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MICHAEL HOLMES CNN ANCHOR: Tonight on the program, a scramble for support in the race for the White House.

Candidates expand (ph) out across the country ahead of Super Tuesday's vast. Well, a recent slew of insults backfire against the Republican


And CNN goes inside rebel-held territory in Syria to find that not everyone is happy about the ceasefire.

Also, dramatic claims of migrants and police place off at a border point that has become a baffle ray (ph).

And the fourth (ph) Hollywood's biggest night ends up middle political?

Hello everyone, I'm Michael Holmes, live from CNN Kansas City in Behala (ph). This is The World Right Now.

Well, after months and months of competing for vote, U.S. Presidential hopeful (ph) is just hours away now from a huge day in the race.

One that has the potential to make all break campaigns and enormous amount of state on Super Tuesday, especially since time might be running out for

candidates not named Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

And look at this new nationwide poll of likely Republican voters, Trump scorching his rivals with 49 percent of vote more than all of the others

combined, if that poll is right.

Now, on the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton, maintaining a comfortable lead over Bernie Sanders.

All of the candidates, as you might imagine, appealing for last minute votes ahead of tomorrow's primaries and caucuses in more than a dozen


Trump supporters turning out on mass, but not everyone likes his message.


This brave of black lives massive protesters interrupting a Trump rally in Virginia, a short time ago. They play click (ph) out of the event side.

And Trump at this to say.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: All right, folks, you're going to hear it once, all lives matter.


HOLMES: All right, we are also getting some other disturbing video in from the same rally.

Apparently, shows that news photography getting roughed up.

The photographer says, he was trying to film some of those protesters that left him on the ground, when a secret service agent, "Grab me by the neck

and started chocking me, then he slammed me to the ground."

We've got no comment from the secret service.

Well, the Republican, Marco Rubio, he's to be taking a pay from Trump's campaign manual in recent days resulting to rather personal attacks to go

after the frontrunner.

Our Jason Carroll is covering a Rubio rally in Atlanta.

All right, Jason, you know, Donald Trump has lowered the tone of political discourse. Did Marco Rubio climbed down there with him, with his comments

in the last day or so over a school got (ph) stuttered with saying, were they've been any reaction there?

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, certainly, reaction coming from Rubio supporters. Some of them who were asking, "Can you insult your way

to the nomination?"

Rubio is keeping up some of these insults, these personal attacks. We heard some of them in Dallas, heard them in Canon, Virginia yesterday and

again, here today in Atlanta, actually, at one point was unclear if Marco Rubio would even be able to speak.

He's had so many rallies. He lost his voice at one point. And South Carolina Governor, Nicky Haley stepped in and echoed some of the same

criticisms, some of the same themes talking about being pro-military with dealing Obamacare, but also going after Donald Trump comparing him to a

misbehaving child.


NICKY HALEY, SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR: I taught my two little ones, "You don't lie and make things up." I taught my two little ones, "That you

don't push people around and just tell them what you think should happen." And I told my two little ones to do exactly what Marco Rubio did in the

last debate, "When a bully hits you, you hit that bully right back."


CARROLL: And you can hear there, Michael. That was met by resounding applause. He also criticized him for foot clapping on the issue of Former

KKK Leader, David Duke, also going after him for not releasing his tax forms.

[15:05:01] So, the criticism in terms of going after Donald Trump, that is something that continues, something that we expect to hear as Marco Rubio

moves on to Minnesota and also Oklahoma as well.

HOLMES: Yeah. And you mentioned that coTax span (ph) a controversy all came from an interview with our own Jake Tapper.

Let's have a quick listen to some of that interview, so that people can get us into what went on. Let's roll that.


TRUMP: I don't know anything about David Duke. OK. I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with White Supremacy or White


So, I don't know, I mean, I don't know that he endorsed me or what's going on, because, you know, I know nothing about David Duke, I know nothing

about White Supremacist. And so, you're asking me a question that I'm supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about.


HOLMES: And as far as Jason Carroll, that's the curios thing. He does know David Duke. He disavowed him the day before.

So, what's being the full out for that little phase of exchange there?

CAROLL: Well, I think what we're going to see is the fallout tomorrow on the Super Tuesday, we'll see if it has any effect.

As you know, Michael, the poll shows Trump up in all the Super Tuesday states and many of these polls. You know, one poll in Minnesota shows that

Rubio may have a shot there. So, to followup from that, I think what we'll be seeing from that is tomorrow.

I can tell you from the Rubio campo (ph), he is saying that, look, this is just business as usual when it comes to this candidate of Donald Trump,

calling him a "Con Man", once again, saying one thing on one day, saying something else on another day.

Rubio is saying that this comment about David Duke basically makes this man unelectable.

Nicky Haley is echoing those same sentiments here today. But, I think what we're going to see tomorrow, might be the answer to your question.

