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[02:00:25] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Under fire, the government forces aided by Russia pound the key Syrian city as evidence of a sacred U.S. airfield emerges.
ERROL BARNETT, CNN ANCHOR: New Zika fears, health officials in Texas report a rare case of the virus. This one spread through sexual contact.
CHURCH: And the presidential reset. The leading contenders for the White House step up the hunks of votes in New Hampshire after Iowa's surprise result. Hello and welcome to our Global audience. I'm Rosemary Church.
BARNETT: And I'm Errol Barnett. Good to be with you Rosey.
CHURCH: You too.
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CHURCH: An offensive in northwestern Syria is threatening to collapse the peace talks in Geneva. The opposition deligation canceled a meeting in Tuesday with the U.N. envoy. It condemned what it called a massive acceleration of Russian and regime military aggression of Aleppo that Homs.
BARNETT: Now Syrian rebels said, the assault north of Aleppo was the most intense yet. The offensive could cut rebels supply lines into that city.
CHURCH: Now in the airfield intensify its miliary campaign against ISIS. The U.S. is focusing on an area in Northern Syria. The satellite images show the expansion of an airstrip closed to the border with Iraq.
And Clarissa Ward is the first journalist to visit the airfield and she joins us now from Erbil, Iraq with more. So, Clarissa what would you able to learn about this airfield and it's likely rolling the fight against ISIS? CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary is the U.S. ratcheted up it's involvement in the war in Syria against ISIS with at least 50 U.S. Special Forces now on the ground. They are looking for reliable allies and they're also looking for military options beyond just the air strike as we saw for ourselves.
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WARD: This place doesn't exist according to the U.S. defense department but behind that berm of freshly dug earth, a small agricultural airstrip is being turned in to something very different. A military airfield just a hundred miles from ISIS positions. The satellite photo shows the work that has been done here in recent months.
So you can behind neither working to extend the runway so that larger planes could land here and the advantage of this site is that it's well secured inside Kurdish territory. So it could be used to supply the U.S. Special Forces deployed here in Syria. He's coming now.
We were escorted away from the airfield as soon as we were spotted. He told, it was a military zone. It's another example of the U.S's growing military footprint in this remote corner of Northern Syria. And it's deepening relationship with Syrian Kurdish fighters known as the YPG.
In an abandoned apartment building closer to the front line, we were given access to the YPG's joint operations room. It is a modest setup. 21 year old, Daham Hassaki and his colleagues talked to their men on the battlefield. Using newly provided tablets, they passed on enemy locations to a coalition command center from where the air strikes can be launched.
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"Right now, this is the front line of Hasika," he says.
"Our comrades there have seen the movement of two enemy fighters and so we sent this message along with their coordinates to the general command room." When there are heavy clashes, the operations room moves to the front line. Immediately after the strike, Hassaki and his men rush in to make sure that the right targets have been hit.
Who taught you how to use this?
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He tells us a group of foreigners and Americans trained his commanders who in turn trained him and his comrades.
In the skies and on the ground in Syria, the U.S. is deepening it's commitment to the battle against the ISIS.
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WARD: And it's not just the U.S. Rosemary. It's less than 50 miles from that airstrip, there are reports that the Russians are also expanding their military presence certainly northern Syria is becoming a very crowded neighborhood.
[02:05:06] CHURCH: Clarissa Ward joining us there. Live from Erbil in Iraq, many thanks to you.
BARNETT: The U.S. presidential hopefuls are turning their attention to New Hampshire where the votes will cast their ballots in the nation's first primary next Tuesday. Republican Donald Trump has a big lead in polls there.
CHURCH: He's coming off a second place finished in Iowa behind the now official front runner Ted Cruz. Trump says skipping the last debate may have cost him votes in Iowa.
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DONALD TRUMP, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If I had it to do again, I would have done the exact same thing. And, the reason is, you know why? Because there is $6 million for the vets in one hour. So if I took a second place instead of a first place and could give the vets $6 million, I'll do that all day long.
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BARNETT: Now the raise in New Hampshire could be shaping up as a three man contest. You got Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio all leading the Republican field.
CHURCH: And with things getting tighter, Trump is sharpening his attacks on his rivals. Sara Murray, reports.
SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump may have delivered aggression confession speech in Iowa but back on the campaign trail in New Hampshire, all that were off. Last night, he tore into Ted Cruz suggesting the Texas senator is running a dirty campaign. That after Cruz campaign aid told Iowa caucus goes that Ben Carson was dropping out of the race when in fact that was not true.
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TRUMP: These are truly dishonest people then he said, Ben Carson has quit the race today of the election. Ben Carson is doing a caucus. Ben Carson has quit the race and Ben didn't quit the race. In other words, Ben Carson quit and let me have you look. What kind of crap is this?
