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Kasich Bets It All on New Hampshire; Sanders and Clinton Battle for Women's Vote; U.N. Security Council Vows to Punish North Korea; Denver Defense Neutralizes Newton. Aired 10:30-11a ET

Aired February 08, 2016 - 10:30   ET

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[10:30:55] CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning. I'm Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me.

It is do or die time for Ohio Governor John Kasich. He said if he doesn't do well in tomorrow's New Hampshire primaries he's throwing in the towel. The Ohio governor putting his faith in his ground game and his ability to show his personality. Here's what he told CNN this morning about the key to victory.

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GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think the debate helped me because people got to see a little bit more after my personality like they do in the town halls and like they're seeing with this interview.

But, you know, at the end of the day, I put my trust in the people there on the ground. And so we've just been like that little engine that can, and we're going to just roll through the tape. And then we're going to kind of duplicate this going forward.

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COSTELLO: Representative Mike Turner joins us now -- a Kasich supporters. Welcome, Congressman.

REP MIKE TURNER (R), OHIO: Thank you for having me.

COSTELLO: Ok. So do you think that John Kasich will drop out if he doesn't do well in New Hampshire?

TURNER: I think he's going to do great in New Hampshire. You know voters have basically two questions to ask. What is the candidate's position on the issues? And really, you know, can they deliver. And with John Kasich he certainly has the voter's confidence I think in both those.

One, not only just his position on national security, creating jobs and balancing the national budget but he has the ability to point to real accomplishments. It's not just a leap of faith of can he do it, he's done it on the budget. He's balanced the national budget when he was budget chairman. On national security he served on the Armed Services Committee. And on jobs he gets to point to the turnaround in Ohio.

COSTELLO: But he's so positive. He's like the happy warrior. Isn't this election all about anger?

TURNER: Well, I think he's a happy warrior because he has the resume. He can tell people this is not just what I say I'm going to do. This is what I've done. When you look at the turnaround in Ohio, when people say we want jobs -- the country to turn this economy around, they can look and see that he's done that in Ohio. He's the only candidate that's balanced the national debt.

COSTELLO: Why isn't he, like Marco Rubio, consistently slamming President Obama?

TURNER: Well, again, I think John is spending his time talking about what he's done, not just what's been in the past. And that's where I think the voters want to look to. They want to know what the direction he's going to take the country. And he certainly has the ability and I think he's going to have the support of the voters.

COSTELLO: So what do you think about Marco Rubio's debate performance and his -- that repetitive line that he kept tossing out that Obama knows exactly what he's doing?

TURNER: I think it goes to some of the concerns that people have about his candidacy of the depth of experience. And that's where John Kasich makes a big difference there. He is the only candidate as the budget chairman who has been able to balance the national budget.

COSTELLO: Did that hurt Marco Rubio? I guess that's where I'm going. Did that hurt Marco Rubio?

TURNER: I think it certainly did because, you know, with most candidates, again when they turn to what am I going to talk about, they can talk about something they've done. And I think that's where John Kasich, you know, has an edge. In his town halls everywhere, if somebody raises an issue, it doesn't matter what it's going to be -- he's going to be able to say this is what I've done as governor. This is what I've done when I was in Congress. This is what I've done that has made a difference in people's lives.

COSTELLO: So Errol Louis earlier said that Kasich would be a great vice presidential candidate. And then I posed to Errol in the break, I said "Really"? Donald Trump's vice president would be John Kasich?" And Errol said "Stranger things have happened."

TURNER: Well, I think we need to focus on the top of the ticket. And right now John Kasich I believe is the best for that. I think people will see that in New Hampshire. As people have looked at all the candidates and they begin to look at what his resume is, and what he's saying, I think that they'll turn to John Kasich.

COSTELLO: We'll see. We'll see tomorrow. Tomorrow is the big day.

Congressman Turner -- thanks for stopping by.

TURNER: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

COSTELLO: Still to come in the NEWSROOM -- young, female and supporting Bernie Sanders? Some of the world's most famous feminists say support Clinton instead. So what gives? Is there a feminist age rift?

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COSTELLO: It is now or never for White House hopefuls in New Hampshire. Check out these live pictures. Bernie Sanders kicking off one of three rallies in the Granite State today. He's also expected to attend a concert with members of the rock band, Phish.

On your right, Ted Cruz is holding a town hall in Barrington. The Republican Iowa caucus winner will also hold two meet-and-greets today including one with Tea Party members.

On the Democratic side -- well more on the Democratic side, I should say, the battle between Hillary Clinton and Sanders for the women's vote is heating up with polls showing Clinton trailing Sanders in this key demo in New Hampshire. Well, some boldfaced names are now urging women to get behind Hillary Clinton namely Gloria Steinem and former secretary of state, Madeleine Albright.

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GLORIA STEINEM, WOMEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVIST: First of all, women get more radical as we get older. When you're young you're thinking, you know, where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie, or you know.

MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: A lot of you younger women don't think you have to -- it's been done. It's not done, and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you, and just remember, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other.

