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[11:00:08] MALLIKA KAPUR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A night of celebration gave way to a day of tragedy.
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BECKY ANDEROSN, HOST: A festival at a Hindu temple in Southern India goes terribly wrong. The latest from our team in India, up next.
Also ahead, Saudi Arabia and Egypt announce plans to build a bridge over the Red Sea. What connecting the countries means for the region. That's
also coming up tonight.
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JORDAN SPEITH, GOLFER: You're almost starting almost another tournament, and you can
feel the difference in momentum.
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ANDERSON: Well, it's Sunday at The Masters, so who will win the green jacket? We'll get a check of the leaderboard for you a little later this
We begin in Southern India, where people are demanding answers after a fireworks display at a Hindu temple erupted into a deadly fire. At least
105 people are now confirmed dead, hundreds more are being treated for burns and other injuries.
I want to start with our Mallika Kapur, who will take you through exactly what happened.
KAPUR: A night of celebration gave way to a day of tragedy.
This is what remains of a temple in the town of Kullum in south India after several buildings in
the sacred complex were engulfed in massive flames overnight and others crumbled to pieces.
Officials say fireworks stored in the temple complex caught fire after sparks fell on them. More than 100 people are dead, some bodies charred
Hundreds are injured. Ambulances rushed them to hospitals where they're being treated for severe burns, broken bones and asphyxia.
Prime Minister Modi reacted quickly, expressing grief, ordering helicopters to airlift those critically injured and going to the scene of the tragedy
himself, taking along a team of doctors, including burn specialists.
He's announced a compensation package, $3,000 for next of kin, $750 for those injured. Many locals say that's not enough. What they want are
answers. What went wrong? Where were the safety measures that could have prevented a night of devotion from turning into a deadly tragedy at dawn?
Mallika Kapur, CNN, Mumbai.
ANDERSON; Well, from Mumbai, we turn to the Indian capital. CNN's Sumnima Udas is live for us with in New Delhi.
Sumnima, witnesses described a scene of complete chaos. We know what happened and why
now as the relatives begin the horrible process of identification, who is being held responsible?
SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's been about 18 hours since that temple complex caught fire, Becky, and the frantic search-
and-rescue operation is currently under way. The fire brigade, the police, doctors, nurses, the navy, the air force as well, they've all been deployed
with naval ships, with helicopters full of medical supplies.
What happened is this: every year there is this annual celebration leading up to the new year's in southern India where this is, you know, a
magnificent display of fireworks. And what's been happening of late is there's a bit of a competition between locals as to who can produce the
better, more spectacular firework display. And when this competition was taking place around 3:30 in the morning, that's when some of the sparks,
some of the devices actually landed on a warehouse full of fireworks, and that's what caused a series of explosions, which caused buildings nearby to
explode as well.
Eyewitnesses say there was planks, huge slabs of concrete all over the place. Some of it landed even a kilometer from where this incident took
So, that has been the biggest challenge for rescue workers right now, trying to dig through that rubble, trying to dig through that debris.
They're using heavy machinery to do that just in case there's more survivors underneath that rubble.
Unfortunately, the death toll right now is 105, more than 300 people have been injured, many of them, about 100 of them, in a serious condition as
ANDERSON: Sumnima is in New Delhi for you on the story. Sumnima, thank you.
Well, to Belgium now, where prosecutors have new insight into the plans of the men they believe carried out last month's terror attacks in Brussels.
Now, prosecutors have arrested and charged the suspect known as the man in the hat. Mohamed Abrini was also wanted in the terror attacks in Paris
And investigators now say the suspects had planned more attacks in France, but the pressure of the investigation appears to have forced them to strike
closer to home.
Well, CNN's Kellie Morgan has the very latest for us now live from Brussels.
Kellie, is he talking to authorities at this point?
[11:05:33] KELLIE MORGAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, it appears so, because we've had quite a bit more detail in the two days since
Mohamed Abrini was arrested.
Right behind me here in this district of Anderlecht, where he has confessed, so police say, to
being the man in the hat, as you say. He has told them that he dumped his distinctive white jacket in
a bin in a three-kilometer stretch between the airport and his next destination, where we saw him without that jacket on. And he's also said
that he sold the hat that he was wearing.
And then again, we had yesterday we had a raid in (inaudible) where police thought that
that residence, that property that they raided was a safe house that was used by the bombers in the metro attack.
And of course, we also now know that one of the bombers in that attack was the man identified as Osama Krayem who was arrested on Friday as well in
So, they appear to be cooperating, but how much can we believe them? The question is, is Abrini protecting someone else? Is there still a plot here
that has not unfolded? It's difficult to know whether or not to believe him. And even if we do believe him, well, this is a man who survived the
Brussels attack, so, too Krayem. Would they in somehow -- did they have to survive to then go on and help carry out another plot, Beck. So, it's
quite disturbing, but it's great that he may be cooperating, but do we believe him, big question.
