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Taliban group claims responsibility for an attack at a park in the city of Lahore, Pakistan; Bernie Sanders sweeping democratic races in three crucial states; protests are growing through the weekend in both North Carolina and Georgia; Donald Trump repeatedly accused auto giant ford of outsourcing jobs to Mexico; government forces pushed ISIS out of a city that symbolizes tragedy of war in Syria; 5-6p ET

Aired March 27, 2016 - 17:00   ET

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[17:00:00] POPPY HARLOW, CNN NEWSROOM HOST: Top of the hour at 5:00 p.m. eastern. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. We begin with ugly clashes at a peaceful rally today intended to remember the victims of the terror attacks in Belgium. Hundreds of right wing demonstrators briefly overtook the memorial site to terror victims in downtown Brussels.

We see it all playing out there. They trampled flowers, mementos, they chanted anti-immigrant slogans. Riot police used water cannons to disperse the protesters while other crowds chanted not hatred. Tensions already running high as a larger peace march planned for the day at that memorial site was canceled in that security concerns. These as victims of Tuesday's attacks are faced with the difficult task of having to return to the scene of that bombing to try to retrieve their personal belongs. Items they left behind as they ran for their lives.

My colleague Alexandra Field was there for some of the survivors' tearful return.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was a matter of time. So you live with that.

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Every minute mattered, but only some people get time to think about that. They are here waiting to go back.

Minutes before that you had been in the same spot where the bombs went off.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes. But I was lucky, I did online check-in. Because came in, and immediately went to the gate.

FIELD: He narrowly missed the blast.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At the beginning, nobody could reach me. I couldn't call. After 10, 15 minutes, I could call my wife. She was very in panic, she was panicked. She couldn't reach me.

FIELD: Another woman tells us she touched down right in the aftermath.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We saw the whole facade, basically from the bus we could see the roof that was completely shattered, the glass roof, and then when we got out of the bus, we could see the whole front area basically with all the glass shattered. So people were just still walking down from there, and ambulances is driving up.

FIELD: When you realize you could have been in that airport at the time this happened --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Few minutes, yes. It's a real shock. It was a really bad day in the days after, starting to get better now, but really tough.

FIELD: The airport is still a crime scene, it's being guarded 24 hours a day by both police and members of the military. The only people who have gotten through the barricade are the ones part of the investigation until now. Some of the first people getting back in here are some of the last people who got out.

It's time, they are picking up many of the 6,000 cars left behind, but no one will be allowed into the terminal.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The crime scene investigation is still ongoing. There is still, of course, a lot of luggage, hand luggage, and personal belongings that are in the buildings. These buildings are not accessible to us yet.

FIELD: Engineers are asserting the damage. There's still no word on when the building where two bombs exploded will be back open. Another matter of time.

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FIELD: Certainly a difficult first step for the people who are in that airport to return to the scene of the crime. A spokesperson for the airport has said that the terminal itself was blocked from their view and they went back to pick up their cars and some of their personal things like suitcases left on the plane, Poppy.

As for the matter of opening the airport itself, we are told that - (INAUDIBLE) and engineers have done -- are partially opening areas while that work is done.

HARLOW: Alexandra Field live for us in Brussels tonight. Alex, thank you very much.

Let's bring in Tara Palmeri. She is a reporter and columnist for "Politico." She is based I Brussels ad has a unique perspective on all of this.

And Tara, I have been listening to your reporting through that week. And I just want to get from you, because you live there. This is your home. This is where you work. You have friends and colleagues there. Walk me through the mindset of the people of Belgium right now. Is the fear palpable? Are they defiant? What do you see? TARA PALMERI, REPORTER/COLUMNIST, POLITICO: I feel a lot of sadness

right now. Especially among some friends and colleagues figuring out who is injured, what kind of condition people are in that were injured. And I mean, at the same time you still see people sitting outside in cafes, having brunch, trying to carry on with their lives. Literally, like 300 meters from the riot we saw outside of all of these crazy hooligans, chanting these racist chants. You have people, a few hundred meters away, just carrying on with their lives. So I think Belgians are interesting. They are very placid. Very calm type of people. So I almost feel more sadness than like anger except from obviously the nationalist group we heard earlier today.