HOLMES: Yeah. Indeed, of course, that's half along done, nothing seems to stick.

Jason Carroll in Atlanta.

Thanks so much, Jason.

Well, some Republicans see (ph) this campaign season quoting (ph) back the long-term damage to their very brand as the race sinks deeper and deeper

into the mud.

Let's bring in Alex Burns now, Political Reporter for the New York Times.

Alex, great to have you on.

Now, you wrote a fascinating article about how the GOP has handled or, let's say, mishandled the rise of Donald Trump, a man they do not want

representing their party, but they seemed paralyzed. Is it fair to say?

ALEX BURNS, POLITICAL REPORTER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES: I think that's exactly the right word, Michael.

This is a party that, now, finds itself for the scrambling to catch up with Donald Trump and sort of looking around at their options and saying, you

know, what are the tools that we can try to use to stop him.

The strangest thing is that many of these tools were available to them, three or four, or five months ago attacking him directly, having party

leaders on a Capital Hill speak out against him, having the parties billionaire donor class funder (ph), really formidable odd

Campaign against and none of these things were done until perhaps now when Donald Trump is looking stronger than he ever has before.

HOLMES: Yeah, the timing is extra ordinary, all the delay in timing.

You know, a lot of people of course, have been pointing out that Donald Trump really is the end result of something that's growing in raising

years, and that is the movement in politics away from compromise and discussion and getting things done to a my-way or no-other-way stat (ph) of

a politics in the Republican Party.

And Trump embodies that, but he didn't start it, he's a result of that. They have to say that.

BURNS: Oh, that's entirely fair. And I would say that it goes beyond even the sense that, you know, compromises a bad thing that are running toward

the political center as a bad thing.

You know, Trump is, you know, a lot of conservatives present the idea that he's a candidate of the right, because ideologically, he is not

particularly, articulating a clear, you know, sophisticated conservative platform.

What he is doing is embodying these desire particularly on the part of the base of the Republican Party activist based on the Republican Party to just

sort of vent anger.

You've seen a lot of candidates take advantage of this in primary elections, at the congressional and senate level. This is certainly the

first time you've seen it go this far on the presidential level.

HOLMES: And what was fascinating about your article too is when you're talking to various people in the party, even a sense that, even when they

get to the convention, they could be across (ph) the wrong word, but they could be a revolt against Trump from within the party.

How might that look?

BURNS: Well, clue is the word that Trump will use if this is what ends up coming to.

For Republicans, you know, the ideal scenario at this point, and there's really no great scenario, but the best case scenario is that somebody like

Marco Rubio gradually overtakes Donald Trump over the course of the next two months. And eventually, somehow, clinches of majority of the

delegates. That looks like a very, very tall order.

The next best option for them is that simply, nobody gets a majority of the delegate.

And so, you head into the convention with Donald Trump, short of the ability to lock up the nomination. And then some kind of deal gets cut.

And Michael, you can imagine the reaction of Donald Trump would have, his supporters would have, if he came in first but short of a majority and so,

the party ended up giving the nominations to a second or third place candidate.

[15:11:04] HOLMES: Yeah. I want to ask you too. In your discussions, did you get the sense that whether he wins or loses the nomination that the

party itself has, in fact, being damaged? At its very core, I mean, you seem to have this establishment when you got the Cruz right wing. If you

like it, then you got the anger (ph) wing. Has the party being damaged going forward?

BURNS: There's no question about it. There are the Republican Party's ability to win a general election this year as already been deeply


The reality is, even if they did end up with the candidate who is not Donald Trump, Democrats were going to run against Donald Trump, they're

going to go into a Latino communities and say this is a party of Donald Trump that want to deport your friends and family members and neighbors.

They're going to go to women and say this is a party of Donald Trump and the rhetoric he is, that women through out that primary campaign.

There is a chance for Republicans to turn the page. If they somehow sort of beat Trump decisively, but the real danger for the party is that this

lingers into the general election and really did lingers into elections in the future that this is a, you know, Democrats have been running against

George W. Bush for a decade now.

They're going to run against Donald Trump I think for at least that long.

HOLMES: Yeah, you have the fascinating articles to say (ph).

Alex Burns, Political Reporter for the New York Times.

Great to have you on, thanks so much.

BURNS: Thanks a lot.

HOLMES: Well, weeks of clover (ph) crack work were about to come to fruition in Iraq. CNN learning that the U.S. armies built a force is about

to launch its mission to target ISIS leaders. And official with knowledge of the team's activity says safe house of the set up and the informant

networks established.

Then they go on official declining, the comment on the operations, but not surprisingly that to Defense Secretary says the U.S. Leagues (ph) coalition

now has the momentum in Iraq. And there are even positive signs next door in Syria.


