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Rubio in Firing Line in GOP Debate; Libertarians Shop for New Candidate; Feminist Icon Apologizes for Comments on Young Women Who Support Sanders; Iowa Democratic Results Recounted, Clinton Wins with 49.84 Percent. Aired 4-5p ET

Aired February 07, 2016 - 16:00   ET

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[16:00:32] FREDRICK WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to Manchester. The excitement is palpable here in New Hampshire. With just two days to go until the nation's first presidential primary, hello again, everyone, I'm Fredricka Whitfield and we are live from Manchester right there.

The locals here say Manchester, so I'm going with that. The candidates are canvassing the state today, vigorously pushing for last minute vote. Events are being held this hour for John Kasich and Hillary Clinton. Clinton's husband, former president Bill Clinton, is actually holding rally on her behalf while she visits Flint, Michigan to address the water crisis there.

The candidates are talking about last night's debate and how it all went down. Just moments ago, Chris Christie said he has no regrets.

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GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE (R-NJ), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The plan was to go and talk about the thing that I've been talking about all week that there's a big difference between me and Marco Rubio, between my experience and his, who is ready to take on Hillary Clinton, who is ready to run this country. And so this isn't about me or Marco Rubio, this is about the country. And a country needs a president who is ready, who has seven years of a president who wasn't ready for the job. I'm ready for the job, Senator Rubio is not. That's the point I was trying to make last night, and I think it went OK.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) in your experience in taking him on, do you think it's having gone over 180 town hall meetings here in New Hampshire, the experience of the public forum, 137 in New jersey, and federal prosecutor (INAUDIBLE)-

CHRISTIE: Yes. I mean, listen, everything you bring to the table from your life is what matters. I was trying it make that point all week to everybody that what you've done in your life matters. And that you know, just for the newest or shiniest thing, we did that seven years ago and it doesn't work.

Last night you all saw that when the lights got on and they got really bright, it makes a difference. And I've been tested. You know. There's folks in this crowd here who have been covering me for years and they pushed me really hard all the time. And the national folks are here, who pushed me. And you learn. A lot from that. And either you're ready or you're not. I think last night we showed a lot about ourselves, most importantly, and I think Senator Rubio showed something about himself too.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: If you lose on Tuesday, are you going home?

CHRISTIE: It depends on how you define lose, man. You know. I've got to tell you this, going into last night, there was march among the chattering class and the political operatives in this country to annoy Senator Rubio and I think that annoyment (ph) is now over. I think it changes the entire race and means there's probably more tickets out of this state than there were before last night.

Because I don't think anybody is ready to settle on somebody at this point, after what went on last night. We cannot take the chance of nominating someone who cannot beat Hillary Clinton. That will be fundamental process of this process and a fundamental failure of our party.

And so I am ready to roll right at the South Carolina. My reservations are made. We have staff down there and we're ready to go South Carolina. I want the result here on Tuesday to be as good as it can possibly be. And we are going to work hard it make sure it is as good as it can be. I think last night we took a large step towards it.

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WHITFIELD: All right, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie very confident looking forward to Tuesday at the same time reflecting on last night saying he is not at all apologetic. He was just being himself.

Now someone else who likes to just be himself, Donald Trump, he was back on the stage last night after skipping the previous GOP debate in Iowa. Trump sparring with his rivals, including Jeb Bush. Here's the moment where Bush hit him hard on the issue of eminent domain and Donald Trump , well, he pushed back.

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JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What Donald Trump did was use eminent domain to try take the property of an elderly woman on the strip in Atlantic City. That is not public focus - that is down right wrong. Here's the problem with that. The problem was it was to - to tear down - it tear down the house -

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I didn't take the property. The result was -

BUSH: You tried.

TRUMP: I didn't take the property. The woman ultimately didn't want to do that.

BUSH: That is not true. To turn this into a limousine parking lot for his casinos is not of public use.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Mr. Trump, take 30 seconds. He wants to be a tough guy. A lot of times you'll have - and it doesn't work very well.

BUSH: How tough is it to take property from an elderly woman.

TRUMP: Let me talk. Quiet. A lot of times -- (END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: Oh, boy, that was that moment no one can forget. I want to bring in CNN chief political correspondent, Dana Bash. She's in Plymouth where Trump had a rally earlier today. So you spoke with him, did he say anything about that shush moment?