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MURRAY: The group campaign has sent apologized but that didn't stop Donald Trump. The others thing on Trumps mind is Marco Rubio. Trump keep joking that Rubio's third place finish in Iowa was held as unbelievable, Donald Trump second place finish has got as a humiliation.
For his part, Trump said, he is not humiliated by that second place finish in Iowa but he does want to win here in New Hampshire. Back to you guys.
CHURCH: Sara Murray, reporting there along the Democratic side. Bernie Sanders has a huge lead in the latest New Hampshire polls
BARNETT: That's right. But Hillary Clinton is hoping her win Iowa will give her some momentum going in to next week's primary. Jeff Zeleny is in New Hampshire.
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HILLARY CLINTON: I am so trilled that I'm coming to New Hampshire after winning Iowa.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hillary Clinton officially declared the winner today by the Iowa Democratic Party but Bernie Sanders is pointing to a victory of a different kind and a probable rise with the win of a growing movement at his back.
BERNIE SANDERS, U.S. DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We took on the most powerful political organization in this country. Last night, we came back from a 50 point deficit in the pulse.
ZELENY: He was as close as close to get, three-10 of a percent, 49.9 to 49.6.
CLINTON: I won and I've lost there. It's a lot better to win.
ZELENY: But you win a presidential nomination by scoping up the most delegates, not the states. On that score in Iowa, Clinton won 23, Sanders 21. Sanders didn't informally concede. His campaign manager Jeff Weaver says he wants to know the truth on the ground. As Sanders flew to New Hampshire overnight, he pledged to fight until the convention. He's counting on a big fund raising hall that aid stake could rival the $20 million he raised online in January alone. But for now, it's a fight for next week's New Hampshire primary.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe that he will win.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bernie. Bernie. Bernie.
ZELENY: In an interview today with Wolf put in dismissed any talk of voting irregularities.
CLINTON: From everything we have learned and know, I won and I'm very proud of that.
ZELENY: One group she didn't win the voters under 30. They chose Sanders by a crashing 70 points.
CLINTON: I'm going to have some work to do to reach out to young voters or maybe first time voters.
ZELENY: But those first time voters are a key part of Sanders growing movement.
SANDERS: We began the political revolution not just in Iowa, not just in New Hampshire but all over this country.
ZELENY: So as the raise moves to New Hampshire, one thing to keep in mind is, the New Hampshire voters often have a mind of their own. They do not respond always to what the Iowa voters have done so this raise could start a new but Bernie Sanders starts with inherited advantages. He's from next door of Vermont which of course shares a lot of similarities with these independent voters that Hillary Clinton is making a new strong case. Former president Bill Clinton was out as well. She plans to spend most everyday here until the New Hampshire primary next Tuesday.
Jeff Zeleny, CNN in Manchester, New Hampshire.
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[02:10:13] CHURCH: And before voters in New Hampshire cast their ballots Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders will take a part in the presidential town hall there, live on CNN. At Thursday at 12:00 p.m. in London, 1:00 p.m. Central European time only here on CNN.
BARNETT: Now, it's another big story we're following for you. There are new concerns about Zika Virus after it was transmitted sexually in Texas. It's a very big deal because it's only the third known case of its kind and the first during this outbreak.
CHURCH: Health officials say the patient have sex with someone who recently returned from Venezuela and was infected with the virus. Los Angeles for disease controls say if it will be giving guidance soon on sexual transmission with its focus on male partners.
BARNETT: Now we've been covering this for awhile. As you know, the cases of the Zika virus have been identified in early 30 countries and territories worldwide according to the U.S. centers for disease control and prevention. They're focused primarily in central and south America. A healthy alert was issued after the first Brazilian Zika case was confirmed in May of last year. And as you see, since then the outbreaks have spread through much of the Americas with Puerto Rico reporting its first confirmed case in December.
CHURCH: The World Health Organization is to make 3 million to 4 million people in the Americas will be infected with Zika in the next years.
BARNETT: And the CDC of course is working to prevent that spread.
CNN Chief Medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta went inside its emergency operation center.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Welcome to day 12 of the IMS activation for Zika virus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every morning isn't the first place CDC Director Tom Frieden will look to get the latest on Zika virus. TOM FRIEDEN, CDC DIRECTOR: The board here tells us what's going on at the glance. We see outbreaks around the world where they're happening. We also look at the details of our responsible.
This is the Zika virus.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: That's it, right there.
FRIEDEN: This is what is look like under the electron microscope.
GUPTA: Shouldn't we be scared if Zika or is the emotional part of this with regard to pregnant women and microcephaly sort of making this indiscriminately more -- having more impact.