But I think people are trying to figure out how they live their lives from now on. I mean, our offices at "Politico" are right above that mall beat metro that was bombed. I'm going to walk to work this week. I mean, I'm not taking the metro. I don't know when I will start taking the metro again. Yes, I just don't feel comfortable. It is a crime scene to me now.

HARLOW: I completely understand. And not even being in Brussels. I mean, as I got on the subway again last night, I was just sort of thinking to myself, should I would be taking a taxi, should I not? And that you know, is in a city where we haven't even had the bombing that you had on the metro.

Let me ask you this. I spent a lot of time in Paris right in the wake of the terror attack there covering it. And what I was surprised to see was the defiance of the French people, even when the government said don't come out, don't gather in mass. They did exactly the opposite. (INAUDIBLE), they came out in mass. And that was their way of telling the terrorists, you haven't one. It sounds like you are seeing something a little bit different in Brussels?

Looks like we lost her shot. We are going to try to get that back. But Tara Palmeri, again, "Politico" reporter based in Brussels, their office ahead of the metro station that was bombed. She said to us, they doesn't even feel comfortable taking the metro there. The sadness is palpable obviously for the people of Brussels. Tara, thank you |much.

Coming up this week on CNN, our Chris Cuomo does returns to Paris to investigate terror in Paris. But it is the CNN Special Report Wednesday night 9:00 p.m. eastern only right here on CNN.

Meantime, families celebrating Easter Sunday at a park in Lahore, Pakistan. Today, they were the target of a deadly attack, at least 67 dead. More than 300 injured. Many of the victims are women and children. And those families were the specific targets of the suicide bombing.

According to a spokesman where splinter group of the Pakistani Taliban who spoke to CNN taking responsibility for the attack claiming such attacks will continue.

Let's bring in Kimberly Dozier. She is our global affairs analyst. And when you look at this horrific attack on Easter, Christians, the

minority group there targeting women and children, targeted. If you look at the big picture in the last eight days, here is what we have seen. We have seen Istanbul attacked. We have seen Brussels attacked. We have seen a part of Iraq attacked. Today you have got women and children in Pakistan. Give me your take on the religious significance and symbolism of this happening on Easter Sunday.

KIMBERLY DOZIER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Well, some of this is stuff that happens, violence that happens just inside Pakistan that has to do with Pakistani politics. And there is a piece that's part of the larger global fight between different militant groups for supremacy.

The group that attacked the Christian community in Pakistan today, turns out to be the same group that claimed responsibility for attacks in the same city a year ago against two Christian churches. And that time it was attributed to part of their effort to bring attention away from ISIS and back to their group and the larger Pakistani Taliban. It was about vying for attention. But it was also about constantly trying to prove to the Pakistani government that they are not in control. So that's why you've got the concentric rings that micro inside Pakistan and then this larger fight for attention against ISIS which of course has opened up what it calls the four-son (ph) brigade next door in Afghanistan.

HARLOW: When you look back at the past eight days, you had four separate attacks in four separate countries, what does that tell you for the need for a more global coordinated response? Is that's possible, Kimberly, I mean, coming from admittedly different groups here?

DOZIER: Well, you know, there has been long-standing efforts towards cooperation between the U.S. and Pakistani government between governments in the region. But there were some real issues especially within Europe about information sharing. And what this increased drum beat of attacks could do is break down some of those barriers and encourage local governments say Belgium, Germany, to look again at the privacy laws. To look again at some of the barriers that their law enforcement faces when going after a terrorist suspect and think about reform.

The thing is, we are talking about things that can take a lot of time and the terrorist networks have the advantage of no rules. They can move a lot faster.

HARLOW: Again, this attack in Pakistan, they are saying the death toll now is 67. Upward of 300 injured and those numbers could easily rise.

Kimberly Dozier, thank you so much. Stay with me, a lot more to talk about with you on Brussels ahead.