ASH CARTER, U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: As we continue to pursue ISIL's lasting defeat, Secretary Kerry has shown great determination in pursuing

the diplomatic and political track in Syria, which included the signing of a cessation of hostilities agreement last week.

If properly implemented and adhere to, we believe this cessation can lead to an overall decline in violence and hasten the delivery of humanitarian

aid. It could be a first step towards an end of civil war and suffering on Syrian people.


HOLMES: And the U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter there. He reference to ceasefire inside Syria or the cessation of hostilities that United Nation

State (ph) says is essentially holding despite some reported incidents.

Now, CNN International Correspondent Clarissa Ward has just returned from rebel-held Syria and witnessed for herself how they ceasefire is holding

up. Since, virtually, the (inaudible) Western Journalist to have traveled to the heavy hit area in more than a year (ph).

CLARISSA WARD, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We are in the heart of rebel-held Syria and this entire area has seen some of the most intensive

bombardment in the past few months.

So, we've ben traveling all around here for nearly a week now and certainly it is fair to say that since the cessation of hostilities begun, there has

been a dramatic decrease in the number of air strikes.

Now, having said that earlier, we visited a town called Darat Izza on the outskirts of a Aleppo and people there told us that about 30 hours after

the ceasefire began, there was an air strike on a house we were able to capture some video of the aftermath of that air strike. There have also

been reports of clashes in other parts of the country. But certainly, it does feel quite a bit quieter here.

Now, what's interesting is that you won't find anybody here celebrating about the ceasefire and that's for a number of reasons firstly in the run

up to the cessation of hostilities, there was a dramatic increase in the Russian area of bombardment secondly, the people here who lived in rebel9-

held territory, since we don't trust the regime of Bashar al-Assad, they see the ceasefire as a trick or arose to dines (ph) so that the regime can

take more territory.

And for that reason, many people we spoke into are in fact actually against the ceasefire. Just a few days ago, we attended a protest where people

were carrying signs that said, "This ceasefire is a betrayal of our murders of those who have died for the cause, they were chanting over and over

again, we must keep on fighting and we must unite even the Imam in his weekly sermon with urging people not to hid the ceasefire and to continue



HOLMES: And Clarissa, were since (ph) returned from that rebel-held territory where you saw there in her exclusive report. She's on the border

now between Turkey and Syria joining us live.

Clarissa, good to see you.

I'm curious what sense you got from the people on ground often being said if you don't have a gun, then you're not part of this process.

[15:14:55] Did they feel they have a seat of the table, the people?

WARD: We'll I think you'd really hid on the fundamental issue here, Michael, which is that there is a dramatic disconnect between the people

who are fighting and dying on the ground inside Syria and the people who are sitting in Geneva and Munich and brokering toward sorts of deals. And

the people on the ground in Syria feel that their needs are not being represented, that their voice is not being heard.

And they told me over and over again that they feel like they're watching a game of chess that is being played out between the world's superpowers and

that is not talking into account the needs and desires of the Syrian people.

HOLMES: I'm also interested here, you know, you're going to hear Assad must go from certain parts of the world this day (ph). One presumes that

they are pretty firm on that angle.

WARD: That is unequivocally absolutely the case. This is the major sticking point and part of the reason that so many on the ground in this

rebel hilarious have a little faith in these talks is because they've noticed how the world has slowly backed away from saying that Assad must

go. And for people on the ground, that is not up for debate.

And I want to emphasize in the run up to the cessation of hostilities, we witnessed for ourselves, a Russian air strike on a crowded market full of

civilians in a small town, no evidence, whatsoever that we saw of terrorist or fighters on the ground. And as long as that is going on and when the

Syrian people feel that they have shed so much blood and sacrifice so much, they are not interested in going to the negotiating table until it is

established that Bashar al-Assad must go.

HOLMES: And just finally and briefly, you know, one thing that we are starting to see now is the scale of the damage. What did you see with your

own eyes about the damage done? And, I mean, these people, can they even come to (inaudible) rebuilding?

WARD: I don't think anyone can contemplate that at this stage. It's simply too vast and the conflict is still raging. And often, it's really

difficult to convey with cameras just how widespread the damage is.

But just to give you a sense, I've been covering conflict for 10 years. I have never seen anything quite like this. And when I visited Aleppo four

years ago, I said to myself, "It can never get any worst." And now I can tell you after the Russian bombardment it is significantly worst. You were

talking about entire parts of the city that have literary been wiped off the map.

HOLMES: Clarissa Ward, terrific reporting. Thanks so much.

Well, still to come on the program. Violence seems on Greece's Northern border as refugee's frustration boils over. We'll show you how this

dramatic situation played out.

Stay with us. We'll be right back.


[15:15:59] HOLMES: Welcome back to the program. A night worker (ph) in Northern Greece says there was -- pints (ph) come on the border into

Macedonia. Thousands of refugees huddled (ph) there, waiting to travel north.