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[10:40:01] COSTELLO: And a few caveats -- Gloria Steinem later apologized for her remarks. And Madeleine Albright often says that -- she's said that for many, many years. Still it rubbed a lot of young women the wrong way.

Here to talk about this is Anushay Hossein, a journalist at the Anushayspoint.com and Hilary Rosen, a Democratic strategist and adviser to the DNC.

So Anushay, I want to start with you. When you heard Gloria Steinem's comments, when you read about them, what was your first thought?

ANUSHAY HOSSEIN, ANUSHAYSPOINT.COM: My first thought was that oh, my goodness, I can't believe this is happening, and my jaw dropped to the ground. But then, of course, I think it's really important to stipulate that Steinem has spoken out and issued a statement and she said that her statements were taken out of context.

And I think that's really important because I think the story is really annoying. I think it's really annoying. I think we're trying to create smoke where there's no fire, and I think it's condescending to the older generation of women and it's condescending to the younger generation of women.

And I think even though I'm an avid, avid Hillary Clinton supporter -- and if she doesn't win, I'm going to need a lot of therapy -- I think at the end of the day, it comes down to the fact that young women are going to vote about who they want to vote for, and they don't necessarily have to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman. That's the hard truth.

COSTELLO: So Hilary, when I heard those comments and read about those comments -- I love Gloria Steinem -- my heart sank. Because it appeared she was pitting a younger generation of women against an older generation of women. And that's just not helpful.

HILARY ROSEN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Yes. You know, she said something before that little clip that I thought was almost more profound. She said men gain power with age and women lose power with age. And that actually is true. And women, Gloria's age and Madeleine Albright's age have really effectively felt that. That the farther up you go -- and there are studies about this -- the farther up you go in age the harder it is in the work force for women.

But here I totally agree. It was unfortunate. I don't think Gloria Steinem meant to put down young women. Look, this is a woman who has fought for women her whole life. I just think that they're speaking from some personal experience.

I don't think we should hold Hillary accountable for that. She's already said that she wants young women to feel empowered by this campaign, but if young women are not with her, that's ok. She'll still be for them. That's all we can do.

COSTELLO: I get it, but Anushay if you look online many, many young women are totally insulted by this and feel that they're being disrespected.

HOSSEIN: Well, nobody likes to be patronized, and nobody likes to be talked down to. But I mean I completely agree with Hilary Rosen. I mean nobody understands the power and the significance of not only the youth vote but young women's vote better than women like Gloria Steinem, like Madeleine Albright.

So I really think -- I mean she said her statement was taken out of context, that she was interrupted while she was speaking. That's not what she meant. My heart sunk too and I've met Steinem many times. This woman would not be patronizing to young women.

At the same time, there is an issue of ageism within the women's rights movement, and I frankly think it's ironic, and quite sexist for the media to exploit it.

We have much bigger issues to speak about. I don't think this tension needs to be exploited.

COSTELLO: The other thing I wanted to bring up, Hilary --

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COSTELLO: -- well let me bring this up because older women, older feminists have problems with Hillary Clinton too. I talked recently with Susan Sarandon who is not supporting voting Hillary Clinton because of her vote for the Iraq war. It has nothing to do with her gender at all.

ROSEN: Look, you know, Hillary Clinton wants people to be inspired by what she's saying. Not just who she is. I think this is extraordinarily an unfortunate conversation. We have to vote for the person we think will be the best president -- Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton. There's no question about that -- young women, old women; young men, older men.

But I do think that we have to cut women some slack who feel in their own lives that they've been fighting a fight for respect for women. And if the reason that they want to support Hillary is because and including that she is going to be the first woman president, you know, all power to them. That doesn't mean that women looking for other things aren't also legitimate in what they're saying.

So I don't think we can hang all our hopes and dreams on Hillary Clinton as a woman. I think we have to think about who is going to be the best president.

COSTELLO: And I think Anushay, there's among older feminists there's a certain amount of, like, it hurts me that young women don't appear to be grateful for the fight we fought, and the fight we're still fighting. So I think there's that there, too.

HOSSEIN: There is, and young women are like it's hurtful to be, you know, talked down to. The luxury, I guess, of being young is that you don't have to -- you haven't kind of suffered through and lived so much of what the older generation of women have.

[10:45:08] But that being said I completely agree with Hilary Rosen. You have to -- it's about the best candidate. It's about the best person for the job. And if some people don't believe Hillary is the best person, that's what it comes down to.

COSTELLO: All right. I have to leave it there -- thanks to you both.

ROSEN: And this is very generational. Everybody does this.

COSTELLO: I understand. I have to leave it there. Anushay Hossein, Hilary Rosen -- thanks to both of you.

Still to come in the NEWSROOM, the international community is looking at ways it can punish North Korea for launching that long range rocket.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COSTELLO: All right. I'm sorry to have to tell you this, this morning but the Dow is in a free fall right now, off by just -- well, just about 293 points, once again feeling the pressure from the steep drop in oil prices now back under $30 a barrel. Cheap oil is great for drivers but its downfall worries investors who are concerned about the health of the broader economy. We'll keep you posted.