FRIEDEN: Over and over again, the nature deals us the wild cards. In the case of Zika, the real tragedy is them like it's had a child with microcephaly and we know that that is devastating. And I think that's what's driving the concern. This guy, this is a nasty mosquito.
GUPTA: Is this the one?
FRIEDEN: This is the one. You can see Egypt (ph) eye.
GUPTA: Is anything good about these guys?
FRIEDEN: The mosquitos.
GUPTA: I mean, would you get rid of them? I mean they cost more death than mores and natural disasters and everything put together.
FRIEDEN: You know, the mosquito kills more people than any other animal on earth.
GUPTA: Did they've thoughts about possibly using DDT?
FRIEDEN: The fact is that DDT was widely used 50 years ago and virtually eliminated this mosquito from the Americas but DDT was also widely used in agriculture. They got into the environment then it had serious problems in the environment for many species. It also remains in the body for a long time. So we're looking at a safer, more effective ways to kill mosquitos.
If you're in an area with Zika, there are a lot of things you can do. Wear mosquito repellant. Use long sleeves. Use clothing that has permethrin put into it. All of those things really work and staying inside and screen space and air conditioning space really can drastically reduce your risk of getting a mosquito bite.
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CHURCH: And that was Dr. Sanjay Gupta reporting there. You can log on to CNN.com for more on the Zika outbreak including the five things you need to know and if you still have questions, Tweet them to us with the hash tag Zika questions. BARNETT: Now, North Korea plans what is calling a satellite launch but it's neighbor here something else is really happening. We'll get you a live report from Seoul, coming up.
CHURCH: And the frightening moments after a midair explosion on board of Somalia airline and we will have all the details in a live report. We'll be back in a moment.
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KATE RILEY, CNN SPORT ANCHOR: I'm Kate Riley with your CNN World Sport Headlines.
Bless (ph) the city magical season showed no sign of coming to an end up after they beat Liverpool to maintain their lead of the top of the English premier league. Yet again, they have their star striker of Jamie Vardy to thank, he scored both goals in a two no win. And his first was the talk of the simple world and he hit a quite incredibly half-volley through 25 yards to get the Foxes the lead.
More good news to the club (ph) as the 29-year-old is reportedly on the verge of signing a new contract. There were contracting four teams for North London and Manchester EPL team. Arsenal suffered a goal destroyer home to (inaudible). The Spurs won again this time three (inaudible) and it was a good night for the Manchester side. The City kept phase with Leicester (ph) by wining one now at (inaudible) thanks to first top winner from Sergio Aguero. Mans (ph) the united finally found their shooting booth putting three goals past Oak (ph) City.
Its past weekend, can Chelsea defended John Terry reveals. This would be his last season at Stamford Bridge but on Tuesday inter manager Guus Hiddink suggested the club wants to discuss the possible contract extension from the blue captain. Terry has rolled out playing for another club in England and hinted that he will head to abroad.
And that is to look at all your Sport Headline. I'm Kate Riley.
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BARNETT: North Korea plans to launch a satellite and that announcement has bought condemnation from South Korea, the U.S. and Japan. Those nations are saying the launch is really a front for a long range missile test.
CHURCH: These Japanese troops setting up missile defense systems around Tokyo ahead of that launch which U.N. agency says may come as soon as this Monday. The U.S. state department spokesman said the test is just the latest in a string of provocative moves by Pyongyang.
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JOHN KIRBY, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: This act would violate numerous Security Council resolutions by utilizing proscribed ballistic missile technology. It also comes on the heels, as you know, of the January 6 nuclear test, which is itself an egregious violation of U.N. Security Council resolution. (END VIDEO CLIP)
BARNETT: Let's bring in our Paula Hancocks, she's watching all of this from our bureau at CNN Seoul. Paula, the issue here is that the technology to launch a satellite is the same exact technology to launch a missile. So what should we make of this announcement?
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Errol, North Korea has consistently said that the best space program is peaceful. And if you launch this kind of long range rocket and you put a satellite on top then yes, it is peaceful. But of coarsely the thing that Washington, Seoul, and Tokyo is saying is that as soon as you put a warhead on top that rocket it then becomes a missile. So they do believe that it's a cover up for Pyongyang to try and improve its capability, improve its technology for a potential missile. So this is the reason that that so dead set against it.
We heard from Washington saying also that this is yet another reason why they have to be strong sanctions against North Korea. These sanctions had not being put in place yet after that January 6th nuclear tests the Washington and Beijing simply don't agree on how strong those sanctions should be.
[02:20:010] And so, Washington was saying once again this underscores the need to send a strong message to Pyongyang. Errol?
