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[11:16:45] BECKY ANDERSON CNN ANCHOR: All right good evening, you're watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me Becky Anderson, out of the

UAE at 16 minutes passed eight here.

Now, the race for the White House has moved on to the state of New Hampshire. But let's not forget about Iowa where Republican Donald Trump

got knocked down a touch or notch by rival Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio coming in third.


MARCO RUBIO, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDTE: Tonight is a victory for courageous Conservatives across Iowa and all across this great nation.


ANDERSON: On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton claimed a narrow victory over Bernie Sanders but CNN has not yet called that race.



So as I stand here tonight, breathing a big sigh of relief, thank you, Iowa.


ANDERSON: We have more highlights from the Iowa caucuses as they are known later in the show.

I want to get you there first, some of the other important stories that we are covering here on Connect the World.

And North Korea has indicated it is set to launch a satellite in the coming weeks.

Now it is the first official word from Pyongyang about its plans last-- and this happened within 2012. U.S. and others believe the launch was a cover

for a long range ballistic missile test.

At the time let's go to Paula Hancocks. She is in Seoul South Korea with more, Paula.

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well Becky, this is information we're getting now from the International Maritime Organization.

North Korea has warned them, giving them official warning that it will be putting up an earth observation satellite between the dates of the 8th and

the 25th of February. So it could be as early as next Monday that we see this launch, as you say, 2012 is the last time we saw this. They say they

put a satellite into space. They say it was for peaceful purposes, but many countries around the world including South Korea and The United States

simply don't believe them.

They believe it is a cover up for a testing of an intercontinental missile, a long range ballistic missile.

Now, we have the name from the IMO, they say it is called the kwangmyongsong the satellite that they would presumably, attempting to put

into orbit. It is the same name as we saw back in 2012. And interestingly it means in English, "Bright Star", which South Korea official says it's

the nickname for former leader Kim Jong-il the current leader's father. Bear in mind his birthday is in the middle of this launch window in the

16th February.

North Korea quite often celebrates the date of his birth, this could well be to mark that occasion. But clearly, it is going to anger the

international community. Becky.

ANDERSON: Paula, are the sanctions against North Korea that are in place and the threats of more to come having any impact?

HANCOCKS: Doesn't appear so at this point and I think that the problem is from the international community's point of view is that there is no

consensus at this point for sanctions that are in the works.

[11:19:59] It was just on January 6th when North Korea carried out its nuclear test, a test it claimed was a hydrogen bomb that that's been

disputed by other countries. And Beijing and Washington are not in agreement. Beijing doesn't want these strong sanctions that Washington and

Seoul and other countries are pushing for.

And certainly that is a problem and there's also a school thought here that Pyongyang might be thinking well, I'm in trouble anyway, why that I just go

ahead and do this rocket test which will benefit me in the long term and surely they'll only be one set of sanctions because these sanctions have

not been agreed on for the nuclear test at this point, so there is a thought that that's -- that could be what Kim Jong-un is thinking at this


But of course, there's also that congress a very special important congress coming up in May, it hasn't been held in Pyongyang since 1980. So Kim Jong-

un wants to go to this congress with a successful nuclear test under his belt and potentially, a successful satellite launch as well. Becky.

ANDERSON: We need that full story. Paula Hancocks, apologies Paula. Paula Hancocks is in Seoul for you this evening.

We've been two years in the making. The talks in Geneva gone serious future could still be in jeopardy.

The government delegation says that it is too early to officially begin indirect talks because it is still waiting to hear who is representing the

opposition in these negotiations, represent this from Damascus, met the U.N.'s special envoy early as today.

The talks aimed of course at finding a political solution to the bloody crisis in Syria although the two sides involved will not meet face to face.

Our Nic Robertson joins us from Geneva with more. And for days Nic, we've now been discussing whether these talks have any hope of even getting off

the ground, do they? And if so what can we expect?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We can expect a lot more of the same. And I'll tell you what the same looks like. Yesterday we have Staffan De

Mistura, the U.N. special envoy saying that he thought that the talks have started, that was when the HNCV high negotiating committee, this group that

represents conglomeration of opposition elements from a former primeness all the way through to some hardcore Islamist rebel groups.