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DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Not so much about that. He was quite pleased with his performance last night. There's no question. That was one of the buzz-iest exchanges of the night. Jeb Bush was determined to mix it up with Donald Trump, that is what he has been doing for a while. He clearly felt like he had the issue where he could really nail Donald Trump last night.

But aside from that, there wasn't as much heat with Donald Trump and others on the stage who might be bigger threats to him at this point. And threats to his candidacy. That has been kind of a marked change from what he's been doing. Not just on the debate stage, but more importantly what he's been doing on the stump. Because this state, New Hampshire, is so critical to him, he clearly is going back to basics. I talked to him about that and about how he might have to fair in New Hampshire.

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TRUMP: I'm very, very happy the debate is over with. But I enjoyed the experience.

BASH (on camera): You keep saying that. It is almost like you feel -

TRUMP: There was a lot of pressure. No, no. There was a lot of pressure on the debate. I'll be honest. For everybody, not just for me. And there's more pressure when I see you and all of you people and everybody else saying this is a vital debate for Trump. I wish I didn't hear it. When I hear Jeremy saying this debate is vital for Trump. So it makes it even more pressure. And I've always liked pressure to be honest with you. I sort of like pressure and it came out very well.

BASH: One last question. You did very well in Iowa. Not taking that away from you. But as you know, because you built a brand on understanding that perception is everything, and the perception because of the polls is that you would win Iowa. So if you don't win in New Hampshire, what is that going to do to your political brand? Is it going to be damaged?

TRUMP: So if I had two seconds, I think I'm doing OK. I would much rather win. I could say to you if I came in second or third I'd be thrilled, OK. That way, we lower expectations. I know all about expectations, we lower expectations. If I came in second, I wouldn't be happy. OK?

So now if I come in second, you can go around and say, poof. No, I would much prefer to win in New Hampshire.

BASH: And what would it mean down the road? About getting the nomination?

TRUMP: Oh, I think we'll do fine. Look, we're going to do very well I think in South Carolina. We have tremendous numbers there. I think the SEC is going to be great. And Nevada is a place I have major holdings. I have thousands of employees there. I think we're going to do well all the way done the line. We hope to do really well on Tuesday.

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BASH: So you see there, Fred, he was being quite candid that he understands the expectations game in politicians. And for that moment he didn't play them. He said, "I want it come in first." Not a need, we should clarify, "I want to come in first." But he is, I think, stating the obvious. He does have a double-digit lead in most polls in New Hampshire. If he doesn't come in first the perception will be that he is quite damaged, which is why I think it would be hard for him to admit anything else.

WHITFIELD: Yes, this is his way of appearing not to be overly confident since he was burned at the polls, saying one thing and with the outcome eventually set in Iowa. So this time, you know, you kind of go in saying, I'm not so confident but then you really are inside.

All right.

Dana Bash, thanks so much, appreciate it.

All right. I'm joined now by CNN politics executive editor, Mark Preston and Republican strategist Brian Morgenstern and Kayleight McEnany. Good to see all of you.

It's interesting, Kayleigh. Let me begin with you. Ladies first, you're in the middle here, is this the understated Donald Trump also competing with the brash Donald Trump?

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Yes, you know, we have seen him soften his tone a little bit. We recall his interview with Anderson Cooper this week where he opened up about alcoholism in his family. He is a little more personal, a little softer around the edges. But what served him well but what serves him well over anything was Chris Christie fighting his battles last night, taking down Rubio who is his number one threat on Tuesday, coming up behind him. WHITFIELD: Was he feeling inside like yay, you do this so I don't have to?

MCENANY: I think we were all a little stunned by it and I think Donald Trump was no exception. He sat back and he rode high and people thought he had a great debate performance and Rubio came out with a black eye.

WHITFIELD: That's a good point. Mark, if he really did watch - if you're into watching body language, which I love to do, it was interesting in those cut-aways when you look at the dynamic of that half circle and Donald Trump was just kind of like - it was like a tennis match like I'm just going to watch this go back and forth.

MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: It is always nice to be a spectator and not in the firing line. But you know what's interesting about this campaign. I mean there's a lot of interesting things with this campaign. But you have Marco Rubio last night that was so scripted. He was so scripted he said the same thing multiple times, over and over again. He kept going back to the (INAUDIBLE).

And you have Donald Trump who like - I don't know if he has ever been handed a script and if he has, did he ever read the script.

MCENANY: Probably not.

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PRESTON: I mean, he just says what is on his mind. Look, last night, Marco Rubio was hit hard. There's no doubt about it. The narrative has changed. It's probably going to result in another ticket out of New Hampshire that will not be four, probably be five. That's the narrative today.

Donald Trump, even if he comes in second place, he says he wants to win. Of course he wants to win. But even if he ends up in second place he's got plenty of money. You know what? He does have support in the south. He could continue to go on. By the way -

WHITFIELD: But maybe in his case it is not money but a little ego too.

PRESTON: Well, I think he is his worst enemy. If he decides it is all done inside mentally then it is all done mentally for him and he's out. But I think that's on him though.

WHITFIELD: OK. Brian, I know you've got lots of thoughts. Let's go to this - yes, another taste of last night. Chris Christie and a moment.

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SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Let's dispel once and all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he is doing. CHRISTIE: I want everybody at home to think about this. That's what Washington, D.C. does. The drive-by shot at the beginning with incorrect and incomplete information and then the memorized 25-second speech that is exactly what his advisors gave him -

RUBIO: The bottom line, this notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he is doing is just not -

CHRISTIE: There it is. There it is. The memorized 25-second speech. There it is, there it is, everybody.

RUBIO: Well, here's the response. I think anyone who believes that Barack Obama isn't doing what he is doing on purpose doesn't understand what we are dealing with here. This is a president, this is a president who is trying to change this country.

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WHITFIELD: Oh, boy. It's hard to come back from this. And the "Boston Herald" well they ran away with it. Take a look at the cover of today's issue "Rubio Chokes." So Brian, how does Marco Rubio recover from a moment like this? It kind of takes you back to the drinking of the water moment.

BRIAN MORGENSTERN, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Yes. I mean, we're chattering a lot about this. But when you look at the google search trends, 538 did an article about this. Actual viewers spike - the interest spiked when he was talking about his pro life position. That was two, three times as many hits as when this exchange was going on. So maybe we care a little bit more about it than viewers, that's one thing.

The other thing this is pot meet kettle. This is Chris Christie's whose whole campaign is "I'm a governor, I was a prosecutor. I'm a governor, I was a prosecutor. I'm a governor, I was a prosecutor." He is a broken record. That kind of thing I think the voters may take into account as well. It's also resume, Christie with the future Rubio. So if there is a recovery here, one bad moment doesn't cripple a campaign.

MCENANY: One side Christie showed is what plays well in a state like New Hampshire. This is a northeastern state, he plays well with this audience and to contrast that Marco Rubio I loved what he said in his pro life position. But that doesn't necessarily carry the day here in a state like New Hampshire.

MORGENSTERN: Well, that may not. But his conviction about it, his empathy, and the way he addresses it, is something that even pro choice voters can identify and appreciate his passion. That, I think, is why that spike happened. And so I think going forward and again Rubio has an operation in several states already down the line.

MCENANY: Yes.

MORGENSTERN: So this one moment I think is something that will, that he will recover from especially because he has more debates. WHITFIELD: And of course, Mark, that's what the candidates are

counting on, right? They want voters to look deeper into what they are promising. They want them to study everything about them.

PRESTON: Right.

WHITFIELD: And not necessarily the fallacies.

PRESTON: So what we see in these democratic town halls that CNN has done over the past couple of weeks in Iowa and in New Hampshire, we have been able to look into the soul of these democratic candidates. It has been very difficult with the Republicans because the Republican field is too big.

I will say this about the pro life position of Marco Rubio. That could become problematic. I understand that in a primary, Republican primary, it plays well. But that could become problematic. There are already people on the stage right now that are going to hit at him because he has no exception to abortion in that and that is problematic. There is only one part of the Republican Party that believes in absolutism on that. There is a whole other stretch on that. I think Marco Rubio can't waiver on it. He is already there but it could be a problem.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks so much. Another really quick one?

PRESTON: Bring it out, Brian.

