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Clinton Wins Iowa Caucus with Razor-Thin Margin; Marco Capitalizing on 3rd-Place Finish with Trump 2nd, Technology Changing Sports for Disabled Athletes. Aired 2:30-3p ET
Aired February 02, 2016 - 14:30 ET
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[14:31:44] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Bottom of the hour. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Thank you for being with me.
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders will face off tomorrow night in a CNN Democratic town hall, their first meeting since Iowa voter officially kicked off the presidential election.
Just a short time ago, Clinton was declared the winner in Iowa by a razor thin margin. Both candidates already pounding the trail in New Hampshire.
For his part, Senator Sanders tells CNN he's ready for more.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I), VERMONT & DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We started that campaign, you know, 40, 50 points behind. Whether we lose by a fraction of a point or we win, whatever, we're very proud of the campaign that we won. I think the significance is that for folks who did not think Bernie Sanders could win, that we could compete against Hillary Clinton, I hope that that thought is now gone. We're going to fight really hard in New Hampshire. And then we're going to Nevada, we're going to South Carolina. We look forward to doing well around the country. I think you will find as we get to South Carolina and other states that when the African-American community, the Latino community, looks at our record, looks at our agenda, we're going to get more and more support.
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BALDWIN: Meantime, Hillary Clinton galvanized supporters in New Hampshire today with a "get out the vote" rally.
Joining me now, Kristina Schake, the deputy communications director from Hillary for America.
Nice to see you.
KRISTINA SCHAKE, DEPUTY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: Nice to see you.
BALDWIN: Your candidate and Senator Sanders kept a lot of people up very late last night.
SCHAKE: Kept you up very, very late.
BALDWIN: What a race.
SCHAKE: Yes.
BALDWIN: So you just heard from Senator Sanders. Listen, he says he will fight this and fight this. You know, we're about to move into his wheelhouse, his home turf, New Hampshire. His camp is saying they're requesting the actual count sheets in a number of precincts from Iowa. Your response?
SCHAKE: So our response is Hillary won the caucus last night. We are so proud. She is so grateful. It was a great win for her. She did an interview with Wolf today where she said she's competed in Iowa before, she's lost there, it felt a lot better to win. I have to say, I was with her last night in Iowa and this one was particularly meaningful for her because she has spent months campaigning in Iowa, really talking to people there. People shared their stories, their concerns, their struggles, their hopes what they need from the next president. What she heard over and over again is people can't wait. They don't need more rhetoric. They don't need gridlock in D.C. They need real results. When people took a look at her plans and took a look at her track record with real results, I have to say she was just thrilled.
BALDWIN: A lot of you all were worried about ghosts of 2008 past. I'm just curious, since you were with her, why so relieved since this was the narrowest of margins in history?
SCHAKE: Because she won. The truth is we always knew Iowa would be tough. A lot of Independent analysts said it would be tailor made for him. His campaign said if there was a big turnout, they were going to win. And that big turnout happened and Hillary Clinton won last night. We thing that's a really testament to people wanting the next president getting things done and we know she's the candidate who can do that.
BALDWIN: Looking ahead to New Hampshire, she's behind in New Hampshire. I'm wondering with the town hall tomorrow night here on CNN how she makes her move, how she truly creates an opening?
[14:35:09] SCHAKE: Well, the way Hillary always does. She gets to work. She talks to people. She talks about what she'd do as president. She is so happy to do the forum tonight on CNN. This is going to be a real contest of ideas there. You heard her say that's what she's going into New Hampshire to do. There are real differences between these candidates on how they would treat Obamacare, what their plans are to make college more affordable. She's ready to get out there in New Hampshire. She's going to work her heart out for the primary a week from today. She's going to do what Hillary Clinton does, get in there, talk with people, connect with people, share her plans and work her heart out.
BALDWIN: You mentioned some of the constituents though that the Sanders camp was banking on, the young, the youth vote. A lot of first-time caucus goers. No questions about, you know, being truthful and honest, where Bernie Sanders really sort of soared. I'm wondering with your candidate how she makes up that ground because he did have such a chunk of those voters.
SCHAKE: Well, you know, obviously some areas to grow and, you know --
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BALDWIN: How?
SCHAKE: When I have to say, I think a lot of this is the result that Hillary has just been under attack from Republicans for decades. I think some of this is a result of that. The Republicans don't want her elected. They don't like her progressive values. They don't like what she fights for. They certainly don't like how effective she is. They've done everything to try to undermine her. All of the candidates in this race on both sides have been. She's been that target.
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BALDWIN: But don't women -- young women especially. I mean, I went to a Bernie Sanders rally. They think they're going to see a woman in their lifetimes become president, so a lot of them are for Bernie.