Staffan De Mistura said, this then coming in to the U.N. building behind me represented the beginning of the talks. However we hear from Bashar Al-

Jeffrey the head of the -- the man leading the government alligation here today. Saying "Nope, nope that's the impression that Mr. De Mistura has

that the talks started, we don't believe that, we believe we're still discussing the preparation phase." And he made a point as he has done on

several occasions recently and saying we still don't know the names of the people on the opposition delegation.

The government has made clear that they are opposed to some of the more Islamist groups, if you're represented within that broad opposition

delegation. But at the moments, they're saying they still don't know the names did. The negotiations and order for running according to the


And right now, Steffan De Mistura should've meeting with that opposition group the HNC. However they decided not to attend the meeting right now.

Early on a hours ago here they were protesting about that -- what they says an increase in Russian bomb bombardments inside Syria. And just a couple of

minutes ago I talked to one of the opposition spokesman here, and I said "Why aren't you going into that meeting?" He said, "Look, we've made our

three demands for release of prisoners, a ceasefire and as well for -- to have access with humanitarian aid, we've made those points and we're still

waiting for answers." So he said "There's no point to just going in to the talks until we get those answers."

So at the moment this is really a very, very shaky beginning, perhaps, not unexpected. But that's how it looks, Becky.

ANDERSON: Nic Robertson in Geneva for you as we hear or get more from these talks of course, you'll get it here on CNN. Nic will be all over it.

All right, King Abdullah of Jordan has called the Geneva talks, the light at the end of the tunnel for Syria. He says Jordan is hosting more than a

million Syrian refugees and in an interview with the BBC King Abdullah said that is putting a massive strain on the entire country.


KING ABDULLAH, KING OF JORDAN: In the psyche Jordanian people I think it's gone to a boiling point. And Jordanian's are suffering from trying to find

jobs and the pressure on the infrastructure for the government, it does some hurdles when it comes to the educational system and healthcare, just

Jordanian's trying to get along with lives. Sooner or later I think that the dam is going to burst.


ANDERSON: What King Abdullah is speaking ahead of what is a donor know conference for Syrians in London.

For some perspective from Jordan I want to bring in Jomana Karadsheh, she is live for you in Amman tonight.

[11:25:04] And Jomana, after years of providing for people escaping walls in its borders, for the first time King Abdullah says and "We can't do it


And Jomana anyone in of you has been in Jordan recently would be hard pressed to argue with the countries leader. What kind of help is King

Abdullah appealing for and from whom?

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN PRODUCER: Well, Becky that kind of sentiment, what you're hearing from King Abdullah, there is something you hear from a lot

of Jordanians too about 20 percent of this countries population is now Syrian. And as the King mentioned there, it is causing a lot of strain on

the countries economy and its infrastructure and services.

Now, what Jordan wants, they want something beyond what they are getting over there being promised that emergency support, emergency relief and

funding, they would be getting through donor countries. What they want is a longer term plan, something to help Syrians here in Jordan and also the

population, Jordanians who also deal with the strain on their economy.

So Jordan wants support it says from Europe for example, now that Europe sees the same problem that Jordan has been facing for few years with this

influx of refugees.

Jordan says, "Help us" help the refugees here by providing more opportunities, more jobs, they want the E.U. for example to try and list

some of the restrictions on imports, so Jordan could export more to the E.U. for example, which would create more jobs here for Syrians, but also

Jordan cannot afford to just provide jobs for Syrians, their got high level of unemployment in this country, so they want more jobs for both locals and

also for the Syrians.

These are some of the things Becky that they're hoping to get from the E.U. The message from Jordan is clear. Jordan would be able to deal with this

problem if it gets enough support longer term planing not just the emergency relief otherwise it is Europe that is going to be dealing with

the problem and Jordanian officials credit.

ANDERSON: Yeah, I mean it's a very, very clear message.

Now, the fact it this, that the U.N.'s appeal to fun date operations to Syrian neighboring countries like Jordan as you all well aware Jomana, it

was not even a half funded in 2015. This year the United Nation's asking for three times as much.

Is that anything like a realistic act, do you think?

KARADSHEH: Well, this is one of the main problems Becky. Jordanian officials say that they've not been seeing enough coming through. And of

course, this is part of the problem that is why they're looking at alternative beyond this sort of emergency funding and this sort of promises

of aids that they've been getting.

