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[08:00:16] IVAN WATSON, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Ivan Watson in Hong Kong. Welcome to News Stream.
Police target the company building this overpass in India that collapsed. We have a live report from Kolkata with details.
Over a hundred thousand people paid to reserved to this car before they didn't even seen it. We'll look at the massive demand for Tesla's new Model
3.
And the leaders of U.S. and China meet in Washington dispute over the South China Sea where high on the agenda.
The construction company building the bridge in Kolkata, India that collapsed now faces criminal charges at lease 24 people died when a section
of the over the pass came crushing to the street below. More than 24 hours later search and rescue efforts there are winding down.
Joining me from the scene of that disaster in Kolkata is CNN's Sumnima Udas. Thank you for joining us there. You're right there in the thick of
things Sumnima. Just 24 hours after the disaster took place, already the construction company facing charges of attempted murder. Have we heard any
explanation for how this happened either from the company of from the government?
SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right Ivan. And according to local reports some of those officials from that construction company have also
been detained. But we have not been able to confirm that are solve at the moment. We have not been able to get in touch with the company there.
In fact unreachable at the moment but the police have thought (ph) and official charge the against this company charges of culpable homicide,
which include attempt to murder and that because they say this flyover over here.
Well, what used to a two kilometer long flyover. And what you see over here is empty space because a hundred meter long roughly 100 meter long chuck
just came crushing down. This has been on the construction for the past five to seven years at least. This should not have taken so long.
And a local government had been pressuring this company to get ahead with it and to inaugurate this flyover for quite sometime. It appears according
to locals here there were putting in some flag in this area complete just the morning before this flyover just collapse.
Again, we don't know exactly, you know, what the cause of it is, but a lot of people here blaming it right now on solid (ph) construction and faulty
engineering. Ivan.
WATSON: Sumnima, I understand let say a densely populated area, very, very congested as well. One of the worst places you could have it manmade
disaster like this taking place. What are the people there telling you about this?
UDAS: To be honest a lot of people here are still in the state of shock. It's been, you know, complete scene of chaos here until this morning. There
was pile and piles of concrete and rubbles. The people are still trying to make sense of what's happened. But people are starting to question as well
as to who is responsible for what's happened here.
Now we've been talking to families as well, a family who lost their love ones a family -- two sons in fact who lost their father and mother. They
were just in this exact area where I'm standing in one of the handheld wretches (ph) trying to get to a hospital nearby when that overpass came
crushing down. We spoke to the son and he -- here's what he have to say.
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ABHISKEK KANIO, SON OF VICTIM: Condition was very bad. There were not any person to see and (inaudible) who protecting this. The reason (inaudible)
was want -- but the food take action something on deck that something should not happen included from -- for any of their families. Such kind of
this happened with me. Just have a place to go (inaudible) please take action incident so that no further -- this kind of accident happened.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
UDAS: . stay to talk that much. But saying that hope is this something like this never happens again. But a lot of people here say sadly a something
like this can happen again given India's record in terms of infrastructure develop. Ivan.
[08:05:05] WATSON: Let's hope the authorities there start to adopt perhaps some new procedures to prevent a repeat of this terrible accident. All
right Sumnima Udas live there from the scene of the bridge collapse in Kolkata. Thank you very much for your update Sumnima.
For more in-depth coverage, head to CNN.com that's where you'll find Ravi Agrawal first person report from Kolkata. He's our bureau chief in New
Delhi. And he describes what it's like to return to the city that is so different from the one he knew as a child. It's word of read.
All right, let's take a look now at news in Europe. A Belgian court has ruled that Paris terror attack suspect Salah Abdeslam can be extradited to
France. It's not yet known when the transfer will happen. Abdelslam became the most wanted in Europe after the November attacks that killed 130
people.
People captured him two weeks ago in Belgium after a shootout. Abdeslam is also suspected of having role in this months terror attacks in the Belgian
capital, despite being in custody at the time.