Clearly, Kellie, a huge development for Belgian authorities.
Just let's provide some context for our viewers here. How is Abrini alleged to be connected to the Paris attacks back in November? And what of
possible plans for further attacks in France that might have been thwarted, given that this investigation was sort of closing
in, it seems, on these suspects?
MORGAN: Yes, well, that's what we've been hearing today, reports here in Belgium that, actually, Brussels was not the initial attack target,
actually, it was Paris, the business district and also a Catholic association in Paris. And that will be distressing for Parisians
to hear, that again, they were the target, and it was only because the investigation, police were closing in on these Belgian suspects, that they
decided to fast forward and actually carry out the attack here in Brussels.
So, yes, Becky, that's the latest information we have here, But yes, the links between Brussels and Paris really starting to consolidate now.
Abrini was connected to those November attacks in Paris through Salah Abdeslam, a man that -- the Paris terror suspect who was also
in Belgian custody. They grew up together a short distance from here in Molenbeek. They were seen traveling to Paris just days before the November
And as for his connection to the Brussels attacks, well, police say that his DNA was found in
the Scarbeek (ph) apartment that was used by the Brussels attackers to make their bombs.
So, it's a convoluted web, but it is one that police are working to disentangle, Becky.
ANDERSON: Kellie Morgan on the story for you out of Brussels this evening. Kellie, thank you.
I want to get you up to speed now on some of the other stories on our radar right now. The Ukrainian prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk is stepping down
with his resignation going to parliament. On Tuesday, Yatsenyuk blames the country's political crisis for his decision. It comes just two months
after he survived a no-confidence vote by his government.
Britain's Prince William and his wife, Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge, have begun their
first trip in India by paying their respects to the victims of the 2008 Mumbai attacks. They laid a wreath at the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel, which
was one of several places that were targeted. Militants killed 164 people in those attacks.
Well, thousands of pro-choice activists turned out in Poland to protest a proposal to outlaw abortion. Poland already has one of Europe's strictest
abortion laws, and leaders of the Conservative Party and the prime minister are supporting a call by Catholic bishops for a full ban.
Well, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is now in Japan for a two-day meeting with G7 foreign
ministers. On their agenda, nuclear and maritime issues as well as conflicts in Ukraine and in the
Later, Secretary Kerry is set to visit a memorial in Hiroshima for those killed when the U.S.
dropped a nuclear bomb in 1945. His trip to Japan follows unannounced visits is now in japan for a
two-day meeting with G7 foreign ministers.
His trip to Japan follows unannounced visits to Afghanistan and to Iraq. In Kabul, he met with Afghan officials to discuss political infighting.
Within an hour of his departure, the Taliban launched strikes in the capital. The Taliban say Kerry was the intended target.
And in Iraq, the country facing its own political crisis. The U.S. secretary of state met with
the Prime Minister, Haider al Abadi in efforts to underscore the strong U.S. support for the Iraqi government.
Well, beyond politics, the U.S. playing a vital role in the fight against ISIS there. Arwa Damon has more on the American operation in Iraq.
ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The aim is to cut ISIS resupply and escape routes as the Iraqi army attempts to advance.
All along the terrain to the front lines, entirely flattened villages from battles past when the Kurdish Peshmerga moved to stop the ISIS onslaught
after the Iraqi army fled.
The 15th division of retrained and restructured, is the first unit back since then. In this operation, trying to move on a village just past the
Peshmerga's defensive berm. Coalition air strikes and artillery pound ISIS targets relentlessly.
We're still hearing the fighter jets overhead. And a few hours ago, we were in the joint operations center watching the U.S. drone feed. There
was a berm very similar to this one. The ISIS militants were lined up against it firing on the Iraqi army as they were attempting to advance.
And then there was an air strike. The entire room erupted in cheers. And it was such testimony to just how vital coalition air support is when it
comes to altering the dynamics of the battlefield.
The Iraqis come up with the plan. The Americans offer advice and integrate their capabilities, of which the Iraqis naturally want more.
COL. SCOTT NAUMANN, U.S. ARMY: I think they're seeing success, and success breeds success.
DAMON: Colonel Scott Naumann, who refers to ISIS by its Arabic acronym DAESH, and his unit with the 10th division mountain division, are partnered
with the Iraqi Nineveh command.