And this is definitely one of the major things that Jordan wants to see whether it is going to ask for that at the London conference in a couple of


Also, Becky something really important you keep hearing here from Jordanian officials and also from U.N. officials who tell you that Syrians don't

necessarily want to go to Europe, they will happily stay here if they are provided with the opportunities to stay here, they wouldn't really have to

take -- they would think twice about taking the risks when they cross the Mediterranean and try to get to Europe.

ANDERSON: And I'm saying many Syrians are used being into Jordan would actually take the opportunity to go home of course, if they could.

All right Jomana, good to have you. Jomana Karadsheh in Amman, Jordan for you this evening.

From donating clothing to providing financial aid, they always you can all help the refugee's daily conflict in Syria.

Do use the site there are links there that you can follow and you got a full list of charities and organizations that you can

reach out to. And then you see these pictures. At times we all feel very helpless. So -- but there are actually things you can do and that site is

full of examples.

Live from Abu Dhabi. You're watching Connect the World I'm Becky Anderson for you.

We're going to take a very short break.

[11:29:08] Coming after that is that Republican Donald Trump losses out to Ted Cruz in Iowa. So are his chances in New Hampshire? We'll speak to a

Trump supporters that controversial candidate is the new Teddy Roosevelt.


ANDERSON: Welcome back. And to those who maybe just joining us. Hello. This is Connect the World with me Becky Anderson. Its 32 minutes past 8:00 in

the UAE.

The headlines for you this hour, Ted Cruz has topped the Republican field in the first contest in the race for the White House. He beat out Donald

Trump who came in second in what was Monday night's Iowa caucuses.

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton claimed victory over Bernie Sanders. But CNN has not yet called that race. She is expected to speak to

her supportives shortly and we'll go there as soon as she starts.

The U.N. says the North Korea has indicated inset to launch satellite in the coming weeks. The last time this happened was in 2012.

The U.S. and others believed the launch then was a cover for long range ballistic missile test. A draft proposal to renegotiate the terms U.K. man

shift of the European Union has being released. But as Prime Minister David Cameron who held urgent talks with the European council president Donald

Tusk over the issue said the proposal deliveries and "substantial change."

A British referendum among E.U. membership will be held before the end of 2017.

Well it is rapidly spreading throughout the Americas in World Health Organization is one new global implications. The health authorities'

suspect that the mosquito born Zika virus is linked to an alarming spike in babies born with the neurological disorder Mike Crisafulli in Brazil, that

and a number of other factors has prompted WHO to declare a public health emergency of international concern.



this could also spread back into other areas of the world where the population maybe immune -- may not immune.

And, we know that the mosquitoes that carry the Zika virus, if that association is confirmed are present through most of Africa, parts of

southern Europe, and many parts of Asia, particularly South Asia.


BECKY: All right, let's get to Africa then and to Uganda. The Zika gets its name from Uganda's Zika Forest. But the virus was first discovered in 1947.

David McKenzie is there. And he's joining us now. David?

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, that's right, Becky. This is where the Zika virus was discovered. I have to say you may not see

it but I've got mosquitoes flying all around me here in the evening next to Lake Victoria. We went inside that forest to learn what exactly might have

been missed.


MCKENZIE: Armed with traps, scientists push into the Zika forest in Uganda.

[11:35:02] They've discovered around 70 types of mosquito here, some carrying deadly viruses.

This is a very precarious climb up this tower for me to get high up to try to get the different species of mosquitoes.

We're in an ecological hot zone, where zoonotic disease thrives.

So, it's got a light to attract the mosquitos. And carbon dioxide coming off the dry ice. And we should get some overnight.


MCKENZIE: And they do. Mosquitos that could be carrying yellow fever, dengue, and yes, the Zika virus. The forest gave the virus its name. Back

in 1947, scientists discovered Zika by accident while studying yellow fever. The rested research station is still here. But Zika infected mostly

monkeys and human symptoms were mild. It fell off the map.

LUTWAMA: So, instead of getting yellow fever ...


LUTWAMA: ... actually they came across another virus.

MCKENZIE: A potential key mutation and an increasingly connected world, sparked an outbreak, half a world away.

LUTWAMA: With modern transport, which is very efficient, very fast, one person can be here today, gets bitten by a mosquito and starts getting sick

after he has traveled thousands of miles.

MCKENZIE: Now, scientists are playing catch-up, looking closely at the Zika-carrying aedes aegypti mosquito.

LUTWAMA: So, we do have we keep them under lock and key.