A desperate situation but not as traumatic as the one we saw earlier, refugees creating a makeshift battering realm, police answering with tear


Atika Shubert reports.

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Thousands camped on the border between Greece and Macedonia, demanding a way into Europe.

Protesters manage to briefly run down the border fence and try to push their way through. But, they were stopped with tear gas and border police

in riot here (ph).

Dozens were injured in the chaos, including a number of children.

This is exactly what Greece has been warning other E.U. States that if borders closed and Greece is left on its own, the refugee crisis will reach

boiling point.

On Sunday night, German Chancellor, Angela Merkel warned that the E.U. must not abandon Greece or it will face disaster. "What has happened is exactly

what we feared,"-- she said, "That a country is now left alone with its problems and we cannot allow that.

Greece is the doorway to Europe, a short boat right from Turkey. It is the easiest way for asylum seekers, especially, from Syria, Iraq and

Afghanistan to cross into Europe through the Balkans states.

But the staggering number of arrivals has lead individual states to crack down as pressure builds to accommodate asylum seekers.

Macedonia has closed its borders to all that (ph) Syrian and Iraqi refugees and anyone coming through must have valid photo I.D., something few

refugees have.

That has left tens of thousand stranded in Greece, many of them from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Morocco and other states.

At the border, police have brought in reinforcements and restore the border fence. There is now an uneasy calm.

Still, as long as the gates to Europe remain locked, the frustration and anger of thousands will continue to grow.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.


HOLMES: And we are getting the first glimpse of a 21-year-old American college student detained in North Korea.

Authorities arrested, Otto Frederick Warmbier, earlier this month. They're accusing him of carrying out and their words (ph), a hostile act against

the state for trying to steal a political banner in his hotel. He now says it was all one big mistake.

Will Ripley with more of that confession.


WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Another American, Front-end Center in Pyongyang's propaganda parade.

OTTO FREDERICK WARMBIER: I entirely beg you, the people and government of the DPR of Korea, for your forgiveness. Please. I made the worst mistake

of my life (ph).

RIPLEY: Otto Frederick Warmbier, a University of Virginia Business Major, making a dramatic emotional confession.

WARMBIER: Please, save this for testing (ph) innocent scapegoat.

RIPLEY: CNN cannot verify if Warmbier is speaking under the arrest. He's accused of trying to steal a North Korean political banner from his hotel

and take it home in his suitcase.

So, we are just hanging out here at a Hotel, the Yanggakdo Hotel.

This is where allegedly happened, a hotel familiar to foreign media and tourist.

It is legal for Americans like Wormbier to visit North Korea on government supervised tourist (ph). Those who obey the regime's strict rules usually

come and go without a problem.

The U.S. State Department won't comment on Warmbier's case, but the agency strongly recommends against all travel to North Korea saying, "Americans

risk arrest and long-term detention."

In September 2014, CNN was granted surprised interviews with three detained Americans, two who entered North Korea as tourists, all were eventually

released after U.S. intervention.



RIPLEY: Warmbier's parents issued a statement saying they were relieved to finally see him noting they haven't heard from him since he was detained in


They urge the North Korean government to, "Consider his youth and make it an important humanitarian gesture by allowing him to return to his loved


Just days after Warmbier's arrest, North Korea claim to test its first H- bomb, followed weeks later by a satellite launch.

Two provocative acts that will soon mean even stronger international sanctions against Supreme Leader, Kim Jung-On's regime.

Now, another detained American seen as a valuable political pone (ph) in North Korea's ongoing propaganda war with the west.

Will Ripley, CNN Beijing.


HOLMES: Coming up on The World Right Now, newspapers straggling around the world, but in one country, the printing press is going stronger than ever.

[15:25:02] That story when we come back.


HOLMES: Welcome back to the program everyone.

Print newspaper sales are declining the world over the internet changes the way we all consume news.

But, there is at least one place where the business is booming, India, where print ready fit (ph) was up 8 percent last year. I'm heard off (ph).

Sumeritha Udas explains why.


SUMERITHA UDAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Crunch time at New Delhi offices of India's number one selling newspaper.

If the clock ticks 11 p.m., the manus (ph) begin.

Simultaneously, across India, the 4 million copies of Dainik Jagran are printed.

It's so loud in here and the smell of the ink is incredibly strong.

But what's happening here are that the 15 different editions of Dainik Jagran, all being printed here to New Delhi and the surrounding areas (ph).

While news paper titled the circulations decline globally with the internet threatening the future printed news.

In India, the industries actually growing at a rate of 8 to 10 percent a year, with new editions being launch on a weekly basis.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We could often serve in India that every 50 kilometers, the directly change. Short, every 50, 60 kilometers versus citrics (ph)

sub divisional Dainik Jagran (inaudible) which has local content for that market and the local language (ph).