So we're going to go straight to Brussels that's where CNN's Alexandra Field is standing by. What more can you tell us about this extradition.
Again, of man who was the most wanted man in Europe.
ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we can certainly doesn't come as surprise but French authorities him back and now we're going to get him
back. He's been held here on the European arrest warrant. The transfer will happen at you lay out we're just not sure when.
What's interesting though is that after he was taken into custody, he was cooperating with investigators we're told. He was talking. That ended
however, after the Brussels bombing and at that point he decided that he would willingly be extradited to France. He had previously tried to fight
extradition according to his attorneys.
So there's a lot of information that authorities are still hoping to get from him not only about the Paris attacks but also about the attacks in
Brussels. And there's very little that the public actually knows about Salah Abdeslam at this point.
We do know that he was able to sneak his way out of Paris in the hours after the attacks. He was able to cross the boarder heading into Belgium
undetected because police at that point didn't yet know who they were looking for. But ultimately Ivan he is bound in Molenbeek, this
neighborhood in Brussels that was quite familiar to him. The question now is how long was able to hide out there without being flag for authorities.
WATSON: You know, I've been to that neighborhood. It's not very far where you standing right now. Are going to get sense of what the reaction is to
Salah Abdeslam his upcoming extradition. Are there people who perhaps sympathize with him in neighborhoods like that where he was effectively
hiding out until he was captured after that shoot out.
FIELD: That idea of sympathy is the problem that you hear address the police by local officials in my federal officials all the time. You know,
in the aftermath of the Paris attacks. When we got to spend a little bit of time in that Molenbeek neighborhood, people seem very reluctant to speak to
members of media and certainty on Camera, they were very reluctant to contact authorities.
And this was at the time where there were sweeping raids in that community and he has authorities tried to track down anyone who could have been
connected to that Paris attack.
So, whether or not you're talking distinctly about people in that community and others that may actually support Salah Abdeslam. There is certainly a
more pervasive problem here where you have people who are not willing to go forward stick their neck out, contact authorities if they suspect that
someone is hiding out in their myths.
And frankly he seemed been hiding out at this point close in plain site. He was in Molenbeek. There was a similar situation in Paris where one of the
ring leaders was also found in a Paris apartment. People had not reported that he was there. And we now know that the Laachraoui brothers who
investigator says responsible for the attack at the metro and the airport were also in Brussels prior to that attack even though authorities looking
for him internationally, Ivan.
WATSON: I can only just begin to imagine what the security will be like when they transfer Salah Abdeslam from Belgium across the boarder to
France.
All right, Alexandra Field. Thank you very much for that update live from Brussels.
Now let's move to the U.S. now where there some news involving Turkey on the sidelines of a nuclear summit underway in Washington. U.S. President
Barack Obama promised Turkish President Recep Tayyipo Erdogan, that America would help keep it's NATO allied Turkey secure. But elsewhere in Washington
there was very polarized view of unclear (ph).
This was the scene where the Turkish president was delivering a speech a think tank. The Brooking Institution Mr. Erdogan entourage was mounts by a
small group of protesters scuffles broke out between the president security guard and protesters.
[08:10:01] Caught in the chaos journalist covering the event, one was physically removed by Turkish security. Another claimed who have been
kicked by Turkish bodyguards
One ongoing criticism of Mr. Erdogan is his track record on press freedom. Let's turn now to the U.S. race for the White House. Donald Trump says he's
ready to bring his party together following talks with Republican leaders. But otherwise we aren't hearing very much from Trump following his latest
controversial comments.
CNN's Field Phil Mattingly is live in Hershey, Pennsylvania with the latest development. Good to see you Phil.
Trump, is he right now making piece with the Republican national community?
PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He is trying Ivan. And for good reason right now you have to look at this kind of through two pathways. The first
is, Donald Trump needs to figure out to get the requisite -- how to get the requisite delegates to secure the nomination.