BARNETT: And Paula, the International Maritime Organization received this warning from North Korea because parts of the rocket use to launch stellite will of course fall into the sea in stages. What are the repercussions for this at likely to be, anything beyond sanctions.
HANCOCKS: Well, it's really hard to tell sanction does appear to be one of the very few weapons that the international community has when they deem with North Korea. And quite frankly you can see that they don't work to a certain extent North Korea is still able to carry at this nuclear test claiming it's last test and before with actually a hydrogen bomb.
And of course they're still able to do these rocker launches from Pyongyang points of view. They want to test this capability. They say that it is for peaceful purposes. And remember that we have a important day coming up the 16th of February, right in the middle of that window that Pyongyang has given us, which is Kim Jong-il's birthday the late leader of North Korea the current leader's father.
And they also marked that date in some particular way. It could be that this is to mark that. It could also be that this satellite launch is to have another success that Kim Jong-un can go to this very important Congress to in May. A Congress that hasn't been held since 1980 and if he has a successful nuclear test under his belt, a successful rocket launch, satellite launch under his belt. It certainly boosts his credibility for that very important Congress, Errol.
BARNETT: Yes, so much of what North Korea does tends to be set around stage craft and making the country appear strong to the outside world than the opposite. Certainly it's true. Paula Hancocks live in Seoul for us just past 4:21 in afternoon there. Thank you, Paula.
CHURCH: China is on the move. Hundreds of millions of people are trying to get home to celebrate the countries most important holiday the Lunar New Year.
BARNETT: That's right the festivities excuse me to usher in the Year of the Monkey begin on Sunday. Matt Rivers has more on the annual travel rush.
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MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's the largest annual human migration in the world, each year between late January and early February. Hundreds of millions of Chinese people head home for the countries biggest holiday the Lunar New Year.
Also called the Spring Festival, it's the one time each year when the families gather across the country to reunite and to get to one another. China sees a travel boom on a massive scale. The government expects 2.9 billion trips to be made across the country. Travelers using every mean that their disposal to make it home. Airports and railway stations get absolutely crushed with people, suitcases and get for their families until.
Highways still up with those wealthy enough to own their own cars and those who aren't proud busses and hitch ride on motorcycles, sometimes traveling for days. Here in Beijing alone about 42 million trips in and out of the city are expected to be made. During the holidays the normally loud and busy streets of Beijing become noticeably and almost surreally quiet.
The annual migration has boomed right along with the China's economy over the pass 30 years. Factory towns needed workers with most coming from China's rural villages. Hundreds of millions of people spend the year away their families with a full home during the holiday is something you can resist. Once home, traditional dinners are held and Chinese children receive little red envelops filled with cash called lucky money.
On Lunar New Years Ever roughly 700 million people watch a celebration broadcast on state T.V. that's an audience more than six times bigger than last year Super Bowl.
And after the Spring Festival ends most people return to work and cities like Beijing fill right back up. But there are many people who take extended holiday. The Lunar New Year holiday runs for less than 10 days. But the peak travel period last for nearly six weeks.
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CHURCH: And thanks to Matt Rivers for that report. And while millions of people are traveling in China for the New Year, tens of thousands of others are China Guangzhou railway station did not give off to a good start on Tuesday.
BARNETT: This is like a sea of people there. They were stranded after snow delay trains at least 22 trains. Authorities are bringing more trains to ease the crunch. Look all that. This is not a fun way for travelers to kickoff the holiday season. I'm hoping everyone is being patient but you never know.
CHURCH: And we think I can be back in.
[02:25:03] Let get more on this story. Our meteorologist Pedram Javaheri joins us now.
PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN METEOROLOGIST: The gang is back together.
CHURCH: It is. At last, it feels like ages.
BARNETT: Yeah.
JAVAHERI: It's been a little awhile.
CHURCH: But talk to us about. I mean, how people struggle sort of get a cross the country.
JAVAHERI: Yes. You know, it doesn't take much weather as well. So that something worth nothing, just a couple of centimeters, a few inches of snow came down recently. But when you're talking about a mass migration of this nature in, you got to keep in mind these trains about to generally 80 to 100 seats on these trains, their typically fill the max capacity and beyond that.
So 120-140 occupants are typically not unusual to see this time of the year on these trains. And there have been stories in the past in the last couple of years, this time of the year where they had people in the order let say six people in one square meter of spot surrounding each other with luggages and of course present and gifts they're carrying with them stack on top of that.
And interest that they're trying to not drink as much, not eat as much just because the bathroom that maybe just a couple of meters away will take 30 minutes to try to get through people ...
BARNETT: I didn't think about that.