UDAS: They're catering each edition to small towns like this, because this is where India's economy is expanding most. And reading newspapers is


"Hardly anyone (ph) used to go to school before. Now, almost everyone is educated. So, we all read newspapers. We get to know everything, what's

happening in the country, rest of the world, farming, inflation, it's empowering." he says.

Today, India has almost a hundred thousand registered publications. That's more than double of what it was a decade ago.

And unlike pretty much anywhere else in the world, the future for news paper here is bright.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of the almost 900 million (inaudible) population of India, 44 percent don't read a news paper. That percent is a massive

potential and the opportunity is still available (ph).

UDAS: Put those roughly, 400 million (inaudible) from reading nothing to consuming news online perhaps. The retreat forces of the country is still

lacking internet access, that shift will take time.

Until then, print away.

Sumeritha Udas, CNN New Delhi.


HOLMES: And still become, it is called, Super Tuesday for a reason. It's a critical day in the U.S. Presidential Race.

But, what exactly happens and why does it matter so much.

[15:29:32] We'll explain it all for you in a couple of minutes.



MICHAEL HOLMES, HOST: And welcome back. U.S. Presidential candidates making a last-minute push for votes ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries and



HOLMES: Black Lives Matter protesters rushing a rally for Donald Trump a short time ago in Virginia. They were ejected from the site.


HOLMES: And the tense situation on Greece's northern border boiling over Monday.


HOLMES: Desperate refugees unable to move north in Europe using a poll to ram a fence. Police responding with tear gas. Several people were hurt,

including children.


HOLMES: Syria's main opposition group says the regime has violated Syria's already tenuous cessation of hostilities.


HOLMES: It says government and Russian forces launched airstrikes on opposition territory but the United Nation's Secretary General said the

cease-fire by and large is holding.


HOLMES: And let's return to our main story now. Republican and Democratic candidates crisscrossing the United States fervently campaigning ahead of

Super Tuesday. It is billed as a huge moment for both parties but why does Super Tuesday matter so much.

Our Jonathan Mann explains so much.

JONATHAN MANN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Super Tuesday is a chance for candidates to get a very large number of delegates to the Democratic

and Republican nominating conventions. 12 states will either vote or caucus. About half of them are in the south which is why you'll also hear

this called the SEC Primary taking that nickname from the Southeast Conference, an association of southern universities that may be best known

for its football rivalries. No football tie-in there, but the U.S. territory of American Samoa will also hold its caucus on Super Tuesday.

There are more delegates up for grabs on Super Tuesday than any other day of the calendar. That one day offers nearly half, 48% of what's needed to

win for Republicans, more than 1/3 at 36% for Democrats. Super Tuesday will probably not decide the race for Republicans though because of the number

of candidates still in the race. They split the vote too many ways for a clear, fast win. But it could have a significant impact on the Democratic

race between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.


HOLMES: Jonathan Mann reporting there. Just a reminder now about voter sentiment heading into Super Tuesday, a new CNN/ORC nationwide poll of

likely Republican voters find Donald Trump scorching his rivals.


HOLMES: Just have a look at those numbers there, 49% support. That is more than all of his opponents combined. Now on the Democratic side, Hillary

Clinton maintaining a comfortable lead over Bernie Sanders, but, of course, Super Tuesday votes are counted state by state.

Let's get more now from two CNN political commentators, Jeffrey Lord, a Donald Trump supporter, and Patti Solace Doyle, a former presidential

campaign manager for Hillary Clinton.


HOLMES: Great to have you both. Jeffrey, let's start for you and this KKK. Issue. I know you've been talking about it all day. Donald Trump saying --

basically saying he didn't know Duke. But he did, he disavowed him the day before. So what was that all about? Will it damage him?


JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: He not only disavowed him the day before, back in August of last year in an article in Politico I mean he

very flatly disavowed him.


LORD: He also disavowed him in 2000 when he was thinking of running as a reform Party candidate.

HOLMES: So what was he doing with Jake Tapper? What was that all about?

LORD: Yes, well he says his earpiece wasn't functioning. I mean look, there's no way in the world Donald Trump is going to take an endorsement

from David Duke. David Duke is (inaudible), he's the head - the former head of the Ku Klux Klan which was a (leftus) hate organization that was seen by

that is called today as historians as the military arm of the Democratic party. They're anti-Semitic, David Duke was very much in favor of occupy

Wall Street, because of, I'm quoting here directly "Zionist banks."

Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism when he married her husband, Jared Kushner. So in other words Donald Trump's daughter, son-in-

law and grandchildren are all Jewish. The chances that he would have anything to do with David Duke are, you know non-existent.