Now there is 2,000 plus delegates in play. You need 1,237 to actually secure the nomination. Donald Trump is very aware of the fact that Ted Cruz
is operating behind the scenes to try undercut those efforts right now. So that was a primary reason he had that close door meeting with the
Republican National Committee yesterday.
But the other reason is should Donald Trump secure that nomination. He's going to have to go in a general election with the support of the
Republican Party. A Republican party on the establishment side, that is very uneasy about Donald Trumps features. Now Donald Trump calling for
unity.
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MATTINGLY: Donald Trump now trying to make nice with party leaders a mid fallout from yet another political firestorm. The Republican frontrunner in
Washington for a meeting with the chairman of the Republican National Committee Reince Priebus.
Behind close doors sources say discussion focused on delegate rules ahead of the convention. Just days after Trump and the other GOP hopefuls backout
of their pledge to support the nominee.
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: A very good meeting. We met with Reince Priebus and the staff and they're very good people, very -- actually
a terrific meeting, I think. And it's really a unity meeting.
MATTINGLY: Trump also huddling with foreign policy advisors at the site of his new hotel for a two hour private meeting. And his comments on nuclear
proliferation continued to rile American allies.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: But if you said, Japan, yes, it's fine, you get nuclear weapons, South Korea, you as well, and Saudi Arabia says we
want them, too?
TRUMP: Can I be honest with you? It's going to happen, anyway.
MATTINGLY: Trumps camp uncharacteristically quite Thursday. One day after his abortion comment with the New York billionaires campaign on defensive.
CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNCB: Do you believe in punishment for abortion. Yes or no. It's a principle.
TRUMP: The answer is that it has to be some formal punishment.
MATTHEW: For the women.
TRUMP: Yeah, it has to be some form.
MATTHEWS: His rivals seizing on the controversy claiming forcefully he's not qualified for the Oval Office.
JOHN KASICH, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I have to tell you that as commander-in-chief and leader of the free world. You don't get do-
overs.
MATTINGLY: Ohio Governor John Kasich unleashing appointed n specific attack on the front runner.
KASICH: The abortion controversy using nukes in the Middle East and in Europe. Get rid of the Geneva Convention, getting rid of NATO and having a
Supreme Court justice who's going to investigate Hillary's e-mails. I don't even know what's he's talking about there.
MATTINGLY: Ted Cruz sending out his wide Heidi in top surrogate former presidential candidate Carly Fiorina, attempting to underscore Trumps
continue difficulty with women voters.
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MATTINGLY: Now Ivan, all of this is coming just a few days before the ever important Wisconsin primary. Donald Trump trailing now in consecutive polls
by double digits to Ted Cruz, he will head back there this weekend to really try and earnest to makeup some ground. But then you have to focus
here in Pennsylvania where I am today.
Ted Cruz will be here. John Kasich will be here. And Ivan, sources with John Kasich's campaign said what we saw yesterday his attacks on Donald
Trump which really haven't happened over the course of this campaign over the course of this campaign are just the start. Expect him to go after
Donald Trump in earnest for the next coupe of weeks, really a shift and the tone of this campaign. Ivan.
WATSON: Let's take a look at the Democratic race now, Phil. The next major contest will be taken place in New York. Does Bernie Sanders really think
he stands a chance in that state against the former senator from New York Hillary Clinton?
MATTINGLY: It's almost amazing that we'd even be having the discussion about this, right Ivan. So Wisconsin comes on Tuesday and then really all
eyes on New York. Bernie Sanders is in New York today and that's because his campaign seems phase to grow. Just a few months ago Hillary Clinton was
up by 30, 40, 50 points in that state. The state she represented as U.S. senator before becoming secretary of state.
Now Bernie Sanders campaign is now confident and his standing in Wisconsin Tuesdays primary. That's where the focus is starting to shift over to New
York. Hillary Clinton's campaign advisor tell me that they feel very good about where they are in New York, still with the double digit lead there.