MORGENSTERN: One quick one is the national security talking points and his experience on the intelligence committee. Those were another trend where he stands out from the crowd and where he can fight back.

WHITFIELD: All right. Brian, Kayleigh, Mark, thank so much to all of you. Appreciate it.

PRESTON: Thanks.

WHITFIELD: We will, of course, have special coverage of the New Hampshire primary all day Tuesday. You don't want to miss any of it. It's all riveting from start to finish. The candidates final speeches, the big vote and of course, all of the results captured right here on CNN.

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UNIDENTIFED MALE: I'm undecided but leaning very heavily now.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Toward?

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Towards Donald Trump.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Why?

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Because he speaks what a lot of people are thinking right now. People are fed up with career politicians. The bought and paid for crony capitalist system that we have on Capitol Hill today. (END VIDEO CLIP)

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WHITFIELD: Welcome back to our live coverage of beautiful look there of Manchester, New Hampshire. The candidates are criss-crossing the state. John Kasich is now holding a town hall right now in Concorde, just up the street if here. Let's listen in for a moment.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: ... going up and the debt per person is what is it now, 58,600. It is out of control. And because of that, we have too much regulation. Taxes going up and spending going through the roof. Wonder why we're not doing great. And I can tell you both from being in Washington and being a governor of the seventh largest state, if you have common sense regulations, if you cut taxes for individuals in business and if you manage your budget and you don't go in the hole, you will have a robust economy with job growth. And that is what we need in America and that's what I will get us in the first 100 days.

So I guess maybe i should go to questions here. I'm thinking if there is anything else I left out. We can solve these things. I mean, just quickly, I remember when a man walked on the moon. I remember when the Berlin Wall fell down. I remember when Reagan push the sun up, made it morning in America. Reagan, you could see him, just like in that movie. He's just pushing the sun up, you know.

The sun is still not too its zenith, frankly. I remember when we pushed Saddam, having the Muslim Arabs come and work with the west push Saddam, push Saddam out of Kuwait. And I was there when did balance the budget. And I'm there to see in Ohio, which people had written off with surpluses, not just balance budget, surpluses and pensions that are secure and harmony and the creation of 400,000 new private sector jobs.

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We're rocking and rolling and we want to do it in America. So we're going to go to questions. But I always know to ignore the firsthand that goes up. We're going right here, sir. Yours was the third. OK?

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Oh, thank you. A couple quick thank yous and then a question on social security. Thank you for mentioning social security in the past. Thanks for talking about it last night. And the question is, I guess a note of thank you is thanks for taking my question because I was third.

KASICH: Well, if the third isn't good, we're just going to move on to the next question.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: The question is, in the first 100 days of your presidency, how do you, what's your plan for social security? How do you get the ball rolling? KASICH: Well we know that those who are wealthy are going to get less benefit. But not no benefit. So those who have come to really depend on it are going to get what they want and we've got to convince the young people in this country that they've got a better chance of seeing a social security check than a UFO. And what we have to do is we're going to have to get people like Charlie, we're going to have to get people like Dick Sweat, the former democratic congressman. I said, Dick, I win, you're going down there. You're going to get my agenda through because I know where you live. So we're going to have fundamentally a Republican - we have to have a plan from the president, which we'll have.

Then we have to go and get the Republican leadership and talk to the Democrats and bring Democrats on. Because if you don't have some Democrats on, you'll never get social security fixed because you don't jam things through. People say, you know, look I fight like crazy but jamming doesn't work. You have to be a able to recruit people on the basis of the strength of your idea and the idea of social security is, what, are you kidding me?

America has to have a strong social security system. We can't turn our backs on our seniors, it's ridiculous. So we will line them up and look I'm going to have to spend a lot of time with the Congress. A lot of time with the Republican leadership, the Democratic leadership and then let me tell you what you do, you gather, you gather the birthdays of the moms and dads of members of Congress, then you call them on their birthdays an then you get mom to call their son or daughter and say, if you mess with that president, you're messing with me, kid. OK? And you laugh, you laugh at that, but that's how it works.

WHITFIELD: All right, John Kasich there, showing the stamina after a night on the debate stage answering the question of, really the process of trying to protect and secure social security. He is in Concorde just up the street from here in New Hampshire.