HOLMES: It was very curious indeed. He heard all the other questions OK, and he did talk about David Duke, so it was an interesting thing. But

judging by the poll numbers and judging how he's gone, nothing sticks anyway.

Patti, let's ask you about Hillary Clinton; 56/38 nationally, that's pretty comfortable. Could Super Tuesday get her over the line or too early to say?


PATTI SOLACE DOYLE, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, look, almost 900 delegates are at stake tomorrow so that's a lot but it's not enough to get

her the 2200 delegates that she needs to actually get the nomination. But she goes in tomorrow with the wind at her back. You know, that sort of

crushing 50-point win over Bernie Sanders in South Carolina really gave her all the momentum she needs to go into Super Tuesday and win those southern

states where minority voters are, you know -- are in large numbers.

HOLMES: You know, the interesting thing, Patti, is that you know, as we all know, Bernie Sanders started this barely on the board and now he's made a

real contest of it. I'm curious even if Hillary Clinton does get the nomination and all the signs point that way, is she going to learn

something from what the people are saying by their support of Bernie Sanders? He's the Donald Trump of the left. They're sending a message we

don't like how things have been and Hillary Clinton has often been considered a little bit of a creature of Wall Street.


HOLMES: Do you think she'll take something from what Sanders supporters have been saying?

DOYLE: I think Bernie Sanders has run a fantastic campaign. And he's continuing to run it. I mean, reports are saying that he may raise $40

million in the month of February alone. That is a very big deal, and I think Bernie Sanders has made Hillary Clinton a better candidate during

this primary season.


DOYLE: You know, in the beginning Hillary Clinton was the inevitable candidate and nobody likes an inevitable candidate. People want to see

their candidate earn every vote. And that's what Bernie Sanders has done for Hillary Clinton. He has made her fight for each and every vote, and

that makes her a better candidate.

HOLMES: Yes, a lot of people wondering whether she'll pick up some of the messages that are coming from those. Sorry, Jeff, I was going to - I was

going to bring you in, did you want to say something on that?

LORD: I understand -- I agree with almost everything Patti said there. You know, momentum plays a huge role in these races, and when you get to the

point that Hillary Clinton is about to go through tomorrow with Super Tuesday and Donald Trump on the Republican side, I think momentum begins to

sort of take over and you begin to get this bandwagon effect here. But that was -- when you're in these tough races you emerge -- if you emerge as the

- as the - as the candidate, you a merge as a much better candidate than when you started. And I think that's true of Hillary Clinton and Donald

Trump as well.

HOLMES: And Jeffery, I don't want to -- I know you're a Donald Trump supporter. I don't want to tea this out and let you heed into it with a

driver. But you know if Donald Trump has lowered the tone of the campaign, what did Marco Rubio do? did he jump down in the hole with him talking

about spray tans, and clogged pores, and small hands. I mean this is kid stuff. What is up with this campaign?


LORD: Hey, I think - I mean in a serious sense what you have here is there is a real divide in the Republican Party. And I think at this point the

folks on the "establishment side" are desperate. I mean, they thought you know, they put $100 million or more into Jeb Bush's campaign and he's out.

So now they're flocking like crazy to Marco Rubio and, you know I think he's going to lose. He's something - I heard today, he's something like 20

points behind in his own state of Florida against Donald Trump.

So yes, he's desperate, he's doing whatever he can, you know, including throwing the kitchen sink. So here we go. We'll just have to see what the

voters say.

HOLMES: And, Patti, if it does - sorry Patti, chime in.

DOYLE: Well, I'd just like to say you know on the Republican side you're so right. They're talking about spray tans, and the size of their hands, the

way they look, and on the Democratic I mean, Hillary Clinton's talking about love and kindness.



DOYLE: So I cannot wait to see a general election when Hillary Clinton is talking about love and kindness and Donald Trump is talking about hate and


HOLMES: Well one thing -- one thing the Democrats have got to do is get people out. I think it was Robert Reiker who said the biggest party in the

U.S. - in U.S. politics isn't the Democrats or the Republicans, it's the non-voting party. And we've seen Republicans turning out in far bigger

groups than Democrats. They've got to get the people out.

DOYLE: I agree with that.

LORD: Yes, there's a (inaudible) back here.

HOLMES: Patti first and then Jeff you have the last word. Go ahead, Patti.

DOYLE?: I agree with that. But I think that once the primary process is over and the Democratic Party unites and you have people like Barack Obama,

campaign for the nominee and Elizabeth Warren campaigning for the nominee and the Democratic nominee is up against, again, like I said, hate and

anger, you're going to see people coming out to vote on the Democratic side.

HOLMES: Jeffrey?

LORD: Well I don't think the motto Make America Great Again is necessarily or is at all any related to hate. I do think that there is blunt talk in

the feeling that - I mean it's fascinating for me to listen to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. I mean, you have to wonder who's been running

the country for the last eight years. I mean she was Secretary of State, Barack Obama was President and Bernie Sanders was a member of the United

States Senate. If the country's in terrible shape, well then I guess we know where the blame would go for that.

