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[14:00:00] WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Donald Trump's rally in Portland, Maine, that will continue right now.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, so we're up. I'm Brooke Baldwin. You are watching CNN.

And you're looking at live pictures here. We have been watching and waiting for the better part of the half hour here as Donald Trump is supposed to stand behind that podium in front of those four American flags and speak. Speak and essentially react, we're all assuming, to what we heard from Mitt Romney earlier today. Mitt Romney, the most recent Republican presidential nominee hours ago just stood there at the University of Utah ripping apart the man who should be considered the party's presumed nominee. This is how desperate the Republican Party has gotten now as Donald Trump is poised to win even more states as the March primaries and caucuses are most definitely in full swing. As we watch and wait for Mr. Trump, here is just a sliver of what Mitt Romney had to say earlier.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), 2012 PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: So even though Donald Trump has offered very few specific economic plans, what little he has said is enough to know that he would be very bad for American workers and for American families. But you say, wait, wait, wait, isn't he a huge business success? Doesn't he know what he's talking about? No, he isn't. And, no, he doesn't.

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BALDWIN: All right, we have much more from Mitt Romney in just a moment. But first with me now I have David Gregory, former moderator of "Meet the Press," Adriana Cohen, a columnist for "The Boston Herald," CNN national political reporter Maeve Reston, who, by the way, covered Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign. And Kurt Eichenwald, who is a senior writer and columnist for "Newsweek."

So great to have all of you on. I have, you know, one eye on the four of you and one eye here on this - on this Trump event. I mean he certainly - the man knows how to create a little anticipation, does he not?

David Gregory, to you first, what do you think Trump says?

DAVID GREGORY, FORMER MODERATOR, "MEET THE PRESS": Well, I think he goes out of his way to insult Mitt Romney as a loser, someone who didn't win in 2012, someone who didn't get the say number of votes in 2012 in Massachusetts as Donald Trump just did, someone who represents all of the old, tired ideas of the establishment that has fueled Donald Trump's rise and kind of a symptom of the problem. I would suspect, if he's smart, as he's proven to be, Donald Trump, that he will add on another layer, which is that this is a show of weakness on the part of Rubio and Cruz that they couldn't make this case against him, Trump, that they needed Mitt Romney, someone who's not running and who has not found it within himself to endorse anyone else, not Cruz and not Rubio. So he's not confident in anybody else, but only confident in himself to try to make the case to disqualify Donald Trump from consideration.

BALDWIN: OK. We can loop back and see if you are right on the money there.

Adriana, to you. You know, you support Donald Trump. I know that we saw from Trump campaign, in the wake of what Romney said earlier, saying, thanks, Mitt Romney, for the best endorsement ever. You think this whole thing's going to backfire on Romney and the establishment and help your guy?

ADRIANA COHEN, COLUMNIST, "BOSTON HERALD": Oh, definitely. It's just going to mobilize Trump supporters all across the country. Because what Mitt Romney did is he interfered in democracy. Democracy's playing out right now. And voters have had plenty of time to hear from all 17 GOP candidates and they basically made their choice. It's now narrowed down to four remaining candidates. And for Mitt Romney to interfere in that process and tell millions of Americans what's best for us and how we should be voting is pure elitism.

You know, Mitt - Donald Trump has millions and millions of supporters in all diversities. I've been to his rallies. I've seen every ethnicity there. Women, young people, blue collar, highly educated. I've seen it all. A lot of women support him. And Mitt Romney just basically said, you don't know how to vote. You're not smart enough. I need to tell you how to vote. And I found it very insulting.

BALDWIN: Here's what I'm also wondering, Kurt Eichenwald, is, do you think Trump comes out and says, hey, that Mitt Romney, the same guy four years ago who begged, lobbied, courted my endorsement, the same guy who said I was great on the economy and I created jobs and I know how to work with China, you think he's going to point that out?

KURT EICHENWALD, SENIOR WRITER AND COLUMNIST, "NEWSWEEK": Oh, of course. And, you know, the problem here - I mean Romney is going to be like the gnat on the elephant.

BALDWIN: Ooh.

EICHENWALD: The last comments were absolutely correct. You know, I am not a Trump supporter, but, you know, basically Romney came out and said, all of you are stupid.