All right. Coming up, she is a female leader and she will tell you that she is a fighter. So why is Hillary Clinton having a tough time picking up young female followers. How she is using powerful women to help lure more support. We'll hash it all out next.

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UNIDENTIFED FEMALE: Just remember, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other.

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WHITFIELD: Missing on the campaign trail today Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. He dropped out of the Republican presidential race on Wednesday. Bringing an end to a bid that began with the hopes of expanding the libertarian base that his father, Ron Paul, built and leaving many libertarians right here in New Hampshire scratching their heads wondering which candidate they should support now.

CNN politics senior digital correspondent Chris Moody went to a speak easy to talk with libertarians in this state.

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CHRIS MOODY, CNN POLITICS SENIOR DIGITAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Last summer CNN politics spent a week in the New Hampshire woods with a group of libertarians who are part of a movement to convince like- minded people to move here. After 15 years of work, they finally reached their goal.

CARLA GERICKE, PRESIDENT, FREE STATE PROJECT: We are trying to get 20,000 people to move to the state of New Hampshire and we now have 20,000 people who have said they will -

MOODY: They gathered at a speak easy in Manchester to celebrate.

With the primaries coming up, we wanted to find out what they think about Rand Paul dropping out of the race and how New Hampshire libertarians feel about other presidential candidates who are now trying to get their vote.

KEITH AMMON, NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE HOUSE: I made a lot of phone calls for Rand Paul and about 30 of us endorsed them and it is really sad news that he dropped out a week before the primary.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it would have been great to see how he did in New Hampshire.

MIKE VINE, FREE STATE PROJECT MEMBER: He wasn't really that popular. He didn't inspire the same passion because he was trying to walk this road of compromising and certain areas.

RYAN MINER, BLOOGER, AMINERDETAIL.COM: I came up to support Rand Paul.

I was disappointed. But now we're candidate shopping. I went to see a Ted Cruz rally today.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: There are some people that I see that are animated by Ted Cruz and some people that have even fallen into the Donald Trump camp. I say fallen.

AMMON: A lot of friends of mine, they are enamored of Ted Cruz. There is something inauthentic about him.

LAURA BENNETT, FREE STATE PROJECT MEMBER: Sanders, Hillary, I don't want any of it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is really no legitimate candidate I think that represent anything of what this country was founded on.

AMMON: I'll probably just be quiet and just not endorse any other campaign.

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WHITFIELD: All right, Chris Moody with me now. Who is courting these boomers?

MOODY: Well, as we saw, right after Rand Paul dropped out, Ted Cruz came out of the gate really working hard to court the liberty voter here in New Hampshire. He's actually been doing this for a long time. Here's his pitch, it's not that he is a pure libertarian like Rand Paul, he won't claim to be. But what he will say, basically, what you can get out of his words is that he is someone that can unite the base, unite the coalitions. He can be there for the liberty movement and also be there for the evangelical voters as well, kind of like a Reaganesque.

[16:30:00] The question is will the libertarian trust him and buy it. They probably won't come to vote as mush they would if say Ron Paul was out here in 2016, but he's making a real effort. And as we saw in the video, some of them might be coming around but others are still very skeptical as someone like Ted Cruz.

WHITFIELD,: Is that right? All right, thank so much Chris Moody, very fun piece. Really great view of the libertarian view here in New Hampshire. Appreciate it.

All right, coming up, should a female leader and she will tell you she is a fighter for why is Hillary Clinton having a tough time picking up more young female followers. How she is using a lot of powerful women to help support her.

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WHITFIELD: Oh, welcome back. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. In Manchester, New Hampshire, a feminist icon is now apologizing about her comments on young women who support Bernie Sanders. On Friday night's "Real Time with Bill Maher, Gloria Steinem raised a lot of eyebrows when she suggested young women were backing Sanders just so they could meet young men.

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GLORIA STEINEM, WOMEN"S RIGHTS ACTIVIST: When you're young you're thinking, you know, where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie or you know.

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[16:35:00] WHITFIELD: But today on Facebook, she issued an about face. She wrote, "In a case of talk show interrupts -- interruptus I should say, I misspoke on the Bill Maher show recently and apologized for what's being misinterpreted as implying young women aren't serious in their politics. What I had just said on the same show was the opposite. Young women are active. Mad as hell about what's happening to them.

