gone in a month. And I was like oh maybe it will be gone in a month.

So I think never taking for granted that we put a lot of work into this and also had a lot of luck and came out really well on the other side.

SEGALL: One of the more interesting things to think about you is that you might not even have been able to start Instagram.

You are from Brazil. You are having trouble getting an H1B. What would have happened?

KRIEGER: I thought about it a lot. I would have stayed at the startup I was working at before and not gotten to do the Instagram thing.

That was something I was really excited about, or I would have to go home to Brazil and things are finally getting a little bit more entrepreneurial

there, but it would have been a very a different climate.

SEGALL: when you look at the future of Instagram, if there was one feature

that you could add, that you say I really want us to have this, what would it be?

KRIEGER: One of the things I was prototyping was the ability to teleport anywhere in the world to say like what's going on right now in

Paris and like what are people posting about there.

SEGALL: I like this idea of teleportation, right. Would you guys work with the Oculus team?

KRIEGER: Yeah. I mean, that would be amazing as well, yeah. We have, you know, 80 million photos uploaded every day from all around the

world to be able to say, oh, like what is it like actually to stand on the street corner and get a sense of the world from there from sights and

sounds.

SEGALL: Like a filter too.

KRIEGER: Maybe with a filter.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: And that was CNNMoney's Laurie Segall interviewing the founder of

Instagram in a bar no less.

Now Instagram and Oculus are both owned by Facebook and knowing who views your Instagrams, that is key to building up popularity. Insta agent

was an app that would let you do that, except it got yanked by Apple after it got caught

stealing Instagram passwords.

Now, the breach was caught by a 10th grader in Germany. As many as 500,000 people had downloaded Insa agent before it was shut down. And

users have been warned to change their passwords.

You're watching News Stream. Still to come, denials from Russia about a proposal to end the conflict in Syria and move it toward a presidential

election.

And the ballot counting is wrapping up in Myanmar's landmark election. The latest numbers, straight ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[08:32:40] LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream and these are your world headlines.

Now, Kurdish forces have launched an offensive to recapture the Iraqi town of Sinjar from ISIS. They already say they have claimed several

villages near Sinjar. They're fighting force includes thousands of Yazidis and air support from coalition war planes.

Now European and African leaders have wrapped up talks in Malta on the migrant crisis that is affecting both continents. The EU is offering up $2

billion in African nations to help stem the flow of refugees into Europe. Now the emergency funds are to be used by African leaders to support repatriation

programs and finance a crackdown on human smuggling rings.

Indian Prime Minister Narenda Modi is in the UK. He is looking to land trade deals worth billions and talks with the British Prime Minister

David Cameron. Now some activitsts in London planned to protest saying that he is not doing enough to stop Hindu extremist attacks on Muslims.

Athens police fire tear gas at demonstrators marching in anti- austerity protests. Now thousands filled the streets as part of a 24-hour strike called

by Greek unions. Now marchers are protesting new cuts under Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras.

Now Russia denies a Reuters report that it has a draft plan aimed at ending the conflict in Syria. Now Reuters reports it outlines a process

that would end with a presidential election 18 months and does not exclude President Bashar al-Assad from running.

Now for more our senior international correspondent Fred Pleitgen joins us now live from London. And Fred, Reuters is standing by this

report, Russia denies it. So what is the real picture here?

FRED PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it looks like the truth lies somewhere in the middle, Kristie. It looks like this is

probably not something like a rigid peace plan that Russians are putting forward or a diplomatic plan, but more like working ideas that were

circulated at the United Nations of course first and foremost ahead of the meeting that's going to take place starting tomorrow in Vienna for the

second time is going to bring pretty much all of the international actors involved in trying to bring the Syrian crisis to an

end together. They are in Vienna to and move forward.

Now there were some points in there that are being hotly contested now internationally apparently in that document. One of them is that the

Russians want a constitutional process, so they want a constitutional committee that

will work for about 18 months to try and reform Syria's constitution. And the big about that is they don't want Bashar al-Assad to be part of that

constitutional committee.