COHEN: Right. EICHENWALD: Now, let me explain from, you know, the set party's opinion what you should really be thinking. And, you know, the reality here is - I wrote a column four years ago saying, if the Republican Party doesn't stop what it's doing, it is going to fracture and it's going to get - and I didn't say Donald Trump, but an individual like this because too many of the Republican voters are going to feel like they've been lied to. And I think that's exactly what the kind of thing Trump is going to come out and say, that it's time to change the party. And the party brought it on itself.

[14:05:28] BALDWIN: Maeve, why the timing here.

COHEN: They did.

BALDWIN: Why do you think Mitt Romney came out now and gave this speech? And what do you think he sees his role as in this current presidential election?

MAEVE RESTON, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER: Well, I mean, he went into this presidential election saying, you know, that he was going to take on the role as the party elder. He was going to try to not get involved in the primary process. But talking to people close to him, over the last couple of weeks they say that Romney has become just increasingly frustrated with Trump's rhetoric, his campaign, and really felt that this was the moment at which he really needed to step in.

One of the most important things that he did with that speech today was to signal to his donors, who we should all remember raised $1 billion for his presidential effort in 2012, that this is the moment for them to get into the fight, pour money into these anti-Trump efforts, even though he didn't actually say that. That was the signal that he was sending. And that's the signal that they heard.

And so I think the question is, you know, he laid out a very fact- based policy critique of Donald Trump today, you know, on everything from Syria to ISIS to domestic policy, is whether or not the voters around the country who are still undecided and, believe it or not, there are many of them who are still undecided, will hear his remarks, as well as those of, you know, other anti-Trump folks and actually start to think more about their decision as we head into these huge state contests like Ohio, Florida, where, you know, I don't know if it's too little, too late, but it definitely was a strong statement by the governor.

GREGORY: Can I just add -

BALDWIN: By the way - yes, go ahead, go ahead, David.

GREGORY: I'm watching the feed, too. I know you have to get to it as soon as he approaches the lectern.

This is also, from within Romney world, incredible frustration with the rest of the field for failing to make a strong, coherent, detailed, substantive case against Trump, on his record, on the merits. When Rubio decided to get into the fray, he joined by his own admission the circus of insults and putdowns, which did not get to a detailed takedown.

Now, again, I don't think he's going to - Romney's going to affect Trump voters and Trump supporters here -

COHEN: No.

GREGORY: But, you know, the empire does strike back, and this is the establishment trying to strike back -

EICHENWALD: But -

RESTON: Right.

GREGORY: When Trump is still at 35 percent to say, look, it's time to concentrate the mind (ph).

BALDWIN: But why not, David, why not come out forcefully today, if you're Mitt Romney, and you sort of become, I don't know, the de facto leader of the Republican establishment now, I don't know, but why not endorse one candidate forcefully and that, then, would help the party?

GREGORY: Well, I think that Romney wants to play a role where he can stay back a little bit and perhaps negotiate if, at a brokered convention, they need someone to negotiate between the sides. I think he wants to play that role.

BALDWIN: Ah.

GREGORY: And I don't think he's confident enough yet to put his chips down on Rubio.

BALDWIN: One candidate.

GREGORY: I think he'd be most likely to do it for Rubio.

COHEN: Yes, and that's -

GREGORY: And I don't think he's prepared to do it yet.

EICHENWALD: But -

COHEN: That's certainly true, Brooke, of a lot of his donors as well. You have to remember that all of these donors to Mitt Romney, talking to them over the last many months, many of them were still undecided, unsure of Rubio, unsure of Jeb before he got out of that race, and I think that Romney might still be in that same position too, you know, not exactly knowing who's the strongest person to go up against Trump.

BALDWIN: Kurt, I know you want to jump in. Go for it.

EICHENWALD: But this is - this is - this is also the problem here where in this election, and in 2012 when Romney was running, there wasn't an advancement of anything in particular. It wasn't, here is what we're going to do as the non-Trump candidates. It wasn't - you know, it was a - it was a continual, let's attack, let's make noise, let's not tell you how we're going to govern, because the Republican Party hasn't been governing in years. They've just been anti-Obama. And right now they're shifting to anti-Trump. And fundamentally, you know, unless you stand for something, unless you can project something for the future, you're certainly, you know, getting up and name calling and saying you're a loser, you know, is falling into the Trump trap. And it's not going to persuade any Trump voters.