JAVAHERI: ... to get to the rest rooms. So with this long journeys of 20 plus hours on these rails are something these people are really taking easily and that something of course we're fetching on.
Here and we'll show you what we're talking about and again, it's incredible a number of people and you do the math on this. You look at these and we'll take the average number, put it around 80 seats and about 16 trains cars lined up. You fill these to max capacity, you put some six people in a square meter plus their luggage. Doesn't take much to really add more chaos to a situation here transfer travel the laser concern of getting people on, getting people off these.
Matter of fact even some of the folks that we're talking about dealing with these a numbers of these many people, of course a 3 billion estimated number of trips taking place. About 85 percent of them are on the road ways. But that still leave about 332 million that are estimated to make trips by trains across this region.
So the stories are incredible to hear people that were actually sleeping in the luggage compartment of some of these trains just to be able to make their way towards their family members.
Satellite imagery rather quiet, it looks to remain that way. The forecast try to bring in some flourish just say west of Changsha back to the western and eventually toward going show to the south. But really going to be a quiet weather pattern over the next couple of days and generally speaking looking at sunny skies and maybe some clouds around Shanghai but not much in the way inclement weather to slow people down and that's the good news across this region.
But again it doesn't take much weather to slow you down when you have a hundreds of millions of people traveling over the next several weeks.
BARNETT: Wow.
JAVAHERI: Yeah.
BARNETT: Be patient. They all want to get to the big celebration but you want to get there safely.
JAVAHERI: Yeah.
BARNETT: When you there in (inaudible) this week.
CHURCH: Glad to know. Luggage wreck in India.
JAVAHERI: You're kidding me.
CHURCH: Yeah.
BARNETT: Wow, you can relate.
CHURCH: Yeah.
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BARNETT: He does say. He would much mentioned. All right Pedram thanks.
CHURCH: Thank you.
Holidays every plane passenger a nightmare in mid air blast blows the hole in airliner. What happen next coming up in a live report.
BARNETT: But who's leading the latest polls in New Hampshire by a wide margin but the same is true in Iowa.
Coming up we'll see if Donald Trump support in the Granite State is rock solid.
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BARNETT, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Welcome back, everyone. We're half hour into our two-hour block. I'm Errol Barnett.
CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: I'm Rosemary Church. It is, of course, time to update you on the main stories we've been following.
An area of Northern Syria near the border with Iraq will serve as the latest outpost in the battle against ISIS. Few satellite images show an extension being built on an agriculture airfield. The strip would allow the U.S. to supply allied Kurds and Arab tribes.
BARNETT: A patient in Texas has contracted the Zika virus through sexual activity after that partner was infected by a mosquito in Venezuela. It's the first known case of the virus being locally acquired in the continental U.S. during this outbreak. The World Health Organization estimates up to 4 million people will be infected in the Americas in the year.
CHURCH: Yahoo! will lay off about 1,600 of its employees as it tries to recover from $4 billion loss last quarter. The company also announced that it will close five global offices as part of its restructuring. And CEO Marissa Mayer suggested the company might be up for sale.
BARNETT: There were terrifying moments on board a Somali airliner when a midair explosion has ripped a hole in the plane.
CHURCH: This video shows the moments just after the blast. A source familiar with the investigation tells CNN, one person was killed falling from that plane. Two others were injured.
Now, Robyn Kriel is following this story and joins us live from Nairobi, Kenya. It is just horrifying, Robin. What are authorities saying about this? What do they think may have happened?
ROBYN KRIEL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Authorities saying on record, Rosemary, that investigations are ongoing. However, we were told yesterday by a source familiar with the investigation, that that particular blast site on the plane, was investigated by bomb technicians, and that it tested positive for explosive residue.
We are not sure what types of explosives or anything further than that at the moment. So obviously that body has been collected. It was just outside of Mogadishu were it was found by a farmer.
It was collected. It will be processed today to try to figure out just what happened to that person, who was somehow caught up with the blast that would have forced him outside in the aircraft and plunging to his death.
As you say terrifying moments for passengers. They were flying from Mogadishu International Airport to (inaudible). That plane, an airbus-type aircraft, would have had, we are told by experts if it had been any higher.
It was at around 12,000 to 14,000 feet. It wasn't quite pressurized just then. If it had been any higher, say 30,000 feet, in cruise control, that sort of blast would likely have brought the aircraft down.
CHURCH: Yes. It is extraordinary that only one person was killed in that incident. Robyn, what sort of impact might this have on airport security going forward?
KRIEL: Huge question being asked in Mogadishu today. Mogadishu is still an active war zone. Mogadishu International Airport is where the African Union and United Nations have their headquarters, as well as a number of foreign embassies.