Ahead this hour, a lot of news. ISIS losing its grip on a key city in Syria. How Syrian government forces pulled off the victory. What it means on the war on ISIS going forward. Also to politics, clean sweep Bernie Sanders wins big in the west.

But is it enough to make a dent in Hillary Clinton's delegate lead? And we will hear Donald Trump and he promises, as you know, time and time again to make America great again. Now you will hear what leaders of two iconic companies, Ford and Starbucks, have to say about their selection and issue number one on voters' minds that is jobs in the economy. My exclusive one on one interviews coming up right here.

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[17:13:04] HARLOW: All right, turning now to the race for the White House, Bernie Sanders relishing a clean sweep this weekend over Hillary Washington state, Hawaii, and Alaska. He won them by big, big margins. And as Sanders told our Jake Tapper this morning on "STATE OF THE UNION," he believes he has momentum on his side.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think every vote is pivotal. We are now winning in state after state. The Latino vote. We're doing better now that we're out of the south with the African-American vote. We're doing extraordinarily well with young people. And we think we do have a path toward victory.

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HARLOW: With me now, CNN commentator Clinton supporter Bakari Sellers.

Bakari, nice to have you on. Thank you.

BAKARI SELLERS, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you for having me. And happy holidays, Poppy.

HARLOW: Happy holidays. Happy Easter to you.

We heard Sanders going into great detail this morning with Jake talking about his path forward and the super delegates and how he believes he can get them on his side and that he has momentum now. That now they are out of the south. Are you concerned at all about the momentum that could cause these super delegates to switch over to Sanders? It has happened before. Just think back to 2008.

SELLERS: Well, that's not all the way true, Poppy. In 2008 only 57 total delegates actually swapped from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama throughout the pendency of the campaign. So that's a misnomer going forward.

But yesterday was a great day for Bernie Sanders. In fact I coined it yesterday western Sanders Saturday. He had an amazing performance where he won those three caucus states. But going forward, the path does become a little bit more narrow and it becomes more treacherous because we know he has been dominating caucus states. But we only have five states remaining and only two of those are state side. That's North Dakota and Wyoming. He has to have a wide margin of victory in states like Pennsylvania, Maryland, New York, where we have a more diverse population, California as well. He is going to have to maintain momentum. And that's going to be difficult.

[17:15:03] HARLOW: So let's talk about New York as an example, right. I mean, New York, you have Bernie Sanders from Brooklyn. You have obviously Hillary Clinton who was senator of New York. Home in New York. There is the question, though, of which way New York will go. One of the former campaign advisors to Clinton was quoted in the times as saying or quoted in "the Washington Post" to saying look, if a lot of African-Americans come out and vote, that's going to really help Clinton in New York. If they don't, that is going to help Sanders. Are you that confident about New York?

SELLERS: Well, I'm fairly confident about New York. I mean, I think Hillary Clinton is the presumptive nominee. She was the presumptive nominee. And after last night she still is that. But she is going to have to campaign. There is no doubt about it. But New York is a closed primary. And that something that we have to keep an eye on. Bernie Sanders does much better in open primaries because Hillary Clinton and Democratic primary wins over two thirds of Democratic voters.

And so, with that little statistic, with that little fact, I anticipate that Hillary Clinton will do well in New York. And anticipate she will do well in Maryland. She will do very well in Pennsylvania. And largely because of the diversity of those states. We know that in Washington, Hawaii and Alaska yesterday, there was no greater population of African-American voters than five percent.

And so that's going to change as they move forward. And Bernie Sanders is going to have to expand his base if he is going to pulls off some busted Douglas Mike Tyson knockout.

HARLOW: Just having vision right now, Bakari.

All right. Let's talk about terror and a quote that really stood out to us today in "the New York Times." They quoted Warren Jones as 65- year-old retired software engineer from Seattle voted yesterday. Here is what he said about Clinton. He said she was wrong in Iraq and proved she didn't learn from that experience bur was wrong in Libya too. He went on to say I think in large part she is responsible for ISIS though there is plenty of blame to go around.