Now, however, at the end of that process after about 18 months, they want a

referendum and then early presidential elections and they have specifically not ruled out Bashar al-Assad participating in those early elections. That

is certainly something that has the forces opposed to Bashar al-Assad up in arms at this point in time. Diplomatic progress of course very difficult

as it is. And that's certainly not something that's going to make it any easier, Kristie.

[08:35:34] LU STOUT: That's right, the future of Bashar al-Assad indeed a complicating factor and it's going to be complicating talks as

leaders meet again in Vienna. Fred Pleitgen, joining me live. Many thanks indeed for that.

Now, with a deadline looming, over his country, President Vladimir Putin has ordered an investigation into alleged doping among Russian

athletes and coaches.

Now, the scandal could lead to Russia being banned from international competitions. The all-Russian athletics federation has until today to

respond to the allegations of widespread doping, then track and field's governing body will decide what to do.

Now, Mr. Putin has pledged cooperation. And World Sport will have more on this story shortly.

Now U.S. President Barack Obama has called the president of Myanmar to congratulate him on the country's landmark parliamentary election. The

ballot counting is still wrapping up. But Aung San Suu Kyi's National League of Democracy

Party appears set for a solid victory.

Now, Myanmar's president says he will meet with Suu Kyi once the election process settles down. Now she's barred from becoming president by

the country's constitution because her family members have foreign passports.

Now, here is a look at how the NLD success is shaping up at this hour. So far, the party has won 291 of the 359 seats declared in parliament. It

needs 38 more seats to win a majority.

Now you're watching News Stream and still ahead on the program, we continue our special on the road series in Indonesia.

Next, we head to a group of islands trying to make tourism more sustainable.

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LU STOUT: All this week we have been on the road in Indonesia. And now we continue the journey by heading off road to three small islands not

only known for their sandy beaches, but also for their ban on cars.

Paula Newton takes us off the beaten path to the Gili Islands.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Could we possibly be on the

road in Indonesia, a country of 13,000 islands and not go to the beach?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Gili Island is paradise.

NEWTON: Gabril Samba (ph) first stepped foot on the island in 1996. 19 years later Sam, his nicknamed with the locals here, is a hotelier and

our key to the Gili way of life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Island life is very simple: this is real life. We don't talk about any political issue, nothing on the island, no, not

important.

NEWTON: These three small islands off the coast of Lumbak (ph) have their own unique appeal starting with the most noticeable. Engines of any

kind have been banned here. The only way to navigate these sandy shores is bicycle or even better, a horse drawn cart.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Many, many years ago, we be set up. We call it (inaudible) or island regulation, which is saying no stealing allowed on

the islands, no fighting allowed on the island. But every day the team, the people in Gili, because they feel responsible a lot with the Gili so

they're thinking every single day what to do.

The best part of Gili.

NEWTON: There are no official police officers on the islands, it's all part of a lifestyle governed by the locals to maintain their piece of

paradise. It's no surprise the Gilis have lured tourists in beyond the beaches of Bali.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Suddenly tourists coming to Gili facing the local with completely no regulation. So the people itself making regulation,

this is our place. We have to take care of our place.

NEWTON: Tourism is the life blood of the Gilis, but it's a challenge to the island way of life. As the sunsets over Gili T (ph), the largest

island, it beckons more and more tourists, and yes, there's a hangover.

Just one headache, the hundreds of bottles left behind after a long night at the many bars and clubs that line the street here. Even with

recycling, Deliphine Rob (ph) find purpose. A longtime local, she's made preserving the Gili way one of her many missions as part of the Gili

Ecotrust. Working with a team she collects and recycles thousands of bottles a day. The bottles are crushed into sand, the sand used to make

more than 500 kilograms of recycled bricks each day.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The locals are supportive and usually they recognize everything we're doing is for something good for the future.

NEWTON: The Gilis have global resonance beyond Indonesia as they try to build a model of ecotourism built on local consensus and a reverence for

the island's many charms.

Paula Newton CNN, Gili Travangan (ph), Indonesia.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: A very unique paradise.

And that is News Stream. I'm Kristie Lu Stout. And World Sport with Amanda Davies is next.

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