NAUMANN: And as we put more pressure on the enemy up here, the DAESH fighters are starting to surge in this area in particular because they feel
the pressure towards Mosul. And they know that, particularly in this area, if they lose this, it's only a matter of
time, because the momentum really is on the Iraqi security forces' side.
DAMON: That momentum, albeit shaky, is driven and sustained by the power America brings.
While not right on the front lines, the U.S. presence has steadily been growing and invariably putting troops in the line of fire.
A marine was already killed on a newly established artillery base, which we are not allowed
America and Iraq's fates are to a certain degree inextricably intertwined on this complex battlefield. But even with the current levels of U.S.
support, success is neither quick nor guaranteed and operations can still end in failure.
Hours after we were told that only remnants of the ISIS fighters remained in this village, the Iraqis partially retreated in a moment of battlefield
confusion and are now holding defensive positions until more reinforcements can arrive.
Arwa Damon, CNN, al Nusser (ph), Iraq.
ANDERSON: Well, before Arwa's report, we told you about John Kerry's effort to ease political wrangling in Iraq. We want, though, to bring you
something that you may not know about the top diplomat. John Kerry now the most traveled U.S. secretary of state ever. On Wednesday, he surpassed the
mileage of Condoleezza Rice. She held the record at 1,059,000 miles. That's more than 1.7 million kilometers, that is like going to the moon and
back almost five times, and it took him roughly 96 days to do it.
Still to come tonight, al Qaeda says it's responsible for the brutal killing of a blogger in Bangladesh. But a minister there points the finger
at someone else.
Plus, Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders swap insults on the U.S. campaign trail. We'll have their latest comments for you after this short
[11:17:05] ANDERSON: Welcome back. You're watching CNN and Connect the World with me Becky Anderson. It's 16 minutes past 7:00 in the UAE.
Now, the Bangladeshi home minister is now refuting an al Qaeda claim that it was behind
the latest murder of a secular blogger. Nazimuddin Samad (ph) was attacked by a machete-armed gang in Dhaka onWednesday, you may remember, making him
the sixth writer killed there in just over a year.
Well, the home minister says homegrown militants are to blame, and up to three possible
suspects are now being monitored.
Well, joining me now to discuss the dangers posed to secularist writers in Bangladesh is Imran
Sarker, a blogger, activist and spokesperson for Bangladesh's largest secular movement platform. His latest blog entitled "Words in custody but
killers are free," a response to this latest murder.
You are clearly, sir, and understandably, outraged by this awful episode. How concerned are you about your own security? Have you been threatened
IMRAN SARKER, BANGLADESHI BLOGGER: Thank you.
Actually, the security of the condition, you know, is very bad in this time. Actually, our
fellow bloggers, our friends, are targeted killing one by one, and we have lost already six bloggers within 14 months. So, this time, this is almost
not we are secured. And the security condition, though law enforcement is saying this is all right, but this is horrible how they're saying this when
we saw almost every month or every two or three months one of our bloggers being killed.
ANDERSON: Sure. The home minister says he doesn't believe it was al Qaeda. He said this is homegrown militancy.
Your response. Who do you believe is behind this?
SARKER: Actually, that does not matter for us, actually, the people, the common people of this country. When we saw one by one bloggers, activists
are being killed, or the imams or other religious minorities are being killed in the name of religion, and the government is (inaudilbe) enough
not protecting anybody. They're giving this speech and they are just saying, giving a briefing that these killers are not from (inaudible) or
any other thing.
Okay, if this is from homegrown, why? What they are doing and why they are not going after these killers, these extremist groups?
ANDERSON: Okay that same minister who says al Qaeda isn't to blame for Samad's (ph) murder spoke with CNN on Saturday. He said that bloggers and
writers in Bangladesh should show tolerance towards other people's beliefs. Let's just have a listen to
exactly what he said.
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[11:20:01] ASADUZZAMAN KHAN KAMAL, BANGLADESHI STATE HOME MINISTER: The people should be careful not to hurt anyone by writing anything, hurt any
believers, any people who believe, any religion -- any religion, they should not hurt anything by their writing, by exposing their beliefs. This
is our feelings. This is our feelings.
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ANDERSON: That was the Bangladeshi home minister speaking on Saturday with CNN.
Does he have a point?
SARKER: Actually, this is completely inexplicable by a home minister who should loudly speak against the killing, but he's not doing this. But he
is just keeping the victims in custody, but he is not saying any words against killers.
And every time whenever a blogger or any man being killed, they're just trying to cover up
the thing, and that's how they're patronizing the culture of impunity, and we are suffering by that day by day.
We're feeling in danger every day they're (inaudible) openly, especially the groups, the militant groups especially they're patronized by his
government, and that's why we're threatened openly and their killing by submitted or publishing the (inaudible). You saw 84 published list that
have been published by government and even the militant groups also.