[08:15:01] But Bernie Sanders thinks they make up ground. And again Ivan, it's all about delegates and both of these races right now. And if Bernie
Sanders can make up ground maybe not make it look like a huge defeat, that means he's pulling delegates and once again, this race that I think a lot
of people never thought would get this far or get to this point continues forward. A bit of long slab one that Hillary Clinton certainly doesn't
appreciate at this point, Ivan.
WATSON: Right. Thanks Phil. And I just notice you're standing there in front of giant Hershey's kisses. You're in Hershey, Pennsylvania, so one of
the bonuses of these assignment lots of chocolate, all right.
Now, if you're a fan of automobile. You want go stick around for this next report. The wait is over for the Tesla. The model 3 Tesla it's known as the
electric for the masses. And we'll have more on the big reveal.
Also ahead, the FBI is keeping quiet about who help crack the San Bernardino killers iPhone. But we'll tell you why all signs are pointing an
Israeli company as the expert third party. Stay with us.
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WATSON: Welcome back to New Stream live from Hong Kong. I'm Ivan Watson.
If you like cars, this is a story for you. Tesla has finally taking the wrap after long awaited Model 3. That's their cheapest car yet aim at the
mass market. But some didn't even need to see the Model 3 Tesla token $115 million in reservations before the unveiling.
[08:20:07] The Model 3 starts at $35,000 with range of almost 350 kilometers. Tesla says the car goes on sale by the end of next year.
The car represents the end of a vision laid out by CEO Elon Musk all the way back in 2006. In a blog post Musk's out loan what he called the master
plan for Tesla. Build a sport car, use that money to build an affordable care and then use that money to build an even more affordable car. The
model 3 shows that Tesla is following the road laid out by Elon Musk 10 years ago.
It's certainly a big day for Tesla, so let's get more on this from CNNMoney correspondent Alison Kosik. She joins us now from New York. Good to see you
Alison.
ALISON KOSIK, CNNMONEY CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.
WATSON: I'm really struck here. You've got people buying many, many, many of these cars without ever laying eyes on it. That sure is (inaudible)
isn't.
KOSIK: Yeah, it really is. I can't imagine going out to buy a car, you know, not see how it feels, not seeing how it looks, not giving it a test
drive. So when you talk about the people who put down a thousand dollars. That 115,000 people putting down a thousand dollars of their hard earn
money on a car that they've never touched, seen or driven. But they did.
And better yet, they waited out in line a day before they got even a glimpse of what kind of car they would be buying. Yes, they waited out at
retail stores, those Tesla retail stores around the world, a day in advance before the big reveal.
Why are they doing this? Because of that price cut. The model as usually goes for anywhere from $70,000 to $140,000. So this model begins at 35,000
it start at. Also there are tax breaks. So obviously this is done happen as much model S.
Tesla is hoping this is the game changer for the company because it's even yet to turn a profit. Although Tesla's stock is certainly skyrocketing,
Wall Street sees Tesla kind of as long-term path profitability. Ivan.
WATSON: Alison, has anybody got a chance to test drive this car? What are the reviewer are saying about it?
KOSIK: OK, so when the big reveal came from Elon Musk last night in California. He did show the car off. And I think we have some pictures of
this big reveal so let's go ahead and see those. I'm going to tell you about some of the specs.
Some of the reviewers did give were did have a chance to go for a ride in it. Elon Musk said they could comfortable see it by people. The reviewers
said, hmm. I see a comfortably sitting more four people.
Let me go through some of these specs as we look at the car. So, one thing it doesn't have those cool falcon wings that the Model X has. So it has
regular doors. It doesn't go as fast but it goes pretty fast. It goes 0 to 60 in less than 60 seconds. I would say that's pretty fast.
It is a lot smaller than the Model S. This one come with a bit of turn up nose at the top of the car. And it has range on one charge of 215 miles.
