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Obama Unveils Plan to Close Guantanamo Bay; Syrian Government Signs On to Cease-Fire Deal; Republican Caucuses Prior to Super Tuesday; Afghan Troops Lose Key Parts of Helmand Province; Egyptian Court Sentences 3-Year Old to Jail; Protests Cause Water Shortage in Delhi; Michigan Shooting Suspect Charged; Bill Gates Weighs in on Apple Controversy; Telegram Founder Asked about App's Secrecy; South Africa's Booming Wine Industry; Russian DiCaprio Lookalike. Aired 11a-12p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Could there be a cease-fire in Syria?
We'll tell you who signed on.
But just as important, who is left out?
A live report and a plan coming up.
Also ahead, caucus day in Nevada, Republican presidential hopefuls vying for support and Donald Trump hoping for a third win. Now on the race for
the White House this hour.
Plus kids are back in the classroom after New Delhi suffered a water shortage. We'll get the latest on the situation in India's capital.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Live from CNN Center, this is CONNECT THE WORLD.
ASHER: And you'll have those stories in just a moment. But first, U.S. President Barack Obama says the military prison, Guantanamo Bay, is a stain
on America's reputation and that it's time to change course.
Mr. Obama is making a final push to close the facility in Cuba. Just moments ago he unveiled a plan that he submitted today to Congress. It
would transfer some of the 91 remaining prisoners to other countries while the most dangerous ones would be moved to a facility in the United States,
a facility yet to be determined.
Mr. Obama says Guantanamo Bay has become a powerful recruitment tool for terrorists.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: For many years it's been clear that the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay does not enhance our
national security. It undermines it.
This is not just my opinion. This is the opinion of experts. This is the opinion of many in our military. It's counter-productive to our fight
against terrorists because they use it as propaganda in their efforts to recruit.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ASHER: President Obama speaking there just a short time ago. Let's get more now from Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr.
Barbara, you listened to the president's speech. He's been wanting to close Guantanamo Bay since 2009.
Did you think he made his case effectively, you think?
BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: I think you'll see -- and the president acknowledging this -- this is a political firestorm in
Washington. Most Republicans, many Republicans and Democrats do not support moving any of the detainees to federal prisons or military prisons
inside the United States. That's the real bottom line problem here.
The president wants to transfer as many detainees overseas, back to their home countries for monitoring as he can, get the population down to 30 to
60 and then transfer those people to prison facilities or military prisons in the U.S., build a new facility if needed. Keep them secure here, keep
them going through their legal process.
And that's what Congress objects to. There's a good deal of opposition about that. There is a current law, the president signed the bill, that
banned spending any money on that.
There had been talk that maybe the president would take executive action, just issue an order and make it so. But you didn't hear that today. What
you heard is he wants to talk to Congress about it, he wants to work with Congress. But he was very clear he knows there's a lot of political
hurdles to all of this -- Zain.
ASHER: Yes, and he only has another month in office, we'll see how quickly the process begins. OK, Barbara Starr, live for us there, thank you so
On to another story we are following out of the Middle East, the Syrian government is now signing onto a cease-fire agreement due to take effect in
just a few days.
The main opposition group also backs the truce brokered by Russia and the United States. But critically, two of the most powerful forces on the
battlefield, ISIS and Al-Nusra Front, are not part of the deal. And that means that attacks by them and against them could continue, raising
concerns about how effective any cease-fire may be.
I want to bring in our Nick Paton Walsh, who has been covering this story from Beirut.
So Nick, a lot of people are skeptical about the cease-fire.
How will it be monitored?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SR. INTL. CORRESPONDENT: There's hope, I think the NGOs on the ground and obviously the equipment that Russia and U.S. have
often in the air to observe these kinds of things will be in use.
But we'll hear about any violation until pretty far past all the warring parties on the addition side have their social media activists, who are
extraordinarily busy much of the time.
But the key issue is exactly who is, quote, "the terrorist" in all of this. Now the deal is clear that ISIS and the face of Al Qaeda in Syria, who are
both proscribed by the United Nations Security Council as terrorist troops are not part of the deal and that Russia and the U.S. Can continue to
attack them, as can the Syrian regime.
A slight complexity comes into the mix here when you read the Syrian government's statement today, Moscow was quite clear they would get
Damascus on board. That statement came out saying they will abide --
WALSH: -- by the terms of the cease-fire. But there's a little nuance in their language. They say they don't believe that ISIS and Nusra are part
of the deal. Fine. That's what deal says.
But they also say in sort of varied language here that Al Qaeda-linked groups and their ideas, in their view may also not be part of it, too. Now
if you read U.N. Security Council language, Al Qaeda-linked groups technically perhaps fall under their proscription as well. It's very hard
to really tell quite who thinks what, at this stage, and who is right.