BALDWIN: The Trump trap, Adriana.

COHEN: Yes, and I -

BALDWIN: You know, I want to just - I just want to - we're hearing all these smart voices. We're - and we see him, in fact, let's go, Donald Trump, Portland, Maine.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you. Thank you so much. What a turnout. What a turnout. Wow. Thank you.

[14:10:12] I want to thank Paul. Boy, I'll tell you. I love tough people. You need tough people and he's a tough cookie. And when we got his endorsement, we were thrilled, I will tell you that. He's a great guy.

You know, I was doing a little bit of a thing called a debate.

All right, get them out, please. Get them out. What are they doing, right? What's the purpose? What is it? Well, it gets a little television time, I guess.

But you know I was going to the debate and I was going directly in from Florida. I'm down in Florida. We're campaigning. We're doing really well in Florida. We're campaigning against the guy that has the worst voting record in the history of the state of Florida named Rubio. He's - I call him "lightweight." He's a lightweight.

But got the worst record in the history of Florida. So, I don't know, I should do well there. Let's hope I do well there. I love Florida.

But I was - I was going to Detroit. And I said to my people, I have to stop in Maine. I felt so - I just had to stop in Maine.

So I wouldn't say that it's a very direct route, would you say? Instead of going this way, I went this way and this way and that is good. I'm so glad.

And, you know, to put - to put this incredible sold out crowd and you have thousands of people outside, to put this crowd together in a period of, what, 24 hours, is incredible. And Maine is amazing. You know, Maine is one of the most beautiful places on earth. And people don't realize how large your land mass is. I was talking to Paul. As large as all of New England when you think of it. That's some piece of land. Can I buy some, please? Can I buy some? Can I buy some?

So, you know, I've been watching with great interest as we get to, you know, go down the line. We've had some amazing results. And right nearby with New Hampshire, we - it was an amazing, incredible thing. And, by the way, they - every single time I went to New Hampshire, whenever I met with people, they'd always say number one problem, number one problem, heroin. Number one problem. And I'd say, how's that possible? You know, you look at these beautiful fields and the beautiful little roads and everything's so beautiful and it was the number one problem. And it comes from our southern border. And we're going to close up that border and we're going to build a wall and we're going to stop the drugs from coming in, believe me. We're going to stop.

And people are going to come into our country, but they're going to come in legally. They're going to come in legally. But we're going to solve the problem.

But, you know, I watch these pundits. And when I first started, my wife, Melania, and I, we came down the escalator, right, and I first started and it was an amazing thing. I said, you know, we have to do something because we have people that don't know what they're doing. They don't know what they're doing in running our country. And I got some of that today, you know, just in hearing some of these things. But they don't know what they're doing. We have to do it. And it takes guts to run for president. I'm not a politician. I'm not a politician. All talk, no action, nothing gets done.

And, anyway, we're coming down and I said to myself, you know, there's so many things - and then I watched the pundits and they said, oh, Trump, I don't know, we have some great talent running. And I'm trying to figure out where, where, what's the talent, what's the talent? But, you know, you come down and you do it and you start talking about trade and you see what happens with trade. Trade has been - trade has been such a disaster.

But the pundits all said, you know, I came out at 3 percent, the first one, and my wife said, you know if you run you're going to win, but you actually have to run. You can't say you're going to run because they won't poll it. But even if they do poll it, people still say you're not going to run. She said, but if you run, you're going to win. I said, oh. She's my pollster. She's my pollster. I paid her less money, but she's my - she's better than the poll (ph).

So you know what happened? I started at three. The first day or something I was at three, which I wasn't exactly thrilled about. Then it went up to six, it went up to 12, it went up to 18 and then it kept going up. And every time I went up the pundits would say, he's plateaued. You know, plateaued. Well, he's always going to get six. That's a six solid group. Then I went up to 12. Well, you know, that's a solid group. Then I went up to 24. And he said - and, don't forget, that's with 17. We had 17 people. That's a lot. Twenty-four with 17 people is pretty good. So we went up to 24 and they said, well, that's the max. There can't be anymore. Then we went up to 28, 32.