Couple of odd features that the reviewer said. There's no instrument panel inside the car on the dashboard. Only you'll see these air-conditioner
vents on the inside and there you see a rectangular touch pads screen. That's mounted on the dash as well.
On the exterior of the car, the roof actually it's like one giant piece of glass, it goes from the windshield all the way to the trunk. So kind of
feels like you're driving while looking up at the sky which is kind of cool.
The car speed is actually displayed in the upper left hand side corner of kind of where the interior is so the driver can actually see the speed. And
if you're looking for trunks space Elon Musk says the trunk space for this side car is as good or better than any gasoline powered car out there
because you got trunk space not just from the back Ivan but you got trunk space in the front as well.
So, not sure if the people who put down their $1,000 are happy about what they saw. So surprise you're getting a car. How soon? Well, Tesla saying
you could get it by the end of 2017. But, you know, how that goes when you put money down in a car it could take a little longer some are even saying
it may take until 2018 to get you hands on the car. Ivan.
WATSON: You're not just getting a car you maybe getting the world's longest windshield. That's quite a piece of glass on that vehicle.
KOSIK: If you're sitting in the back it's a nice ride.
WATSON: Alison Kosik live from New York. All right, we'll going to see and I'm sure you'll get the test drive soon enough.
KOSIK: I hope so.
WATSON: Thanks a lot. Alison Kosik live in New York.
Now we're going to move on to another technology story. Apple is telling CNN that it's trying to make iPhones even more secure. But making an
unbreakable phone is impossible. The FBI was able to break in to a terrorist locked iPhone without Apples help. Apple argued that helping the
FBI would weaken security on all iPhones leaving them more vulnerable to hacks or other unauthorized access.
[08:25:10] Apple engineers tell CNN money that their constantly improving security but will never be able to achieve perfect security. Apple now
wants to know how the FBI got into that terrorist iPhone. The FBI says a third party helped, but it has not identified them. Speculation is they
used this company Cellebrite. It's an Israeli firm that has a history with the FBI and police agencies. And Oren Lieberman has more.
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OREN LIEBERMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Four months after the San Bernardino terrorist attack. The iPhone 5C one of the shooters remained a critical but
inaccessible piece of evidence. An ugly legal battle between the FBI and Apple suddenly ended when the FBI found a different way to get into the
iPhone. An Israeli newspaper citing industry sources said the company that did the work was called Cellebrite.
Cellebrite offices are here behind me in this high tech bar just outside of Tel Aviv. Now that the FBI nor Cellebrite will comment on the companies
involvement, with Cellebrite specialized in mobile device data extraction and decryption, phone hacking and that's exactly what the FBI needed in
this case.
We reach out to Cellebrite and the FBI repeatedly Cellebrite didn't return our calls and the FBI wouldn't comment about the company. The FBI has said
only that they used "Outside company." But the FBI signed a $200,000 contract with Cellebrite the same day the FBI announced it gain access to
the content in a shooters phone.
Shares of Cellebrite parent company. At a tech conference in 2014 Cellebrite forensic technical director Yuval Ben-Moshe told CNN about their
work.
YUVAL BEN-MOSHE, CALLEBRITE: We allow a law enforcement a very deep detailed access to a lot of information that is on the mobile device and
then it allows them to dig up who did what, when which is the essence of any investigation when you look at it.
LIEBERMAN: Cellebrite technology isn't just a hack on iPhone. Critic say it's a hack on privacy. Ben-Moshe says he's company has been challenged in
court.
BEN MOSHE: We got to make sure that whatever you bring into court can stand their and can stand any cross examination. There are very, very straight
rule and guidelines with most of the countries. And we meet those. We meet those to the best of our knowledge.
LIEBERMAN: To learn more about mobile device security. We meet Michael Shaulov. He is mobile technology expert at Checkpoint when Israeli cyber
security firm.