So the traffic going in and out of there as well as huge commercial airliners, many touching down every day including Turkish airlines, those will all be obviously looking at their security measures, trying to figure out exactly how something like this could have happened.
If it does turn out to be some kind of an attack, planned attack, how did this device get onboard? And what can they make sure to mitigate that doesn't happen again?
Also, though, United Nations flights so all of these various agencies that fly in and out of Mogadishu, to do various things, non- governmental agencies, they will be looking at how safe is it to fly in and out of Mogadishu in the next few days.
[02:35:08]CHURCH: Yes, it is the big question. Robyn Kriel joining us live there from Nairobi, Kenya. Many thanks.
BARNETT: Voters in New Hampshire will pick their party's candidate for U.S. president next Tuesday. And on the Republican side, Donald Trump is still leading the pack by a very wide margin.
CHURCH: CNN's Gary Tuchman talked with voters in the town of Milford to find out what it is they love about Trump.
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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On an unseasonably warm evening in New Hampshire, this crowd doesn't have any warmth toward those who say Donald Trump is now politically vulnerable after losing in Iowa to Ted Cruz.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he's going to come here and rock New Hampshire.
TUCHMAN: Trump may have come in second place in the caucuses, but we asked many people lined up to see him this question.
(on camera): Were you disappointed with the results in Iowa?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely not, no.
TUCHMAN: How come?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that second place is a great finish.
TUCHMAN: Can you actually see me right now?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can. Of course, I can.
TUCHMAN: Those are unusual glasses.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm here to support Donald Trump.
TUCHMAN: No kidding.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. All decked out.
TUCHMAN: Were you disappointed he didn't win in Iowa?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I wasn't. I think that was going to be tough for him. I just put some perspective on it that it's only one less delegate than Ted Cruz.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): There were some Trump supporters who say a second-place finish was a letdown, but they were in the minority.
(on camera): How many of you were disappointed that he didn't win the caucuses last night?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He did win. He won for coming in second and doing nothing for it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody wins because he is in the race. They owe him a thank-you note because there's been more interest, excitement, and entertainment with him in it than there ever would have been.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): One reason many Trump supporters here don't feel badly about his loss to Ted Cruz, is that they don't think much of the Iowa caucuses.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just don't like it. I think that you can talk people out of things. You might go in really wanting to vote for Trump and then someone can change your mind at the last minute.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think a caucus is just a caucus. It's not really a vote. I think it was so informal that I'm not exactly sure how the process works.
TUCHMAN (on camera): Many of the people who have come here and hoped this would be a post-Iowa caucus is victory of sorts. But now, they're part of an effort to make sure Donald Trump doesn't go 0 for 2. Tell me why you like Donald Trump.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He speaks his mind. There's no bull (inaudible).
TUCHMAN: You just cussed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She speaks her mind, too.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He says exactly what a lot of people are thinking.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): But clearly wasn't enough for Trump in Iowa. But supporters here are determined to give their candidate a win next Tuesday in New Hampshire. Gary Tuchman, CNN, Milford, New Hampshire.
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CHURCH: Joining me now is former Donald Trump adviser, Samuel Nunberg. Thank you so much, sir, for talking with us. Of course, in the interest of transparency, you were let go from the Trump campaign, but you still support him.
You predicted that Donald Trump would lose in Iowa and in New Hampshire. But all of the polls suggest that Trump is way ahead of the other candidates in New Hampshire. Do you still think he's going to lose there?
SAMUEL NUNBERG, FORMER POLITICAL ADVISER TO DONALD TRUMP: What I said at that point was looking at those polls that the race was much more competitive than it appeared. Mr. Trump broke late -- Mr. Cruz broke late and his campaign was able to organize more cohesively than the Trump campaign.
What I fear now is because of Marco Rubio over exceeding expectations, he really has a lane to go up. I think what the big problem is going to be too is, how many of the independent voters are going to vote for Bernie instead of Mr. Trump because they feel that they can beat Hillary.
CHURCH: You know, that would be interesting if they decided to go that route. But Trump went on Twitter after his loss in Iowa, to complain that he's not getting enough credit for his funding his campaign from the voters. Is that likely to help his popularity in New Hampshire and beyond or hurt him perhaps?
NUNBERG: Well, yes, of course, it is. That's a major point that's very attractive to the voters. Look, Mr. Trump cannot be bought. Mr. Trump will take on the establishment. Mr. Trump is not controlled by the lobbyist, the insurance, the special interests, and the major donors.
Now, another point about that is that Mr. Trump has actually put the money out. He's spending money on TV. He's spending on the ground. He's spending money on data. He's spending money on grass roots organization.
So, he will be competitive, but this is going to be a very long race. This is going to be a long process. I don't think that necessarily people appreciate that. Mr. Trump certainly does.