[14:15:05] So CNN just came out with a poll, Trump, 49, nationally. That's high. That's high. And, you know, I'm very proud of it because this is not a plateau. This is a movement. We have a movement going on, folks.

"Time" magazine did a story recently a couple of weeks ago talking about what's going on. And they've never seen anything like it. People have never seen it. They say actually, and I don't think I'm exaggerating this at all, and I don't want to exaggerate, but many of the great writers, of which there are very few because the media's among the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with, but they said - they said that in the history of this country, there's never been anything like this, what's happening.

We were in Huntsville, Alabama, the other day. We had 35,000 people. Thirty-five thousand people. We were - we went to Arkansas, which you saw we won.

Oh, is that another one? All right, get them out. Get them out. Get them out. They just don't stop. All right, get them out. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Terrible. Incredible. Now you know you can be nice. But if you're nice, they'll say, oh, you were so soft. Then you can be vicious, get out of here, right, and then they'll say you were too harsh. So I've developed a nice - all right, please get them out.

It's incredible. I love you, too. I love you, too. I love you, too.

And, by the way, you know, I'm self-funding my campaign. I'm putting up all my money. I'm not - but you have to do - all I want - I don't want your money. I just want one thing, your vote on Saturday. Get out and vote.

Don't forget, I did that big, long turn, slightly long. Did a big turn. So you can get out to vote, OK. That's the least you can.

So - thank you. Thank you very much.

So our country and our theme is make America great again. And over the last little while, I've met so many people, thousands and thousands and thousands of people. We have like this. Now this is - we're only confined by the size of the room. This is packed, but this is the size of room. Thousands and thousands of great, great Americans. And I have more confidence in this country now that I've ever had before. I have seen - I mean millions of people really, because when you get 35,000, 40,000 people for rallies - and we have by far the biggest rallies. I will say that. And Bernie is second. He's second. But he's a distant second. But he is second. I have to give him credit for that.

But we have by far the biggest. And I see by far the most people. And this country has unbelievable people that love our country. Just remember that. And I want to see the day in the not too distance future when Apple makes their iPhones in this country and not in China and all of these other places.

Now, I heard, and I saw just a little bit of it, but I heard that Mitt Romney made a fairly long speech. And, I mean, honestly, I thought - I'll just address it quickly because it's irrelevant. Look, Mitt is a failed candidate. He failed. He failed horribly. The third - he - he failed badly. That was a race, I have to say, folks, that should have been won. That was a race that absolutely should have been won. And I don't know what happened to him.

He disappeared. He disappeared. And I wasn't happy about it, I'll be honest, because I am not a fan of Barack Obama, and that was a race - and I backed Mitt Romney. I backed him. You can see how loyal he is. He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said, Mitt, drop to your knees. He would have dropped to his knees. He was begging. True. True. He was begging me.

And did you see how - he said, oh, I'm not big like him. He's the great business man, all that stuff. Well, since then, I'm - I've done much better and now he tries to (INAUDIBLE), but we'll talk about that in a second.

But Mitt was thinking about running again. He ran a horrible campaign. It was a campaign that should have never been lost. You're running against a failed president. He came up with the 47 percent. He demeaned 47 percent of the people in our country, right, the famous 47 percent. Once that was said, I'll be honest, once that was said, a lot of people thought it was over for him. Then the last month and a half, he disappeared. And I called his people. I said, you have to do yourself a favor. Obama, say what you want, he was on Jay Leno, he was on David Letterman, he was all over the place the last three, four weeks. Mitt was looking for zoning for a nine car garage or something in California, right? I said, what's he doing? Who cares about a garage, you're running for president.

[14:20:18] And Mitt was a disaster as a candidate. So what happened? And it was very strong. And I think if the press goes back, they'll see it. When I heard he was running again - and I wasn't sure I was going to be running. But I was very, very strong to Mitt and to everybody and publicly, not to talk to him because I didn't even want to talk to him. I was so disappointed in him because he let us down. He let us down.