Graduating in debt but averaging a million dollars less over their lifetime to pay it back. Whether they gravitate to Bernie or Hillary, young women are activists and feminists in greater numbers than ever before."

Hillary Clinton has been struggling with women voters and her campaign is trying to change that. When former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright introduced Clinton yesterday she said, "It is the duty of young women to support her."

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MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: And a lot of you younger women don't think you have to -- that's been done. It's not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other.

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WHITNEY: Joining me now is the democratic strategist and Bernie Sanders supporter Nomiki Konst, and democratic strategist and Hillary Clinton supporter, Maria Cardona. All right, good to see both of you ladies.

MARIA CARDONA, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Hey, Fred, how are you?

WHITFIELD: All right, Maria, good. Let me begin with you. Do you believe that Madeleine Albright's words were taken out of context? Do you think there's a clear understanding about what she said and what was meant by it?

CARDONA: I think it was the wrong context for her to use them in. And look, I think that anybody who knows Madeleine Albright knows that this is a line that she coined a long time ago and a lot of women do agree with it. I agree with it in most context and I have used it before in a lot of different context. This is not the context to use that line and I think Hillary would agree that you don't shame anybody into voting for you, you have to earn that vote.

And that's why I think the campaign is going. I think one of the issues here is that younger women don't know Hillary Clinton's record and so I think it's in common (ph) upon the campaign and in common (ph) upon Hillary Clinton herself and this is what she's going to continue to do, is to talk about that stellar record. It's a lifetime of working on behalf of women's issues, on behalf of family issues. Whether it's paid family leave, whether it's a woman's right to choose, whether it's her going to the Children's Defense Fund to work right out of college.

Whether it's her working on behalf of women and girls all around the world when she was secretary of state. Those were all things that I think are important not just to young women but to families all around the country. That's what she needs to be underscoring and that's what I hope her supporters continue to underscore.

WHITFIELD: All right, and Nomiki you were shaking your head vigorously at the top and then you stopped so, what part do you agree with it that you kind of or trying to assess as to what happened at that moment yesterday and what Hillary Clinton represents. NOMIKI KONST, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I think that -- I think that the

feminist establishment, this institutional feminism that exists in the Democratic Party doubts the intelligence of the millennial feminist. I worked on Hillary Clinton's campaign when I was 12 years old and 15 years old. I am very aware of her record and I admire it and I know that my millennial feminist friends also -- surely is aware of her record.

The difference is they're being faced by the recession. They can connect the dots to the most educated generation in history and they understand that Wall Street, they're the ones who are fighting equal pay -- fighting against equal pay. They are the ones who are setting up this institutional economic -- the problems in the economy, that hurt women the most -- the millennial women the most.

So, when you see Hillary Clinton accepting money from Wall Street, they're connecting dots and saying, you made me strong on women' issues as is Bernie Sanders. If you can't attack the root cause of economic and equality, that hurts the women the most and minorities.

WHITFIELD: And then what was your, you know, interpretation when you first learned of what Gloria Steinem said about, you know, young women trying to meet young men but then she turned around on Facebook as we just, you know, kind of spelled out. And that she said, you know what, she applauds the fact that there are so many more young women involved today than ever before.

KONST: Listen, I admire Gloria Steinem and I admire her for apologizing. I think that she's a little out of touch and I think part of that problem is there's a group of feminist leaders who've been very successful in paving the path for us and we're very grateful for that. The problem is that there's not a lot of inclusivity and I think that their definition of feminism is very different than the millennial definition of feminism because the problems have changed.

You know, we still face problems not the same problems. A lot of them are muted and a little bit more difficult to address but we still face problems and we're addressing them. In fact this is random feminism.

WHITFIELD: Do you feel like there is just a -- at the root of most of this is a generational disconnect. Generational experiences that are just simply different from the millennial women versus women who are over 35.

[16:40:00] KONST: Absolutely. As a woman who is 32 so I'm right on the out there, almost there. I will say that my mother faced very different issued than I did and she was a wonderful role model. And she got me involved in politics, not Hillary Clinton's campaign. But I will say something about the Democratic Party and I hope that they are listening.