What do you see to voters like him who you want on your side and the polling does show Clinton way ahead as when it comes to who is best equipped to deal with terror. But what do you say to folks like Warren?

SELLERS: Well, I think Warren is where most Americans are in terms of the fact he is worried about the safety and security of our country. You can't look any American in the eye and say you dare not be afraid. You dare not be worried. Because we see what happens in San Bernardino. We see what happens in Paris. See what happens --

HARLOW: But he is saying your candidate is partially responsible for the rise of ISIS?

SELLERS: Well, and I don't find that to be rooted in any fact whatsoever. But if you want to look at candidates and you want to see their platforms, what you do know is that slogans and bluster are not going to defeat ISIS. Hillary Clinton --.

HARLOW: Why are you saying it is not rooted in -- the fact is, that she was secretary of state in the Obama administration when the decision was made to pull out of Iraq? Yes, she said I would do things differently in Syria. I would have armed the rebel sooner. But she was part of that administration.

SELLERS: There is no doubt about it. But Hillary Clinton is the only one with the plan in this race to actually combat ISIS. She is the only one who is talking about increasing air support. She is the only one talking about increasing ground troops or making sure we have ground support for the air in Kurdish. She is the only one talking about making sure that we have a diplomatic solution to what is going on in Syria and the Iraq sectarian war that was going on. She is the only one that is actually having these discussions and moving forward. But to say that Hillary Clinton is to somehow blame for ISIS and ISIL is just fundamentally not correct.

I do understand that that gentleman is worried. That worry is all around us. That worry is palpable. But Hillary Clinton is not responsible for ISIS and ISIL. But as we move forward, I think that the choices are very clear. Are we going to choose Hillary Clinton who is sound, who has policy? Or are we going to choose Ted Cruz and Donald Trump who were talking about banning all Muslims and Muslim surveillance and communities. I mean, I think the choice is really clear. It is foreign policy versus policy rooted in hate and bigotry.

HARLOW: Bakari Sellers, thank you very much. And I do want to let our viewers know we will have Symone Sanders on, from the Sanders camp. We will talk about the statements with her coming up in the 6:00 p.m. hour. Thank you Bakari.

On Tuesday night, you will hear from all three remaining Republican candidates right here on CNN. It is the Milwaukee Republican presidential town hall. 8:00 p.m. eastern only right here on CNN.

Coming up, news of a major victory in the fight against ISIS. How Syrian forces recapture the city held for months by the terror group. What is it this mean for the greater fight ahead?

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[17:23:20] HARLOW: In Syria today, government forces pushed ISIS out of a city that symbolizes tragedy of war. Syrian television is reporting that forces from the government, militias loyal to President Assad have driven ISIS out of the historic city of Palmyra. ISIS has held the city since May and destroying many ancient historic and holy sites. This is a UNESCO World heritage site. It contains ruins one of the city that was one of the most important cultural centers of the ancient world.

But even as ISIS loses ground in Syria the bombings in Brussels this week prove that the terror groups still have a frightening reach. Russia Vladimir Putin today congratulated colleagues on Syrian forces liberating Palmyra from the terrorists.

Let's talk about the bigger picture of this. Kimberly Dozier, our global affairs analyst is back with me.

And if you look at this week for ISIS, many analyst consider the number two man who was killed on Friday to be critical in the structure. Someone that is known as sort of the finance minister of ISIS, if you will. That happened. Syrian forces now retaking Palmyra. But then again, they were successful in pulling off a deadly, deadly attack in Brussels. What are the bigger picture implications of what we have seen this week?

DOZIER: Well we can see the two trends going on. ISIS losing on the battlefield but already succeeding in Europe and as we keep hearing about succeeding in growing a following inside Libya. It already for saw this and migrated skilled operatives and money in other directions.

So yes, they did take out a major facilitator, called the finance chief on Friday. But even then, Pentagon chiefs were saying, we know that ISIS can fairly quickly replace this guy. We just have to keep the pressure on. Is just lost territory though to Assad and that puts the U.S. in an awkward position of if Assad takes more and more territory in northern Syria, and the rebels are just left with the small rump state in the corner, why should Assad negotiate?