One of weak point of an iPhone or any other mobile device that you could access the phone through.
MICHAEL SAULOV, CHECK POINT: When you connect the cable to the phone then you abuse all kind of funicles (ph) of the iPhone can communicate with the
laptops and then using -- by hijacking or by manipulating those particles you can actually unlock the phones.
LIEBERMAN: If I give you my iPhone. If I handed to you, how long it would take you to hack this iPhone?
SAULOV: It would probably take me faster to hack your phone when it's actually in your hands rather than you give me the phone. It's much easier
to conduct the social engineering at that basic if I send you something that you will click on and you will install something on you phone rather
than I will try to actually guess or break you pass code.
LIEBERMAN: This is the flip side of the star up nation. Innovation used to build security now use to exploit vulnerabilities.
Is Cellebrite the company behind the U.S. government iPhone hacked? It will say. But notably the company that sign the FBI contract and was enthusiasm
rerouting (ph) it's technology not long ago has not gone silent.
Oren Liebrman, CNN, Tel Aviv.
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WATSON: OK, it's April 1st now and that means for some its April fools. But get this. Google had to pull their April fools Gmail prank after it back
fired. They release a new mic drop function is this orange button right here. And this is what it does when you press it. Gmail replies all with
the gift of minion dropping a microphone then blocks all e-mail from that e-mail chain letting you make a grand exit.
Only the button caused a few e-mail mishaps. Some users complained that the regular send button send the gift as well. And one man, he lost a job
interview because of his missed click. Google has apologized for the prank so be careful.
And coming up now, tension in the South China Sea are rising. We'll get some perspective on U.S.-China relation and what some are calling a Cold
War at sea. Stay with CNN.
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[08:32:10] IVAN WATSON, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back. I'm Ivan Watson in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.
An Indian construction company is now facing criminal charges in the deadly bridge collapse in Kolkata. Police say those charges include attempted
murder. And we've just learned 12 people from that company had been detained and are being questioned by police. At least 24 people were killed
when the overpass came crushing down.
It's not clear when Salah Abdeslam will be transferred to France. A Belgium court has ruled the Paris terror attack suspect can be extradited. Abdeslam
became the most wanted man in Europe after the November attacks killed 130 people.
He's also suspected of playing some part in last week's Brussels bombings.
Tesla has finally unveiled its cheapest car yet. The Model 3 starts at $35,000. Fans lined up at Tesla dealerships to order one. Tesla says, a
115,000 people pay to reserve the car in the hours before the unveiling.
In just a few hours, U.S. President Barack Obama is to take up nuclear talks with leaders from more than 50 countries. It's the final day of the
summit, aimed at insuring the world's nuclear weapons are secured.
On new agenda, a session on how to prevent terror groups, like ISIS from obtaining chemical or radiological weapons. At those talks underway in
Washington, U.S. President Barack Obama and China's Xi Jinping promised greater collaboration on nuclear security especially when it comes to North
Korea. But one issue that remains a sour point between the pair, Beijing's claims over territory in the South China Sea.
Out of his bilateral chat with Mr. Obama, the Chinese president said that "China resolutely protects its sovereignty over the South China Sea. And
that it "uses direct negotiations to peacefully resolve disputes with countries involved."
Last month I was given exclusive access to the U.S. aircraft carrier John C. Stennis. And there I spoke with the U.S. Navy admiral whose aircraft
carrier strike group had just been conducting so called freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea.
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RON BOXALL, REAR ADMIRAL, U.S. NAVY: Just being there in the South China Sea shows that, you know, we believe we have the right to operate in
international waters. All ships not just military vessels but civilian vessels. Anyone can operate there.
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WATSON: The admiral told me his carrier group was frequently monitored by Chinese Navy warships while in the South China Sea.
Let's get more now on how the Chinese and U.S. Navies are interacting on the South China Sea. And to help explain that, I'm joined by David Winkler,
a historian for the Washington based Naval Historical Foundation, thank you for joining us.