When you set metrics for women running for office as to raising a certain amount of money, you are disqualifying a whole group of women out there who -- you know there's organizations that wanted to address woman running for office and not having those funds. But the problem is those women being recruited are asked to raise a certain amount of money before their viable.

WHITFIELD: Okay, Maria, (inaudible) your left.

CARDONA: Fred, just very quick. Okay, I agree with most of what Nomiki said, but I will continue to underscore and this is what Hillary Clinton needs to underscore. There is no one who has fought harder against economic inequality regardless of who she takes money from and her platforms and her proposals have actually been reviewed and said that they are a lot tougher than Bernie Sanders and so again, I would just urge younger women to go and find out what her proposals actually do and that she is the one that can actually get things done here in Washington.

WHITFIELD: All right, Maria Cardona, Nomiki Konst, thanks so much, ladies. Appreciate it.

CARDONA: Thank you Fred.

WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back.

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BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The most important foreign policy issue in the modern history of this country was the war in Iraq. I was right on that issue. Hillary Clinton was wrong.

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[16:45:00] WHITFIELD: His voice may sound weary but these candidates have stamina. They are crisscrossing the state of New Hampshire. The Iowa Democratic Caucus results by the way have just been recounted and the new results show presidential candidate Hillary Clinton wins by an even narrower margin. Clinton winning Iowa 49.84 percent, Berne Sanders, 49.59 percent. Sanders gave a fraction, Hillary losing one. Senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny joining us now with the breakdown of these numbers. What does it mean really?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Well Fredricka, it just shows that it's really a complicated caucus process and Bernie sanders was right in the sense that he thought he had a little more support on Monday. But the State Department said they were not going to review it a couple days ago. They've changed their mind and they reviewed 14 precincts out of 1,600 precincts so a small sample. In five of those precincts, they found that there are actually more Clinton supporters and this was spread across the state.

So, I was talking to an Iowa democratic official who said, look, if we're finding this in 14 precincts, we may, you know, see more otherwise. But they do not want to sort of open this Pandora's box here. She still won but it is very, very close. They essentially split the delegates. That's why things here in New Hampshire are so, so competitive.

WHITFIELD: And then you've been getting the pulse of the voters? ZELENY: We just came from Portsmouth, New Hampshire of a Bernie Sanders rally. So interesting to talk to voters, so many undecided voters, but listen to this snapshot of these voters we talked to. It really gives a sense of where this race is.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're going to go with Hillary because I think she can win and I think she has the same values and I've been a supporter of her for many years.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't think she is believable. I just -- I don't have the good vibe about her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's time for a political revolution and it's time to pay attention to the middle class because we are diminishing.

UNIDENTIFED FEMALE: I'm grateful that these people are running for office but I am terrified of the future of our country. If anyone on the republican side, and it's not party politics, it's the values they represent.

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ZELENY: So, I was struck there by a grandmother and a granddaughter who are both Bernie Sanders supporters. One voted for Hillary Clinton eight years ago but she said she just doesn't trust her now. And then a few minutes later someone said, look, Hillary Clinton may have some trust issues but she's the only one who can beat Republicans. So, that's just a snapshot of what's going on out there in the campaign.

WHITFIELD: And that's the unique thing about New Hampshire because you could be sitting in a restaurant and you listen to the table next to you and everyone is talking about the presidential candidates. They're talking about it as well researched voters.

ZELENY: No kidding, they've been to rallies. They've been reading. They've been watching and they're still going to do it. They have almost, you know, a day and a half to do it.

WHITFIELD: I know the clock is ticking. All right, Jeff Zeleny, thanks so much. Good to see you.

ZELENY: Yeah

WHITFIELD: All right. It is all about New Hampshire today for Bernie Sanders but last night he was live in New York.

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SANDERS: Hold on, hold on, wait a second!

[CHEERS AND APPLUSE]

SANDERS: I am so sad of the one percent getting this preferential treatment. [CHEERS AND APPLUSE]

SANDERS: Enough is enough! We need to unite and work together if we're all going to get through this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sounds like socialism to me!

[LAUGHTER]

SANDERS: Democratic socialism.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the difference?

SANDERS: Huge difference.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huge?

SANDERS: Huge.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huge with a y? Who are you?

SANDERS: I am Bernie Sanderswitski. But we're going to change it when we get to America so it doesn't sound quite so Jewish.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah. That will trick 'em.