But at least the last two, what many are concerned of, the West criticizes Russia for effectively launching verbally a campaign against ISIS but in
reality attacking the Syrian moderate opposition, who have been at war with the Damascus regime for some time.
The fear is that this could potentially occur again. There could be a cease-fire in name, excluding ISIS and Nusra, but the Russians and the
regime continue to go after those moderate opposition they always have sought to attack. So that's the fear. That's what people are looking for
when the clock turns from Friday to Saturday.
Remember, we have until noon Damascus time on Friday for everyone to get on board with this. There's still one important missing fact with all of
this. It's all very nice the White House and the Kremlin discussing the terms. We have yet to here from the Syrian armed opposition groups. Their
political leadership has made noises that they think they can go along with this; the Syrian government has spoken but we haven't heard from armed
And in fact one -- key one of them is saying they are still talking about what their response is going to be -- Zain.
ASHER: Yes, we'll see whether the guns fall silent as it were, midnight Friday and Saturday. OK, Nick Paton Walsh, live for us there, thank you so
ASHER: The Western state of Nevada is in the spotlight Tuesday. Republican voters there will weigh in hours from now in the state's
caucuses. Republican Donald Trump is still riding high from his victory in South Carolina and rivals like Marco Rubio are trying desperately to knock
him out of the top spot.
Rubio is holding a rally. Right now you see live pictures there. That's just going 8 o'clock in the morning, this is in Las Vegas. CNN politics
reporter Sara Murray explains what's at stake in Nevada and why the GOP establishment is running out of time to stop Trump.
SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump is hoping to lock in another win in Nevada.
DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Forget the word caucus.
Just go out and vote, OK?
MURRAY (voice-over): While Marco Rubio appears set on amassing endorsements.
BOB DOLE, REPUBLICAN: I'm supporting Rubio.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's conservative and he's electable.
MURRAY (voice-over): And is arguing it's time for Republicans to rally behind him as the alternative to Trump -- before it's too late.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLA., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If we nominate someone that half of the Republican Party hates, we're going to be fighting against
each other all the way to November. We will never win that way.
MURRAY (voice-over): But right now, Donald Trump's blows are firmly trained on Ted Cruz.
TRUMP: This guy is sick. There's something wrong with this guy.
MURRAY (voice-over): Just hours before voters cast their ballots in the unpredictable caucus state of Nevada --
TRUMP: You know, it is Las Vegas; it's a little tricky, a little tricky.
MURRAY (voice-over): -- Cruz was still trying to nix the narrative that his campaign plays dirty.
TRUMP: This guy, Cruz, lies more than any human being I have ever dealt with. Unbelievable!
RUBIO: Every single day something comes out of the Cruz campaign that's deceptive and untrue.
MURRAY (voice-over): Yesterday Cruz fired his communications director.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: This morning I asked for Rick Tyler's resignation.
MURRAY (voice-over): That's after the staffer distributed a video that appeared inaccurately to show Marco Rubio dismissing the Bible.
RUBIO: Perhaps that was the most offensive one because they basically made it up.
MURRAY (voice-over): As Cruz struggled to regroup, John Kasich had his own awkward campaign moment, saying women left their kitchens to support his
1970s statehouse bid.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R), OHIO: We just got an army of people who -- and many women, who left their kitchens to go out and go door-to-door and to put
yard signs up for me.
MURRAY (voice-over): His offhand comment quickly called out by a voter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'll come to support you but I won't be coming out of the kitchen.
KASICH: I got you. I got you.
ASHER: It's an exciting time to be a political reporter. CNN's political director David Chalian joins us live now from Washington.
So, David, I want to show our viewers the polls right now because Trump is currently leading with 45 percent. You see Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz almost
vaguely sort of neck and neck, Rubio slightly ahead. But the thing is, David, Nevada is notoriously difficult to poll.
Can we trust these numbers, do you think?
DAVID CHALIAN, CNN POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Right, that poll is also from a week ago. It is our poll. And I trust that it was a snapshot of where the
race stood a week ago but that was before Donald Trump's South Carolina victory, before what transpired in the last week of the campaign.
I think on a voting day like this, Zain, it's just better to put the polls aside. Clearly Donald Trump is the dominant force in this race. I don't
think that's any different in Nevada than we have seen it in New Hampshire or South Carolina. That being said --
CHALIAN: -- this is going to be a place where Marco Rubio has some history. He spent some of his growing up in Nevada. He grew up a part of
his time as a Mormon. Nevada has a big Mormon population. So there may be some advantages for Marco Rubio to try to make a dent there.