ANDERSON: As you speak, we are -- and I just want our viewers to know what we're looking at. We were looking at some -- or we were -- looking at some
pictures there of a small protest, those protesting the government reaction to this.
So, I guess the question is, should others set up or step up to protect bloggers? Advocates have urged the United States, I know, to grant
temporary visas, for example to Bangladeshi writers in imminent danger from Islamic extremists.
The State Department spokesman said last week that a program known as humanitarian parole is being considered for, and I quote, a select number
of bloggers who continue to be under imminent danger. That is one option that is under consideration.
And PEN America, a freedom of expression group, says dozens of bloggers have sought support or protection from outside organizations, feeling that
their own government was either unwilling or unable to provide protection.
You seem to agree with that, that you seem to be suggesting that the government of Bangladesh isn't willing to provide protection. So, would
you take, for example, humanitarian parole? Would you look to the United States, for example, for some sort of temporary visa to allow you some
Would you take that offer if it were on the table?
SARKER: Okay, thank you (inaudible) especially the groups, those are trying to help us.
But the thing is, you know, this country is after (inaudible) so, this is not the way, if we leave the country and (inaudible) particular country do
So, I think (inaudible) the way they are raising voice for us or -- our government (inaudible) bloggers and to protect freedom of the speech. This
is what I think we should do. But I don't think...
ANDERSON: All right.
SARKER: ...we have to leave the country and that's how we can save the country.
ANDERSON: Really bad line, haven't we now, unfortunately, viewers, but great to have heard the words and analysis of our guest there. And
apologies. Technology sometimes lets us down.
All right, we're moving on.
Get you to the U.S. presidential race now, where the state of New York is on everybody's wish
list. I'm talking about the candidates, of course.
And while Democratic rivals Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton insist they are running positive campaigns, they've been trading subtle insults and
criticisms for weeks.
Here's what they told Jake Tapper on CNN's State of the Union just about an hour or so ago.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: The campaign has obviously gotten a little bit heated between you and Senator Sanders. When I interviewed him, he told me
that the two of you -- that he knows both of you will do everything in your power to make sure that Republicans don't win the White House, no matter
who wins the nomination.
HILLARY CLINTON, FRM. SECRETARY OF STATE: Right.
TAPPER: But he also told me that he has his doubts about what kind of president you might make.
Do you have similar doubts about what kind of president he might make?
CLINTON: Well, look, I have said repeatedly that I would take him over Donald Trump or Ted Cruz any day.
I think people know that I will be a president who will follow through on what I have said.
TAPPER: Back-and-forth with Secretary Clinton about her qualifications, I know you have said that she is qualified.
Bill Clinton today was asked about the comments and said, of course you wouldn't have made the same charges if she were a man.
SANDERS: Oh, my...
TAPPER: And he said: "I think there are some different standards for women. Some of them are subconscious."
SANDERS: Well, I appreciate Bill Clinton being my psychoanalyst. It's always nice.
But the reality is that, ever since Wisconsin, when that became the sixth out of seven states that we have won in either caucuses or primaries, I
think the Clinton campaign has made it public. Basically, they have told the media that, here in New York, they're about to become very negative,
about to beat us up.
And I just want them to understand that, you know, we have tried to run an issue-oriented campaign, but that we are not going to be attacked every
single day. Our record is not going to be distorted. We are going to fight back.
ANDERSON: Well, that was Bernie Sanders proceeded by Hillary Clinton.
Meanwhile, Republicans are stealing themselves for what will likely be a contested or brokered convention. I'm going to get Jeremy Diamond who
joins us now, to really explain what that means, out of New York for us this evening.
Before we talk contested convention, sir, we are in the final push in this process towards knowing who will stand for each party in the November
What are the polls telling us at this point ahead of what is this crucial New York phase?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Yeah, well, Fox News this morning just released a couple of polls in the two crucial upcoming contests of New
York and Pennsylvania.
In New York, you have Donald Trump there leading by double digits, actually doubling his closest opponents in the state. So, certainly, Donald Trump
poised for victory there. It's crucial that he's going above that 50 percent threshold, that's the threshold needed to actually get all of the
delegates statewide in New York, and you also need to get above 50 percent in each congressional district for Donald Trump, if he wanted to clean up
New York's 95 delegates, which is a pretty significant haul.
And Hillary Clinton also leading in New York. She is up by double digits as well over Senator Bernie Sanders.
Of course, that's her home -- her adopted home state. She served as a New York senator for eight years.