You know, it's one thing you lose and you work and you work and you go. Help let us down. He should have won. Something happened though. He went away. He was gone. He was horrible in the third debate. It was a horrible - something happened. I don't know what happened. Maybe someday they'll write a book. His campaign guy was terrible, terrible. He had a terrible campaign manager who's always on television, Stewart Stevens (ph) or something. He's always on television knocking everybody. The guy ran one of the worst campaigns in the history of modern politics. And Mitt ran - probably it was the worst run that most people have seen, because most people thought that the Republican candidate would win.

So when Mitt started raising his head a few months ago, I was very strong. I said Mitt Romney should not run. He's a choke artist. And I said it very strongly. I wanted to keep him in. And then Jeb Bush actually convinced Mitt not to run. Can you imagine? Jeb, Jeb sold him. Jeb, he's a good salesman. See, now that he's out, I'll say Jeb's a good salesman, right? He's a high energy salesman.

But Mitt was afraid of Jeb because he was afraid that Jeb would get the money and Jeb would get the whatever and, you know, I wasn't - I wasn't afraid. I wasn't afraid of Jeb, I can tell you that.

So what happened is, Jeb Bush convinced Mitt not to run. Mitt was going to run. It was going to be a third attempt. His second one being one of the great catastrophes. The first one just didn't happen, so that's OK. But the second was a catastrophe. And what happened is, he went to see Jeb and Jeb had him convinced that he's going to run, he's got the money, he's this, and Mitt chickened out.

But I'll tell you the real reason he chickened out. It wasn't Jeb. It was me. Because I said he's a coke - if you remember, Mitt was all set to run. I know this from people that are close to him. And I think he probably still has a desire maybe at the convention to try and get some kind of a thing. Hillary Clinton will destroy him in the election. Assuming she's allowed to run, assuming she's not arrested for the e-mail situation, which is so terrible, which is so terrible. I mean so terrible.

But let's assume that the Democrats are going to protect her. Let's assume that I will be running against Hillary. And I really want to. I would love to run against Hillary. And by the way, we have numerous polls that show me beating her easily and I haven't even started on her yet other than four weeks ago I did. Remember? She called me sexist and I hit her with the husband and that was the last time I ever heard the word "sexist." That was it. No, that was it.

They had a rough weekend. That was a rough weekend. Bill was not happy. He - I guarantee you, he said, don't you ever say that to him again. Say it to somebody else, but not to Trump. That was a rough, rough weekend they had.

But Mitt was going to run as sure as you're standing here. I'm sorry we didn't get you seats. To many people. But he was going to run. And I was very, very angry that he was going to run. I didn't even know I was going to be doing this, but I felt I wanted to. You know, NBC came to me. They wanted to extend "The Apprentice" for two season, 28 episodes. Steve Burke - no, Steve Burke of Comcast, great guy, came up to my office with the people at NBC, please, Donald, we'd like you to run. We'd like you to - you know, not run, we'd like you to run in "The Apprentice," do "The Apprentice." The ratings after 14 seasons were still fantastic. They were still great. And I said, Steve, I think I'm going to run for president. No, no, no, you're not, you're not. No, I think I'm going to run for president. But they didn't want me to. They wanted me to - because the show does great.

And ultimately I decided to run and you're not allowed by law, with equal time laws, you're not allowed to do both. And we chose Arnold Schwarzenegger. Let's see, how will Arnold do, by the way? Does anybody know? Who would be better, Arnold or Trump? Ready? Arnold? Trump? Well, we're going to find out if Arnold is quick, because if he's not quick, he's not going to look good. When you have Amarosa (ph) and all the other ones coming at you, you've got to be quick, you've got to be smart. We'll find out. We're going to learn a lot about Arnold. But I hope he does well. I hope Arnold does really well.

But I was going to do that and they - they - I mean they actually renewed the show with me in the upfronts and I just - I just said, I can't do it. I'm not going to do it. And I gave up a lot of deals. I gave up a lot of things. To do this takes a lot of effort, a lot of - oh, those are the people trying to get in. Can you believe it?

[14:25:08] Yes. OK, how about everybody now clearing out, we'll let a new group in. Is that OK? No?

So, anyway, so when I heard Mitt was going to run, a little before this period of time, I was very tough. I said, he can't run. He can't run. He was going to run. He can't run. Then I started to say, look, we've got to keep him out because he's going to lose. He's a choke artist. He's an absolute - and I started hitting him so hard. In fact, people say, why did you hit him so hard? Because we cannot take another loss. We can't take another loss. And Mitt is indeed a choke artist. He choked and he choked like I've never seen anyone choke, other than Rubio when Chris Christie was grilling him.