[17:25:31] HARLOW: Right. Exactly. And now Russia is pulling out and everything gets complicated.

Let's turn to Brussels, though. I mean, you were on this program live with us from Brussels, from Molenbeek last weekend on the show. And you said to me, look, the intelligence community, my intelligence sources are telling me right now that the concern is a reprisal attack after Salah Abdeslam was arrested and catch him to the terrorist attack. Unfortunately, you were right. Look what happened. What are intelligence sources that you are speaking with most concern about comes next.

DOZIER: Well, I would say they were right. They, at the time we were also saying, you know, Brussels and Europe writ large needs to do more a lot of reform to share more intelligence. I know I keep harping on this, but intelligence drives operations and stops terror attacks. But they were saying -- I spoke to a few different people, high ranking counterterrorism officials who said that at this point Belgium is in the middle of the fight and isn't sort of sitting back and thinking introspectively about what needs to be changed.

After Tuesday you can see some of that painful introspection is happening with the number of senior ministers offering resignation. And over this weekend the interior minister saying you know what, we spent almost $700 million on this kind of reform over the past two years. But we see it's not working. So writ large what it could do is, you know, remember there was the whole backlash after the revolutions of Edward Snowden when people realized in Europe that the U.S. and Britain were spying on them and they couldn't get much cooperation in return at that time. Now I think you're going to see European nations looking again and saying you know what? Maybe we do need to loosen some of our privacy laws and push more information out there.

HARLOW: Sort of what civil liberties are we willing to give up or compromise a bit for security?

Kimberly Dozier live for us tonight in Washington. Thank you very much.

Coming up next, Doctor Sanjay Gupta takes us inside the psychology of terrorism. How are our brains programmed to fight back against fear? That's next.

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[17:31:04] HARLOW: All right. This just into us at CNN. The state department now confirming four Americans were killed in Tuesday's terror attack in Belgium. The identity of the two additional Americans who we just learned about has not yet been released. When we do find out their identity, we, of course, will bring it to you.

Just today, President Obama spoke to the parents of the two of other American victims. You see them there, Justin and Stephanie Schultz. Husband and wife killed in the airport bombing in Brussels. Justin was just 30 years old. Stephanie was only 29. They were from Tennessee. They lived in Brussels. And they had just dropped off Stephanie's mother at the airport when the bombs ripped through the departure hall. Their deaths were confirmed yesterday.

There is a deeply painful psychological effect to bombings and killings that terrorists try to capitalize on. And our Dr. Sanjay Gupta takes us inside.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Make no mistake. Terrorism is a strategic war against our minds. Its weapon, fear, panic, and most importantly, an overwhelming feeling of vulnerability.

If we feel vulnerable, we will be in constant fear. And that's exactly what they are trying to achieve. Bombs are set off in places where we gather. The message, we will find you. Where you work and play. Shooting unsuspecting innocent people. The message, there is nowhere to hide. Videos revealing the horrors of rape, mass murder and beheadings, even beheadings carried out by children.

The message, no one is immune. In fact, fallen terrorist attacks show it is the most vulnerable of us who suffer the longest especially those with personal histories of trauma. But almost everyone maybe fearful or anxious for a few weeks, the vast majority of us will prove resilient. And in this regard, experts say terrorism is a failed strategy because research shows a terror often back fires making nations stronger as citizens ban together and angry countries join ranks to fight back. But history is also proven terrorism only works if we allow ourselves to be terrorized. (END VIDEOTAPE)

HARLOW: Sanjay, thank you for that.

Juliette Kayyem is with me. She is our national security analyst, former assistant secretary of homeland security.

Thank you so much for being with me. You wrote a fascinating opinion piece in "the Washington Post." And here is part of it.

All these queries of a world in mayhem boil down to, is my family safe. The answer is both simple and liberating. No, not entirely. American was built vulnerable and thank goodness for that.

That struck me. What do you mean thank goodness for that?