But you know, certainly Senator Sanders pretty close there, but it is not totally uncommon for
progressive candidate in New York to come close to getting 40 percent of the vote. She is still expected to win the state, but certainly, Senator
Sanders is making a really big push in New York, because if he can come close or narrow that gap between him and Secretary Clinton, he can
argue that he still has this huge movement at his back and that he should be allowed to continue to go forward and truly continue to compete for the
ANDERSON: Many of our viewers who aren't as familiar with U.S. politics as clearly you might be, or you are, might be somewhat confused by an
electoral process that appears to be so democratic until you get to a point at which we have what's known as a potential contested convention, where
all bets are off and all those votes, all those decisions that the average American has made about who they would like to run for which party goes out
the window, and the parties make the decision for them.
Can you just explain how these things work, sir?
DIAMOND: Well, first of all, I think Americans are just as confused as everybody around the world about how this process works. I mean, this is
such a rare occurrence in American politics. You know, the last time there was a Republican contested convention was in 1976, and it's interesting
enough that Donald Trump has now brought on one of the key Republican operatives who actually was involved in that convention now.
So, he is certainly shifting his strategy to a delegate-focused one.
But as far as how it works, you know, essentially, normally, the leading Republican candidate would be at the point right now where they would be
close to clinching the majority of these delegates because they would have won consistently.
Well, we had at work this year initially a crop of a lot of candidates. We had, you know, 17 or 18 Republican presidential candidates. And now what
you have is a little bit of inconsistency, because Donald Trump is such an unconventional candidate that the establishment of the Republican Party and
the party elites, you know, are fighting against this, and they're saying we need to keep Donald Trump
from becoming the nominee because he doesn't represent the party's policies and values.
So, certainly, it's an unusual circumstance. But of course, people are still voting. You've had several states now vote against Donald Trump, and
that's the problem, is that you don't have this kind of clear path where somebody, one candidate is consistently winning a lot of states and
cruising on a path towards the nomination, which is typically what you'd see at this later stage in the primary process.
ANDERSON: Jeremy, thank you. And if all this talk of delegate math and contested conventions has your head spinning somewhat, well, don't worry,
we get it. We're breaking it all down over at CNNpolitics.com. Check out the article "The long and winding road to the Republican nomination." It's
excellent. It certainly sorted my understanding of this all out a little more than my slightly confused sense of things before I used that article.
Do be sure to let me know what you think now.
Now, Saudi Arabia's King Salman has been on a spending spree of sorts. We're going to tell you what kind of deals he signed in Egypt, up next.
[11:34:46] ANDERSON: Well, it's said that Moses parted the Red Sea. Well, now the king of Saudi Arabia says he's going to go one better, building a
bridge over it, connecting his country with Egypt.
That huge project, though, just one small part of a long list of recent political and diplomatic
deals, all as King Salman makes a rare visit to Cairo, meeting Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi there.
Well, he's now on his fourth and final day of the trip as Riyadh looks to edge out Iran for regional power.
There's no one better to help us make sense of all of this than CNN Money's John Defterios. Regular viewers will be pleased to see him back from
London. And he is with me now.
John, this is a trip filled with symbolism -- a bridge to connect both countries, a long list of major projects. What's behind all of this?
JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very interesting. For those who had doubts whether King Salman wanted to lead the region in terms
of power right now, and whether he supports President el-Sisi, can have those doubts removed clearly with this historic visit.
And in fact, Becky, in the last couple hours, he gave a speech to parliament -- it was a short speech, but he stressed unity right now and a
joint alliance, making referencing to the Sunni alliance and counter balancing the power with Iran opening up to the United States. And a lot
of economic incentive at the same time.
A very long list, as you were suggesting. He is putting emphasis on the Sinai because of the terrorist threats there and a special economic zone of
some $3 billion, a $16 billion fund that's going to be led by the Saudi Sovereign Investment Fund going forward, $20 billion over the next four
years for energy support to lower the import bill for Egypt at this stage, and also settling a dispute that goes back to the 1950s in the Gulf of
Tehran with two islands demarcating the territory there favor of Saudi Arabia.
Now, the president of Egypt took a lot of heat domestically, and social media was on fire by saying he sold out to Saudi Arabia. But he thought it
was redefining the nation state, the collective alliance with Saudi Arabia with that gesture. Let's take a listen to him.
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ABDEL FATTAH EL-SIDI, EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): The visit by King
Salman has made me optimistic in that we can both reconsider the definition of the concept of a
collective national state, which will face off against terrorism and extremism, which threatens stability and the future of mankind as we know
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DEFTERIOS: Big, bold statements there, Becky, by President el-Sisi -- the collective nation state, making again a reference to the Sunni alliance
with Saudi Arabia.