But I sense, just from looking at Marco Rubio's campaign schedule, you just showed the live picture there of getting ready for his rally this morning,
after that he's not sticking around for the results in Nevada, he's heading off to Minnesota and to Michigan, which don't vote until March 1st and
March 8th because he realizes there are lots of other places where he could try to collect delegates rather than put everything into the Nevada basket
ASHER: Yes, he's moving ahead. I do want to talk about Democrats quickly because they have had one major issue and that is with voter turnout.
Let's assume, let's look into our crystal ball and assume that it's Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump come this time November.
Is that going to be a huge problem in the general election in November for Clinton if she can't get Democrats to turn out for her?
CHALIAN: I don't think that that will be a problem. First of all, we should clarify. Although the Democratic turnout is not showing up in the
way that the Republican turnout is so far and, yes, it's not reaching 2008 levels, which obviously was a unique event with Barack Obama and Hillary
Clinton in the Democratic contest in 2008, it is still turnout that is substantially higher than we saw in 2004.
It's not as if this is the lowest turnout in Democratic primaries; it's just that the action has really been on the Republican side.
But you are right. This is a bit of a warning sign because Hillary Clinton, to get elected president, has to recreate the Obama coalition,
turning out young voters, African Americans, Hispanics in greater numbers than we have seen before. And so she can't really let her guard down on
And I have no doubt in talking to folks in the Clinton campaign, they see these numbers and they know that they have to work to make sure that Obama
coalition comes out in November if, indeed, she is the nominee.
ASHER: yes. Hugely important for her. OK, David Chalian, appreciate you breaking that down for us. Thank you so much.
CHALIAN: Sure. Thank you.
ASHER: CNN is hosting a Democratic town hall in South Carolina in about nine hours from now. You can catch it in Abu Dhabi at about 5:00 am in the
morning on Wednesday pretty early but only right here, of course, on CNN.
Still to come tonight, as Afghan government forces suffer another blow in the fight against the Taliban, could the talks be the solution?
And it's the company that once had the slogan, quote, "Think different." But Apple's way of thinking is at odds with the FBI. Now a famous tech
pioneer says the company should cooperate and help unlock a terrorist's iPhone. That's coming up in just a couple minutes.
ASHER: You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Zain Asher. Welcome back. Appreciate you being with us on this Tuesday evening.
The Afghan government is hoping to launch fresh peace talks with the Taliban; officials from the U.S., China and Pakistan and Afghanistan met in
Kabul earlier, hoping to get a new date for discussions. A previous round of talks fell apart last year. On the ground, in the meantime, war rages
on. Afghan government troops have retreated from two key districts in Helmand province, it's the latest sign of Taliban's resurgence across the
CNN's Ivan Watson explains why the latest losses are so significant.
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The battle for control of Afghanistan's Helmand Province has been raging off and on ever
since the U.S.-led bombing campaign overthrew the Taliban in 2001.
Here in Southern Afghanistan, Helmand has traditionally been seen as a Taliban stronghold.
WATSON (voice-over): It is one of the most important regions for the production of poppies, the flowers used to make opium, which makes Helmand
a major center for drugs processing and shipping. And that's one main reason why the Afghan government and its Western supporters do not want to
lose Helmand to the Taliban.
But the Afghan military's decision to pull troops out of two districts in Helmand is prompting concern that the Taliban could now stand to gain
ground. These are the two areas that Afghan government forces abandoned this month, Musa Kala and Nawzad.
The military says it was tactical and could be reversed at any time but a senior Afghan official in Helmand tells CNN the move is wrong and
irresponsible. He says taking troops out of these districts may have a domino effect, pushing three neighboring districts, Kajaki, Sangin and
Washir, to the brink of collapse.
Late last year, the Taliban nearly took full control of Sangin district before Afghan forces were able to fight back and take back some of the
area. Foreign combat troops officially withdrew at the end of 2014. But Britain deployed a small contingent to Helmand last December to provide
support to the embattled Afghan forces.
And earlier this month, the U.S. announced it is doing the same. Both the U.S. and Britain have spent lives and treasure in the long battle to
control Helmand as part of the NATO combat mission in Afghanistan.
Since 2001, more than 900 foreign troops have been killed fighting in Helmand Province.
And Kajaki district is also home to a huge hydroelectric dam, built with millions of dollars from the U.S. to provide electricity for the province
and surrounding areas. The loss of the dam and other parts of Helmand would be a major strategic and financial setback for the long U.S.-led war
against the Taliban in Afghanistan -- Ivan Watson, CNN.
ASHER: And our international diplomatic editor, Nic Robertson, has reported widely from Afghanistan. He joins us live now from London.
So, Nic, Ivan Watson touched on this briefly but do we have any more specifics about why the Afghan troops have pulled out?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: They were taking a lot of fire, a lot of casualties and it was felt that they could no longer
hold it realistically without taking greater even casualties.