SCHAKE: I have to say, having watched her interact with a lot of young people, it's interesting to me that they're so young that they actually don't know her history. They haven't seen her. They don't know she's been a fighter for women, for children, her entire life, and she has the endorsement of Planned Parenthood. She has the endorsement of the human rights campaign. Organizations that really mean something to young people. Because she's been at the front lines with these organizations, fighting on the issues that young people care about, they're standing with her and her presidency campaign. Because they know she'll be that fighter in the White House. So we've got some work to do to talk to young people about her values and what she'd do as president to make college more affordable, to help young people deal with college debt, but we're looking forward to making that case.
BALDWIN: Kristina Schake, thank you so much.
SCHAKE: Thank you so much.
BALDWIN: We will see you tomorrow night in New Hampshire for the town hall.
SCHAKE: Thank you so much.
BALDWIN: Thank you for that.
Coming up next, just because you win in Iowa, of course, does not mean at all you're guaranteed success in that next primary in New Hampshire, which, by the way, one week from today. We will show you why the two states differ so, and what strategies can win in next week's primary.
Also ahead, what is the Donald Trump campaign plan moving forward? We'll talk to a leader of Trump's campaign staff in New Hampshire.
CNN will be right back.
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[14:42:16] BALDWIN: Senator Ted Cruz may have won Iowa's Republican caucus last night but he's sharing the headlines today with Senator Marco Rubio. The senator set up expectations and he met them with his third-place finish. His address to supporters sure sounded like a victory speech.
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SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R), FLORIDA & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: For months they told us because we didn't have the right endorsements or the right political collections we had no chance. They told me that we had no chance because my hair wasn't gray enough and my boots were too high.
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CRUZ: They told me I needed to wait my turn, that I needed to wait in line.
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BALDWIN: Well, he may not be first in line, but he's in first place by a mile when it comes to the so-called insider candidates. You saw the top four Republicans from last night. We have to turn the page to see Bush, Kasich, Christie. But can Rubio capitalize in the very different state of New Hampshire?
In another headline here, Donald Trump not winning and tweeting about it.
Let's get to Lou Gargiulo, the Trump campaign co-chair for Rockingham County, New Hampshire; and CNN political commentator, S.E. Cupp.
Great to have both of you on.
Lou, to you first.
This was Trump's first election. The fact he placed second is commendable. He didn't tweet. He went dark on Twitter for something like 20 hours. Then he calls second place an honor. How do you think he will respond to what happened to him in Iowa as he moves to New Hampshire?
LOU GARGIULO, ROCKINGHAM COUNTY CO-CHAIR, TRUMP PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN: I think it will only - intensify Mr. Trump's desire to be the next president of the United States. I think that if you go back four or five months, there was very little expectation of him even placing in the top five in Iowa. And his second place finish in Iowa was truly commendable.
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BALDWIN: But he kept saying he was going to win. We heard a lot about winning from Mr. Trump.
GARGIULO: Oh, we did, but I also think that it was all driven by the polls, and a lot of it was driven by the media, who probably took the polls as gospel and I think --
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BALDWIN: No. I don't think we did that, for the record.
S.E. CUPP, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: So did Trump.
BALDWIN: Yeah.
Thank you, S.E. Cupp.
How many times did you see Trump saying, you know --
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CUPP: Talking about the polls.
BALDWIN: Talking about the polls.
CUPP: Not only that, Donald Trump was out every day saying, I'm going to win women, I'm going to win the black vote, I'm going to win the black vote, I'm going to win with everyone. This was not a media- driven phenomenon. This was the crux of Trump's campaign, he's going to win. So now I wonder if voters --
GARGIULO: I think Mr. Trump is going --
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CUPP: -- are maybe sort of wondering if that's just a lot of bravado and not reality.
BALDWIN: Go ahead, Lou. Respond to that.
[14:45:10] GARGIULO: I think Mr. Trump is going to win, and I think that Iowa, if one only looks at the history of Iowa, Iowa has not had a great deal with success in picking presidents. It picks corn very well but in terms of picking presidents, New Hampshire has had a much greater and more stellar record on its success in its primary in picking presidents. And I believe that next week we will see Mr. Trump not only do well but do exceptionally well in the New Hampshire primary.
BALDWIN: OK, I think Iowans may take issue with that because they do pick more than corn. But I see you point, that it doesn't necessarily indicate who wins the nomination.
Let me read this tweet from Mr. Trump. He tweeted, "I don't believe I have been given any credit by the voters for self-funding my campaign. The only one. I will keep doing, but not worth it."
S.E., what's that about?
CUPP: I don't know that anyone believes Donald Trump is anyone's victim or that we need to feel sorry for Donald Trump or give him more credit. Look, he has done a phenomenal job in this campaign. Anyone who says otherwise is not being honest. He's gone farther than many predicted. He's done things that would have been disqualifying for anyone else. Finishing second, had he not promised, to win in Iowa, would be impressive. I think what this does is turn New Hampshire, as Lou said, New Hampshire into a must-win for Donald Trump. If you can't get a "W" on the board as someone whose brand is winning, I think you're going to have a tough case, you know, making the rounds to the following states.