It's also worth noting, though, while he did get the political and economic cover from King Salman today and the deputy crown prince sitting to the
right of his father in a bilateral meeting there, there's been pressure on President el-Sisi for under delivering. There's been some frustration here
in the Gulf states, better than $20 billion given to him over the last two years, but has he delivered on the project for low-income housing, health
care and education? The answer is probably not.
And also you know that case with the Italian student who went missing at the end of January. Italian officials are asking for more information.
They find signs of torture and they don't think he's been very forthcoming with the information internationally.
ANDERSON: You allude to the investment by not least the UAE in Egypt over the last couple of years, and that was when things weren't as fiscally
tight as they are now with this steep fall in oil prices.
Do you, therefore, find this level of support by King Salman slightly supporting -- slightly
surprising, given the change in financial circumstances in this region as a whole?
DEFTERIOS: Yeah, I think it's a great point that you bring up here. Oil prices are a third of what they were going back three years ago, $40, not
$115 or $120. So, there's a lot of pressure on Saudi Arabia domestically.
But he thought that the timing was very important for President el-Sisi because of that back-tracking on some of the economic reforms. Don't
forget, in March of last year, they were talking about $35 billion of foreign direct investment, very little of that has actually
been delivered. He would deliver jobs for the Egyptian people.
So, King Salman thought it was a very important window of time. But if you look at the foreign
reserves for Saudi Arabia right now, they've dwindled all the way down to $580 billion. You would suggest that was cash on hand, but it started at
$740 billion before the oil crisis. So, we have a cash burn, which is very high right now.
I spoke to some sources in Saudi Arabia today that are suggesting that Saudi Arabia will struggle, Becky, to grow 1 percent in 2016. This is an
economy that's growing 5 percent, 6 percent during the oil boom. Right now contractors being frustrated by the fact they appear lacking in payments
because of the cash drop.
Now, the deputy crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, as you know, has very grand plans, including creating a sovereign fund of some $2 trillion,
privatizing at least 5 percent of Saudi Ramco going forward. He wants a run out of the starting gates. He wants to push the reforms. But you see
the cash reserve's dropping. They can't spend that much domestically and it raises the question, why are you going overseas or going into Africa,
building the bridge, all these major spending projects to reaffirm that alliance right now when there's frustration here in the Gulf
states that perhaps President el-Sisi he hasn't lived up to expectations on delivering.
[11:39:57] ANDERSON: Fascinating. Well, the shifting of geopolitical tectonic plates, of course, always interesting to watch and analyze in this
Good stuff, John. Thank you very much indeed. A story that we will revisit here on this show.
Well, more more than more than 70 years since the death of Adolf Hitler, there is still fear over the spread of his ideology. In Austria, the
government is planning to seize the house where the Nazi leader was born. Officials say it's the only way to keep it from becoming a Neo-Nazi shrine.
Well, the government has been in a bitter legal dispute with the current owner for several years.
And another house, this time across the border in Germany, also prompting worry over its use. This one once belonged to Adolf Hitler's propaganda
Atika Shubert has the story for you from Berlin.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: the villa by Lake Bogensee stands empty, unadorned except for a sculpture now overgrown with weeds,
prime real estate, but it's gone unsold for decades since its last owner, Joseph
Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda chief.
CHRISTIAN BREITKREUZ, REAL ESTATE MANAGER: It's a historic artifact, yeah? And it's a nice building, too, but it just has, like a dark spot. it has a
dark spot of history.
SHUBERT: Christian Breitkreuz manages the property for the Berlin city government. He gave us a tour of the now derelict building.
The panoramic windows still retract to the ceiling with a push of a button. The original wood floor of the library now buckles with age.
In this Goebbels family photo, the villa seems a quiet retreat, but it was also where Goebbels entertained the starlets of the Nazi Ufa (ph) movie
Now, this is prime lakefront property. And it's gone unsold for years. Now the Berlin city government has said it is taking it off the market, not
because it can't find any buyers, but because it doesn't want it to fall into the wrong hands.
With the rise of right-wing extremism in Germany, the Berlin city government doesn't want to
take any chances of drawing Neo-Nazis as potential buyers, but as a historically protected building, it also can't be torn down.
BREITKREUZ: Well, we decided to take it off the market because of difficult history. If some Nazis would buy it at the end, you know, people
would say, well, it used to belong to Berlin, and now they could have protected it from the Nazis.
SHUBERT: Today, it is used for the occasional historical film set, but little else. After the war under Communist East Germany it was once a
student dorm for Communist Party youth with a cafeteria, a hair salon, even a kindergarten.