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WHITFIELD: Beautiful look at Littleton, New Hampshire. Welcome back to Manchester, New Hampshire. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. All right, so when presidential candidates register for the New Hampshire primary they first have to sign up in person at the Secretary of State's office in Concorde, just a little bit up the street from here. And after filing, they are just steps away from a place where most candidates go.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Good-bye, everybody. See you in (inaudible).

WHITFIELD: In the final push across the Granite State, candidates are energizing big crowds and getting personal. New Hampshire voters are tough, traditionally setting the bar high, expecting face time and demanding candidates understand what they mean.

JENNIFFER HORN, CHAIRMAN NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY: I don't think they want to hear a different message. They want sincerity and consistency but they do also expect these candidates who are running for the highest office in the land to understand their concerns locally as well.

WHITFIELD: Do you think the candidates are put to a test in a different way here?

RAY BUCKLEY, CHAIRMAN NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: Oh, absolutely and really significantly because as president of the State Chair Association, I get to go to all the state party events where often time presidential candidates come and it is like Madonna is showing up or Lady Gaga or some rock star. They're just so amazed that this person is in the same room with them. People don't answer like, yeah, whatever. So, what is your position on nuclear disarmament or you know, what is your position on, you know, health care?

JEB BUSH, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would love to have your vote.

WHITFIRLD: The leaders of the state's democratic and republican parties agree on something else, voters here don't tow the party line.

WHITFIELD: And this is a red state though.

BUCKLEY: Purple state, Fredricka. Purple state.

WHITFIELD: So, anything goes, is that your feeling?

BUCKLEY: We have 43 percent of the electorate -- are independents, plus those who are unregistered vote can register that morning and vote.

HORN: New Hampshire is notoriously independent in their decision making and I say all the time whether they are registered republican or democrat or an independent, they consider themselves to be independent.

WHITFIELD: And any candidate wanting to be chosen must first register at the State Capital.

WHITFIELD: All right, Mr. House Speaker, Shawn Jasper. So, any presidential candidate has to begin right here at the state house before their name ends up on a ballot for primary?

SHAWN JASPER, HOUSE SPEAKER NEW HAMPSHIRE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE: Absolutely. Yes, and only $1,000 to get on the ballot.

WHITFIELD: What makes New Hampshire in your view unique in the presidential race?

JASPER: Well, I think we're unique because we are small state geographically. We have a great diversity of ideas and thoughts within our population.

WHITFIELD: After filing here, candidates are steps away from another Concorde tradition, the Barley House.

WHITFIELD: So Brian, there is your spot, the Barley House and it's become a fixture on the campaign trail.

[16:55:00] BRIAN SHEA: OWNER, THE BARLEY HOUSE: Yes it has. We've pretty much had mostly candidates come in here and not everyone...

WHITFIELD: Restaurant owner Brian Shea says, there's still plenty of time before the general election.

WHITFIELD: You've got pictures of everyone who's been through here especially within the past 15 years.

SHEA: Yes.

WHITFIELD: Michele Bachmann, you've got Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton.

SHEA: There is Newt Gingrich and funny story with Newt Gingrich. He was in here and a reporter asked him, are you seriously running for president? He said of course I am, I'm at The Barley House. So, that kind of confirmed it for us and so it's kind of cool.

WHITFIELD: Many here agree it's pretty cool. Rolling out the welcome mat for all of the candidates and anyone else excited about the first primary state and race to the White House.

BUCKLEY: When people say, oh, why New Hampshire? It is like, there's no walls, come on in. You know, you get to do everything. We don't check IDs when you go into a town hall meeting. You can be a democrat, republican, you can be from California, you can be from Florida.

WHITFIELD: Every candidate, maximizing every minute in the final hours to win New Hampshire.

And it will continue to be an exciting ride. Less than two days now to go before the New Hampshire primary. All right, thanks so much for being with me this weekend here in Manchester. Our coverage continues right after this.

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[17:00:00] POPPY HARLOW, CNN NEWSROOM ANCHOR: Hi, everyone. Top of the hour, 5:00 p.m. eastern. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. Thank you so much for joining us. The final debate before the New Hampshire primary has wrapped, and on Tuesday voters cast their ballots.