If you look at the past year or so, the Afghans have lost huge numbers of troops. Thousands upon thousands of troops last year, the year before in
their fight against the Taliban. The Taliban have been looking to try and to take control of a sizable chunk of the country, just such as Northern
Helmand here, and extend that control to give them a base of operations for training, for recruitment, as a safe area where they won't be attacked by
government ground forces.
They tried doing this late last year in Kunduz in the north. Eventually the government, after several weeks, was able to reorganize with the help
of U.S. special forces and push the Taliban out -- Zain.
ASHER: In the meantime, what sort of support are the Afghan troops getting from the British and the Americans?
ROBERTSON: Training: this is one of the basics. But also you have this special forces help as well. That went disastrously wrong in Kunduz when
U.S. special forces on the ground with Afghan soldiers called in air support. And it tragically hit a Medecins sans Frontieres, Doctors without
But that is the sort of thing -- that is the sort of firepower relief that the Afghans, in close coordination, if U.S. special forces are there with
them on the ground to be able to bring in that kind of firepower. It can make a difference in the battle on the ground, it can turn the battle
around in the Afghan government favor.
ROBERTSON: But the problem in Northern Helmand, Nawzad and as we talk about Musa Kara as well, it's holding them over the long term. You need
large numbers of troops that are well equipped and have political support in those towns. And that's really where the government seems to be falling
down at the moment -- Zain.
ASHER: And it does appear to be some glimmer of hope with potential peace talks but we'll see what happens if they lead anywhere. Nic Robertson,
live for us there, thank you so much.
Live from CNN Center, this is CONNECT THE WORLD. Coming up, an Uber driver accused of going on a shooting rampage is now charged in the U.S. state of
Michigan. We'll have the latest on the investigation.
Plus Donald Trump is still the man to beat in the Republican race for the White House and the Republican establishment is finding it increasingly
hard to stop him.
So how would world leaders deal with a possible President Trump?
That's coming up.
ASHER: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD, live from CNN Center, welcome back, I'm Zain Asher.
Now to a dramatic rescue from ISIS. Kurdish special forces say they rescued a 16-year-old girl from the terror group during a raid near the
northern Iraqi city of Mosul. The young woman is from Sweden. And according to Kurdish authorities, she was recruited by an ISIS member to
travel to Syria then she crossed into Iraq.
Authorities say she will be returned home to her family.
We're going to turn now to a very bizarre story out of Egypt. A 3-year-old boy has been sentenced to life in prison for a crime he allegedly committed
when he was just 16 months old. Ian Lee is following this story from Cairo.
So, Ian, this is quite a bizarre yet serious case of mistaken identity.
IAN LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You're exactly right, bizarre and very serious. Just to reiterate what you said, Ahmed Sharara was 16 months old
when the state accuses him of killing three people and damaging state and public property. Ahmed could barely talk at the time. Now the police is
saying that this is, in fact, mistaken identity, that the person they are looking for is his 50-year-old uncle or an uncle in his 50s.
But to add to confusion of all this, the army is saying that Ahmed Sharara is, in fact, a 16-year-old teenager. So it doesn't even look like the
state actually knows who, in fact, they are looking for. But this boy, this now 3-year-old toddler, has had his name in this court case.
ASHER: And one thing I find quite interesting is about that, when the police first came to arrest this toddler, they ended up taking his father
instead, which really just speaks to wider issues with Egypt's judicial system.
LEE: That's right. So you have the police coming to his household. They are looking for Ahmed. The father presents the birth certificate, shows
Ahmed as being a toddler.
The police, not leaving empty-handed, take the father to the police station and it's four months later that he is released from jail after talking to a
judge and showing the paperwork that he is, not, in fact, Ahmed, telling the judge that he is -- that his -- that Ahmed is a toddler --
LEE: -- despite that, Ahmed, his name is still involved in this case. But it does speak to the broader situation here in Egypt, talking to human
rights advocates there, saying that this is actually quite common where you have mistaken identity. You have cases where someone who is accused of a
crime literally couldn't be the person that committed that crime because they were already in prison when that alleged crime occurred.
So they say this is just rampant throughout Egypt and other instances where you have hundreds of people arrested for a crime, that the investigation
lasts about 24 hours, yet 100 people are all given one sentence, that these trials don't last very long either. And so one advocate, the human rights
advocate told us that it really just shows the mistrust that Egyptian people have with their judiciary when you have cases like this constantly
ASHER: Yes. But thankfully the case with this toddler was eventually cleared up. Ian Lee, thank you so much. Appreciate that.
The latest world news headlines just ahead. Plus about 10 million Indians have been affected by a water shortage. We'll show you the source of the
crisis and how people are trying to adapt. That's coming up.
ASHER (voice-over): Welcome back. This is CONNECT THE WORLD. The top stories at this hour.