North Korea's launch of a long range rocket is setting off alarms all over the world. It comes just one month after North Korea claimed to have tested a hydrogen bomb. The rocket put a satellite in orbit that reportedly passed over the Super Bowl about an hour after the game.

The U.N. Security Council was quick to condemn the launch. It fears North Korea is on a path to deliver a nuclear weapon as far away as Western Europe or the West Coast of the United States.

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MOTOHIDE YOSHIKAWA, JAPANESE AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: Business as usual will no longer apply. There has been many resolutions which have not been implemented by the DPRK, and we have to work on this basis, working on the new Security Council resolution.

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COSTELLO: Let's bring in chief national security correspondent, Jim Sciutto. He's at the Pentagon. So what's next -- Jim?

JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: One thing, Carol, I've just learned that the U.S. is moving towards the first military response to the North Korean launch. Consultations underway between the U.S. and South Korea as we speak to deploy something called the THAAD -- the Theater High Altitude Area Defense system. It's an anti-missile system to help protect South Korea in the event of a hostile launch from North Korea.

This is something that has been the table for some time. South Korea's been asking this for some time. And the principle reason that the U.S. and the West has hesitated is because China has opposed it because China would see a missile system like this placed so close to its border as diminishing its own nuclear deterrent.

But now after this nuclear test last month, this missile launch over the weekend, South Korea -- appears South Korea and the U.S. are close to making a decision. I'm told by a Defense official that that system can be deployed as soon as the next week or two. So an urgent step, a defensive step here in direct response to that missile launch this weekend from the U.S. and South Korea.

COSTELLO: -- the Pentagon, thank you.

Still to come in the NEWSROOM, Cam Newton was once unstoppable, and then Denver's defense took the field.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COSTELLO: What a spectacular way to break a record. With the Denver Broncos winning Super Bowl 50, Peyton Manning makes history. He passed Brett Favre for the most wins in NFL history with 200. But the real star of the game -- Denver's defense.

Let's get more now from Coy Wire, still outside Levi Stadium in Santa Clara, California. Good morning -- Coy.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS: Good morning, Carol. You know, as a former defensive guy I was loving this game. In the NFL dominant defenses are difference makers. The Denver Broncos were the NFL's top-ranked defense this season, but they were still the underdogs in this game.

All week all they heard about was how unstoppable Cam Newton was. Well, led by Super Bowl MVP, Von Miller, the Broncos annihilated the NFl's most potent offensive weapon this season. Cam was sacked seven times on the night, tying a Super Bowl record set 30 years ago by the Chicago Bears. Cam Newton didn't score, he didn't flex, he didn't do his famous dab dance that Carol does so well. He was under duress the whole, sent home deflated and defeated.

I talked to some of Denver's defensive stars after the game about their big performance.

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AQIB TALIB, DENVER BRONCOS: I think there was a number one scoring offense in the league. The boys had ten points.

DARIAN STEWART, DENVER BRONCOS: I told them, man, we were the best, and we -- just across the board, we had the talent, man. No one believed in us. We went out and handled our business.

PEYTON MANNING, DENVER BRONCOS: I'm just glad that I was on the same team as our defense and I didn't have to play against them.

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WIRE: Now, that defense allowed the legendary Peyton Manning to win his second Super Bowl title, becoming the first quarterback in NFL history to win one with two different te4ams. He's now the winningest quarterback to ever play the game.

He said that this maybe his last rodeo. And if so, what an incredible story, Carol; Peyton will go down as the one of the greatest American sports figures of all time and we got to watch a maestro and master of his craft last night win it all.

COSTELLO: He was. He was amazing. You know, Cam Newton was amazing all year long. I felt kind of sorry for him. But he made a lot of mistakes, as did his team.

WIRE: Yes, they did. That's what the story wants to say. But if you really look at it, it's not what they didn't do. It's what Denver did. I mean they were just so dominant in that game. They were playing with their hair on fire like they were out there with not just a chip on their shoulder but like the whole potato -- Carol.

It was awesome. It was so great to be here. And I was happy to be able to share some of this story with you today.

COSTELLO: So if you were a betting man, do you think Peyton Manning will call it a day?

WIRE: I think he's done. I have a titanium plate and four screws in my neck just like he does from playing the game. Hang them up -- Peyton. Hang them up. You're good, buddy. Two Super Bowls -- you're gone.

COSTELLO: Yes. And you know, I read an article about Joe Montana and the physical ailments that he has after playing so long in the NFL.

WIRE: Yes.

COSTELLO: I mean he can't play tennis. He can't play basketball with his kids. He's like a mess. He's in pain all the time.

WIRE: Yes. Arthritis in his hands, you know. We spent some time with him. Chris Cuomo was here for our Super Bowl special that we had. And he was talking about some of the ailments that Joe was sharing with him.

[11:00:07] COSTELLO: All right. Coy Wire, I have to leave it there. Thanks so much.

Thank you for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello.

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