MCKENZIE: But in these labs they've been mostly using the high-tech equipment to diagnose patients. They lock the funding to track emerging

virus threats in the forest where Zika was identified.

LUTWAMA: For sure, we don't know completely what is in this forest. We have not done enough. We can't say we know anything. Every other year, we come

across new viruses.

MCKENZIE: They say not nearly enough is being done to research viruses before they spark a global health emergency.


MCKENZIE: That presents a difficult scenario because so many viruses crop up all around equatorial regions certainly around the world that they don't

necessarily know which viruses that could be identified could be threats and it might emerge many decades. It later like Zika to propose a global

health threat, Becky.

So here they say they need to have surveillance on a constant basis to try and mitigate that threat before it takes the world by surprise. Becky.

ANDERSON: Fascinating. All right, David, thank you. David Mackenzie for you.

Well, fresh out of Iowa, the U.S. presidential candidates now have their sights set on New Hampshire. Democrat Hillary Clinton has already hit the

campaign trail there. You are looking at live pictures of her rally in the granite states and we'll get to that when she starts speaking. Her camp

declared victory in Monday's Iowa caucuses.

The margin now is so razor thin the CNN hasn't yet called it the virtual dead heat then between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders would have been

by many accounts unimaginable several months ago. CNN Senior Washington Correspondent Joe Johns joins me from New Hampshire.

That and the fact that Donald Trump came in second almost third in the Iowa caucuses, what does this all tell us about the race for the White House in

2016, Joe?

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think if you look on the Democratic side you look for splits. You look for where the voters

are breaking. And we didn't see some signs. There's still limited evidence because it's just one state, Iowa. But the conclusions you can draw coming

out of at least that state is number one that people are breaking along age. Right around 44, 45 years of age, people younger than that tending to

vote for Bernie Sanders. The people older than that are intending to vote for Hillary Clinton.

There's also a split along continuum of honesty versus experience, the people who are looking for a candidate who is very honest, whose politics

are very honest, tends to be breaking more for Bernie Sanders, this according to entrance polls and people more interested in experience

tending to break for Hillary Clinton.

So that's where we start, but there are still a lot of unanswered questions.

The next contest, of course, is the primary here in New Hampshire. One week from today and Bernie Sanders is expected to do very well here in this

state partially, of course, because geographically the state of New Hampshire is very close to Vermont. He's something of a known commodity

here. But when you get farther south and into some of the other states, the question is how will he do with different demographics.

[11:40:00] For example, South Carolina where there are a lot of African- Americans in the Democratic column. How will he do there because Hillary Clinton seems to poll very well among African-Americans and some other


So, a lot of questions yet to be answered Becky.

ANDERSON: That's right. All right, well, a new day and a new state, they send the Republicans. Joe, thank you for that as we've just been reminding

of you as we all waiting on his speech from Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire.

But onto the Republicans at this point, Ted Cruz capturing top spot in Iowa with Donald Trump coming in second and Marco Rubio rounded up out the pack

in third.

Cruz hasn't spent much time to savoring his victory. He's focusing on the next big contest which is of course in New Hampshire. He's got some work to

do. The polls showed Trump is leading in that state but then they said that in Iowa. Let's get some perspective from a Trump supporter, and Ted Malloch

is the chairman and CEO of Roosevelt group and a senior fellow at the Said Business School in Oxford.

So, Ted also happens to be a descendant of the 26th U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt, joining me out of London this evening. Good to have you sir.

In an opinion peace for, you write and I quote for our viewers' sake. "Donald Trump is perhaps the best viewed as 21st century Theodore

Roosevelt. The two leaders have much in common from style and swagger, their substance and outlook. The last century would not have bent along the

American arc where it not for our unexpected president and this century may not go our way without the likes of a Trump." Well, he's over for Iowa. You

must be disappointed. What do you think went wrong?

TED MALLOCH, CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF ROOSEVELT GROUP: Well, I think Iowa is actually both somewhat irrelevant and very paradoxical.

In the first instance, it's not a very representative state. Yeah, the demographics are a bit odd in Iowa. It's also a very small electorate. It's

not even an election. It's really a caucus state.

But secondly paradoxically, every candidate in the last two cycles or three cycles who has won in Iowa has failed to the get the nomination.

So I think that Trump probably did not do retail politics in Iowa. He did not go to all those counties in all those precincts. He depended too much

probably on his media swagger and he spent a lot of time in New Hampshire and South Carolina. So he hasn't been in Iowa that much.