ASHER: Schools in New Delhi have reopened after being shut for a day due to a water shortage. That's after violent protests disrupted a key water
station. But the crisis is not yet over. CNN's Sumnima Udas shows us what's behind it and how people are coping.
SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're at one of 150 water tanker filling stations in New Delhi. Since the crisis began, they have been operating
all day; every five to seven minutes or so a water tanker truck like this one has been arriving. They have been filling it up and going to
neighborhoods nearby in the northwest of Delhi. This one headed to a colony around the corner. And we're going to go along and see what
UDAS (voice-over): "We're going to block C4G; we've been getting calls all day for water," he says.
As soon as the water tank arrives, residents emerge from what seems like nowhere, one after another.
UDAS: Word has spread that water tankers arrived so we've seen people coming from all over the neighborhood with their buckets, containers like
these, even kettles, basically, whatever container they have to fill up as much water as they can. They haven't received any water here for the past
three days. And this is the first time the water tanker has arrived.
UDAS (voice-over): They jostle for space. They argue as one asks the other to wait on line, the other shouts back, "Don't take more than two
"We can live without a shower but what about cooking and cleaning utensils, what about flushing our toilets? It's become so difficult nowadays. Every
morning I just dream about water," she says.
Seventy-two-year-old Lakshmi Ramaswami has gone back and forth three times already. Anything more than this steel urn would be too heavy. She shows
me how she's been storing what's become her prize possession.
She's rationing. She doesn't know when the water tanker truck will arrive again.
From the elderly to the youngest in this family, everyone pitches in, collecting every last drop. It only took 15 minutes to empty out this
truck. Now back to the filling station to carry out this routine all over again -- Sumnima Udas, CNN, New Delhi.
ASHER: The latest poll shows Donald Trump with a significant lead in Nevada. There seems to be no stopping him. It's the last major contest
for the Republicans before Super Tuesday. And few deny Trump that could emerge as nominee. It's looking realistic at this point.
Atika Shubert takes a look at how a possible Trump presidency would be received on the world stage.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump, real estate mogul turned reality star turned presidential candidate,
is now the front-runner to become the Republican nominee.
But how would world leaders deal with a possible President Trump?
Well, here is what they said so far.
"Divisive, stupid and wrong," said British prime minister, David Cameron, when Trump wanted to ban Muslims from traveling to the U.S.
And the great wall of Trump to keep illegal Mexican immigrants out of the U.S., well, Pope Francis called it, quote, "not Christian."
"Enormous ignorance" and "irresponsible" is how Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto described Trump's wall.
Even his former business partner, Prince Al-Waleed of Saudi Arabia who says he bailed Trump out of at least two financial transactions in which Trump
was underwater, called the Donald "a disgrace."
Trump's response, he called the prince, quote, "dopey."
The only world leader with a kind word for Trump has been Russian president Vladimir Putin, "a very colorful and talented man," Putin said of Trump.
But even Harry Potter creator, J.K. Rowling, has denounced Trump as, quote, "worse than Voldemort."
But now with Trump as the leading Republican contender, world leaders may actually have to give some thought of how to deal with a possible "he who
must not be named" for president -- Atika Shubert, CNN.
ASHER: And you can keep up with all of the candidates on our website, just go to cnn.com/politics.
And there is still no motive in the deadly shooting over the weekend in the U.S. state of Michigan. Suspect Jason Dalton appeared in court on Monday
via video link. He's been charged with murder and is being --
ASHER: -- held without bail. Police say the Uber driver carried out an hours-long shooting rampage, killing six people and leaving two wounded.
CNN's Ryan Young is live in Kalamazoo for us. And that is where the shootings actually took place.
So, Ryan, we are learning a little bit more about the suspect. Apparently he switched cars during the course of the night in between killings and
then actually picked up more passengers.
What more do we know?
RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Zain, that's been the conversation so far. They are trying to get that timeline all the way together with this one.
We do know they believe that he switched cars, going from one car that he may have damaged as he was driving erratically, to another car.
In fact, one of the Uber passengers said when the car arrived, it didn't look like the one on the app. Still a lot of questions about exactly what
he was doing and the phone call he received while he was driving around.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you Jason Brian Dalton?
JASON DALTON, UBER DRIVER: Yes.
YOUNG (voice-over): Shackled, wearing an orange jumpsuit, the 45-year-old Uber driver, accused of killing six and injuring two, appearing in court
for the first time via video, showing no emotion as the judge read the 16 charges against him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there anything you wish to tell the court?
DALTON: I would prefer just to remain silent.
YOUNG (voice-over): At a probable cause hearing, detectives testified that Dalton admitted to, quote, "taking people's lives."
For seven hours Saturday, investigators say Dalton roamed the streets, targeting his victims at random, gunning them down all while picking up
fares between and even after the attacks.