CHURCH: Trump spent most of his time in New Hampshire, a few hours ago, in fact attacking Ted Cruz, but he just barely beat Marco Rubio in Iowa, as you pointed out.
[02:40:03]So who should he be most concerned about and is his method of attacking his opponents working for him? NUNBERG: Well, I actually think that unfortunately, I feel bad I wasn't there. That was a problem towards the end, was where he went to contrast with Ted Cruz. You cannot attack Ted Cruz as a movement conservative like Mr. Trump on personal issues.
Because what will happen is the same pool of voters that you're trying to get, they will be dispirited and will be pushed away by Mr. Trump. And I think you saw that, in CNN, late deciders, in exit and entrance polls.
So what I would say is if you want to attack Senator Cruz, he should attack them on the fact that Mr. Trump has more achievements. Mr. Trump is solely funding.
He's an executive and Mr. Trump is the most accomplished and has the most experience and the judgment to be president, as opposed to a one-term senator.
CHURCH: All right, Samuel Nunberg, thank you so much for talking with us. We appreciate it.
NUNBERG: Thank you.
BARNETT: Still much more to come after the break. Human rights groups are slamming Australia's high court for its ruling on a contentious offshore detention policy. We'll get the details to you just ahead in a live report.
CHURCH: Plus, you'll get to meet the little boy who has become known around the world as the biggest Lionel Messi fan and his story is about so much more than football. We are back with that and more when we come back.
PEDRAM JAVAHERI, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Ski watch time. Pedram Javaheri with you. Good news across Europe, if you're a fan of skiing or snowboarding because the cold air locked in place over the region. Also some moisture streaming in over the area as well.
But notice how far south the cold air really filters in. It is short-lived. We do expect temps to moderate back out really quickly after this. But then another bout of cold air comes in sometime around Saturday until Sunday.
At least the trend is a better trend. And notice across portions of Austria, really the place to be if you want trails that are almost all open across the region. No recent snowfall in the past 24 hours.
You look at the forecast. It does pretty well. Taking up 20- plus centimeters in a few of these observation points over the next 36 hours. The temperatures should also be cold enough by the afternoon hours to really pick up additional snowfall as we go in from Wednesday afternoon to Thursday afternoon.
And to the north, you can count on Western Norway. The mountains support additional snow coming in and the northern latitude helps as well about 27 centimeters. Powdery conditions here, 33 centimeter has come down in the past 24 hours.
And work your way into Germany, some of the conditions being reported are impressive. One of the places we are looking at, nearly 600 centimeters has come down as far as the base depth. The forecast across this region brings in about 17 more centimeters. Get out and enjoy it.
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BARNETT: Australia's high court has thrown out a challenge for the government's controversial offshore detention policy.
CHURCH: The decision clears the way for hundreds of detainees to be departed to the Pacific Island of Nauru from Australia, where they were sent for medical care.
[02:45:04]BARNETT: Human rights groups are criticizing the court's decision. Ivan Watson joins us from Hong Kong with more on this.
Ivan, I understand the average detention span for those on Madis (ph) Island and Nauru is some 445 days. Some have been there longer. What does this decision mean for them and the more than 200 people receiving medical care in Australia?
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Some of these people that we have spoken to are completely dejected right now, Errol, by the fact that the high court struck down this challenge to this very controversial offshore detention policy.
What it does mean is that there's about 267 refugees and migrants who have been staying at detention centers in Australia. Now, the government has a clear way to basically send them to Nauru, to the detention center on this tiny Pacific island.
They have to give a 72-hour notice and then they can ship the people who have been brought to Australia largely for medical reasons, medical treatment. And now, they can be shipped to this tiny island, which has a total population, of 10,000 people, and is only 21 square kilometers in size.
That's much smaller than most cities. Among the people shipped there are 37 babies and 64 children. We spoke to a 19-year-old refugee who came from Iraq by way of Iran.
And he said, quote, "The only thing I'm thinking now is death. I know I'm really young. But all I've seen during my three years in detention, my destiny will be death."
And this boy who does not want to be identified as a baby sibling who was born in Australia, who is now effectively stateless because he's denied citizenship from Australia, doesn't get citizenship from the country of origin from the family.
And that gets to the crux of the argument from groups like UNICEF, the United Nations Children's Fund and other human rights group, who says Australia is basically in violation of the International Charter on the Rights of Children, which says you should not be locking up children in prison-like conditions, unless it's a method of last resort.
BARNETT: It's a pretty incredible situation. Those who brought the case, this challenge, the Human Rights Law Center, say the legality for offshore processing is actually very complex. Will they be pursuing any other options now?