ANDERSON: I wonder what you think he doesn't need to do a bit of retail politicking. Hillary Clinton said she or had certainly she and her camp had

banged on 150,000 doors. I think Ted Cruz has been to 99 of these precincts. Can Donald Trump really assume to go any further if he's not

prepared to get out there and actually talk to the voters?

MALLOCH: No, no. I think that this will probably motivate him to do a lot more retail politics. And that will be the case certainly in New Hampshire

where I think the electorate has the same expectation that you'll be on the scene in all those places. And they'll have to spend more time doing that

and not just, you know, kind of big rallies and media events.

ANDERSON: And you've made some interesting analogies in this piece that you wrote. You said Roosevelt decried all factionalism and division. And you

say that Trump is doing very much the same thing. They're building a wall on the southern border with Mexico, deporting millions of undocumented

migrants who have kids who are as American as apple pie. Banning Muslims from the states, don't you consider those somewhat divisive?

MALLOCH: Well, in the first instance we're not talking about legal Americans. And the second instance, I think that the statement about

Muslims is actually taken totally out of context. He's talking about a temporary ban on visas during a period which we can fix that immigration

system. Neither he nor I or frankly anyone ...

ANDERSON: That's still a ban Ted. That's still a ban, however, short the ban were to be.

MALLOCH: Well I think you need to fix the system. I think that's what he's saying, yeah.

Well I think he could have restated or stated it differently. I certainly would have suggested that, yeah.

ANDERSON: All right. Well, Trump campaigned in Iowa back in October. He struck a humorous tone, Ted, during a speech in Sioux City. I want our

viewers and you have to listen to this.


TRUMP: Now, if I lose Iowa, I will never speak to you people again, that I can tell you.


ANDERSON: Last night he said he loved the place. He thought he might buy his farm there. Look, definitely some bite behind what was that humorous

remark. Trump knew even back then just how important Iowa was for his campaign. You sort of suggested it's irrelevant to all intents and


[11:45:00] Look, clearly things went wrong for him last night. And he's had the wind taken out of his sails to a certain extent one would expect. Is

this the end of the road for him?

MALLOCH: He lost by 5,000 votes. Not at all. He lost by 5,000 votes.

ANDERSON: He nearly came third.

MALLOCH: It looks very much like a three-party race now. So you have three parts of the Republican Party, the social conservatives, the establishment

conservatives, and frankly Trump representing the -- it's kind of disconcerted Republicans.

So you have three elements who will contest, I think, the election during the next two months. And we'll see how that shakes down. Trump is still far

ahead in the national polls both in the next place, New Hampshire, and in South Carolina. Well, I think Super Tuesday will actually be a telltale

event on the next horizon.

ANDERSON: Not as New Hampshire, of course. Just finally, you've got an international audience here. We've been doing a lot on, you know, how these

characters and these candidates stack up when it comes to domestic politics. And clearly the caucuses and these primaries are very, very


When it comes to the foreign portfolio, as it were, do you really believe that in Donald Trump, America has a man who is equipped to deal with the

issues outside of its borders?

MALLOCH: Well, I think you do. I think you have someone who's an accomplished CEO, who is a doer and an entrepreneur. Obviously he has very

strong opinions about national sovereignty, about putting America first. And I think that those have to be understood probably better outside the

United States. But he's still appealing to Americans, not necessarily to the world.

ANDERSON: Pleasure to have you, sir. Interesting times. We are waiting on Hillary Clinton. I'm sure you'll be as eager to see her as we are out of

New Hampshire. Her speech forthcoming. When we get that, we will get our viewers to it, for the time being Ted Malloch, thank you.

Onto New Hampshire and Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders then will take part in a town hall Wednesday night live on CNN. It's a critical

moment for both candidates to face the voters of the state, answer their questions. Make their closing arguments in a town hall moderated by

Anderson Cooper.

You can rely on both of them turning up I'm sure, that's Thursday 5:00 a.m. here in Abu Dhabi only on CNN.

You can work out the times wherever you're watching in the world.

Live from the UAE this is Connect the World.

Coming up, a $35 million initiative is hoping to turn Glasgow into a fully integrated smart city. That's next on the digital state.


ANDERSON: Welcome back. Its 49 minutes past 8:00 in the UAE. I'm Becky Anderson.