One of those passengers, identified only as Derek (ph), was dropped off by Dalton just 20 minutes before he was arrested.
DEREK (PH), UBER PASSENGER: I said you're not the shooter, are you?
And he said, no.
And I said, are you sure?
And he kind of just said, "No, I'm just tired. I've been driving for seven hours."
YOUNG (voice-over): His youngest victim, 14-year-old Abigail Kopf, clinging to life in the hospital, so critically injured police announced
her dead before she miraculously squeezed her mother's hand.
VICKI KOPF, ABIGAIL'S MOTHER: She is alive and she is fighting for her life. I want everybody to understand that. Abigail is strong and she was
a vibrant, beautiful, young lady and did not deserve this.
YOUNG (voice-over): Law environment seizing 11 rifles from inside Dalton's home. According to Uber, Dalton had passed a background check and received
favorable feedback. Investigators trying to unravel a motive for why a married father of two with no criminal record would carry out such a cold-
DAVID PFAFF, PRINCIPAL, EASTERN HANCOCK HIGH SCHOOL: It was an awful, awful feeling to know that someone who you had once worked with and been
relatively close to was capable of something like that.
YOUNG: There was another vigil here last night. And a lot of people still asking that question, why. They were hoping maybe investigators could lead
them to that. We talked to the police chief here today. He said so far there are no answers to what may have set this man off.
ASHER: And Ryan, you mentioned in your piece that there is one 14-year-old girl, who was seriously injured in all of this.
Do you have any updates on her condition?
YOUNG: Well, this is the scary part about this. She was so gravely injured, they were actually keeping her body connected because she was an
organ donor. And they were trying to keep her alive for that. And apparently her mom had her hand and she started squeezing her mom's hand.
She's still alive. And we're told some of the way they tried to save her she may end up being brain dead.
But right now her mother says she is fighting for her life. And you can understand why this entire community is pulling for her.
ASHER: So sad. And of course our thoughts are with her family. OK. Ryan Young, live for us there, thank you so much.
Live from CNN Center, this is CONNECT THE WORLD. Coming up, preparing for protests, demonstrations are expected today in support of a controversial
decision by Apple. We'll have details coming up.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Do you feel that Telegram is in any way responsible for what happened?
ASHER (voice-over): CNN speaks exclusively to the founder of an app that's causing some controversy because of the way it operates. We'll have
details in just a moment.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ASHER: You're watching CNN and this is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Zain Asher. Welcome back.
Demonstrations are taking place today to back a decision by Apple not to unlock the iPhone of San Bernardino shooter Sayed Farouk. Here in the
U.S., protests are expected outside Apple stores in 30 cities.
But a new poll suggests that 51 percent of people surveyed think Apple should unlock the iPhone. And that number could include Bill Gates
himself, although Gates now says the headlines he supports FBI went a little bit too far; here is part of what he told the "Financial Times."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BILL GATES, ENTREPRENEUR: Apple has access to the information. They're just refusing to provide the access and the courts will tell them whether
to provide the access or not.
You shouldn't call the access some special thing. It's no different than, you know, should anybody have ever been able to tell the phone company to
get information; bank records, should anybody be able to get at bank records?
There's no difference between information. The government's come asking for a specific set of information.
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ASHER: For more on this I'm joined by CNNMoney's Samuel Burke.
So the fact that Bill Gates, at least on the surface, appears to support the FBI, how surprising is that?
SAMUEL BURKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's a huge shock for a lot of people in the tech community. You see Facebook, Twitter, every big tech company
out there, as well as some medium and small ones that I'm speaking with, come out in defense of Apple. And so he's really broken ranks here. And
of course he is one of the tech giants of his time. So people really listen.
That said, some of the tech executives with whom I've spoken said they really don't feel that he's -- they feel that he's mischaracterizing, even
though he's saying Apple is doing it, they feel like he's mischaracterizing, even some said misunderstanding what Apple was trying to
do with their encryption here.
So definitely this is something that Apple didn't want and it's also something that the United States government definitely would like to have.
They would like to have more tech executives coming out in their favor. So this is -- bodes well for the FBI for sure.
ASHER: And Samuel, we need you to look into your crystal ball for me. You've been covering this story for quite a while now.
Despite the outcry, despite the protests in support of Apple, can Apple really fight the U.S. government and win?
BURKE: That's a really good point, Zain, because what I'm hearing from the people who support Apple, they say, wow, thank God it's not my company
having to do that, because they realize there is a huge burden on Apple to try and explain this very complicated scenario. And they have to have a
lot of money to do it.
You showed the opinion polls. And the fact that the FBI has chosen and many people do believe that they have specifically chosen this case, to
bring it to the public, makes it that much more difficult.