Now, there is no water or electricity, just a shell of a building that would take millions to restore, a property with a dark spot of history that
the Berlin City government hopes will crumble into obscurity.
Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.
ANDERSON: You're watching Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson, live from Abu Dhabi.
Coming up, gusts of wind are upsetting expectations at The Masters tournament. We're going to get you to Augusta, where this player could be
the oldest ever to win.
[11:45:26] ANDERSON; Well, the greatest players in golf are now teeing off. Let's take a look at what can happen on the final day then of The
Masters tournament for you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sunday's really the most fun here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE; There's less oxygen on the back nine Sunday at Augusta than there is the rest of the week.
SPIETH: You're almost starting almost another tournament, and you can feel the difference in momentum.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's just an amazing feeling to be part of this atmosphere.
TREVOR IMMELMAN, 2008 MASTERS CHAMPION: Down in the bottom of the valley there, so many people congregating. The noise is, you know, the whole
atmosphere's pretty electric.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So much can happen is the brilliance of this tournament.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It definitely gets harder to breathe. You know, you've got to make sure you're taking deep breaths and slow yourself down and get
your nerves. But you really got to work on keeping your emotions in check.
NICK FAKLO, 3-TIME MASTERS CHAMPION: The drama and how they can create the drama. They can obviously use different hole locations to amp things up,
make things playable or very difficult.
DUSTIN JOHNSON, GOLFTER: They've set it up to where if you hit really good golf shots, you can make some scores. And you know, I think that's how
they like it on Sunday on the back nine.
RORY MCILROY, FOUR-TIME MAJOR CHAMPION: As you've seen before, a lot can change on that last day and people can come from behind, or similarly, you
know, someone that does run away with it over the first three days, you know, it's sometimes tough to hang on to a lead.
ANDERSON: Well, it's a big day then with the final round of The Masters tournament under way. American Jordan Spieth battling winds on Saturday to
stay in the lead.
If he keeps it, Spieth would be only the fourth player to win a Masters twice in a row, but a full pack right behind him, including a 58-year-old
former champ, Bernhard Langer, who could become the oldest player to ever win a green jacket.
We go now to CNN's Don Riddell. He's at the national golf club in Augusta.
Tee is up, then, Don. What is the latest from there?
DON RIDDELL, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Well, the leaders don't go on for another three rounds, Becky. So we're anxiously anticipating this
afternoon's drama and entertainment.
The good news is that the weather seems to have calmed down. It really did blow a bit of a
gail over the last few days, and that really affected the scoring. And so, many of the world's top players were just trying to hang on, particularly
during the third round on Saturday.
It's much calmer today, so we are expecting better scoring conditions, and that could make for a very, very exciting afternoon, given that so many
players are within just a couple of shots of the lead.
And the story that we were absolutely not expecting this week was that a player ranked 1,080 in the world, the 58 in the world Bernhard Langer,
could be in contention, and he very much is.
This is what he has to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BERNHARD LANGER, GOLFER: I must be getting close to 200 rounds out here. So, I know the place well. You know, I'm just trying to have fun, and try
my last few years as a professional golfer and do the best I can.
SPIETH: I think it's incredible. I would say I'm surprised, except for doesn't he win most
every tournament on the champions tour? So...
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RIDDELL: That's a good point from Jordan Spieth. Bernhard Langer has been very successful on the senior tour, particularly in the senior majors.
He's won five of them. Having experience and familiarity with this course counts an awful lot. He was the champion here
in '85 and '93. And despite the fact that he's 58, Becky, he still believes that when he tees it up, he can win. And he's certainly playing
to win now this week.
ANDERSON: Good stuff. All right. Now listen, this 22-year-old American, Jordan Spieth, does continue to set records at The Masters.
Don, how is he feeling ahead of what is his final round?
RIDDELL: Well, I think right now he's probably feeling pretty good, but last night less so. And it really was a remarkable situation for Spieth to
find himself in. As you say, e's now set so many records. He's been leading this tournament for seven consecutive rounds, that breaks Arnold Palmer's
record. He is the first defending champion to hold a 54-hole lead here since Ben Hogan in 1954. And yet, he was pretty disappointed yesterday
because at one point he was four clear. He ended up dropping three shots in his last two holes, so he has an overnight lead of just one. And he
certainly would have expected to be in a better position than that yesterday afternoon.
But as he said afterwards, you know what, at start of the week, if you told me I'd have a
one-stroke lead going into the final round, I would have taken that. And he now knows that if he goes
out today and shoots the best round of the day, he's going to win the tournament for a second time.
He is in a good position. He just needs to put the last couple holes from yesterday out of his mind.
[11:50:07] ANDERSON: Remind our viewers, those who may not be as familiar with golf as you are, why this course is so exciting.