BALDWIN: Help us look ahead, Lou. I want you to tell me, give me a preview of -- since Marco Rubio was that third place finish in Iowa and is coming with a little bit of wind, you know, ahead to New Hampshire, what does a Rubio/Trump battle look like?
GARGIULO: I think a Rubio/Trump battle will be on the issues. I think experience certainly will be a big part of it. If one looks at Mr. Trump's experience in business as opposed to Senator Rubio who's been in government most of his life. I think there's a desire right now in the populous to have someone who's been outside of government in the most important role on the face of the earth and that's president of the United States. Mr. Trump has been able to build huge businesses, employ thousands and thousands of people, all of which are elements necessary if we're going to turn the country around. And I do think that Senator Rubio is a good man, but I do think his time has not come. I think he lacks the kind of experience. And we've been there. We've been there for the past seven years with the gentleman in President Obama who did not have the experience and who has stumbled in a whole variety of different areas. And with that said, I think that Senator Rubio could be in the same situation. I think highly of Senator Rubio but I don't think this is his time. And I think that the voting will prove that out very clearly.
BALDWIN: It's a battle to be fought. We'll be looking for it.
Quickly, S.E.
CUPP: There's some great news for Marco Rubio out of Iowa. He won among undecided, people who decided within just that week, especially where Trump and Cruz were dominating the headlines. Marco Rubio won a majority of those undecided voters. And he won Independents, which is big for New Hampshire, as anyone who spends time in New Hampshire knows. So I think Marco Rubio's got some serious play in New Hampshire, and especially if you can build off the momentum he got in Iowa for this week.
BALDWIN: New Hampshire, one week from today. CUPP: Amazing.
BALDWIN: S.E. Cupp, Lou Gargiulo, thank you.
CUPP: Sure.
GARGIULO: Thank you, Brooke.
BALDWIN: You've got it.
Moments from now, two candidates speaking live, including Bernie Sanders, responding for the very first time to Hillary Clinton's official win in Iowa. We'll take that live. Don't miss it.
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[14:53:03] BALDWIN: Amidst all this political news, let me remind you, there's a little bit of a football game happening. We're five days from the Super Bowl. With Silicon Valley so close to the game, we're looking today at how high-tech companies are changing sports.
CNN's Coy Wire, lucky man, is in San Francisco.
Nice to see you.
COY WIRE, CNN SPORT CORRESPONDENT: Nice to see you too, Brooke.
All week, we are highlighting some incredibly intelligent game changers in the world of sports technology. Today, we're introducing you to an inspiring maker, Dr. Rory Cooper, a Paralympics medalist, a bioengineer. Dr. Cooper's using technology to change the future of sport for disabled athletes.
Check this tech out in "Bleacher Report" by Intel.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And go.
DR. RORY COOPER, FOUNDER & DIRECTOR, PITTSBURGH'S HUMAN ENGINEERING RESEARCH LABORATORIES: By trying to do sport for the disability, we have that combination of technology and a person together to try to push limits of human capability.
WIRE: As founder of Pittsburgh's Human Engineering Research Laboratories, Dr. Cooper is developing cutting-edge technologies to enhance the performance of disabled athletes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Great. Nice job.
WIRE: Here, Cooper and his team use infrared cameras and sensors to track a wheelchair rugby player's movements.
COOPER: We use the same type of technology used in sports science or in making animated movies. We put markers to track the body motion, use that to optimize the body motion. WIRE: One day, Cooper says, the combination of robotics could
redefine the world of sports.
COOPER: I would say we're 10 years away before we really see this in sort of a rudimentary level in sport. I think you'll see this all the way up to the NBA and the NFL.
WIRE: At the age of 20, Cooper suffered a spinal cord injury while serving in the U.S. Army. An avid runner before the accident, he was determined to remain a competitor.
COOPER: Well, what sports did is help me grow, have a new healthy perception of health.
WIRE: Cooper pursued a degree in engineering, and before long, he was crafting his on racing wheelchairs, setting world medals and earning medals in the Paralympics.
COOPER: You guys ready?
WIRE: Now with a PhD and a 40,000-square-foot facility, Cooper continues to push technology forward so other disabled athletes can stay in the game.
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[14:55:24] WIRE: Dr. Cooper says that as this technology advances, any athlete, not just those with disabilities, could wear robotic prosthetics to make themselves stronger, faster, taller. Can you imagine athletes could become like cyborgs? Brooke, that is reimaging the future.
BALDWIN: I cannot. I cannot.
Very cool, Coy. Thank you so much.
Coy Wire, ahead of the Super Bowl in San Francisco for us.
WIRE: You're welcome.
BALDWIN: Thanks you.
Next, back to politic here. Bernie Sanders responds live for the very first time since Hillary Clinton officially declared the winner in Iowa.
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