You look at those attacks in California. Many people might consider them terrorist attacks. And you think I don't want that to happen to me. If I
have to give up some security, I'm willing to do that. So this is a case that is definitely going to be an uphill battle for Apple, no matter what
ASHER: And, Samuel, for those of us who are not techies, who are not tech geeks, tech experts, just explain why is it that Apple and the phone
companies can't give information on the phone to the FBI without having to create completely new software.
BURKE: You and I have reported on so many hackings. And people have said we want the companies to do something.
Well, this has been Apple's response to hacking, to make a system so secure that not even Apple can get into it. Now they can rebuild the system,
which is what Apple is saying they will have to do, they'll have to completely rebuild iOS, the operating system of Apple, to get back in and
then they could do it.
But they are worried, as are many other tech companies, that if they build a back door, the United States government will come again and again, as
will hackers through that back door and possibly even other governments.
ASHER: So this fight could get ugly. I cannot wait to see how it turns out, though.
ASHER: Samuel Burke, live for us there in London, I think. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
ASHER: Concerns about privacy are leading some to look for more secure ways to send information. That's where apps like Telegram come in, it
allows people to safely send encrypted messages.
But what happens when dangerous people take advantage of such technology?
Telegram's cofounder spoke exclusively to our Erin McLaughlin. Take a listen.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is the man at the center of the global encryption debate. Russian exile Pavel Durov says he
prefers to remain in the shadows. A self-described introvert, normally he doesn't give television interviews. Durov says he wants to explain the
company he co-founded, Telegram.
It's a messaging app that you download for free on your smartphone. Telegram offers encrypted communication, the kind authorities can't easily
intercept. The app's found on the phones of journalists, activists and business leaders.
But Telegram has a darker side. It was also found on terrorists' phones on the bloodied streets of Paris.
MCLAUGHLIN: Did that thought cross your mind, when you saw what was happening in Paris, that Telegram could be involved?
Did you think about it?
PAVEL DUROV, TECH ENTREPRENEUR: You know, of course, we are concerned about the potential use of the technology we make.
MCLAUGHLIN: So you were concerned?
DUROV: Of course.
MCLAUGHLIN (voice-over): ISIS later used Telegram to claim responsibility for the attacks.
MCLAUGHLIN: Do you feel that Telegram is in any way responsible for what happened?
DUROV: I don't think so. They were also using iPhones and Android phones and microchips. It's kind of misleading to say that we were responsible or
any other tech company's responsible for that.
MCLAUGHLIN (voice-over): But many say technology is part of the problem.
DAVID CAMERON, PRIME MINISTER, GREAT BRITAIN: In our country, do we want to allow a means of communication between people which even in extremis,
with a signed warrant from the home secretary personally, that we cannot read?
DUROV: You cannot make messaging technology secure for everybody except for terrorists. So it's either secure or not secure.
MCLAUGHLIN: This isn't just about terrorism, it's also about criminals, drugs, human traffickers, pedophiles, all have access to your app.
DUROV: When I was living in Russia a few years ago, all of these activities were used as a pretext to monitor the communication of Russian
citizens and then, in many cases, used to suppress dissidents and liberal thinking.
MCLAUGHLIN (voice-over): It was 2011. Mass opposition protests in the streets of Moscow. Durov was the CEO of the company he founded, VK,
Russia's equivalent to Facebook. He says he publicly refused to block pages of Russian opposition activists.
DUROV: I had a group of armed policemen trying to get into my home. Then I started to think about ways to, like, defend myself, get in touch with my
brother. And I realized that there are very few options for us to communicate securely.
MCLAUGHLIN (voice-over): Durov eventually lost control of VK and left Russia. He started Telegram, believing people have a right to secure
communication. The question many are now asking -- at what price?
ASHER: That was our Erin McLaughlin reporting there.
Live from CNN Center, this is CONNECT THE WORLD. Coming up, its economy is in difficulty but South Africa's wine industry is, in fact, booming. We
will take a look at why it is now said to be the seventh biggest wine producer in the world. You won't want to miss that story.
And in tonight's "Parting Shots," we'll show you Leonardo DiCaprio's twin. Well, kind of. This Russian man the one on the right of course, has been
gaining fame for resembling the Hollywood star. That's coming up in just a moment.
ASHER: Welcome back, everybody.
Bristol Zoo in England is celebrating after this cute adorable little baby gorilla born in a rare Caesarean section. It was delivered in the unusual
way after the mother showed life-threatening symptoms. The baby was born, weighing just 1 kilogram only.
You're watching CNN and this is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Zain Asher, welcome back.
South Africa's economy is in a gloomy place. It is, in fact, on the brink of recession with rising unemployment as well.
But the wine industry there is telling a very different story. It is now, in fact, the seventh largest world producer and exports are booming.
CNNMoney's Africa correspondent, Eleni Giokos, went to a South African wine yard -- vineyard, excuse me -- to see who is buying their product.