[08:35:05] DAVID WINKLER, PROGRAM DIRECTOR, NAVAL HISTORICAL FOUNDATION: Good evening.
WATSON: And I guess my first question, I mean you studied Navies at war at peace. How would describe the interactions right now between the U.S. and
Chinese Navies who sometimes look like they're almost shadow boxing while following each other around the South China Sea.
WINKLER: Well they certainly are shadow boxing and following each other in the South China Sea. But give us some historical perspective. Well this is
what navies do.
So I'm not, you know, really overly concerned about each navy following each other. We've seen this throughout history. You know, the thing which
the two governments have an agreement in place kind of modeled on the U.S. soviet instance at sea agreement that was signed in 1972. That really, you
know, monitors and controls the behaviors of the officers under respective warships.
You know, to give some historical perspective back in the early Cold War in 1960s and 70s. The -- it was Cowboys and Cossacks on the high seas between
the Russians and United States. We had ships pointing guns at each other, flying over each other with bomb base open. We had laser incidents,
flashlight, low over head buzzings. We had actually shouldering incidents whether its coalitions.
And there's finally in November 1970 after a Russian destroyer was hit by the British aircraft carrier Ark Royal that, you know, the Russians said we
need to do safety at sea thoughts. And that resulted in the incidents at sea agreement.
And that really putting some behavior controls at, you know, having copied really starting in 1998 with the maritime -- military maritime consultant
agreements between United States and China.
And as -- and which has been kind of affirmed more recently with an agreement that was signed between the Ministry of Defense and Department of
Defense back in November of 2014. You know, basically, you know, putting those in places as far as how each side should behave.
So in contrast in Cold War which we see today is far, far less, you know, violent or (inaudible) that we saw in the Cold War.
WATSON: Well, that's good to hear. And you're certainly an expert on that having written a book about the soviet and U.S. navies during the Cold War.
Let me ask this, I mean after World War II, the U.S. was the preeminent naval power in the Pacific Ocean, is China now challenging that?
WINKLER: Well China is growing as a -- economically, has a -- and it's growing its maritime nation, you know, they have extensive merchant marine.
Certainly, you know, China has a right, you know, a requirements for a navy that, you know, will protect its interest throughout the world through its
shipping lanes, its -- and connately as potential for example opportunities work with the United States Navy in several ways such as humanitarian
assistance.
So the fact that you have a country in the size of China that has a, you know, its commercial needs. You know, those needs have been protect, you
know, through a, you know, the People Liberation Army Navy.
WATSON: All right. And perhaps that a change from the historical examples you've given is China's ambitious land reclamation project building entire
islands as part of its policy of laying claim to large pieces of maritime territory.
Dr. David Winkler, thank you very much for joining us to help explain rather some of the historical context here.
And worth noting that Dr. Winkler was talking about commerce here because there is some important economic news coming up, the key U.S. jobs report
for March has just been released.
The U.S. economy added 215,000 jobs in March. And that's better than expected. Economist surveyed by CNN Money expected a rise of a 199,000
jobs.
The unemployment rate tick up slightly to 5 percent.
We'll have much more on the jobs report on CNN Money has just in about 20 minutes from now.
[08:39:36] And Zaha Hadid, she conquered space the kind that we lived in. Up next, the life and legacy of the first woman to win the Pritzker prize
architectures novel.
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WATSON: We want to take a moment to honor the life of one of the most innovative modern architects. Iraqi Architect Zaha Hadid has died at the
age of 65. She is known for her unconventional designs earning for the nickname the Queen of the Curve.
Her buildings can be seen in skylines across the globe, Rome's MAXXI museum is among her most well-known designs along with London's aquatic center
that was built for the 2012 Olympic Games.
And that is News Stream. I'm Ivan Watson. Have a wonderful weekend. But don't go anywhere World Sport with Rhiannon Jones is next.
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