HOLMES: Yes I suppose it boils down to that argument; is the country in terrible shape compared to the rest of the world? You know, that's going to

be part of a discussion during the campaign as well. Jeffrey Lord, we have to leave it there, Patti Solace Doyle, thanks so much, good conversation.

LORD: Thank you. Thanks, Patti.

DOYLE: Thanks, Jeff.

HOLMES: They're saying hello to each other. That's nice.

Stay with CNN. Extensive coverage of all of the Super Tuesday primaries and caucuses on a day that could change the landscape of the election, only

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HOLMES: When we come back, wounded American veterans learning to fight a new war back home from hunting terrorists on the battlefield to saving

children from predators. That's up next in our CNN's Freedom Project series.



HOLMES: Welcome back. As part of our CNN Freedom Project, we want to highlight an innovative program that is training wounded American war vets

to catch child predators. After fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are developing new skills in helping children. Kyung Lah has more.



KYUNG LAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's training day for former army ranger, Tom Block. Block and 23 other elite war veterans from the U.S.

Special Forces for the U.S. military spent more than $1 million each to be physically and mentally exceptional are now prepping for a new mission.

J. CHRISTIAN, CEO, NAPCS: So the Hero Corps being just the completely unique program that it is, hero corps, it gives a veteran the opportunity

to not only take on a mission but really, really go out and make efforts to rescue children.

LAH: J. Christian, himself a former highly decorated army ranger leads the team as head of a non-profit called "Protect." The group is partners with

Homeland Security Investigations and U.S. Special Operations command to train and place these veterans with law enforcement agencies around the


CHRISTIAN: You see groups of children being abused at levels the average American can't fathom. The abuse seems to be getting, you know, more

documented and worse.

LAH: "Protect" says the United States is the world's largest producer of child pornography. The images too hard to look at, often too horrible even

to describe. But for these heroes, the idea of not taking action is not an option.

CHRISTIAN: But what we're dealing with is actual capturing of crime scenes. It gives you that sense of urgency to make sure that you're able to get

there as fast as can you. When they go out into the field the main objective for the hero is to aid and assist in child rescue.

LAH: These Hero Corps veterans share another trait. In order to qualify for the program, the veteran must have been wounded, ill, or injured in service

to their country. Block, the Army Time's 2014 soldier of the year was badly wounded during a raid in southern Afghanistan in 2013. A suicide bomber

charged him and his team. The explosion went off just eight feet from where Block was standing.

TOM BLOCK, H.E.R.O. CHILD RESCUE CORPS: We lost four friends that night to I.E.D. blasts, it leveled some of the house, not most of the house, it

threw me back 30 feet into a ditch, wounded a bunch of others.

LAH: Getting back to fighting shape wasn't easy. After learning to walk again, sergeant Block endured several reconstructive surgeries. Doctors

couldn't save his right eye but Block decided to use the setback to make a statement.

BLOCK: I think the Captain America's shield for my fake eye because I feel it's something that represents what I stand for in a big way. He doesn't

like bullies. Neither do I.

LAH: Let that serve as notice for anyone who may be terrorizing children.

Kyung Lah, CNN.


HOLMES: And to learn more about the Heroes working to protect children from online predators go to Tuesday you're going to meet a former

member of the elite Delta force. Injuries in Afghanistan left Shannon Krieger feeling like he had hit rock bottom. But he found a new cause, on

that has helped him rebuild his life.


SHANNON KRIEGAR, H.E.R.O. CHILD RESCUE CORPTS: As child exploitation, people were busy this time of the year.

LAH: For example, monitoring chat rooms to identify people planning to come to Mardi Gras to have sex with children.

There's a lot to do because of (Mardi Gras) because a lot of people were here that aren't normally here and they bring some really bad habits with


HOLMES: And he is one of the Heroes at home you will meet this week as part of CNN's Freedom Project only on CNN. We'll be right back.




HOLMES: Welcome back, everyone. Asia's third largest economy, India, revealed its new annual budget on Monday, the country's finance minister

promising more rural investment and greater spending on education. Before these measures were announced organizations were already tackling education

deficits in rather innovative ways. Take a look at the mobile science vans.


NEWTON: We hitch a ride for a journey like no other. It lasts days and weeks and years through lush fields and sleepy towns. Past curious

onlookers and straight through the ebb and flow of ordinary life in villages all over India. The science lab on wheels parks it and for now our

trip ends in (inaudible) , northern India.

On dirt floors with pure ambition, science class is in session. The site is astounding. An entire village, elders first, learning what science and the

Agastaya Foundation can do for their children. Turnout is impressive. Everyone is all ears. As an army of educators equipped with knowledge and

passion teach science to people in places that hardly ever get to experience the touch, sound and feel of a science lab.