NTSIKI BIYELA, SOUTH AFRICAN WINEMAKER: You know, when you're talking about something that you smell and then it's just so, I'm going to use the
word, very seductive.
ELENI GIOKOS, CNNMONEY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Ntsiki Biyela is South Africa's first black female winemaker.
BIYELA: It draws you in.
GIOKOS (voice-over): This is Ntsiki's 12th harvest. But she didn't always enjoy drinking wine. She had to be converted when she first started out.
GIOKOS: Did you drink wine at the time, though?
BIYELA: No. What is wine?
GIOKOS (voice-over): This is true for the rest of South Africa. In the world's seventh largest wine producer, beer still wins.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: South Africa has got an extremely low consumption of wine. Only 6 liters per capita. We consume 60 liters of beer. We're a
beer drinking nation.
GIOKOS (voice-over): Representing 4 percent of global output, more than half of South Africa's wine is destined for the export market. So
winemakers like Ntsiki are turning international and chasing new connections.
GIOKOS: From Stellenbosch to Texas, tell me about this.
GIOKOS: Fascinating, an unlikely route but it exists.
BIYELA: Actually I wanted to (INAUDIBLE) in Texas. And now when people think Texas, they think cowboys and, you know --
GIOKOS (voice-over): In the past decade, China has been the hottest market but duty-free access to the United States and a trade agreement means South
African winemakers can cash in on higher margins by finding their way to the U.S.' most developed palates.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a good market in California, Texas, New York. Last year we grew about 60 percent in Texas. We probably make about 50
percent more gross margin going overseas than we do locally.
BIYELA: We pulled out of China and we realized that (INAUDIBLE) in America. America is huge. Currently we're in three states. But like we
see that this is our biggest market.
GIOKOS (voice-over): (INAUDIBLE) might be moving out of the Chinese market due to competition and squeezed margins but overall South Africa is seeing
exponential growth with exports to China increasing by 40 percent.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do think that the growth into Africa, into China and into the U.S. Pacific is great.
GIOKOS (voice-over): As the industry adapts to the shift in demand and softer global growth, these winemakers face another challenge. This year
Stellekaya produced the earliest harvest to date driven by the widespread drought. And so the unlikely connection to the United States will be
tested. And international markets driving margins will be more important than ever -- Eleni Giokos, CNNMoney, Stellenbosch.
ASHER (voice-over): And you can always follow the stories the team is working on throughout the day by going to our Facebook page. That's
facebook.com/cnnconnect and of course you can tweet me @ZainAsher.
ASHER: And on our "Parting Shots," the Oscars are just a few days away, Sunday, in fact. And Leonardo DiCaprio is nominated for Best Actor for
"The Revenant" and he's expected to win big. But in Russia, someone who resembles the actor is grabbing the limelight. Jeanne Moos has the story.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hold your horses, Leo. A 33- year-old Russian security guard is living large as Leonardo DiCaprio.
Roman Burtsev is definitely a more portly version. Nothing mini-me --
MOOS (voice-over): -- about him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's Leo's mega-me.
MOOS (voice-over): But buried in there somewhere, his heart belongs to Leo.
MOOS (voice-over): The resemblance exploded on social media, last month, the two looks described as Friday night/Saturday morning. Perez Hilton
captioned the real Leo, saying, "I don't see it," while his twin replies, "I do."
And now the channel Moscow 24 has given Burtsev a show, called, "Romance with DiCaprio."
MOOS: His TV show is sort of a modified makeover. Leo's lookalike does things like take voice lessons and consult with a dietitian.
MOOS (voice-over): He hits the treadmill and undergoes cosmetic procedures to look more like DiCaprio. And just as the real Leo crawled his way
through "The Revenant," his twin is crawling his way to fame.
The producers even built a mock Titanic prow at a Russian shopping mall.
MOOS (voice-over): Young women took turns posing with the pretend DiCaprio. The couples didn't get quite as swept away as in the movie.
MOOS: Now for those of you who don't think the two bear much of a resemblance, take this.
MOOS (voice-over): Leonardo's twin did a recreation of "The Revenant's" bear scene with an alternate ending, involving the bear polishing an Oscar
statue. So far no response from Leo's PR people.
Does he find it unbearable to have his likeness mauled by an imposter? Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
ASHER: Well, if you're going to look like anyone, Leonardo DiCaprio is not a bad person to look like at all.
And just a reminder before we go, CNN is hosting a Democratic town hall in South Carolina in about eight hours or so from now. You'll be able to hear
directly from Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. You can catch it Abu Dhabi 5:00 am in the morning on Wednesday, of course, right here on CNN.
I'm Zain Asher and that was CONNECT THE WORLD. Thank you so much for watching. Have a great evening.