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, it just means that when what we love about a vibrant country like ours, like the United States or Western Europe is the flow of people and goods and ideas, the idea that we can get online and get on a plane and move. I mean, it is essentially movement. But any movement makes us inherently vulnerable. And so, the idea that any wall or any visa regulations or you know, any rule is going to stop all terrorism is sort of a, I think, a very sort of misleading way to live. And so we really do need to judge government on whether it can minimize the risk, maximize our defenses, you know, in terms of first responders and others and then also maintain who we are as a nation. Right?

HARLOW: True. But this brings up the question of how far government can go, right? I mean, getting on and off the subway in New York City, we keep hearing again and again, they cannot put metal detectors at the entrance of every subway station and filter people through. It would never, never work. So what should we expect?

KAYYEM: Well, a couple things. Look. We have to expect that there would be some level of terrorism or violence in any country like ours. If you just think of the millions of people that are getting on mass transit systems, in a single day, there is no system of security that is going to be able to stop them, right? So what we try to do is have layered security so that people can still move and you lower the risk.

But I think that this idea that we can get to perfect security and no risk is just a very -- a very dangerous way to believe that this country can function. And so part of what I was trying to find to remind people is this country has never been completely invulnerable. I mean, in some ways, this is a new violence. But it is not - it is in a history of a country that has had its, you know, terror.

HARLOW: Absolutely. Juliette, thank you. Stay with me. Because again our breaking news this hour, the fact that we now know four Americans were killed in that attack on Tuesday in Brussels, four. We thought it was two. Now the state department saying it is four. Much more on that ahead. Juliette will join us on the security concerns.

Also, for all of you watching, if you want to help the victims, loved ones, et cetera, just log on to CNN.com/impact. Again, CNN.com/impact.

Coming up next, I sat down one on one this week with the man at the helm of one of America's biggest companies, Ford. His take on Donald Trump and the criticism that Trump has laid out to the auto maker that they are shipping their jobs out of this country.

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HARLOW: Donald Trump has come out a number of times and said ford is shipping jobs to Mexico. What do you say to him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We created 25,000 since 2011. And going forward over the next four years, we have agreed to retain or add another 8500 jobs.

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HARLOW: Bottom line, he says Trump is wrong. Our exclusive sit down is next.

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[17:40:29] HARLOW: Donald Trump has made it clear he is not a fan of free trade. In particular, he has repeatedly accused auto giant ford of outsourcing jobs to Mexico. Listen.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would tell the people at Ford, I don't want you to do that. I don't want you to close your plants. I want you to build new plants. You don't have to have the old ones. And I don't care it could be anywhere, but it's got to be in the United States.

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HARLOW: But here's the thing, I sat down this week with the man at the helm of Ford, Mark Fields, and I asked him point blank, is Trump right?

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HARLOW: Donald Trump has come out a number of times and said Ford is shipping jobs to Mexico. What do you say to him?

MARK FIELDS, CEO, FORD: We created 25,000 jobs since 2011. And going forward over the next four years we will add or retain or add another 8500 jobs. The amount of money that we invest in R&D here is more than companies like Apple. We export more than 400,000 vehicles out of the U.S. auto markets around the world. So we are absolutely proud of what we do to contribute to economic development in our home country.

HARLOW: How R&D --

FIELDS: At the same time, we are a multinational company and it is important to be competitive around the world.

HARLOW: You wrote him a letter saying this.

FIELDS: Yes, I did.

HARLOW: Did he respond?

FIELDS: Yes, he did.

HARLOW: What did he say?

FIELDS: He said, you know, thanks for your note.

HARLOW: Free trade is critical for you, guys. Donald Trump has said that free trade deals starting with NAFTA going through TPP. Have caused the middle class to quote "disappear." He said we quote "sold out the U.S. worker." Free trade is core to your business. Is he right?

FIELDS: Well, from our standpoint as a company we have supported literally every free trade agreement since we've been a public company. And when you look at our business, we today we export almost 400,000 vehicles a year from the U.S. to various different countries around the world.