RIDDELL: Well, there are so many reasons why this is so exciting. First of all, it's absolutely stunning. It's the most amazing canvas to paint
any kind of drama on to. The course just looks absolutely beautiful.
But it's very, very well manicured. The greens are very, very tricky. The pin placements on Sunday are extremely difficult. And it really tests the
best players in the world to the absolute maximum.
Just the tiniest mistake here can result in disastrous consequences. That is one of the reasons why the experienced players tend to do better here,
because they know their way around. They know where you can go wrong and how to sort of limit the damage.
But it just has just thrown up so much entertainment over the last few years. You ran the piece earlier about how the course kind of changes on
the back nine. It's really more the atmosphere, it's how people feel when they get to the 10th tee, because they know that is when it's on and it
ANDERSON: Ayman Corner, of course, the holes 11, 12 and 13, scary stuff.
All right, thank you.
That's Don for you and a roundup of The Masters ahead of the leaders going out for what is their last round this afternoon.
Live from Abu Dhabi, this is Connect the World. Coming up, we are going to get you to China as it pauses to remember the story of how it was formed.
Plus, steam, sex, steam rooms and personal assistants. Not what you usually think of
for life in a maximum security prison, but that may be different when you are the powerful drug lord El Chapo. That story coming up.
ANDERSON: It is 53 minutes past 7:00 in the UAE and a balmy evening here. Welcome back. This is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson.
It's been three months since the Mexican drug lord Joaquin Guzman, known as El Chapo, was
recaptured. One attorney waiting to question Guzman spoke with CNN's Rafael Romo. He says that while in prison previously, El Chapo enjoyed all
the comforts of home.
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Barrel after barrel of drugmaking chemicals, nearly 52 tons all together. Plastic containers full of toxic
liquids totaling more than 19,000 gallons. It was all seized by Mexican authorities last week in the mountains of northern Mexico, turf of the
Sinaloa drug cartel.
Its leader, Joaquin Guzman, better known as El Chapo, or "shorty" in English, is behind bars, but it seems his cartel hasn't stopped making
It's no surprise to this attorney. Jose Antonio Ortega is one of a handful of prosecutors who have ever interrogated the drug lord.
"El Chapo means hatred. He means death," Ortega says. "He's somebody who poisons young
people not only in Mexico but also in the United States."
Ortega interrogated El Chapo as a suspect in the year 2000 as part of an investigation into the murder of a Mexican cardinal. His first shock --
the suspect arrived almost 13 hours late.
The explanation from El Chapo himself made him furious.
"He said, look, today I had my conjugal visit. Afterwards, I went to the steam room, and then I went to take a nap so that I could greet you as you
He didn't behave as a prisoner, Ortega says, but as the man in charge. Custodians acted as his personal assistants.
"El Chapo was the prison owner at that point. It was as if he were someone inviting us to his house," Ortega said.
The attorney gave us a copy of the deposition he took that day, March 16, 2000. This is El Chapo's signature right above that of Ortega's.
El Chapo would escape twice in the next 15 years, including his breakout last July using a
mile-long tunnel fitted with a motorcycle on tracks.
Guzman remains behind bars. Mexican officials have indicated multiple times that they have
every intention to extradite the drug lord to the United States, but the process may take anywhere from one to five years, and some fear El Chapo
may escape again.
El Chapo faces multiple drug trafficking and murder charges in Mexico and in at least seven
U.S. jurisdictions, so Ortega now must wait his turn to finish the interrogation he began 15 years ago.
Rafael Romo, CNN, Mexico City.
ANDERSON: Well, not only does El Chapo's future seem murky, but his past has been a source of mystery as well, hasn't it? Earlier this year, CNN
visited El Chapo's birthplace. It's a town where people look the other way in silence. It seems it means survival. You can get that full story on El
Chapo's origins by using our Facebook page, Facebook.com/cnnconnect. Get in touch with me there or
via Twitter. Tweet me @Beckycnn.
Well, many of us associate the color red with China, where it symbolizes good luck. But in tonight's Partin Shots, the country taking on a yellow
hue for the celebration of the yellow emperor. The storied founder of Chinese civilization ruled for more than 4,000 years -- sorry, more than
4,000 years ago. Apologies.
These pictures are from Xinzheng city, the emperor's hometown. Almost 10,000 people gathered to celebrate.
Every year, revelers in both Mainland China and Taiwan celebrate their heritage, marking the day the yellow emperor was born.
I'm Becky Anderson. That was Connect the World. From the team here, it was a very good
evening. Thank you for watching.
I'll be back, though, with your headlines after this. So don't go away.