WATSON: You know, they're making an appeal now to Australia's prime minister to please use his authority and with the sign of a pen, prevent these 267 people from being sent to Nauru, to an existing population of that center, of some 537 people at the end of December.
It will massively swell the population at that center, if these people are sent. Take a listen to what a representative from that human rights group had to say after the high court struck down this case.
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DANIEL WEBB, DIRECTOR OF LEGAL ADVISORY, HUMAN RIGHTS LAW CENTER: Right now, I'm sure in the Immigration Minister's Office, it's high- fives all around. They shifted the goal posts and they won, in the high court.
Let me tell you, around the country right now, there are 267 incredibly vulnerable people who will be terrified. We're talking about 37 babies, 54 children. Many of whom are going to be in classrooms around the country right now.
We're talking about a dozen women, who have been seriously sexually assaulted on Nauru, or suffered sexual harassment on Nauru. They will be terrified.
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WATSON: At this point, Errol, we'll just be waiting for the Australian government to announce when they it will begin the process of deporting these deportees, these refugees and migrants, to that tiny island nation of Nauru.
BARNETT: Such a challenging existence for those refugees and migrants. Ivan Watson, live in Hong Kong for us, thanks.
CHURCH: The little boy who made a Lionel Messi jersey out of a plastic bag could soon get to meet his football idol. We'll take you to his village where just being able to play football is a new freedom. We're back in a moment.
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JAVAHERI: Ski watch time. Pedram Javaheri with you. Right now we look at the conditions around Eastern Canada where we watch another storm system come in, bring in pretty amount of snow showers there. It should be a little too mild farther to the south to bring
the ski resorts in New York and Vermont and New Hampshire. We do have decent snow on the ground around (inaudible) about 71 inches, Blue Mountain, 33 inches.
Looking at loose, granular conditions here, about 90 percent of the trails open, have picked up about an inch in recent days. Only about 70 percent of the trails are opened there.
Towards parts of New England, you notice the temperatures, are too warm and the moisture too limited that far south. And the conditions around Killington Resort, half of the trails are open. They're machine-groomed.
Snowy conditions there. Holiday valley, also machine-groomed conditions. And we are watching the intermountain west some additional snow is expected coming over the next two or three days.
It could accumulate at least few inches. Not a blockbuster snowstorm by any means. A couple of inches across this region has really built great conditions. Powdery conditions from Vail Out to Steamboat. All trails a go.
Picked up a foot out of places like Steamboat in recent days. And the western U.S., as in the cascades, also picking up additional snow showers over the next two days.
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CHURCH: A photo of an afghan boy dressed in a plastic Lionel Messi jersey went viral and struck a chord with football fans and the Barcelona star himself.
BARNETT: Now, the fan may get a chance to meet his idol as Nema Elbagir reports.
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NEMA ELBAGIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In the impoverished Afghan province (inaudible) just surviving is tough enough. What do you do when you want something so simple and yet so out of reach, you improvise? To this 5-year-old, Barcelona team captain, Lionel Messi, is a hero.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD (through translator): I love Messi. I love him very much.
ELBAGIR: More than anything, he wants to wear his idol's shirt, but those are hard to come by out here in rural Afghanistan. So he and his older brother came up with a plan.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD (through translator): Those that don't have a Messi shirt should make it from a plastic bag.
ELBAGIR: While the (inaudible) brothers were celebrating their ingenuity, his hero was celebrating his fifth (inaudible) as the world's best player.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Much more than anything I dreamed of as a kid.
ELBAGIR: His happy dance in his makeshift shirt was posted by his family online and the picture went around the world. Catching the attention of Messi himself.
Afghanistan's football federation says Lionel Messi's charitable foundation is now working on setting up a meeting between Messi and arguably his most ardent fan.
[02:55:01]For his father, who came of age under the Taliban, when football was rarely played and the stadium was the Afghan National Stadium was used as a venue for public executions, it's almost too much to hope for.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): My biggest hope is to have a football stadium in our district, which is (inaudible) in Gazni Province. This is my dream.
ELBAGIR: For now, the 5-year-old says he is making do with a punctured old ball and the hope that his dream of meeting his hero could finally come true. Nema Elbagir, CNN.
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CHURCH: We certainly hope that happens. What a great story.
BARNETT: Absolutely.
CHURCH: Do remember to connect with us on social media anytime. Want to hear from you.
BARNETT: That's right. We got more CNN NEWSROOM for you after the break, including the latest on a secret U.S. airfield in Syria.
CHURCH: It is a CNN exclusive. Stay with us for that and more on the other side of the break.
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BARNETT: A big welcome to those of you watching from all around the world. I'm Errol Barnett.
CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church.