But as we think about our business, we have said very clearly as we have these free trade agreements for example the TPP, the Trans Specific Partnership, we have said listen, we don't support that in its current form unless it has discipline currency controls where we don't want countries to just go out just manipulate their currencies to make their goods cheaper to import into the U.S.

HARLOW: But him pointing it free trade as to why the bottom is falling out much of the middle class in his perspective and not talking about technology, you see them both in your factories. I've been in the factories. I've seen what robots have replaced and what humans still do. Is he right to point to free trade on that o or do you see it as bigger?

FIELDS: I think it as a bigger issue. As we look at Ford, for example, you know, we have been able since 2011 to hire over 25,000 people. As we are also upgrading our facilities here in the U.S. to be more productive, have more automation.

HARLOW: Are those 25,000 hires here?

FIELDS: Yes, in the U.S., since 2011. And have invested over $10 billion in to our facilities here. So not only have remade investments in facilities and made our plants more productive, we have also been able to hire more people. And even in the next four years we have said we are going to invest another $9 billion in our facilities. And our intent is to either retain or add another 8500 jobs.

HARLOW: HP enterprise CEO, Meg Whitman, recently said about Trump's proposal to put a 35 percent tariff on all goods imported to this country from China and Mexico, she said it will sink this country into a recession. Is she right?

FIELDS: Well, I don't know whether she is right or wrong. What I do know --

HARLOW: Well, 35 percent.

FIELDS: Well, listen. There is free trade agreements. For example, I think he has pointed to I think the NAFTA agreement. Well, the NAFTA agreement, that is law. That is a free trade. So, of course, as a company we are always going to abide by the law. But if you do start putting excessive import -- duties on to imports, clearly that is going to have an impact on not only economy, it is going to have impact on consumers.

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HARLOW: My thanks to Mark Fields. You can see a lot more of our interview with him on CNNmoney.com.

And coming up next hour on this show, our exclusive one on one with CEO of Starbucks, Howard Schultz. Why he says Americans are embracing fool's gold on this campaign. He is calling on Washington to do a whole lot better. That's ahead.

Coming up next, though, an uplifting story amid all of the doom and gloom. An uplifting story this Easter Sunday. We are going to introduce you to coach a yellow lab that is helping protect the life of a teenage girl with type 1 diabetes. Stay with us.

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[17:45:12] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Coach is with me 24/7. Sometimes we take breaks from each other. Because we're with each other for so long. Sometimes we're sort of like an old married couple.

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[17:49:08] HARLOW: Now to an uplifting story this Easter Sunday. We want you to meet a really amazing canine. His name is Coach and he is a dog that just astonished us protecting the life of a teenage girl with type 1 diabetes every single day.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You want it play fetch? Is that what you want to do? Do you want to?

HARLOW: She spends a lot of time-out here with Coach?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. With coach.

HARLOW: An unlikely pairing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Heel. HARLOW: From prison to helping those struggling with diabetes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Probably the biggest, I don't know, fulfillment for us is to know these dogs will have a purpose.

HARLOW: Is there anywhere that you go that coach doesn't go?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, coach is with me 24/7. Sometimes we take breaks from each other. Because we're with each other for so long. Sometimes we're sort of like an old married couple.

[17:50:05] HARLOW: 16-year-old Ellie (INAUDIBLE) has lived with type 1 diabetes for more than half her life making every day more challenging than most of us can know.

Do you remember the day Ellie when you had that seizure?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember walking down the stairs and feeling a little dizzy. The next thing I remember was waking up in the hospital.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was the worst day for me. I was so painfully aware that we can do everything right and still bad things can happen. The reality is her life is at risk every day because too little insulin can kill her, and too much insulin can kill her. We tried everything, you know. We had been in clinical trials. She is one of the first kids to test the bionic pancreas that (INAUDIBLE) in hospital. She has been on list pump. She has try to continues (INAUDIBLE) monitor.

HARLOW: Her day is filled with the abnormal eight to ten blood sugar tests and injections each day. As a teen, constantly wearing that glucose monitor was difficult and uncomfortable. And then three years ago, a yellow lab came into her life.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was just cynical that a dog could do for her what technology has not been able to.