That was one of the great chokes. Oh, no. Rubio of Florida, that was one of the great chokes I've ever seen. He was standing there shaking, sweating. I was getting ready - I'm standing here like this. He's right over here. I'm getting ready to grab him because I thought he was going down. I'm telling you.

But Mitt did a big, big choke. And we had to keep him out.

So, look, a couple of things I heard he said. First of all, you know, he doesn't mention the fact that I built a city on the west side of Manhattan. That I built buildings all over Manhattan. He didn't mention (INAUDIBLE) this that - he was talking about a beef (ph). He talked about a water company, which, by the way, I still have. I supply all my clubs with the water. You know, numerous of those things I have, the magazine, other things.

Get them - get them out of here. Get them out. Get them out.

Hey, by the way, speaking of Mexico, I won the Hispanic vote by far in Nevada, right? We won - we won the Hispanic vote in Nevada in the polls during the - we won Nevada. We won South Carolina. We won New Hampshire. Then we had the big, big Tuesday where we won a tremendous number. And - and I have to tell you this. So ultimately Mitt chickened out. And now he's saying - he probably sees that Hillary is very weak and now he's saying, oh, I wish I went, I wish I tried it. But, ultimately, he didn't because he would have getten - he would have gotten beaten very badly.

But I'll tell you what. A couple of things were mentioned that we have to discuss. First of all, when he talks about me, I wrote just a couple of them down. When he talks about me, they don't want to talk about 92 story buildings all over the place. They don't want to talk about the Bank of America building in San Francisco, 1290 Avenue of the Americas. They don't want to talk about the west side railroad yards where I built the city on west side of Manhattan. A tremendous city on the west side of Manhattan. They don't want to talk about 40 Wall Street and all the buildings. They want to talk about water, which I still have. I supply all my clubs. I have a water company.

They want to talk about a magazine. And I have a magazine that goes to all my clubs. They want little tiny thing. You know, whatever you can find. By the way, a school, little deal but very, you know, I loved it when it was there, Trump - they call it Trump University, Trump Initiative. But I will tell you, just so you understand the school. The school had 98 percent approval rating. But yet an attorney that felt, oh, maybe I can sue Trump and get something, the school had a 98 percent - in other words, 98 percent of the people that took the courses, we signed report cards. That's why you can't settle a case like that. You put somebody up on the stand. Did you write this?

The most beautiful thing. They did a commercial, they took it down, where two people were going and saying negative and then we showed then, the statement they wrote. They had to take the commercial down because 98 percent of the people that took the course, that took the courses, said really wonderful things about it.

The other thing, it's got an A, an A from the Better Business Bureau. So, I say, how do I settle a case like this? A B-plus would be OK too. B-plus would be OK, but we did better than a B-plus.

So, so I can't - and here's one thing I say about business. I watch these bankers and they get millions of dollars a year. $40 million, $50 million. Frankly, it's ridiculous. And then they'll settle with the government and they're sued by the government for $2 billion, $3 billion, $5 billion, $12 billion. And I say to them, why don't you fight it? They said, well, it's the government, we don't want to fight. Well, I say, you've got to fight it because if you don't fight it, everyone's going to sue you. And that's what happens. You have to see it. They settle for $2 billion. The next week they get sued again. You've got to fight these things out. You have to do things -- you have to do what's right.

So with the university, I knew I could get some bad publicity, but I have to - I have to do what's right. Do we agree with that, by the way? So it's a very small case. It's a civil case. It's not a big deal. And I'm going to win it in court. And it will cost me more money to win it in court than I could settle for, in my opinion, but I'm going to win it in court. And I said, oh, this is lousy timing because it's too bad it wasn't a little bit later because I happen to be running for president.

[14:29:51] But I have other suits too. Any business man or business woman has lawsuits. People sue to get their money back. They sue for this. They sue for that. They sue for a million different reasons. So just so you understand, 98 percent approval rating, an A from the Better Business Bureau. We're going to win the case. Mark it down. We're going to win the case. It will be forever because it takes forever, but that's the way it is. I don't like to settle cases.