[11:50:00] We're going to get you to Scotland where the City of Glasgow shrugged off decades off decades of decline to become a cultural and

business hub.

Well, today a local government there wants technology to be at the heart of the city's continued regeneration. Max Foster reports.


MAX FOSTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The River Clyde has been at the heart of Glasgow's economic history. For centuries shipbuilding dominated. Today

cultural hubs stand proud along the waterfront. It's hoped the flow of data and technology will determine future fortunes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We want to assure people this is a thriving European city that can compete. We generally believe that Glasgow is well policed to

face its challenges and also mean to this (inaudible) the city of the future.

FOSTER: Glasgow is determined to become the U.K.'s first smart city. Its ambitious development proposal calls future city Glasgow one of $35 million

government grounds.

Project Director Gary Walker has the task of putting the plan into practice. Since 2015, various pilot schemes have tested how tech can create

harmony between citizen and council.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So one of the things that we are looking are is how we can connect to that sense, to be able to actually deliver our services much

more effectively using technology. And entails (inaudible) is an obvious example of that.

Here's what we've done is introduce LED light technology connected to the internet. We are seeing between 68 and 72 percent energy savings, we can

actually change the intensity of the light, based on the situation. We also have captured a whole lot more information. We have noise censors

associated with the light for public safety.

FOSTER: As Glasgow strives ahead and becomes a leading light in energy efficiency, it wants to empower citizens to cut their bills too. In

collaboration with the council, tech innovators RES created an app that enables home owners to calculate energy usage.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have get many of the leading application and engineering from around the world using software to say we are energy

organized. We can -- OK our virtual building and again we can simulate how that building is actually reporting.

FOSTER: All the inputted data is stored in the cloud and visualized into a virtual 3D energy map.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These are al technology we've announced and then created an application that can be simulated for energy use before anybody building

or prophecy in the city to be able to show what improvements that you can on energy consumption in the buildings, where do you want to, and energy

efficiency or install some panels on the building.

FOSTER: Analysis of the future city Glasgow project is ongoing. The council has an open approach willing to share knowledge with and learn from other

global cities.

Max Foster, CNN.


ANDERSON: Taking a short break, don't go away. They're back after this.


[11:55:06] ANDERSON: Fully a parting shots in the T.V. and the story of a 5-year-old Afghan boy who is at the center of a worldwide search,

photographed wearing a football jersey made out on blue and white striped plastic bag with a name, number of his idol Lionel Messi.

Well CNN has managed to tracked down the young sports fan and he may be one step closer to meeting the man himself.

CNN's Nima Elbagir, has the story.


NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In the impoverished afghan province of Ghazni, just surviving is tough enough.

So what do you do when you want something so simple yet so out of reach. You improvise. To the 5-year-old, Murtaza Ahmadi, the Barcelona team

captain Lionel Messi is a hero.

MURTAZA AHMADI, LIONEL MESSI'S FAN, (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I love Messi and I love him very much.

ELBAGIR: More than anything, he wants to wear his isle shirt. But those are hard to come by out here in rural Afghanistan. So he and his older brother

came up with a plan.

AHMADI, (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): So he don't have a Messi shirt should make it from a plastic bag.

ELBAGIR: While the Ahmadi brothers were celebrating their ingenuity, his hero was celebrating. His FIFA Ballon d'Or as world best player.

LIONEL MESSI, ARGENTINE PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLER: So much more than I -- than anything I dreamed of as a kid.

ELBAGIR: Ahmadi's happy dance in his makeshift shirt was posted by his family online. And the picture went around the world, catching the

attention of Messi himself.

Afghanistan's Football Federation says Lionel Messi's charitable foundation is now working on setting up a meeting between Messi and arguably his most

ardent fan.

For Ahmadi's father, Arif who came of age under the Taliban when football was rarely played and the Afghan National Stadium was used as a venue for

public executions. It's almost too much to hope for.

ARIF AHMADI, MURTAZA AHMADI'S FATHER, (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): My biggest hope is to have a football stadium in our district which is Jaghori District in

Ghazni province. This is my dream.

ELBAGIR: So now the 5-year-old says he's making due with a punctured old ball and the hope that his dream of meeting his hero could finally come


Nima Elbagir, CNN, London.

ANDERSON: I'm Becky Anderson. And that was Connect the World from the team here, have a very good evening.