HARLOW: Coach is a diabetes alert dog, trained for some 2,000 hours to use his keen sense of smell to detect blood sugar levels in people living with diabetes.

How do you know something is wrong?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He will get my attention any way possible. And if I'm not paying attention, he will try to get my mom's attention or really any other adult.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It took me a long time to trust him honestly. And I remember talking to the trainer and she kept saying trust the dog, trust the dog and I thought, are you crazy? This is something I have been doing five years, waking up in the middle of the night to test her blood sugar, watching her like a hawk, and trying to do everything I can to keep her healthy. How is a the dog going to be able to do this?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In each of my classes, there is a specific place that I put him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To have him there as a companion but also as dog monitor, it's like a human monitor. And I think it's great because it just, you know, adds the humanity back into the dealing with the disease.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think what is incredible is how much it freed up her life having him be part of it.

HARLOW: Has coach become kind of like a secondary school mascot?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, definitely part of the school. There is no question about that.

HARLOW: Ellie still often wears her glucose monitor, but now she feels comfortable without it at times putting trust in coach.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She takes, you know, eight to ten shots of insulin a day.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is something wrong?

HARLOW: That is coach alerting Ellie of high blood sugar. Because he is wagging his tail and he is like looking at you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is something wrong? And he is also looking at me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good boy, good boy.

HARLOW: Was he right?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, it is crazy and a little strange to think that a dog can do that, but it's incredible.

HARLOW: How long did it take you to trust coach?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: From really the moment that I first met him. It was sort of an immediate bond and then immediate trust. Like my mom, I was skeptical at first. But once he alerted me and just seeing him for the first time after waiting so long, it was a huge relief.

HARLOW: The Jocelyn diabetes center says dogs like coach may be a component of the care for those living with type 1 diabetes, but knows their use is very unusual.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was entirely convince this was sort of desperate attempt to try to make things better. And what I often say is even if he is only right 30 percent of the time, which he is not, he is right most of the time, but he is making her more aware and more mindful and it's not me saying when did you last test your blood sugar? What is your blood sugar today? When did you take insulin? And it allows us to be a mother and daughter and not me be her nurse who is nagging her and driving her crazy.

HARLOW: Through care, the canine assistance rehabilitation, education, and services program. Coach and nearly 1300 alert dogs have been trained at prisons across the country and placed in 41 states. Inmates teach them everything from socialization to obedience.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She is a great dog, very affectionate and very social. She is a great dog.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The inmates get them used to regimented days and all the basic commands, and get them very focused on the training they need in order to then become diabetes alert dogs. So then they go back to care for advanced training that use scent detection to get them to recognize high and low blood sugars.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This has a lot to do with what the correction process is all about. Giving us an opportunity to change, you know, the behaviors and patterns of the past, and do something good not just for ourselves, but for actually somebody else.

[17:55:04] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It does me a lot of good to see the progress she is had made. Best rewarding in itself.

HARLOW: Families and patients often pay in the tens of thousands of dollars for these dogs, but through CARES, the (INAUDIBLE) say they were able to purchase coach for $2500.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember when he first got him and when he first started working, saying that it was the first time that diabetes gave back to the family. Because it had been such a burden on not just me but my entire family for such a long time.

HARLOW: Ellie and her mother, Stephanie, wrote this book together, telling the story of their journey and the change coach has brought to their lives.

What do you have to say to the prisoners who trained him?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. My God. We got to go in to the prison and I got to meet the trainers that or one of them that trained coach, one - he was there. And that was amazing. Without that, he would not be as good as he is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all have the opportunity to read that book, Ellie and coach, and that was life changing for me because it brought the aspect that these dogs have a lot greater purpose.

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HARLOW: There is still no cure for type 1 diabetes, but increasingly the experimental options are becoming available. Just like you saw, dogs like coach, pretty amazing, can help keep managing type 1 diabetes a little more manageable.

Our thanks to Ellie and (INAUDIBLE).

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