You want me to get green?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Green. Yes, green.

NEWTON: The whole thing is infectious. The interest in educating all of these children is real, and the parents and grandparents need to be in on

it starting with this kind of community outreach. Agastaya's roving science labs roam more than 600,000 kilometers making it to more than 10,000

schools and towns inspiring students in each and every one. Why science?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Essentially science lends itself to a lot of curiosity. We identify those children that spark and give them a lot more opportunity,

and a lot more exposure so that they can participate in a meaningful manner.

NEWTON: That exposure happens mainly in India's public schools most in need of the resources and teaching support so they can hold science fairs like

this one. Agastaya sets up science labs and enhances the curriculum sparking the imagination of many like 15-year-old Pankaj Jakhar who says he

now feels as if a career in medicine is within reach.

PANKAJ JAKHAR: (As translated) These mobile labs are coming into our villages. Before we could only read these things in books and not able to

understand exactly what was happening. But now we can understand it.

NEWTON: The key is recruiting passionate instructors to turn students onto science.

(TARUM ARORN): I am changing their mind in a positive manner, and I'm doing a great job. They work on the models. They see how it is working.

NEWTON: They see science in action?

(ARORN): Yes, They are coming with new ideas. Their confidence is increasing.

NEWTON: There is an abiding belief underpinning what you see here. If the children who rule India can be inspired by science, it will change their

country's destiny for the best.

Paula Newton, CNN, India.


HOLMES: Well, after four previous acting nominations, there was another one for producing. Sunday was finally Leonardo DiCaprio's night. The actor

getting his Oscar winning for his leading role in the frontier drama "The Revenant." he gave a composed acceptance speech thanking mentors down

through the years and then turning to an issue close to his heart, climate change.


LEONARDO DICAPRIO, ACTOR: Making "The Revenant" was about man's relationship to the natural world, a world that we collectively felt in

2015 as the hottest year in recorded history. Our production needed to move to the southern tip of this planet just to be able to find snow. Climate

change is real. It is happening right now. It is the most urgent threat facing our entire species.


HOLMES: Well, it was a hugely anticipated Oscars ceremony. Let's talk more about it with CNN Moneys Media Reporter, Frank Pallotta, joining us from

New York. And it was anticipated because of this whole Oscars so white thing. No black acting nominees. And Chris Rock, a little acerbic at times,

but he did not shy away from that issue.


FRANK PALLOTTA, CNN MONEYS MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: No, and he did so in a really distinctive and pointed way. He came right out. He made a lot of

great jokes, one of his best jokes I felt was he says, this is the 88th annual academy awards. This no Black nominees has happened at least 71

other times.


PALLOTTA: And he really kind of talked about the elephant in the room without being consumed by it all night and was still able to be a great


HOLMES: I liked it when he said -- he said if the academy was deciding on hosts for the Oscars I wouldn't be here. I thought that was pretty good,

too. OK, we've got to talk about the surprises. I mean a lot of people feel there weren't that many surprises. But best picture "Spotlight," what did

you think?

PALLOTTA: I thought it was a huge surprise. Not because "Spotlight" wasn't a solid movie or wasn't deserving, but there was so much buzz and talk

around "The Revenant" that when "Spotlight" won at the end of the night it was pretty shocking considering that it didn't really win many of the other

awards. It had only really won for original screenplay and then it took all night, and then it won the biggest award of the night with best



HOLMES: Yes, I agree. And in fact, when I was looking through information, it's only - "Spotlight" took best original screen play. And it's been since

1953 that the best original movie has only won one other Oscar, so a little bit of trivia there.

What else surprised you? I mean you know I'm an Aussie so I thought "Mad Max" romped it home with the technical sweep. What else did you think?


PALLOTTA: Well, "Mad Max" winning six awards was really, really interesting. To put that into context, the other awards, the other movies

that have won six awards are "Forrest Gump," the original "Star Wars," "All About Eve," and the "Godfather Part II." So Mad Max Fury Road has as many

Oscars as Godfather Part II.

But the other big surprise of the night for me was I loved Creed and I love Sylvester Stallone in Creed. And Mark Rylance's beat and kind of snubbed

Stallone from winning best supporting actor. But either way it was just a big shock, even though Mark Rylance for "Bridge of Spies" did a great job

as well.


HOLMES: Yes, my secret hope was Brian (inaudible who was absolutely amazing if you haven't seen that movie, people go and see it it's terrific.

OK, we're out of time, Frank. They won't let us talk anymore, good to see you. Frank Pallotta there in New York.

PALLOTTA: Thank you so much.

HOLMES: All right, this has been "The World Right Now." thanks for watching "Quest Means Business," he says it like that, that's next.